According to Paul Oren's blog on NWITimes.com/blogs/ we have a couple of big guys coming.....maybe?
http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/ (http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/)
An athletic big guy, somebody pinch me. Hopefully we can land one of those two.
It would be great to have either one or both of these guys. I noticed that Cerina's points and minutes picked up toward the end of this past season as a sophomore at TCU. He averaged 9 ppg over their last 7 games. He appears to be pretty thick and muscular, as well. Of course, he would have to sit out a year, unless he graduated in 2 years and we have a masters program that TCU doesn't offer. ;)
Funny thing about Cerina. He works his way into the starting lineup as a sophmore then decides to transfer? Wonder if the Frogs coach has hinted that his incoming Big East recruits will be getting playing time over his outgoing Mountain West upperclassmen.
"Very raw in the game of basketball"
Ugh! Here we go again. I'd pass on this one if he were 10 feet tall.
This is potentially great news...maybe he is supposedly "raw," but if the teams mentioned were really after him then he is worth the chance.
The kid from TCU would be a definite "yes" on our end if he wants to come.
http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/ (http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/)
BU seems to have passed on TCU transfer Nikola Cerina
I don't know if this truly means anything but it seems like a good sign.
Pictures of Nikola Cerina
http://www.zimbio.com/Nikola+Cerina (http://www.zimbio.com/Nikola+Cerina)
Quote from: cmack on May 14, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
"Very raw in the game of basketball"
Ugh! Here we go again. I'd pass on this one if he were 10 feet tall.
Just to clarify things: that quote was made about Vashil Fernandez who played at a prep school last year and not the possible TCU transfer, Nikola Cerina.
Quote from: bbtds on May 14, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/ (http://bubravesblogger.blogspot.com/)
BU seems to have passed on TCU transfer Nikola Cerina
I don't know if this truly means anything but it seems like a good sign.
Pictures of Nikola Cerina
http://www.zimbio.com/Nikola+Cerina (http://www.zimbio.com/Nikola+Cerina)
I wonder if they passed on him or he passed on them?
boy do i hope this is true
Cerina would be a good get. I went to a few of the games this year, and he did seem to improve as the year went on. The MWC is pretty competitive in basketball, but TCU is not (will get killed in Big East in basketball). Strong guy, bangs around in the post.
So, what does this mean as far as scholarships are involved? By my own count we are up to 13. Are we allowed 13 or more?
Here is what I am showing for depth chart:
Guards:
Harris, Buggs, Boggs, Kenny, Kurth, Boggs, Boggin
Wings:
Jakolis, Broekhauf, Edwards
Bigs:
Vucic, Witt, Van Wyck
So, it appears we are courting two more bigs...does that mean if both commit one of the above leaves? Or are we taking one or the other? If so, which is the preferred? Which do you take? Either way, it will be a one year wait, either for eligibility or development.
No interest in Humes? It would have meant a year.
Quote from: cmack on May 14, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
"Very raw in the game of basketball"
Ugh! Here we go again. I'd pass on this one if he were 10 feet tall.
Kikas was raw when he came in, but he was certainly worth the investment of time and patience.
Quote from: lowposter on May 15, 2011, 06:09:37 AM
So, what does this mean as far as scholarships are involved? By my own count we are up to 13. Are we allowed 13 or more?
Here is what I am showing for depth chart:
Guards:
Harris, Buggs, Boggs, Kenny, Kurth, Boggs, Boggin
Wings:
Jakolis, Broekhauf, Edwards
Bigs:
Vucic, Witt, Van Wyck
So, it appears we are courting two more bigs...does that mean if both commit one of the above leaves? Or are we taking one or the other? If so, which is the preferred? Which do you take? Either way, it will be a one year wait, either for eligibility or development.
No interest in Humes? It would have meant a year.
You've got Boggs down twice on your list.
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Quote from: rlh on May 15, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
I think you have 13 scholarship available. Last year we had 12 guys on scholarship--look at the roster. We lose Cory, Mike, Howard and Brandon. That takes us down to 8. We add Edwards, Jakolis, Boggs and Bogan. That still leaves us at 12. We have room for 1 and I think the first one to accept gets it. I suppose if both wanted to come perhaps a guy like Vucic would see the handwritng on the wall as he still has three years of eligibility. Cam is in hs final year so sure don't see him going anywhere. It also depends on their progress and expectations for next year playing time. I still think you might see Dino redshirt(which has no impact on scholarships), although I have had no conversations with anyone in that regard.
Quote from: rlh on May 15, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Funny, when I mentioned this concept some time back, certain people hammered me for it. How dare anyone speculate on players leaving regardless of reason. Until University comment is made, we should not even mention the idea of it!!!!!!
Quote from: cmack on May 15, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
Quote from: rlh on May 15, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Funny, when I mentioned this concept some time back, certain people hammered me for it. How dare anyone speculate on players leaving regardless of reason. Until University comment is made, we should not even mention the idea of it!!!!!!
Rlh pointed out that if we sign a 14th player, someone has to vacate their spot. Kind of hard to argue with that. If you were criticized for the same thing, that does seem pretty harsh. Maybe you could provide your quote?
Quote from: cmack on May 15, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
Quote from: rlh on May 15, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Funny, when I mentioned this concept some time back, certain people hammered me for it. How dare anyone speculate on players leaving regardless of reason. Until University comment is made, we should not even mention the idea of it!!!!!!
As I remember you mentioned something about the coaches forcing someone to leave...that I am totally against....players leaving of their own accord is another matter....I would hate to think we are like some other schools and would pull a players scholarship so we could get someone else and I don't think we would.
wow, it's funny how you can find supposed "confirmed" things about commits. but then you try and find out the official way from the institutions and contacting the athletes, and nothing. i hope this is for real! it has been way too long since we had good bigs.
Quote from: vu72 on May 15, 2011, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: rlh on May 15, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
I think you have 13 scholarship available. Last year we had 12 guys on scholarship--look at the roster. We lose Cory, Mike, Howard and Brandon. That takes us down to 8. We add Edwards, Jakolis, Boggs and Bogan. That still leaves us at 12. We have room for 1 and I think the first one to accept gets it. I suppose if both wanted to come perhaps a guy like Vucic would see the handwritng on the wall as he still has three years of eligibility. Cam is in hs final year so sure don't see him going anywhere. It also depends on their progress and expectations for next year playing time. I still think you might see Dino redshirt(which has no impact on scholarships), although I have had no conversations with anyone in that regard.
I'm pretty sure that redshirted players still count against your allotted scholarships for the year.
