Sounds like a nice replacement for Brandon, using the same rule
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/article_65a56a18-a4e5-54d4-a8f0-9ec7ba3efc24.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/article_65a56a18-a4e5-54d4-a8f0-9ec7ba3efc24.html)
Hard to believe that Ole Miss doesn't have an MBA program with emphasis on Finance?
Congrats to Homer and the staff for getting him to VU!
There are a couple YouTube videos with highlights from high school, but this site won't let me post links for some reason...
Buggs, Boggs and Bogan............Mr. Ickow will not have it too easy next season.
Touche, Homer!
Take advantage of the same rule that took away a good player. Bogan played 31 games as a freshman.
http://www.kboi2.com/sports/college/121667144.html (http://www.kboi2.com/sports/college/121667144.html)
Bogan said Valpo coach Homer Drew has talked with him about an opportunity to be a team leader for the Crusaders.
In the classroom, Bogan will be working towards his masters degree in business administration with an emphasis on finance.
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/bogan_will00.html (http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/bogan_will00.html)
Here's that video of Bogan in high school in Idaho.
Will Bogan 07-08 Hilites Mix: Shooting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5DvgNBVpvk#)
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/acad-support/spec-rel/042811aaa.html (http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/acad-support/spec-rel/042811aaa.html)
Nine Ole Miss student-athletes were among the 395 total named to the 2011 SEC Winter Academic Honor Roll, announced Thursday by SEC Commissioner Mike Slive. Men's basketball player Will Bogan and rifle junior Keely Stankey are three-time honorees. Bogan will graduate in three years this May with a degree in Managerial Finance, while Stankey finished seventh in the nation in air rifle in 2010.
With all of these guards, someone is going to be left out...it will be interesting to see who....also, I haven't met him yet, but I was told yesterday that Dino is closer to 6'4" than the 6'7" he's listed at. Anyone met him yet? I hope he's bigger than I was told...
Quote from: covufan on May 12, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Hard to believe that Ole Miss doesn't have an MBA program with emphasis on Finance?
Congrats to Homer and the staff for getting him to VU!
Ole Miss does show a graduate program in Finance. Maybe there is another rule that Will Bogan is taking advantage of.
http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/graduate_school/Catalogs/2010catalog.pdf (http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/graduate_school/Catalogs/2010catalog.pdf)
University of Mississippi Graduate Programs
Doctor of Philosophy
Accountancy
Biological Science
Business Administration
FinanceManagement
Management and Information Systems
Marketing
Production Operations Management
Chemistry
Counselor Education
Economics
Education
Educational Leadership K-12
Secondary Education
English
Health and Kinesiology
Exercise Science
Health Behavior and Promotion
Higher Education
History
Mathematics
Music
Music Education
Engineering Science
Aeroacoustics
Chemical Engineering
Civil Engineering
Computational Hydroscience
Computer Science
Electrical Engineering
Electromagnetics
Geological Engineering
Geology
Hydrology
Materials Science
Mechanical Engineering
Telecommunications
Pharmaceutical Science
Environmental Toxicology
Medicinal Chemistry
Pharmaceutics
Pharmacognosy
Pharmacology
Pharmacy Administration
Physics
Political Science
Psychology
Clinical
Experimental
Seems like a solid pick up...wish it was a big though!
We seem to have an overload of guards now (buggs, harris, kurth, boggs, bogan, kenney, jakolis)
How do you guys see the minutes distributing? Does this mean broekhoff will strictly be at the 4 again all year, same with edwards?
Ole Miss may have a MBA Masters program in straight Finance, but they might not have an MBA with an emphasis in Finance. Is the difference small? Yes. Is it big enough to matter? Sure. That's why this rule is lacking intelligence.
Regardless, Bogan has announced his graduate program while I don't think Brandon Wood ever announced one when he transferred.
Quote from: crusaderguy08 on May 12, 2011, 03:02:22 PM
There are a couple YouTube videos with highlights from high school, but this site won't let me post links for some reason...
New Members (less than 5 posts) cannot post links. It is to prevent spam.
Quote from: bbtds on May 12, 2011, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: covufan on May 12, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Hard to believe that Ole Miss doesn't have an MBA program with emphasis on Finance?
Congrats to Homer and the staff for getting him to VU!
