William Jewell Lost to Concordia Nebraska 30-15. They trailed 23-0 at one point. WJ QB went 17-37-164yds. 2 TDs/2 Ints.
Dayton def. Duquesne, 23-20
St. Joseph's (Ind.) def. Valparaiso, 34-31 :(
Youngstown State def. Morehead State, 67-13
Northern Iowa def. Drake, 45-14
Georgetown def. Davidson, 42-6
Bucknell def. Marist, 27-14
Butler def. Wittenberg, 49-24
Campbell def. Virginia-Wise, 56-21
Florida Tech def. Stetson, 20-12
Jacksonville State def. Jacksonville, 48-13
San Diego def. Western New Mexico, 38-35
After being killed by YSU the last two years it's nice to know that YSU set Total Offense records against someone else.
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio -- The No. 25 Youngstown State football team rolled up a school-record 718 yards on Saturday afternoon at Stambaugh Stadium en route to a 67-13 win over Morehead State before a crowd of 13,226.
The Penguins tallied 359 passing yards, 359 rushing yards, 33 first downs and converted 7-of-10 third-down chances. YSU's total included 207 yards in each of the first two quarters.
Freshman quarterback Austin Gahafer led Morehead State with a 16-of-23 performance, 148 passing yards and one touchdown. He also rushed for 32 yards and one score in his collegiate debut.
William Jewell 35 Valpo 34
St. Joe was predicted to finish 4th in their conference, and Wiliam Jewell was predicted to finish 5th in the same conference it should be another close game, but since William Jewell is still not wearing Campbell jerseys it will be another close loss.
*it was good to see that Valpo wasn't on YSU's record books. I also think there's a bigger need to run things up than in years past. Wolford's seat is getting pretty warm in Youngstown. 3 years and no playoffis will do that there.
Since Homer is an alum, we need to thank these guys for making our Drews possible by kicking them in the family Jewells
Concordia Nebraska is a small Lutheran college of 2200 students. If they beat William Jewell Valpo should pound them. If we don't then schedule Wisconsin Lutheran again, oh wait, Wisconsin Lutheran is probably way better. ???
It is time we knock out a ham and egger at home. Valpo wins big.
Valpo 38
WJ 14
I believe this and I expect this. If not, Carlson will be joining Lane Kiffin in the unemployment line.
William Jewell 23
Valpo 30
Newman will kick three field goals.
Valpo 23
William Jewell 14
We need a win. We need to finish a game strong, even if we are ahead.
Valpo - 41
Jewell - 17
This is what we need, not that I really believe my prediction.
Quote from: bbtds on September 08, 2013, 07:40:58 PMNewman will kick three field goals.
Seinfeld saying Newman! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9_8YxDQYCo#)
Newman may even win a game for Valpo this year. After I found out he wasn't the one who flubbed the first extra point against St Joe I'm even more encouraged by him.
I think this will be another close game. I think we will score enough points to win but the defense scares me. We have given up over 500 yards of offense in both games so far. Coach Carlson is happy about the run defense giving up less than 4 yards a carry against St. Joes but we gave up 14 yards a pass completion and 400 yards. I don't see our future changing with this type of Carlson led defense.
But I think We'll beat William Jewel!
Valpo 24
William Jewel 21
Quote from: willy on September 12, 2013, 11:31:44 AM
I think this will be another close game. I think we will score enough points to win but the defense scares me. We have given up over 500 yards of offense in both games so far. Coach Carlson is happy about the run defense giving up less than 4 yards a carry against St. Joes but we gave up 14 yards a pass completion and 400 yards. I don't see our future changing with this type of Carlson led defense.
But I think We'll beat William Jewel!
Valpo 24
William Jewel 21
I certainly believe this result is more likely then beating anyone by more than 10 points. We just don't have the defense to stop any team for very long.
Also I wonder how good our offensive line will be this week with the injuries we suffered against St Joe. I think Valpo will compete against William Jewell but beat any team by more than 10 with our lapses on both offense and defense is not at all likely. I just hope we keep up the improvement even if the improvements are small steps.
Hope we don't lose our jewels to William Jewel. Ouch! :'(
It's a good thing we haven't earned the right to look beyond any opponent, because I'm already worried about the following week, versus Theodore Osco.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on September 12, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
It's a good thing we haven't earned the right to look beyond any opponent, because I'm already worried about the following week, versus Theodore Osco.
I say we kick them in the teeth and see who will save their souls now.