As Yogi would say it's deja-vu all over again. There wasn't a scholarship for Van Wijk last year when word leaked that he was coming It wasn't until June 24 & 25 that the announcement that Halvorsen and Milosevic were leaving was made.
Scholarships are on a year to year basis...correct me if that is incorrect. The cold hard realities of NCAA basketball is that there is a quid pro quo. Make progress or move on.
This is very similar to a job. Make sales or starve. Perform or move on. Pass tenure or find a new teaching job.
On the other hand, players leave when a better opportunity arises. Loyalty is earned. A $40,000 plus grant in aid is a pretty good size of change. If I were a coach, a little control would be wise.
Just my thoughts. Perhaps I am a little more realistic with the events of this spring.
Now, which big man project do we want?
lowposter
The last day for signing is May 18th. So by mid-night on Wednesday we will know whether or not we will add a big to the team.
Quote from: vu72 on May 16, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
The last day for signing is May 18th. So by mid-night on Wednesday we will know whether or not we will add a big to the team.
Not necessarily true. The transfer wouldn't be signing a NLI and the other kid can choose to not sign a NLI and take the remainder of the spring/summer to pick a school. If you recall, Van Wijk was a guy who first appeared on the scene well after the late signing period had ended.
Quote from: vu72 on May 15, 2011, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: rlh on May 15, 2011, 09:17:31 AM
I haven't heard of anyone leaving, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone contemplating a move. We have all our scholarships taken I believe, so the only way to get either or both of these guys would be for a spot to open up. I think I'm right about that...I guess we'll just have to wait and see
I think you have 13 scholarship available. Last year we had 12 guys on scholarship--look at the roster. We lose Cory, Mike, Howard and Brandon. That takes us down to 8. We add Edwards, Jakolis, Boggs and Bogan. That still leaves us at 12. We have room for 1 and I think the first one to accept gets it. I suppose if both wanted to come perhaps a guy like Vucic would see the handwritng on the wall as he still has three years of eligibility. Cam is in hs final year so sure don't see him going anywhere. It also depends on their progress and expectations for next year playing time. I still think you might see Dino redshirt(which has no impact on scholarships), although I have had no conversations with anyone in that regard.
I was coming to the same conclusion - we should have one scholly left. Hopefully a big who can contribute at least 8 minutes a game next year!
Someone had mentioned earlier that one scholarship had been used for summer school for the players. Is that correct? How many players have been on the scholarship lately? If VU does use one for summer school, is that normal for D1 schools?
lowposter
Quote from: covufan on May 16, 2011, 01:14:24 PM
I was coming to the same conclusion - we should have one scholly left.
I'm not singling you out, I've just never raised this before.
When did it become okay to just make up abbreviations on the fly? 5 years ago? 10? I can recall being in an online fan group for a TV show and people talking about "did you see the latest ep (or eppy)?" And that was long before Joss Whedon brought forth Buffy the Vampire Slayer, in which every ep introduced a new made-up abbreviation.
It's obviously not a big deal (but then this is the off season), it just bugs me for some reason. ???
Quote from: StlVUFan on May 18, 2011, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: covufan on May 16, 2011, 01:14:24 PM
I was coming to the same conclusion - we should have one scholly left.
I'm not singling you out, I've just never raised this before.
When did it become okay to just make up abbreviations on the fly? 5 years ago? 10? I can recall being in an online fan group for a TV show and people talking about "did you see the latest ep (or eppy)?" And that was long before Joss Whedon brought forth Buffy the Vampire Slayer, in which every ep introduced a new made-up abbreviation.
It's obviously not a big deal (but then this is the off season), it just bugs me for some reason. ???
:thumbsup:
Quote from: StlVUFan on May 18, 2011, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: covufan on May 16, 2011, 01:14:24 PM
I was coming to the same conclusion - we should have one scholly left.
I'm not singling you out, I've just never raised this before.
When did it become okay to just make up abbreviations on the fly? 5 years ago? 10? I can recall being in an online fan group for a TV show and people talking about "did you see the latest ep (or eppy)?" And that was long before Joss Whedon brought forth Buffy the Vampire Slayer, in which every ep introduced a new made-up abbreviation.
It's obviously not a big deal (but then this is the off season), it just bugs me for some reason. ???
You got the bugs? I could tell by your resp. No prob. My SIL told me there will be many new abbrevs ITNF. :)
Quote from: bbtds on May 18, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
You got the bugs? I could tell by your resp. No prob. My SIL told me there will be many new abbrevs ITNF. :)
Cell-phone texting abbreviations I get. It's full-keyboard message board/online forum unlimited-character-length made-up-abbreviations that mystify me. 8)
What do you think of the Hawks uniforms with the "ATL" on the front in big letters?
The newest one I have seen is instead of using ME for Maine they use BS instead for Bay State. What good is that but I understand it's become very popular.
Quote from: bbtds on May 19, 2011, 12:46:34 PM
What do you think of the Hawks uniforms with the "ATL" on the front in big letters?
The newest one I have seen is instead of using ME for Maine they use BS instead for Bay State. What good is that but I understand it's become very popular.
I believe Phoenix uses PHX on some jerseys...awful
Quote from: bbtds on May 19, 2011, 12:46:34 PM
What do you think of the Hawks uniforms with the "ATL" on the front in big letters?
The newest one I have seen is instead of using ME for Maine they use BS instead for Bay State. What good is that but I understand it's become very popular.
ATL is a long established abbreviation for Atlanta.
Quote from: StlVUFan on May 18, 2011, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: covufan on May 16, 2011, 01:14:24 PM
I was coming to the same conclusion - we should have one scholly left.
I'm not singling you out, I've just never raised this before.
When did it become okay to just make up abbreviations on the fly? 5 years ago? 10? I can recall being in an online fan group for a TV show and people talking about "did you see the latest ep (or eppy)?" And that was long before Joss Whedon brought forth Buffy the Vampire Slayer, in which every ep introduced a new made-up abbreviation.
It's obviously not a big deal (but then this is the off season), it just bugs me for some reason. ???
:lol:
Thought I had seen it on this or the previous board - wasn't trying to make a new abbreviation.
@TEOTD we still have no big man.
(at the end of the day)
Apparently, the 6' 9" TCU transfer, Nikola Cerina, has chosen Northwestern:
http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2011/5/20/2182245/tcu-forward-nikola-cerina-to-transfer-to-northwestern (http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2011/5/20/2182245/tcu-forward-nikola-cerina-to-transfer-to-northwestern)
That leaves the other big man, 6' 11" Vashil Fernandez, who was reported to be leaning toward Valpo.