Ole Miss does show a graduate program in Finance. Maybe there is another rule that Will Bogan is taking advantage of.
http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/graduate_school/Catalogs/2010catalog.pdf (http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/graduate_school/Catalogs/2010catalog.pdf)
University of Mississippi Graduate Programs
Doctor of Philosophy
Accountancy
Biological Science
Business Administration
Finance
Management
Management and Information Systems
Marketing
Production Operations Management
Chemistry
Counselor Education
Economics
Education
Educational Leadership K-12
Secondary Education
English
Health and Kinesiology
Exercise Science
Health Behavior and Promotion
Higher Education
History
Mathematics
Music
Music Education
Engineering Science
Aeroacoustics
Chemical Engineering
Civil Engineering
Computational Hydroscience
Computer Science
Electrical Engineering
Electromagnetics
Geological Engineering
Geology
Hydrology
Materials Science
Mechanical Engineering
Telecommunications
Pharmaceutical Science
Environmental Toxicology
Medicinal Chemistry
Pharmaceutics
Pharmacognosy
Pharmacology
Pharmacy Administration
Physics
Political Science
Psychology
Clinical
Experimental
I thought we established about 3 posts into the Brandon Wood thread that the rule that permits these kinds of transfers has nothing to do with academics. I'm sure there is more than enough gray within this facade to make just about any combination of degrees work. All I care at this point is we picked up a guy that could make us better next year.
Welcome to the Valpo family, Will!
He is a good shooter...didnt miss a shot that entire UTube video. :o
I will see what I can get from Dino on his height. I would imagine he might be redshirted this season.
I have an interview lined up with Will so hopefully I'll have that posted on the ole blog by the end of the weekend.
It looked to me that the same guy who made the Brandon Wood highlite video made this one!! Looks like Homer et al have given up on the big and will now play five guards as we have guys 6'6" and 6'7" who call themselves guards!!
He is obviously a very good student. It will be very interesting how all these guys fit together. Who just lost playing time??
Quote from: rlh on May 12, 2011, 03:09:50 PM
With all of these guards, someone is going to be left out...it will be interesting to see who....also, I haven't met him yet, but I was told yesterday that Dino is closer to 6'4" than the 6'7" he's listed at. Anyone met him yet? I hope he's bigger than I was told...
This is direct from Dino on his height: "I'm 197.5 cm without shoes, in feet it is 6'48". If you add shoes, u'll get 6'6"."
I had to laugh when he listed his height in centimeters!
Quote from: sectionee on May 12, 2011, 08:25:39 PM
Quote from: rlh on May 12, 2011, 03:09:50 PM
With all of these guards, someone is going to be left out...it will be interesting to see who....also, I haven't met him yet, but I was told yesterday that Dino is closer to 6'4" than the 6'7" he's listed at. Anyone met him yet? I hope he's bigger than I was told...
This is direct from Dino on his height: "I'm 197.5 cm without shoes, in feet it is 6'48". If you add shoes, u'll get 6'6"."
I had to laugh when he listed his height in centimeters!
According to a converter I just used, 197.5 cm = 6'5.8". If you add shoes you get 6-7.
sounds like a real heal to me!!
Quote from: CrusaderFan1 on May 12, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
Seems like a solid pick up...wish it was a big though!
We seem to have an overload of guards now (buggs, harris, kurth, boggs, bogan, kenney, jakolis)
How do you guys see the minutes distributing? Does this mean broekhoff will strictly be at the 4 again all year, same with edwards?
I think somebody in that group will see the writing on the wall and possibly transfer. I am not going to get into that here, but if I had 7 people playing your position, it sure would open my eyes.
Quote from: milanmiracle on May 12, 2011, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: CrusaderFan1 on May 12, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
Seems like a solid pick up...wish it was a big though!
We seem to have an overload of guards now (buggs, harris, kurth, boggs, bogan, kenney, jakolis)
How do you guys see the minutes distributing? Does this mean broekhoff will strictly be at the 4 again all year, same with edwards?
I think somebody in that group will see the writing on the wall and possibly transfer. I am not going to get into that here, but if I had 7 people playing your position, it sure would open my eyes.
i think you may be right, even though we would hate to have to have it happen that way. i'm thinking the proven regulars like kenney, buggs, and harris i guess are safe. i don't want to be too negative though. i don't like kurth's situation. he missed a year and now when he gets to return he has loads of competition to get some PT.
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 12, 2011, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: milanmiracle on May 12, 2011, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: CrusaderFan1 on May 12, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
Seems like a solid pick up...wish it was a big though!
We seem to have an overload of guards now (buggs, harris, kurth, boggs, bogan, kenney, jakolis)
How do you guys see the minutes distributing? Does this mean broekhoff will strictly be at the 4 again all year, same with edwards?
I think somebody in that group will see the writing on the wall and possibly transfer. I am not going to get into that here, but if I had 7 people playing your position, it sure would open my eyes.
i think you may be right, even though we would hate to have to have it happen that way. i'm thinking the proven regulars like kenney, buggs, and harris i guess are safe. i don't want to be too negative though. i don't like kurth's situation. he missed a year and now when he gets to return he has loads of competition to get some PT.