Quote from: a3uge on September 12, 2013, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on September 12, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
It's a good thing we haven't earned the right to look beyond any opponent, because I'm already worried about the following week, versus Theodore Osco.
I say we kick them in the teeth and see who will save their souls now.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on September 12, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
It's a good thing we haven't earned the right to look beyond any opponent, because I'm already worried about the following week, versus Theodore Osco.
I'm really worried about the game against Charles Walgreen. They started their season at the corner of Happy and Healthy.
Has there been any news about the lineman who had the major injury towards the end of Saturday's game? I forget the name of the player, but I know chef would have some information about it.
No info on that, Run, but I looked at the 2 deep in the latest release and 6 pure freshmen are now on the 2-Deep. Waiting for Bama Powell to move into a starting role -- he received last week's team award for Big Play (2 of them). Right now the 3 down DL starters are only 240, 240, 245. Powell is 308. The freshman kicker, Newman is now the #1 place kicker.
Powell plays on must run down situations. He hasn't been listed as a starter, but has played about half the snaps. The injury to Bodzianowski was a serious one.
Knee? Bods is still listed on the 2-deep as the starter. Behind him is Colm Flaherty, 6-3, 295, a junior-eligible senior. Don't lose any size, but a starter is a starter.
Quote from: chef on September 13, 2013, 02:44:19 PM
The injury to Bodzianowski was a serious one.
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 13, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
Knee? Bods is still listed on the 2-deep as the starter. Behind him is Colm Flaherty, 6-3, 295, a junior-eligible senior. Don't lose any size, but a starter is a starter.
That's really going to hurt the run game and the protection Hoffman desperately needs to make his plays. Lets hope Bodzianowski's replacement is up to the task.
Game is being televised. Announced on the VU Athletics site.
I am now firmly in the 'Fire Carlson' camp. We should win games like last week and at home against William Jewell...
Welcome to the club. I think Carlson should go NOW! His leaving just might energize the team. But,ML will stay with him until the end of the 0-11 season. BOOK IT! :crazy:
Quote from: milanmiracle on September 08, 2013, 09:49:46 AM
William Jewell 35 Valpo 34
St. Joe was predicted to finish 4th in their conference, and Wiliam Jewell was predicted to finish 5th in the same conference it should be another close game, but since William Jewell is still not wearing Campbell jerseys it will be another close loss.
*it was good to see that Valpo wasn't on YSU's record books. I also think there's a bigger need to run things up than in years past. Wolford's seat is getting pretty warm in Youngstown. 3 years and no playoffis will do that there.
Darn! I was soooo close...missed by a point! Ugh. William Jewell 36 Valpo 34.
Oh well...the Camels are coming! They have 2 weeks of positive quotes to get them ready. (I am not sure if I am predicting a win yet or not).
Enough is enough. Same old post-game comments from Carlson. Broken record - need to play for 60 minutes, play each play as hard as we can, great effort, great fight, etc. He's happy to have two weeks to "get things straightened out before Campbell." Really? You've had over 3 years to straighten it out. Absolutely should not have lost to this team. What now, Mark Labarbera?
I'm no kind of football fan. But, interesting to me that we lost while covering substantially more yardage. They scored on 26 and 27 yard drives? Bad punting on our part? Or what's going on?
Ah, wait, turnovers! Interceptions and fumbles, I guess?
Quote from: milanmiracle on September 14, 2013, 04:11:22 PMOh well...the Camels are coming! They have 2 weeks of positive quotes to get them ready. (I am not sure if I am predicting a win yet or not).
Just because we beat Campbell before doesn't mean we beat them again. With Mike Minter now as head coach you have to believe the Camels will likely have improved and unfortunately Valpo regressed against William Jewell.
No way the Crusaders should have given up the 2nd & 3rd touchdowns in the 1st & 3rd quarters. It's totally ridiculous that Valpo can't make those tackles. Awful! Just awful! Those sudden lapses in being able to make plays simply ruin the Crusaders chances at victory.
I don't believe we beat Campbell this year and it's very possible we don't win another game under Carlson.
I don't think Mark LaBarbera will replace Carlson during the season but I can't see him coming back after it's over.
Historyman - sarcasm doesn't translate well over the net. I don't think Valpo will beat the fighting Mike Minters. They've already won a game this year and by a decent margin. It will take a minor miracle for Valpo to win another game with this staff.
I really feel for the kids who have experienced very little success during their time on the field.
*it gets awful quiet around here when the Kool Aid runs out...
Time to bring back the motivational speeches. It worked against Campbell.