Can anyone confirm this quote from Jim Basnight's College Hoops Blog. Pac-12 Roundup and Washington Husky Huddle for May 11th 2011 (Part One) (http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=519&sid=479504)
QuoteVashil Fernandez of Jamaica and Princeton Day Academy will not be coming to UW, as he committed to Valparaiso on Wednesday, according to numerous reports. Fernandez never received a UW offer, though he did visit the UW campus.
Watched some video on this kid and while he is raw and ball watches a lot with limited anticipation he is athletic and seems to know what to do with the ball when he is close to the basket. Would be a good get if this rumor is true.
Quote from: FWalum on May 21, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
Can anyone confirm this quote from Jim Basnight's College Hoops Blog. Pac-12 Roundup and Washington Husky Huddle for May 11th 2011 (Part One) (http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=519&sid=479504) QuoteVashil Fernandez of Jamaica and Princeton Day Academy will not be coming to UW, as he committed to Valparaiso on Wednesday, according to numerous reports. Fernandez never received a UW offer, though he did visit the UW campus.
Watched some video on this kid and while he is raw and ball watches a lot with limited anticipation he is athletic and seems to know what to do with the ball when he is close to the basket. Would be a good get if this rumor is true.
if he has supposedly committed, then why is all that we know about it just a rumor? don't you think we would have read about it somewhere?
Quote from: tommydee46 on May 21, 2011, 03:46:35 PM
Some of you on this so called "forum"....worry too much about offending someone or your "political correctness"... You know who you are... Let people post whatever their view might be...as long as they are not vulgar!!
:twocents: Now is the time to make some changes player wise and coaching wise......Cameron Witt unproductive for 3 years.....he becomes my student manager. Not a hard worker by any
means, thus opening up a scholarship if that is possible...if not, time to play hardball, he's gotten 120,000$ worth of education.
Coaching change.....I am sure they want a change or two....but who with experience wants to be the lowest paid assistant in the conference....our assistants are the lowest paid , fact.
Even Coach Drew was not given his due...he is (was) the 7th lowest of 10 coaches, at least that is what I could surmise from my research. 22 years of service, making Valpo a household name in
the world of basketball , yet to be one of the lowest paid.....
Question: Do you think Coach Bryce has been given any "direction" for the hiring of coaches? Such as a minority? Or one with DI experience? Just a thought...and if that is the case, it will be only
because of the Drews that one would come...hard to live on 40 to 50 thou with a family. Say you?
Getting back to my original comment about posting....go view some other blogs of major and mid-major universtities and see what we are missing!!! Very entertaining .
:thumbsup:
Now, I've got to run for cover from the fallout that is sure to happen when some of the old guard get a hold of this post. :lol:
Thanks BENCHWARMER...just some thoughts, don't know how relative a few might be. It's like making a BMW on VW money....can't be done.
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 21, 2011, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: tommydee46 on May 21, 2011, 03:46:35 PM
Some of you on this so called "forum"....worry too much about offending someone or your "political correctness"... You know who you are... Let people post whatever their view might be...as long as they are not vulgar!!
:twocents: Now is the time to make some changes player wise and coaching wise......Cameron Witt unproductive for 3 years.....he becomes my student manager. Not a hard worker by any
means, thus opening up a scholarship if that is possible...if not, time to play hardball, he's gotten 120,000$ worth of education.
Coaching change.....I am sure they want a change or two....but who with experience wants to be the lowest paid assistant in the conference....our assistants are the lowest paid , fact.
Even Coach Drew was not given his due...he is (was) the 7th lowest of 10 coaches, at least that is what I could surmise from my research. 22 years of service, making Valpo a household name in
the world of basketball , yet to be one of the lowest paid.....
Question: Do you think Coach Bryce has been given any "direction" for the hiring of coaches? Such as a minority? Or one with DI experience? Just a thought...and if that is the case, it will be only
because of the Drews that one would come...hard to live on 40 to 50 thou with a family. Say you?
Getting back to my original comment about posting....go view some other blogs of major and mid-major universtities and see what we are missing!!! Very entertaining .
:thumbsup:
Now, I've got to run for cover from the fallout that is sure to happen when some of the old guard get a hold of this post. :lol:
Where did this come from and better yet... where did it go?
...and funny that dcvalpo gave this the thumbsup...since he isposting his conce about hurting people's feelings and giving them "unfair treatment" in posts.
Quote from: tommydee46 on May 21, 2011, 05:33:42 PM
Thanks BENCHWARMER...just some thoughts, don't know how relative a few might be. It's like making a BMW on VW money....can't be done.
I hear what you're saying, loud and clear. Name is dcvalpo, by the way!
What you will find around here---as I have found---is there is a whole lot of that "he said, she said" drama that goes on and you're best off to just roll with the punches and ignore the trollers and flamers. Just stick to dropping VU basketball truth on the board and you will quickly gain respect. I'm not the most popular poster around here, but certainly one of the most respected simply because I ask the questions no one else wants to ask. Keep doing what you do and the rest will all fall together. Happy posting and welcome to the asylum ;)
Quote from: valpo04 on May 21, 2011, 06:27:05 PM
...and funny that dcvalpo gave this the thumbsup...since he isposting his conce about hurting people's feelings and giving them "unfair treatment" in posts.
Hold on, now...I think there is a big difference between speaking the truth openly and just flat out trolling and flaming. If a poster just attacks another or tears down an idea without provocation, then I'm not cool with that. If, on the other hand, a guy just states an honest opinion---not about one of our fellow posters---what's the harm?
i try not to add to the drama, if possible. but there are times when i feel it necessary to express my opinion. one of my unpopular opinions currently is about buggs possibly taking on a bit of a lesser role. but that is getting off subject. does anybody know if the 6'11 big man is coming to valpo next year?
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 21, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
i try not to add to the drama, if possible. but there are times when i feel it necessary to express my opinion. one of my unpopular opinions currently is about buggs possibly taking on a bit of a lesser role. but that is getting off subject. does anybody know if the 6'11 big man is coming to valpo next year?
My source tells me "yes," but I will get back with everyone when I have more information. Looks like he will redshirt and then be ready to play in a year. My guy says he can jump out of the gym and will be a real handful for guards attacking the basket.
And, good point...drama stinks, but it is a necessary evil it seems.
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 21, 2011, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: FWalum on May 21, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
Can anyone confirm this quote from Jim Basnight's College Hoops Blog. Pac-12 Roundup and Washington Husky Huddle for May 11th 2011 (Part One) (http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=519&sid=479504) QuoteVashil Fernandez of Jamaica and Princeton Day Academy will not be coming to UW, as he committed to Valparaiso on Wednesday, according to numerous reports. Fernandez never received a UW offer, though he did visit the UW campus.