I see a real scramble for playing time with nobody safe. We have to remember that what turned last season into a pile of crap was when the opposition decided to sag off, pack up the inside and while still covering Ryan and Brandon challenged the rest of the team to beat them from outside.
As a team we shot 32% from 3, and if Ryan's numbers were pulled from the mix it would have dropped into the 20's. Specifically we had 2 glaring problems and they were Buggs and Kenney. Matt shot 16%, I repeat 16% from 3 for the season. Preseason I for one had expected for him to be one of our main outside threats. Buggs actually beat that % by shooting 5 of 27 for 18.5%. Buggs has to develop a shot or as I have stated before he will come off the bench and fall from 23 minutes per game to perhaps 18. Without a rock solid inside post player everybody on the floor needs to be able to put the ball in the hole. Matt has to regain his 3 point touch or face reduced playing time also.
I have no clue what to expect from Jakolis but I am now hopeing that Boggs , Bogan , Kurth and Harris all step up to fill the scoreing gap that Brandon and Howards departures have created. This battle for playing time should be intense, so for us to today try to pick the winers and losers would seem to be a bit silly, but it certainly should be interesting.
Quote from: Valpo89 on May 12, 2011, 02:13:02 PM
Sounds like a nice replacement for Brandon, using the same rule
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/article_65a56a18-a4e5-54d4-a8f0-9ec7ba3efc24.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/article_65a56a18-a4e5-54d4-a8f0-9ec7ba3efc24.html)
How funny! People on the board here were talking about how poetic it would be to pick up a player with the grad transfer rule, but I didn't expect it to happen this season. And, from Ole Miss!
I was just explaining Woods transfer to my wife, last night. And mentioned explicitly how it would probably only ever allow one year of eligibility. The only likely scenario seemed to be a player red-shirting (or otherwise eating a season of eligibility) and still graduating in four years.
But, Bogan certainly proves me wrong! Good on him for finishing his degree in three years.
I've not seen anyone say it explicitly, but he should have two seasons of eligibility at Valpo, right?
Yes he has 2 years left.
I interview Will last night. It will be posted on my blog either tonight or late next week (I'll let you know) as I already have something for the beginning/middle of next week.
Quote from: rlh on May 12, 2011, 03:09:50 PM
With all of these guards, someone is going to be left out...it will be interesting to see who....also, I haven't met him yet, but I was told yesterday that Dino is closer to 6'4" than the 6'7" he's listed at. Anyone met him yet? I hope he's bigger than I was told...
They are never as tall as advertised. It's always best to do the standard 2" deduction on all Valpo recruits.
I was not overly excited about Bogan at first read, but for once it appears we have a guy who can get shots up quick. Seems like most of our shooters need 4 or 5 seconds to set up their shot.
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Quote from: valpospartan on May 13, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
On a lighter note, isn't it ironic that VU has a player transfer to MSU and one transfer from MSU? :crazy:
actually Ole Miss is University of Mississippi.
UM not MSU
Here's an article about Will that will shed some light on why he was taken by a SEC school. I'm thinking the Evanville kid the coaches were watching was Zeller. Also good to see he was an Honor Society member--not a big surprise when you think that a D1 athlete could graduate from anywhere is 2 plus years!!
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=388&f=1467&t=2109189 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=388&f=1467&t=2109189)
Quote from: vu72 on May 14, 2011, 01:28:08 PM
Here's an article about Will that will shed some light on why he was taken by a SEC school. I'm thinking the Evanville kid the coaches were watching was Zeller. Also good to see he was an Honor Society member--not a big surprise when you think that a D1 athlete could graduate from anywhere is 2 plus years!!
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=388&f=1467&t=2109189 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=388&f=1467&t=2109189)
Good find...sounds like a driven kid who wants to succeed.
After watching the film and reading the article, I have really high hopes for this kid. Honestly, I won't be shocked if starts at the point sooner or later this season. Buggs can't shoot and that really kills us. It may also spell the end of Kurth?
I don't think some of you realize how much Homer Drew likes Buggs for his speed and defense. He is the starter at the point, and will remain so until someone really takes it away from him. We need more offense from him, but don't look for any of these guys to take his job anytime soon....
Oh I'm fully aware of Homer's love affair with Buggs' defense..I remember multiple times this year where Homer left him in games in the first half with two fouls and he picked up a silly third. He sure wasn't leaving him in there for his offense.
I just think that if an SEC-caliber recruit comes in who can shoot and run the offense and plays above average defense, it's only a matter of time before he gets the lion's share of the minutes.
