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Title: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 15, 2016, 03:21:46 PM
Ohio State is on the schedule for a September 21st match.

[tweet]742810501005094914[/tweet]

It was retweeted on the SMO Twitter site as well.

Isaiah Madrid, Nico Campbell and Ramone Howell apparently are doing well in collegiate summer leagues around the midwest.

Last season's roster shows only 3 seniors.  We'll definitely miss MF Jordan Aidoud, but the returning core is experienced and last year MSO knocked off two nationally ranked teams in the course of a week.  But it's not been the OOC record that wins the HL.  This year they need to be solid in conference, get a good seed and then win it.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on June 16, 2016, 11:27:40 AM
Nice! I remember well the 2011 game when Ohio State came to Valpo. 0-0 draw, and my kids were along.

I _think_ that was the game where they gave out the plastic VU vuvuzelas. Was quite a racket from the fans!
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: oklahomamick on June 16, 2016, 12:08:00 PM
I was on the team in 2003 when we tied OSU at Columbus. 
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 16, 2016, 12:27:06 PM
We need to get out of that rut with a win.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on June 16, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on June 16, 2016, 12:08:00 PM
I was on the team in 2003 when we tied OSU at Columbus. 

I had no idea you played! Scoring goals, notching assists. Olympic Development Program. Cool!  Funny that the roster back then just lists positions as "A" and "D".

Still lace them up?
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: oklahomamick on June 16, 2016, 03:06:09 PM
I didn't have very many goals or assists....This beer belly only coaches now....heading down to regionals as my team won state last week. 

It's funny, because the soccer assistant at Tulsa University and I were just talking about that game today at camp.  He was on that Ohio St. team. 
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on June 16, 2016, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on June 16, 2016, 03:06:09 PMheading down to regionals as my team won state last week. 

U15? In any case, congrats to you and the team! And good luck this weekend.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: 78crusader on June 16, 2016, 04:32:34 PM
It seems like MSO gets more big wins, and more disappointing losses (almost always in HL action) than any other VU team.  Perplexing.

Paul
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: bbtds on June 18, 2016, 07:14:01 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on June 16, 2016, 04:32:34 PM
It seems like MSO gets more big wins, and more disappointing losses (almost always in HL action) than any other VU team.  Perplexing.

Paul

Really?

VUMBB wins--Florida State, St Marys, BYU
           losses--Ball State, Wright State (2), Green Bay


Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 19, 2016, 08:56:03 AM
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Looks like we're getting a Belgian national?

Lommel United is a Belgian association football club based in the city of Lommel, Limburg.

SOEVEREINSTADION
City:Lommel
Opened:1992
Capacity:12911
Surface:grass
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: M on June 20, 2016, 08:52:57 AM
It is probably easier to upset, and be upset, in soccer where not many points are tallied and one fluky goal could decide the game.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on June 20, 2016, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: M on June 20, 2016, 08:52:57 AM
It is probably easier to upset, and be upset, in soccer where not many points are tallied and one fluky goal could decide the game.

I'm still learning the game, to be sure. But, it seems like VU prefers a strong "defense first" style, which maybe enhances these odds.

If you keep it 0-0, one completed chance from your side might let you beat a very strong opponent.

But, if you have trouble recording multiple goals in a game, it might make it harder, also, to win games regularly against games you maybe "should" beat.

Sheer speculation. It does seem a sort of regular curse with the last team in recent seasons. Very impressive results in the pre-season, but then struggling in conference.

Not that I have a problem with "defense first" - clean sheets seem like good soccer to me. But, it's of course always a challenge to produce the complete package. Clean sheets and an offense that regularly scores two or three a game, and i guess we'd be advancing in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 20, 2016, 11:10:47 AM
Seems like Mike is now going after the strikers and MFs that could complete the package.  Depth is also a key to those positions.  The number of talented shooters you have, the less the chance of a drop in offensive pressure when subbing.  In the  NCAA, unlike the MLS and FIFA, there is limited subbing in and out.  That's part of the reason for the sometimes frenetic pace of a college soccer match in comparison to the flow of the game seen in Copa America or EUFA.  There, the scorers are on on the field the whole game (sometimes subbed out to protect leads near the end) -- not so in college.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on June 20, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 20, 2016, 11:10:47 AMIn the  NCAA, unlike the MLS and FIFA, there is limited subbing in and out.

Sometimes they feel practically _unlimited_! I've looked up the NCAA rules once or twice, but never internalized them. They seemed complicated.

If anything, I've been a little surprised they don't sub _even more_. Fresh legs, fresh lungs, and all. But, surely it helps your own team to have some flow on the field.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 20, 2016, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: agibson on June 20, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 20, 2016, 11:10:47 AMIn the  NCAA, unlike the MLS and FIFA, there is limited subbing in and out.

Sometimes they feel practically _unlimited_! I've looked up the NCAA rules once or twice, but never internalized them. They seemed complicated.