Watched some video on this kid and while he is raw and ball watches a lot with limited anticipation he is athletic and seems to know what to do with the ball when he is close to the basket. Would be a good get if this rumor is true.
if he has supposedly committed, then why is all that we know about it just a rumor? don't you think we would have read about it somewhere?
I believe some are going off his Facebook comment that said something like "it's Valparaiso." Until he actually sends in the paperwork and Valpo has crossed all the T's and dotted all the I's with the NCAA Valpo can not comment on this Fernandez yet.
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 21, 2011, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: FWalum on May 21, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
Can anyone confirm this quote from Jim Basnight's College Hoops Blog. Pac-12 Roundup and Washington Husky Huddle for May 11th 2011 (Part One) (http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=519&sid=479504) QuoteVashil Fernandez of Jamaica and Princeton Day Academy will not be coming to UW, as he committed to Valparaiso on Wednesday, according to numerous reports. Fernandez never received a UW offer, though he did visit the UW campus.
Watched some video on this kid and while he is raw and ball watches a lot with limited anticipation he is athletic and seems to know what to do with the ball when he is close to the basket. Would be a good get if this rumor is true.
if he has supposedly committed, then why is all that we know about it just a rumor? don't you think we would have read about it somewhere?
Of course I was reading it somewhere... duh, why do you think I linked that WU blog, I didn't just have my ear to the ground. The only reason I said it was a rumor was because everything I was
reading was from WU sources.
thanks for your condescending remarks. what i was trying to find out is if it is official or not yet. of course we read about it and that's how we even know he exists in the first place.
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 22, 2011, 02:43:49 PM
thanks for your condescending remarks. what i was trying to find out is if it is official or not yet. of course we read about it and that's how we even know he exists in the first place.
See my comments about drama above...you two are dangerously close to being sent to the woodshed, never to return. The mods here are fair, but do what needs to be done.
Now, you're both right...there was a source giving us some news, but we still have yet to hear anything official. My guy tells me that things are being ironed out and we should have some news sooner or later. It does appear, however, that Vashil is Valpo's. That's all I have heard at this point.
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 22, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 22, 2011, 02:43:49 PM
thanks for your condescending remarks. what i was trying to find out is if it is official or not yet. of course we read about it and that's how we even know he exists in the first place.
See my comments about drama above...you two are dangerously close to being sent to the woodshed, never to return. The mods here are fair, but do what needs to be done.
No... they aren't.
Sorry, I didn't mean to step on your toes
So..................does anyone have any more info about Vashil Fernandez? ???
Quote from: webbvufan on May 23, 2011, 12:47:24 PM
So..................does anyone have any more info about Vashil Fernandez? ???
Some info should be coming relatively soon...there have been some hangups
Quote from: webbvufan on May 23, 2011, 12:47:24 PM
So..................does anyone have any more info about Vashil Fernandez? ???
Thanks for getting this back on track. Unfortunately I have not seen anything additional other than the same info coming out of the University of Washington. Here is an article from back in March... more about the young man other than just basketball.
Ok, tell me the difference between Frenandez and Jared Smoot of Crown Point? We passed on Smoot, who is a near 4.0 student and a great athlete...granted he is offensively challenged, but has the size and a d 1 body.
From the video, Fernandez appears to have Jamaican ability to run from point A to point B quickly...gotta love those long strides, but perhaps very telling is what you do not see...and that is teammates looking him off when he has inside position and a couple of times he was wide open. Granted, he did garner a couple of offensive rebounds and followup field goals, but his defensive footwork is not good and he tends to stand straight up most of the time on the floor. Perhaps that is the best that is available at this time of the year.
lowposter
i'm dangerously close? i apologize for whatever drama has been created. i will try my best to get things back to normal by doing my part. as far as fernandez, i'm hoping we can get something out his of 6'11 frame and athleticism as was mentioned. maybe this project will be worth it this time? i sure hope so.
Lowposter, why do you say we "passed" on Smoot. He chose the Naval Academy. Lots of big schools looked at him.
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/indiana/article_7333a37d-31eb-50ea-b05d-0aa2341e6661.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/indiana/article_7333a37d-31eb-50ea-b05d-0aa2341e6661.html)
http://www.nwitimes.com/high-school/crown-point/article_18620fbe-1a67-50dd-a14c-8b2617cdce02.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/high-school/crown-point/article_18620fbe-1a67-50dd-a14c-8b2617cdce02.html)
Sounds like the kid chose the honorable option of going to a military academy, not that we "passed" on him. Was an offer made, did we have an opportunity to make an offer before he verballed? Would he have taken the offer? Why didn't Purdue or BYU get him?
Not every kid in the Region wants to stay in the Region for college even if we offered. And by the way Tim Duncan hadn't played much HS ball before WF signed him. But a player Washington (BCS) is looking at and we get seems like there must be some big upside here.
Also, here's a question, we heard a lot about Austin Richie and that he was offered. Saw that he is going to Western Michigan? Why did he "pass" on Valpo? Wouldn't he have been a Brandon Wood replacement option too?
Quote from: valpo84 on May 23, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Also, here's a question, we heard a lot about Austin Ritchie and that he was offered. Saw that he is going to Western Michigan? Why did he "pass" on Valpo? Wouldn't he have been a Brandon Wood replacement option too?
austin richie "passed" on us?
I don't know if Richie passed on us or us him, but he's not the answer. Is think sometimes we get so wrapped up in getting a "local" guy, we forget to really look at whether or not he can help...I don't think Richie can....as far as Smoot....I don't know what our interest in him was, but I broadcast several of his games over the past 4 years and he is very soft and would never survive the Horizon League.
thanks rlh. i trust your opinions as being highly accurate. it seems like the best local players don't take as much interest in valpo anyway. i guess playing at purdue or ohio state sounds way better to them, and i don't blame them.
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 23, 2011, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: valpo84 on May 23, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Also, here's a question, we heard a lot about Austin Ritchie and that he was offered. Saw that he is going to Western Michigan? Why did he "pass" on Valpo? Wouldn't he have been a Brandon Wood replacement option too?
austin richie "passed" on us?
Yes, this article explains the connection Homer Drew offers Richie (http://m.nwitimes.com/mobile//article_8d276e13-a41c-5c79-a13f-51c35161f142.html). I am not sure why the kid, considering the family history, would want to play for the broncos.
It sounds like the family history is to start your college basketball career at a directional Michigan school, and then make a transfer. Maybe he'll end up at VU in a year or two. :)
Ritchie is a good player and a very good-great shooter, but he would not have been a huge addition to the current make-up of this program. If we couldn't get skilled big men, we got guys who made sense. Two players coming from power conferences who can immediately compete for playing time, a freshman with some size, and a banger who makes us immediately tougher in the interior. Yes, I wanted a big man, but I'll take the four we got and I'm pretty pleased. Ritchie would not have made us better in the next two years, imo.