Either bag Carlson and/or bag football.
This is embarrassing and unacceptable. We cannot even beat a ham and egger team at home. I feel bad for the kids and parents. This is not working - the Valpo administration need to quit wimping around, earn their big paychecks and make some tough decisions.
http://blogs.valpo.edu/football/ (http://blogs.valpo.edu/football/)
The Crusaders return to Brown Field this Saturday at 1 PM to face William Jewell College from Kansas City. We were originally scheduled to play Wagner University from New York on this date. Wagner backed out after scheduling a guarantee game for this date. William Jewell had this Saturday open and we were able to work out a return game to Kansas City in 2014. It will be the first meeting between the two schools. On a side note, William Jewell is the alma mater of Dr. Homer Drew.
http://www.wagnerathletics.com/news/2013/9/14/FB_0914130643.aspx?path=football (http://www.wagnerathletics.com/news/2013/9/14/FB_0914130643.aspx?path=football)
Syracuse, NY - After opening the season with losses to Big 10 foes Penn St. and Northwestern, Syracuse Orange hit on all cylinders this afternoon in posting a 54-0 victory over Wagner in front of 33,299 fans at the Carrier Dome in the 2013 home opener for the Orange.
....the Seahawks also saw their season record fall to 1-2.
One of two things have occurred. The first is I have terribly overstated the ability of our kids. William Jewell lost to Concordia Nebraska by 15. We are suppose to be D1 FCS. Something does not compute. If we are good as we are suppose to be we should have beat the predicted 8th space finisher in their D2 conference by a minimum of 3 tds. Instead we manage to once again lose a close one.
The second thing that comes to mind is that the kids really do have the talent but our coaching just sucks. Given the numbers posted by Hoffman today and still a posted loss, I'll put my money on thing 2. Time for a change.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 14, 2013, 08:26:14 PM
...the Valpo administration need to quit wimping around, earn their big paychecks and make some tough decisions.
Just to clarify, what exactly is the tough decision? If you're referring to getting rid of Carlson and his winning percentage of 6, is that really a tough decision?
That being said, I think they should keep him until his contract is up. The program can't get worse and VU will generate the same amount of money if they never win a game. Why cost the university money when they've demonstrated they're okay with losing football.
Agree, USC, the administration needs to step up NOW. Do not wait until the end of the season to get rid of Carlson. Show this team that you care. This debacle has gone on long enough. Two wins going into the fourth game of his fourth season is ridiculous. This team is the laughingstock of campus. I feel sorry for them. They are giving it their all and are the victims of terrible coaching. Carlson and his revolving door of coaches have managed to take a program that was already suffering to new levels of awfulness! Not sure who would be the choice for the interim HC, but can't be any worse than what we are dealing with now! Time for President Heckler and the Board to prove to these kids and parents who are spending a fortune for a Valpo education that they want football to succeed. If Carlson is still here next week, we will all get the message.
Note to 2014 recruits looking at Valpo. Run somewhere else fast. Things are as bad as they look and worse.
Quote from: milanmiracle on September 14, 2013, 08:52:03 PMQuote from: usc4valpo on September 14, 2013, 08:26:14 PM...the Valpo administration need to quit wimping around, earn their big paychecks and make some tough decisions.
Just to clarify, what exactly is the tough decision? If you're referring to getting rid of Carlson and his winning percentage of 6, is that really a tough decision? That being said, I think they should keep him until his contract is up. The program can't get worse and VU will generate the same amount of money if they never win a game. Why cost the university money when they've demonstrated they're okay with losing football.
The tough decision is to show some guts and either fire the coach, or if necessary and it does not fit in with the Valpo vision, get rid of football. You cannot keep ignoring that you have a problem, and the administration is doing that right now.
You have a bye week, if you are going to can a coach during the season, this may be the time. But there are other issues that need to be fixed besides Carlson.
From the PFL site:
Dayton 21, Robert Morris 14
Jacksonville 69, Morehead State 19
Marist 43, Georgetown 23
William Jewell 36, Valparaiso 34
Charleston Southern 30, Campbell 10
Butler 31, Franklin 28
Mercer 61, Warner 0
Lenoir-Rhyne 34, Davidson 18
Dayton gave YSU a game and now they've beaten a NEC (some scholarships) team
Marist has beaten a Patriot League team for the first time.