Quote from: bbtds on May 14, 2011, 12:46:28 PM
Quote from: valpospartan on May 13, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
On a lighter note, isn't it ironic that VU has a player transfer to MSU and one transfer from MSU? :crazy:
actually Ole Miss is University of Mississippi.
UM not MSU
Duh! My bad.
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 14, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: vu72 on May 14, 2011, 01:28:08 PM
Here's an article about Will that will shed some light on why he was taken by a SEC school. I'm thinking the Evanville kid the coaches were watching was Zeller. Also good to see he was an Honor Society member--not a big surprise when you think that a D1 athlete could graduate from anywhere is 2 plus years!!
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=388&f=1467&t=2109189 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=388&f=1467&t=2109189)
Good find...sounds like a driven kid who wants to succeed.
After watching the film and reading the article, I have really high hopes for this kid. Honestly, I won't be shocked if starts at the point sooner or later this season. Buggs can't shoot and that really kills us. It may also spell the end of Kurth?
i agree. this could be it for kurth.
I think I'll agree with the above two posters...the writings on the wall for Kurth.
I think we'll have to wait and see what Tommy brings to the table. By the time next season rolls around, it will be 2 years since we've seen Tommy play. Two years to mature physically, to develop his all around game, his shot, his confidence, etc.
Quote from: wh on May 15, 2011, 08:17:26 PM
I think we'll have to wait and see what Tommy brings to the table. By the time next season rolls around, it will be 2 years since we've seen Tommy play. Two years to mature physically, to develop his all around game, his shot, his confidence, etc.
that is true...hopefully he will show the progress. i liked him as a freshman, and if he has developed further since then i like what he brings. but will he be able to be a perimeter threat?
I think with the five returning and Kurth and Bogan, Homer will have the luxury of being able to adapt to speed of game, foul trouble, defense, energy need, etc., during each game. They could all average 20-23 minutes a game, but some nights it might be 32, another night 12. With Wood and Little gone, there are 60 minutes per game for Bogan and Kurth, and some improving minutes for the others. I think Homer will be OK.
and
Quote from: covufan on May 16, 2011, 01:38:58 PM
I think with the five returning and Kurth and Bogan, Homer will have the luxury of being able to adapt to speed of game, foul trouble, defense, energy need, etc., during each game. They could all average 20-23 minutes a game, but some nights it might be 32, another night 12. With Wood and Little gone, there are 60 minutes per game for Bogan and Kurth, and some improving minutes for the others. I think Homer will be OK.
and Boggs??
Quote from: vu72 on May 16, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
and Quote from: covufan on May 16, 2011, 01:38:58 PM
I think with the five returning and Kurth and Bogan, Homer will have the luxury of being able to adapt to speed of game, foul trouble, defense, energy need, etc., during each game. They could all average 20-23 minutes a game, but some nights it might be 32, another night 12. With Wood and Little gone, there are 60 minutes per game for Bogan and Kurth, and some improving minutes for the others. I think Homer will be OK.
and Boggs??
What was I thinking - I don't recall.
I'll make another attempt. Last season we had six players fighting for time - Wood, Broekhoff, Little, Buggs, Harris and Kenney. For much of the time we ran 3 guards and a SF with Johnson, Rogers or Van Wijk. One could also argue that Rogers could play the swing position as well. These six players averaged about 151 minutes per game total. Broekhoff, Buggs, Harris and Kenney return, along with Kurth (medical red-shirt). We have Boggs, Bogan and Jakolis coming in next fall. Since Jakolis is a freshman and 6'7", I'm considering him to either play swing or red-shirt (since he considers himself a guard). That has 7-8 players fighting for 150-160 minutes - which I think is doable. Bryce may find that guard play is our forte, and play a little more up-tempo.
I guess that I was trying to say that there should be enough time and basketballs to go around next year, especially if we play a team game. Yes, I did leave Boggs off the original message, but was thinking of him playing the bulk of the schedule.
Looking back at some old threads, I thought this one was very interesting. Has Bogan exceeded expectations so far? It looks like several posters hit the nail on the head re: Kurth. Always fun to check out past analysis.
I would say bogan has met my expectations for the most part. I did think he would create more of his own shots off the dribble, but that hasn't been the case so far. He has been shooting the ball quite well lately though!
Bryce said he was a "dead eye shooter" and over the last 4 games he has hit 11 of 21 from the 3. Obviously he has gotten comfortable and could be the answer to having a scorer other than Ryan and Kevin. Let's hope Jay continues to improve and the defenses we face will have a tough time stopping us. The real question is: Can we find a way to stop anybody??