I haven't seen this here yet. Paul Oren reports: "Vashil Fernandez is still very much in play for Valparaiso. The 6-foot-11 Jamaican gave his verbal commitment to the Crusaders according to several Internet reports, but word close to the program is that the holdup right now is a matter of high school transcripts. As Valparaiso fans have seen in the past with Paul Guede, these matters can be drawn out and incredibly frustrating for all involved. The bottom line is that Fernandez wants to come here, it's just a matter of when."
http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/?p=5406 (http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/?p=5406)
It's a Jamaican high school, right? And then a year at a US prep school. Hopefully things can be sorted out without too much trouble.
Quote from: valpopal on May 24, 2011, 02:36:17 PM
I haven't seen this here yet. Paul Oren reports: "Vashil Fernandez is still very much in play for Valparaiso. The 6-foot-11 Jamaican gave his verbal commitment to the Crusaders according to several Internet reports, but word close to the program is that the holdup right now is a matter of high school transcripts. As Valparaiso fans have seen in the past with Paul Guede, these matters can be drawn out and incredibly frustrating for all involved. The bottom line is that Fernandez wants to come here, it's just a matter of when."
http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/?p=5406 (http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/?p=5406)
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 22, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
My guy tells me that things are being ironed out and we should have some news sooner or later.
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 24, 2011, 01:48:15 PM
Ritchie is a good player and a very good-great shooter, but he would not have been a huge addition to the current make-up of this program. If we couldn't get skilled big men, we got guys who made sense. Two players coming from power conferences who can immediately compete for playing time, a freshman with some size, and a banger who makes us immediately tougher in the interior. Yes, I wanted a big man, but I'll take the four we got and I'm pretty pleased. Ritchie would not have made us better in the next two years, imo.
The jury is out for a while but as you said dcvalpo, I really don't think he would have had the opportunity to contribute much with all the perimeter players that we have. I have seen Richie play a few times even back in 7th and 8th grade and he is almost a Seth Colclasure clone.
I would disagree with the comparison with Seth Colclasure comparison. Seth was an outstanding shooter, one of the best in VU history.
Richie can handle the ball better, is a very good passer, creates, handles the ball, and has one of the quickest releases I have seen. It will be interesting to see how this translates to the mid major college level. As we all know, the game gets much quicker at that level.
He had an incredible number of offers...something like 25 or so, mostly from mid majors, but still, that is amazing. Bright kid, much like Colclasure (Engineering major at VU if my memory is correct...how many of those does one see in D1?).
BTW, was there a player that was more inconspicuous than Seth Colclasure? He simply blended in and blended in very well. He was the type of player that was consistent and reliable. His shooting ability made teams respect him and his placement on the floor. Great free throw shooter who always played the final minutes of close games.
Not sure who I would compare Richie to ... must think about that for awhile.
As good of player as he is, not sure how much he would have helped at VU. I agree a big man is needed more.
loposter
Actually, it didnt take long to compare Richie to a current VU player - Jay Harris.
Quote from: lowposter on May 26, 2011, 06:22:21 AM
I would disagree with the comparison with Seth Colclasure comparison. Seth was an outstanding shooter, one of the best in VU history.
Richie can handle the ball better, is a very good passer, creates, handles the ball, and has one of the quickest releases I have seen. It will be interesting to see how this translates to the mid major college level. As we all know, the game gets much quicker at that level.
He had an incredible number of offers...something like 25 or so, mostly from mid majors, but still, that is amazing. Bright kid, much like Colclasure (Engineering major at VU if my memory is correct...how many of those does one see in D1?).
BTW, was there a player that was more inconspicuous than Seth Colclasure? He simply blended in and blended in very well. He was the type of player that was consistent and reliable. His shooting ability made teams respect him and his placement on the floor. Great free throw shooter who always played the final minutes of close games.
Not sure who I would compare Richie to ... must think about that for awhile.
As good of player as he is, not sure how much he would have helped at VU. I agree a big man is needed more.
loposter
I have to agree here...Seth Colclasure was in a unique class of his own and I really don't think the comparisons here are accurate.
We have really missed having a steady, rock solid guy like Seth! Nice post(er), lowposter ;)
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 24, 2011, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: valpopal on May 24, 2011, 02:36:17 PM
I haven't seen this here yet. Paul Oren reports: "Vashil Fernandez is still very much in play for Valparaiso. The 6-foot-11 Jamaican gave his verbal commitment to the Crusaders according to several Internet reports, but word close to the program is that the holdup right now is a matter of high school transcripts. As Valparaiso fans have seen in the past with Paul Guede, these matters can be drawn out and incredibly frustrating for all involved. The bottom line is that Fernandez wants to come here, it's just a matter of when."
http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/?p=5406 (http://nwitimes.com/app/blog/sports/?p=5406)
Quote from: dcvalpo on May 22, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
My guy tells me that things are being ironed out and we should have some news sooner or later.
Hopefully, we'll hear one way or the other soon...
Not sure if this has been posted, but this article goes into some depth on Vashil Fernndez. Academically, it sounds like he will be just fine and the quality of Valpo's business school may have been a factor in his picking us (if he really has). The lack of an athletic shot blocker is something any of the coaches will tell you is what gave us all the defensive problems. I don't see scoring from the five as a key issue so if he can fill the defensive void, we may be on to big things! ;D
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html)
any idea when when his committment might be made official?
Not sure if I have said this before, but his story seems very similar to Tim Duncan's. Not that he will be Duncan, but that he started his hoops career later and was a bit under the radar.
Quote from: valpo84 on June 08, 2011, 09:21:20 PM
Not sure if I have said this before, but his story seems very similar to Tim Duncan's. Not that he will be Duncan, but that he started his hoops career later and was a bit under the radar.
This is ridiculous. You could make this statement about hundreds of guys, all of which never have been/will be Tim Duncan. Besides, Duncan ended up in the ACC which doesn't exactly scream "under the radar."
I said their stories are similar, we will have to see about Fernandez' game. Duncan was not heavily recruited out of HS (he had a couple of offers from BCS and then lower mid-majors v Fernandez' couple of BCS offers and mid-majors), from places not well known for their basketball (St Croix v Jamaica), learned the game in HS (Duncan started in 9th grade after his Olympic swimming dreams were shattered by a hurrican destroying the only pool in St. Croix) and was a cerebral student and athlete.