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 14, 2013, 10:26:13 PMFrom the PFL site: Dayton 21, Robert Morris 14 Jacksonville 69, Morehead State 19 Marist 43, Georgetown 23 William Jewell 36, Valparaiso 34 Charleston Southern 30, Campbell 10 Butler 31, Franklin 28 Mercer 61, Warner 0 Lenoir-Rhyne 34, Davidson 18 Dayton gave YSU a game and now they've beaten a NEC (some scholarships) team Marist has beaten a Patriot League team for the first time.
and Campbell stayed competitive with Charleston Southern! they are not a gimme - heck what am I saying after that my weak 38-14 Valpo prediction. No game for Valpo will be a gimme.
As everyone has already mentioned, the game was a great disappointment. We should have won this game as well as the game last week, and there are no excuses. Something different needs to be done.
However, as some have pointed out, we must remember that the players have extended tremendous effort at all times. Today's game was a difficult one from the moment Kent Warren was injured and in great pain. When Hutson hurt his shoulder, it appeared the offense would shut down, and it did for a while, but the team rallied in the fourth quarter. Hoffman had a record-breaking game. Of course, they fell short, but the fourth quarter was evidence of their unwillingness to give up, and I applaud that.
Even after all that happened, had a missed field goal been made or the refs not blown a call when they ruled a Valpo fumble after the player had been down by contact, the game still could have been won. I don't offer either as an excuse but as a tribute to the way the players kept fighting. I saw how easy it would have been for them to hang their heads before the fourth quarter and give up, but they didn't. Now, it will be interesting to see how they will react in the two weeks before the next game. I hope they show the same resilience.
I did take a number of photos at the game, and more than twenty can be found at Valpo Sports Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157635528820812/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157635528820812/)
In addition, I have two here, including one that shows the injury to Warren's left leg as it begins to twist under him while being tackled:
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Great post and pictures. In the end, it is all about the kids. Keep fighting!
Outstanding photos! I wonder which team Homer was rooting for...
That pic of Tevin Johnson coming out of the fog is superb! The concentration in his eyes and the way his arms are positioned were captured at just the right time. :thumbsup:
BTW I couldn't tell from the TV coverage or from your pics Pal, but did the visitor stands have a "Valpo Crusader Football" banner strung across the top like they do for soccer? The soccer banner has some great graphics and added to the stadium feel (what little there is of it, at least).
Had we won the game we would be celebrating Eric Hoffman's terrific performance: 495 yards passing for four touchdowns. He could have had even greater stats since a few long passes went right through receivers' hands. I hope this gives him and the offense some needed confidence as they prepare for their next game. Congrats to Eric!
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Quote from: 414 on September 14, 2013, 09:01:28 PMIf Carlson is still here next week, we will all get the message.
Actually I think the message was delivered last year from the board when the head coach was retained. The board will allow Mark Labarbera to "let the head coach resign" (as Keith Freeman was allowed to resign) at the end of his contract but they will not hire another head coach or promote an assistant coach to head coach in the middle of the season and garner extra expenses for the football program. As far as the board is concerned to h*ll with the kids.
Quote from: 414 on September 14, 2013, 09:01:28 PMIf Carlson is still here next week, we will all get the message.
I think "all" is a bit much...there people on this board who will still defend him being retained.
Quote from: milanmiracle on September 15, 2013, 11:53:13 AMQuote from: 414 on September 14, 2013, 09:01:28 PMIf Carlson is still here next week, we will all get the message.
I think "all" is a bit much...there people on this board who will still defend him being retained.
I'm not so sure there is anyone left on this message board saying to still give Carlson a chance. I just think they all believe that replacing Carlson in the middle of the season will not help anything and since the board seems to be about not overspending on athletics that the cost compared to return of promoting another person to head coach in the middle of a season is not worth it.
Anyone want to claim that Carlson should still be extended a chance to prove he is the man to turn Valpo football around?
I believe Campbell and/or Davidson fired their HFBC in mid-season (actually more like early November but before the season was over) last year. Didn't help them much but it was a statement.
Don't think there are many DC defenders, just some realists who figure the contract will be allowed to run out. :(
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 15, 2013, 12:11:36 PMDon't think there are many DC defenders, just some realists who figure the contract will be allowed to run out. :(
Count me among the realists...I don't think there is any way he gets fired midseason. There's a better chance of me growing antlers than for Carlson to be fired now. My
guess is he's on a 5 year contract, and will be allowed to finish that contract. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he's back next year.
Quote from: milanmiracle on September 15, 2013, 11:53:13 AMQuote from: 414 on September 14, 2013, 09:01:28 PMIf Carlson is still here next week, we will all get the message.