Quote from: valpo84 on June 09, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
I said their stories are similar, we will have to see about Fernandez' game. Duncan was not heavily recruited out of HS (he had a couple of offers from BCS and then lower mid-majors v Fernandez' couple of BCS offers and mid-majors), from places not well known for their basketball (St Croix v Jamaica), learned the game in HS (Duncan started in 9th grade after his Olympic swimming dreams were shattered by a hurrican destroying the only pool in St. Croix) and was a cerebral student and athlete.
And I'm still saying that this could be said about a lot of recruits. (ie. Moussa Mbaye).
Not exactly a "big man," but here is a news story today that reports Manny Arop, a 6'6" Gonzaga transfer, after narrowing his choices to two schools, has selected ISU over Valpo:
http://tribstar.com/sports/x1478025573/Arop-chooses-ISU-mens-basketball (http://tribstar.com/sports/x1478025573/Arop-chooses-ISU-mens-basketball)
Valpo doesn't have Sports Management major?????
Quote"I think ISU has an endless list of things I like, but there's two main reasons why I chose it," said Arop in a phone interview on Tuesday.
"First, it's a great basketball opportunity. We have a great coach and I have great teammates. The second part is academics. ISU has my major [Sports Management] and I can transfer easily into their program," Arop explained.
Or is it: "ISU's entrance requirements (academics-wise) are more lenient than Valpo's"?
we do have sports management, i'm about 90% sure. gotta be the entrance requirements.
http://www.valpo.edu/physicaleducation/study/sm-curr.php (http://www.valpo.edu/physicaleducation/study/sm-curr.php)
A quick scan of this year's roster shows 6 players with sports mgmt. majors - Rogers, Witt, Skelton, Little, Buggs and Harris.
QuoteOr is it: "ISU's entrance requirements (academics-wise) are more lenient than Valpo's"?
I hate to hijack the thread about Valpo's academic standards but I really didn't want to start another thread. Basically I've heard that Saudi Arabia has recently decided that Valpo isn't rigorous enough and has decided to cut back the number of students they send. My girlfriend knows a guy who did his undergraduate at Valpo, applied and got accepted into a masters program. But when he told Saudi Arabia, they told him he couldn't go there again because of their concern about the academics.
Granted this is all hearsay but I think it's a potential concern. I love Valpo but when I hear people go on about how great the academics are I have to pause. There are some excellent programs, professors, and students. But I also witnessed a lot of mediocre academic performance as well. And this was just a few years ago.
Quote from: wh on June 17, 2011, 08:20:32 PM
A quick scan of this year's roster shows 6 players with sports mgmt. majors - Rogers, Witt, Skelton, Little, Buggs and Harris.
Hopefully these guys have the business sense to manage the training centers and AAU teams of the future. Most professional sports organizations are saturated with former athletes who had to take on internship after internship to build the resume for the future.
ya a guy from La Lumiere thats what i saw
Quote from: BulldogBully on June 21, 2011, 10:31:40 PM
ya a guy from La Lumiere thats what i saw
What the heck does this mean?? :crazy:
umm a guy that is like 7'1 is coming to valpo???
I believe that if Vashil Fernandez is coming to Valpo, he should be arriving about now for the beginning of the second summer session. Keep an eye out for a very tall figure walking across campus this week.
He is here and should be playing this upcoming season. Registered for summer class. Could give us a true big man in the middle. I understand he will need some work.
This is good news!
Quote from: uguy on June 29, 2011, 01:12:41 PM
He is here and should be playing this upcoming season. Registered for summer class. Could give us a true big man in the middle. I understand he will need some work.
I had heard he was going to arrive, most likely today, as my previous post hinted. Glad to hear that confirmed.
Anyone seen him play? This is good news.
One of the other new guys confirms he is on campus and has been playing some pickup games with the guys.
Quote from: uguy on June 29, 2011, 01:12:41 PM
He is here and should be playing this upcoming season. Registered for summer class. Could give us a true big man in the middle. I understand he will need some work.
Awesome news...we really need an athletic big man and Vashil fits the bill
One of the other new guys confirms Vashil is there and has been playing pickup games with the guys! Here is quick post on Vashil I made, http://sectionee.blogspot.com/2011/06/big-man-on-campus.html. (http://sectionee.blogspot.com/2011/06/big-man-on-campus.html.)
Quote from: sectionee on June 29, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
One of the other new guys confirms Vashil is there and has been playing pickup games with the guys!
Any reports on how he is playing?
Article about Vashil from Jamaican source (http://"http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html")
Not sure if this has been posted, but a nice look at where Vashil is coming from and what he might bring to our program
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html)
Fixed the URL for you
Quote from: StlVUFan on June 30, 2011, 02:34:18 PM
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110320/sports/sports9.html)
Fixed the URL for you
Thanks, sorry about that everyone
Word is Vashil will be on campus today (Saturday).
Will it be announced today? He has been on campus for several days now.
Anyone have any updates on Fernandez? Is he still on campus? Will there be an official announcement? Just curious.
He is still there, thats all I got.
I stopped by the ARC and saw Vashil shooting free throws. Just in my opinion, so take it for what it's worth, he looked extremely raw and uncoordinated. Some of the other players standing around said he has a lot of work to do but has great potential. I did see him stand under the basket and pin the ball against the rim (underside) while standing flat footed. He certainly is tall and looks athletic. There was also a Nigerian who was looking for a prep school in the United States because he is a senior in high school who was playing with the guys in the pick up game and looks extremely extremely athletic. Much more coorinated than Vashil. Fairly tall too. Maybee 6-7, 6-8.
Quote from: historyman on August 04, 2011, 12:03:31 PM
I stopped by the ARC and saw Vashil shooting free throws. Just in my opinion, so take it for what it's worth, he looked extremely raw and uncoordinated. Some of the other players standing around said he has a lot of work to do but has great potential. I did see him stand under the basket and pin the ball against the rim (underside) while standing flat footed. He certainly is tall and looks athletic. There was also a Nigerian who was looking for a prep school in the United States because he is a senior in high school who was playing with the guys in the pick up game and looks extremely extremely athletic. Much more coorinated than Vashil. Fairly tall too. Maybee 6-7, 6-8.
Was the Nigerian kid named Leke Solanke? Heard he may be going to Hammond Baptist or Lalumiere because whatever kind of a visa he has won't allow him to go to a place like Valpo High School. Heard he lives with a family in Valpo.
Could have been. I didn't ask his name. He would be a good recruit in so many ways.
Leke Solanke, who currently does live in Valpo:
Leke Highlights "18 yrs 6' 6 Shooting Guard" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5kpHObty0#)
I can't honestly say I recognize him but his style is the same as #3 in green. I would agree that could be the guy I saw playing at the ARC.