I think "all" is a bit much...there people on this board who will still defend him being retained.
Well, I am not seeing anyone on the board defending Carlson right now. I am sure he is a nice guy and has football knowledge, but in nicest way I can say it, this situation for him is a square peg in a round hole. In the US, millions of talented people have failed in their job basically because it is not the right job fit.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 15, 2013, 12:32:29 PMQuote from: milanmiracle on September 15, 2013, 11:53:13 AMQuote from: 414 on September 14, 2013, 09:01:28 PMIf Carlson is still here next week, we will all get the message.
I think "all" is a bit much...there people on this board who will still defend him being retained.
Well, I am not seeing anyone on the board defending Carlson right now. I am sure he is a nice guy and has football knowledge, but in nicest way I can say it, this situation for him is a square peg in a round hole. In the US, millions of talented people have failed in their job basically because it is not the right job fit.
I agree with this.
St. Joe lost 35-31 to Siena Heights Univ(who?) in Rensselear on Saturday.
http://athletics.saintjoe.edu/news/2013/9/14/FB_0914134951.aspx?path=football (http://athletics.saintjoe.edu/news/2013/9/14/FB_0914134951.aspx?path=football)
In a back-and-forth contest, the final two minutes received the most attention in Saint Joseph's College football teams 35-31 loss to Siena Heights University. SJC recorded 525 yards of total offense, but could not get the final five needed for victory in the last two seconds of the game.
Quote from: bbtds on September 15, 2013, 02:27:05 PM
St. Joe lost 35-31 to Siena Heights Univ(who?) in Rensselear on Saturday.
http://athletics.saintjoe.edu/news/2013/9/14/FB_0914134951.aspx?path=football (http://athletics.saintjoe.edu/news/2013/9/14/FB_0914134951.aspx?path=football)
In a back-and-forth contest, the final two minutes received the most attention in Saint Joseph's College football teams 35-31 loss to Siena Heights University. SJC recorded 525 yards of total offense, but could not get the final five needed for victory in the last two seconds of the game.
Siena Heights is a NAIA school located in Michigan. So just to be clear, Valpo a D1 institution, couldn't beat St. Joe, but an NAIA school could accomplish the task?!? Pathetic.
VALPO football and some observations:
1. Team warms up and gathers in the tunnel with little or no emotion, many seem lost and casual. No juice & no 'tude...not good. They should ALL be taking the field like pent up dogs ready to smack WJ all over the turf.
2. I have never seen so many missed tackles, dropped passes, bad angles for pursuit and blown assignments (even at the HS level let alone here). No corrections are made real time, no subs put in and the same players make the same plays over and over. Film sessions should be lasting 4-5 hours!
3. How many kickers do we have?
4. At this level you make things happen instead of using the old "one play either way and maybe we win " line. Take the field expecting to dominate, focus and finish. Jewell hit harder all day and their coaches were louder as they pulled players on the spot to reinforce their talking points.
QB had awesome game...congrats!
Quote from: milanmiracle on September 15, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Siena Heights is a NAIA school located in Michigan. So just to be clear, Valpo a D1 institution, couldn't beat St. Joe, but an NAIA school could accomplish the task?!? Pathetic.
And WJ lost to Concordia-Nebraska, another NAIA school. So, both of our losses were to D-II schools who couldn't beat NAIA schools.
Not that it matters - well maybe it does - but I think NAIA schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships.
Valpo gives scholarships, just not athletic ones. The notion that all football players pay full tuition is just not true. Most Valpo students receive scholarship or grant money of some sort and some how I'm sure the football players get their fair share. We need to stop giving excuses for our terrible team record. All PFL teams are in the same boat.
The educational opportunity at a place like Valpo is vastly superior to say, Concordia Nebraska, with their 2200 students. Somehow they have managed to attract better coaches or better players based on their result v. William Jewell v. ours. It is inexcusable.
Quote from: vu72 on September 16, 2013, 09:51:55 AMThe educational opportunity at a place like Valpo is vastly superior to say, Concordia Nebraska, with their 2200 students. Somehow they have managed to attract better coaches or better players based on their result v. William Jewell v. ours. It is inexcusable.
I suppose the educational standard could be a piece of it. Valpo's admissions standards are a pretty big tent. But, if our minimum bar is higher than theirs, it could make a difference in what athletic talent we're able to attract.
I think the key players are paying attention, who knows...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/valparaiso_university/9754318763/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/valparaiso_university/9754318763/#)