That kid looked like a program changer. Very impressive. As for Fernandez, my guess is that Bryce will redshirt him as we've added some size with Richie and Dino as well as perhaps having Vuc ready to contribute. Should be interesting!
Fernandez isn't coming to redshirt. He's not going to redshirt.
My opinion again. Fernandez will look worse than Vucic did last year if he does not redshirt.
With summer classes ending this week I suspect we will hear something about him soon, right?
Quote from: historyman on August 05, 2011, 05:53:15 AM
My opinion again. Fernandez will look worse than Vucic did last year if he does not redshirt.
Oh i agree with you fully. I'm just telling you, he wasn't brought here to redshirt. It's not happening.
I love raw talent. Translation = he will have a career game 3 years from now with a stat line of 8 points and 4 rebounds. I am not a fan of recruiting for height alone when they only end up taking up space at the end of the bench.
Oh come on now....Mousa and Omar were both raw talent that turned out great.... *rolls eyes*
Oumar had a decent career as a 6'7" PG at Richmond. Nothing tremendous stat-wise, but he started most of his career there when he transferred.
Moussa had his moments as a defender/rebounder. I will take guys that are tall and can contribute 15+ minutes/game any day (Antti, Moussa, etc).
Quote from: historyman on August 05, 2011, 05:53:15 AM
My opinion again. Fernandez will look worse than Vucic did last year if he does not redshirt.
I know Fernadnez isn't official, but if he's no better than Vucic, I wonder why Valpo apparently had no interest in Humes (if you believe the Lazerus article). I assume that with a shortage of scholarships, Valpo assumed they had all the bigs they needed.
I'm willing to wait and see with Fernandez since ESPN's rating of him is two stars and an 86, which is higher than Edwards or Jakolis and just about the same rating that Green Bay's very good big man Alec Brown had as a recruit.
Here is a list of uncommitted Indiana recruits that includes Brent Calhoun, a big man (6'8" 250 lbs.) from Warren Central for whom Valpo had shown interest in the past. He already has a few offers, including Appalachian State, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville, and Lamar. He is reportedly still developing as a player. How good he can be will not be proven until he performs in his senior year.
Still, I understand he would prefer to stay in Indiana and is visiting schools this month, believed to include IPFW, IUPUI, and Valpo. However, I wonder if Valpo's interest has lessened recently, especially since available roster space should be limited next year.
I believe Nick Osborne, who is on the list and was considering Valpo in the past, has just received an offer from Northwestern.
http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/07/31/updates-on-several-uncommitted-2012-players-and-a-couple-2013s/ (http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/07/31/updates-on-several-uncommitted-2012-players-and-a-couple-2013s/)
not sure there will be any spots available next year scholarship wise. We lose Cam and add Bobby. At this point I don't expect anyone to leave. Top to bottom we will be very talented and very deep.
As other have said, our scholarship balance is a little off as we only lose one player this year and five the following year.
Quote from: vu72 on August 06, 2011, 12:06:26 PM
not sure there will be any spots available next year scholarship wise. We lose Cam and add Bobby. At this point I don't expect anyone to leave. Top to bottom we will be very talented and very deep.
As other have said, our scholarship balance is a little off as we only lose one player this year and five the following year.
Bobby is already on scholarship isn't he? He just can't play until next year.
Quote from: valpofan56 on August 06, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 06, 2011, 12:06:26 PM
not sure there will be any spots available next year scholarship wise. We lose Cam and add Bobby. At this point I don't expect anyone to leave. Top to bottom we will be very talented and very deep.
As other have said, our scholarship balance is a little off as we only lose one player this year and five the following year.
Bobby is already on scholarship isn't he? He just can't play until next year.
Yes, Bobby is on scholarship even though he's a mandatory redshirt per NCAA rules on transfers...
You are correct. I'm confusing roster spots with scholarships. Which brings us back to another issue: We have one too many guys on scholarship unless somone is leaving or paying their own way. ???
Quote from: valpopal on August 06, 2011, 11:16:02 AM
Here is a list of uncommitted Indiana recruits that includes Brent Calhoun, a big man (6'8" 250 lbs.) from Warren Central for whom Valpo had shown interest in the past. He already has a few offers, including Appalachian State, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville, and Lamar. He is reportedly still developing as a player. How good he can be will not be proven until he performs in his senior year.
Still, I understand he would prefer to stay in Indiana and is visiting schools this month, believed to include IPFW, IUPUI, and Valpo. However, I wonder if Valpo's interest has lessened recently, especially since available roster space should be limited next year.
I believe Nick Osborne, who is on the list and was considering Valpo in the past, has just received an offer from Northwestern.
http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/07/31/updates-on-several-uncommitted-2012-players-and-a-couple-2013s/ (http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/07/31/updates-on-several-uncommitted-2012-players-and-a-couple-2013s/)
Despite the offer from Northwestern, Muncie's 6' 8" Nick Osborne committed to Loyola today. Therefore, I have to conclude we would have had a good chance to get him if we had continued to pursue him more. Still, his selection of Loyola over Northwestern has to be another good sign for the stature of the Horizon League.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/3343/ramblers-add-two-players-to-2012-class (http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/3343/ramblers-add-two-players-to-2012-class)
Quote from: valpopal on August 11, 2011, 12:09:14 AM
Quote from: valpopal on August 06, 2011, 11:16:02 AM
Here is a list of uncommitted Indiana recruits that includes Brent Calhoun, a big man (6'8" 250 lbs.) from Warren Central for whom Valpo had shown interest in the past. He already has a few offers, including Appalachian State, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville, and Lamar. He is reportedly still developing as a player. How good he can be will not be proven until he performs in his senior year.
Still, I understand he would prefer to stay in Indiana and is visiting schools this month, believed to include IPFW, IUPUI, and Valpo. However, I wonder if Valpo's interest has lessened recently, especially since available roster space should be limited next year.
I believe Nick Osborne, who is on the list and was considering Valpo in the past, has just received an offer from Northwestern.
http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/07/31/updates-on-several-uncommitted-2012-players-and-a-couple-2013s/ (http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/07/31/updates-on-several-uncommitted-2012-players-and-a-couple-2013s/)
Despite the offer from Northwestern, Muncie's 6' 8" Nick Osborne committed to Loyola today. Therefore, I have to conclude we would have had a good chance to get him if we had continued to pursue him more. Still, his selection of Loyola over Northwestern has to be another good sign for the stature of the Horizon League.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/3343/ramblers-add-two-players-to-2012-class (http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/colleges/post/_/id/3343/ramblers-add-two-players-to-2012-class)
Osborne might have fallen for Loyola because Porter Moser can offer "everyone will get a fair look" because it is his first year at Loyola, so he doesn't have the "only upperclassmen will get playing time", so once Osborne is in the fold, there could be a lot of transfers or guys who have found out they will not be getting the playing time they were valued at.
At Northwestern, Bill Carmody is doing exactly what the administration wants him to do. He is winning basketball games and graduating players. He's also running a clean program, so his work is doing exactly what the administration has asked of him. Osborne could have been lost on the bench at Northwestern, so Loyola is a logical choice, in my opinion.
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 14, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Ok, I give up. Who?
He just received the first of many offers...he has off the chart athletisim and a motor that never slows. If you have a chance this winter, go watch MC Marq play. There are a number of players on this team.
lowposter
Quote from: wh on September 14, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 14, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Ok, I give up. Who?
See the discussion earlier in this thread
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 15, 2011, 07:49:46 AM
Quote from: wh on September 14, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 14, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Ok, I give up. Who?
See the discussion earlier in this thread
When you resurrect a thread that hasn't been posted on for 5 weeks and has 9 pages of posts to boot, it's helpful when the poster links to an earlier reference rather than making everyone else go back to find something that makes sense with what you're talking about. Just a suggestion...
Here's the previous postings on Leke Solanke:
Quote from: wh on September 14, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 14, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Ok, I give up. Who?
Quote from: Valpo89 on August 04, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Quote from: historyman on August 04, 2011, 12:03:31 PM
I stopped by the ARC and saw Vashil shooting free throws. Just in my opinion, so take it for what it's worth, he looked extremely raw and uncoordinated. Some of the other players standing around said he has a lot of work to do but has great potential. I did see him stand under the basket and pin the ball against the rim (underside) while standing flat footed. He certainly is tall and looks athletic. There was also a Nigerian who was looking for a prep school in the United States because he is a senior in high school who was playing with the guys in the pick up game and looks extremely extremely athletic. Much more coorinated than Vashil. Fairly tall too. Maybee 6-7, 6-8.
Was the Nigerian kid named Leke Solanke? Heard he may be going to Hammond Baptist or Lalumiere because whatever kind of a visa he has won't allow him to go to a place like Valpo High School. Heard he lives with a family in Valpo.
Quote from: historyman on August 04, 2011, 12:36:14 PM
Could have been. I didn't ask his name. He would be a good recruit in so many ways.
Quote from: valpopal on August 04, 2011, 12:43:22 PM
Leke Solanke, who currently does live in Valpo:
Leke Highlights "18 yrs 6' 6 Shooting Guard" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5kpHObty0#)
Quote from: historyman on August 04, 2011, 01:33:26 PM
I can't honestly say I recognize him but his style is the same as #3 in green. I would agree that could be the guy I saw playing at the ARC.
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 14, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Quote from: Valpo89 on August 04, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Was the Nigerian kid named Leke Solanke? Heard he may be going to Hammond Baptist or Lalumiere because whatever kind of a visa he has won't allow him to go to a place like Valpo High School. Heard he lives with a family in Valpo.
Glad to hear that he is attending Marquette rather than Lalumiere. No connection to the sleazy Indiana Elite AAU program at Marquette.
Quote from: wh on September 15, 2011, 08:28:25 PM
Quote from: Crusader03 on September 14, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Leke is attending Mich City Marquette....from what I hear, he is a potential big time player
Quote from: Valpo89 on August 04, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Was the Nigerian kid named Leke Solanke? Heard he may be going to Hammond Baptist or Lalumiere because whatever kind of a visa he has won't allow him to go to a place like Valpo High School. Heard he lives with a family in Valpo.
Glad to hear that he is attending Marquette rather than Lalumiere. No connection to the sleazy Indiana Elite AAU program at Marquette.
He is with a good family as well, so he is in a good position to make wise decisions
I can confirm that Leke Solanke is the name of the young man you have seen at the ARC. He is 6'6 from Nigeria currently has an offer from Georgia State also is being recruited by: Loyola, Missouri State, Tennessee Tech, Tennessee Chattanooga, VALPO and many others. For some reason, Valpo feels players like Clay Yeo are better fit for the program because they have not yet offered him a scholarship. He was hoping for a package deal with his brother who is 6'11 and has interest from: UConn, Nebraska, IU, Purdue and others but has not happened. Would be a shame to miss out on the potential of Leke he has mad athletic skills and will be a very good player in the future.
It figures that Ron Hunter at Georgia State made Leke his first scholarship offer.
Today, from Indiana Basketball Recruits: "Head coaches from Loyola and Valpo, assistant coach from Oregon at Marquette Catholic to watch Solanke Adeleke, Michael Miller and Ryan Fazekas."
I also understand that Bryce and Jake went to see David Cohn of York High School (IL) yesterday.
Quote from: valpopal on September 20, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
Today, from Indiana Basketball Recruits: "Head coaches from Loyola and Valpo, assistant coach from Oregon at Marquette Catholic to watch Solanke Adeleke, Michael Miller and Ryan Fazekas."
I also understand that Bryce and Jake went to see David Cohn of York High School (IL) yesterday.
This is correct except it was Jake Diebler along with Luke Gore in Marquette today. Leke now has his 2nd D1 offer this time by Valpo conference rival Loyola. After the workout today, the Loyola Head Coach Porter Moser along with Assistant Jason Gardner took Leke in private and offered him a full ride....he is scheduled to make a campus visit there this weekend. Nice seeing Oregon there today as well.....my impression is that Valpo is now interested in Ryan Fazekas since they do not have a scholarship to offer Leke next season. :-\
It has been discussed, but unless someone leaves, I believe our scholarships are all extended for next season?
Quote from: valpotx on September 21, 2011, 12:52:47 AM
It has been discussed, but unless someone leaves, I believe our scholarships are all extended for next season?
Cohn is in the 2013 class and Fazekas is in the 2015 class.
Right, I was more speaking to the possibility of Solanke Adeleke. Is he class of 2012?
Quote from: valpopal on September 20, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
Today, from Indiana Basketball Recruits: "Head coaches from Loyola and Valpo, assistant coach from Oregon at Marquette Catholic to watch Solanke Adeleke, Michael Miller and Ryan Fazekas."
I also understand that Bryce and Jake went to see David Cohn of York High School (IL) yesterday.
I am told Bryce extended an official offer to shooting guard Cohn today, and we also have an offer out to 6'8" 215-lb Alex Foster, rated four stars and out of Chicago. Both are in the class of 2013.
Foster:
Alex Foster long athletic 6'8 2013 elite PF HS mix De La Salle Chicago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBIt30V9Ruo#ws)