If anything, I've been a little surprised they don't sub _even more_. Fresh legs, fresh lungs, and all. But, surely it helps your own team to have some flow on the field.

I concur  :)
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: valpotx on June 21, 2016, 10:15:19 AM
I always thought that they had unlimited subs in college, based on how often you see the same player go into the game and then be pulled.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 21, 2016, 01:58:49 PM
Schedule just came out.  Another ambitious bunch of OOC games -- six matches against teams which finished in the top-75 in the nation in RPI last season.

@ Notre Dame (exhibition)
@ Loyola
@ SIU Edwardsville
Western Illinois
@ Ohio State
@ Eastern Illinois
@ Omaha
@ Western Michigan
@IPFW
IUPUI

8 home dates, 10 away matches
5 home HL matches, 4 away
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: FWalum on June 22, 2016, 07:24:30 AM
I am sure there is an easy answer for this question, but to my knowledge VU has never participated in the National Soccer Festival here in Fort Wayne, why is that when teams like Wright State will be participating this year?  http://www.nationalsoccerfestival.com/teams-summer/ (http://www.nationalsoccerfestival.com/teams-summer/)
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 22, 2016, 11:36:02 AM
Send an email to Mike  (mike.avery@valpo.edu) asking that question.  He's always up front about his program.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: valpo64 on June 22, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
I talked to Terry S., Director of the National Soccer Festival regarding our participation in his event.  He said Valpo last played in the event 3 years ago and beat IPFW.  He added they will try to get VU back in the future and appreciated my comments.  We'll see if it happens in the future.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: FWalum on June 23, 2016, 07:44:38 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on June 22, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
I talked to Terry S., Director of the National Soccer Festival regarding our participation in his event.  He said Valpo last played in the event 3 years ago and beat IPFW.  He added they will try to get VU back in the future and appreciated my comments.  We'll see if it happens in the future.
Thank you so much for checking on my question.  I guess I have not been following the festival as closely as I did when my son was playing in high school and was not aware that VU had played in the event.  I hope to see them when they return!!
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on June 23, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: valpotx on June 21, 2016, 10:15:19 AM
I always thought that they had unlimited subs in college, based on how often you see the same player go into the game and then be pulled.

I looked it up again, quickly.

Probably there are more descriptive sources, but the official rules seem to be
http://www.ncaapublications.com/DownloadPublication.aspx?download=SO17.pdf

Section 3.6, which also has some Q&A
Quote
3.6 Re-entry Conditions, Restrictions, Exceptions
3.6.1 Field Players. With reference to periods of play, substitutions are permitted
as follows:
First half: no re-entry.
Second half: one re-entry.
First overtime period: no re-entry.
Second overtime period: no re-entry

The rules for goalkeepers are even a bit looser - a little funny, since they're rarely subbed.

I'm pretty sure the rules above would mean things like:

If you play in the first half, and come off, you can't come back on during the first half. But, you could start the second half, or otherwise enter play during the second half, get subbed off during the second half, _and_ re-enter during the second half.

So, if you wanted both a lot of playing time and a lot of rest, as an individual, you could:

Start the first half, come off in the 30th minute. Start the second half, come off in the 70th minute. Re-enter in the 75th minute. Come off in the 85th minute. Start the first overtime (91st minute), come off in the 100th minute. Start the second overtime (105th minute), come out in the 115th minute.

One way to think about it, I believe, would be "the only re-entry is allowed during the second half, but every period is accounted separately". So, you can enter the game once during each period, and twice during the second half.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 23, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
Thanks for the explanation - you made it pretty simple.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on June 26, 2016, 08:38:38 AM
Men's Soccer Adds Steffen Pulinx to Incoming Class
Saturday, June 25, 2016
Valparaiso University men's soccer head coach Mike Avery announced today that Steffen Pulinx, a 6'3" defender from Genk, Belgium, will be joining the Crusader program as a freshman entering the 2016 season. Pulinx joins the previously announced class of incoming players to give Valpo an eight-player group of newcomers for 2016.

STEFFEN PULINX
Hometown: Genk, Belgium
Position: Defender
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 180 lbs.
Previous School: Onze-Lieve-Vrouwlyceum Genk
Club Team: Lommel United

Coach Mike Avery on Steffen:

"We are very pleased to announce the addition of Steffen Pulinx to our Valparaiso soccer family. Steffen is a great fit for us, gives us exactly what we needed to help round out this recruiting class, and is a player that has a very bright future as a Crusader. Steffen is a defensive player that reminds me of another Stefan who starred at Valparaiso, Stefan Antonijevic. Antonijevic was the Horizon League Defensive Player of the Year in 2011 before moving on to a career in professional soccer (currently with the Tampa Bay Rowdies of the NASL), and our newest Steffen has the same potential. Steffen is a dependable defender, has good size and athletic ability, and he has the technical ability to help us build possession as we like to do. Steffen can play as an outside back, a central defender, or even as a sitting midfield player. He has played at a high level in Belgium, has played with and against quality players, and this experience is evident in his positioning and in the way he handles the game. As a student, Steffen is equally as impressive. He comes to Valparaiso with a perfect 4.0 from his Belgian secondary school, and we have enjoyed getting to know Steffen through this process. He is thoughtful, well spoken and very mature, and I think he will be a great addition to our university community."
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: bbtds on June 27, 2016, 02:06:33 AM
FYI, Genk is in the Belgian province of Limburg. They will have an expert in stinky cheese and waffles on this year's VUMSO team.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on July 11, 2016, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: bbtds on June 27, 2016, 02:06:33 AMThey will have an expert in stinky cheese

Graduating Jordan Aidoud, it can't hurt!
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: vu72 on August 22, 2016, 05:26:17 PM
Have been watching Valpo v. ND, currently ND 1-1 halfway through the second.  For a while I thought I was watching Kentucky v. Texas Western in 1966.  ND has to be the whitest team I have ever seen!

Final, 1-1.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: bbtds on August 23, 2016, 03:03:32 PM
Notre Dame's fairly short highlight reel. It does not have the Valpo goal.

http://www.und.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/082216aaa.html
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on October 02, 2016, 02:41:53 PM
Just a quick note to say that the men are doing well in conference. I've been busy watching and attending games and not posting much (some on Twitter)...

About half way through conference play, and they beat Oakland at Brown Field last night 1-0 to take over 1st place (top of the table!).

Their goal scorer was playing just his second game in a Crusader uniform. Senior transfer (from some place in Florida?) who had apparently been out injured thus far in the season. Got big minutes yesterday. Kendan Anderson. Nice to have reinforcements mid-season.

Not the sort of signature, top-25 wins we've enjoyed in past seasons, but still a chance to do some damage in conference!

A pretty big non-conference game, I suspect, tomorrow. Omaha, who has historically been a good team. Playing Saturday-Monday seems a bit nuts to me, but that's college soccer I guess (maybe one of these days they'll finally expand the season).
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: oklahomamick on October 02, 2016, 08:51:50 PM
correct, the season needs to be expanded and several coaches across the board are pushing for it.  This year is Mike Avery's 10th season and he's done a great job
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on October 03, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
Quote from: agibson on October 02, 2016, 02:41:53 PMTheir goal scorer was playing just his second game in a Crusader uniform. Senior transfer (from some place in Florida?) who had apparently been out injured thus far in the season. Got big minutes yesterday. Kendan Anderson. Nice to have reinforcements mid-season.

Kendan was awarded HL Offensive Player of the Week. He apparently had a goal and an assist in his VU debut earlier in the week against EIU (which was, I think, a somewhat experimental squad, and a 3-0 winner).

Cory Griffith had the same honor for the women. Not a bad week!

The men are back at it tonight in what might be a big non-confernece matchup at Omaha. Looks like video is available, but that it might cost $9
http://www.omavs.com/liveEvents/liveEvents.dbml?SPID=135116&db_oem_id=31400

7:00 PM kickoff.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on October 03, 2016, 02:53:10 PM
I was only there for the second half, so didn't see it in person.

But, someone got a nice video

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Really a pretty goal. Makes it look so easy. Coach Mike Avery called it a "wonder-strike" (is that English for "golazo!"?).

Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: VULB#62 on October 03, 2016, 10:31:45 PM
MSO took down Omaha 1-0 tonight. They traveled to Omaha with a limited number of players and left a couple starters home to rest. Madrid got the only goal on a PK. we got out shot by a big margin but hung in for the win.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on October 04, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
That's four on the trot! And two showcasing squad depth. Important home game Saturday night against Milwaukee. It will again be a battle for top of the table.

With three teams winless in conference (I'm sure they'd like to have a do-over on that Brown Field draw with Detroit) the top is likely to remain congested for a while. After Saturday we'll be more than halfway through the league schedule.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on October 18, 2016, 08:57:49 PM
Conner Cappelletti (VU 2011) got called up by the Guamanian National team. East Asian Cup - games against Taiwan, North Korea, Hong Kong next month. Pretty cool.

https://www.laneunitedfc.com/uncategorized/lane-uniteds-conner-cappelletti-selected-to-play-for-guam-mens-national-team
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_EAFF_East_Asian_Cup

The current VUMSO team knocked off IPFW tonight 2-0. We currently sit in third after their (fluky?) loss at Green Bay. Wright State's ahead of us, and we still get a crack at them. We already beat Oakland, who sits in second.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: valpotx on October 28, 2016, 12:42:34 AM
I believe that the only other guy in recent memory to cap for his national team was a player from Puerto Rico several years back (Betancourt?).  Always a cool thing to see.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on October 28, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: valpotx on October 28, 2016, 12:42:34 AM
I believe that the only other guy in recent memory to cap for his national team was a player from Puerto Rico several years back (Betancourt?).  Always a cool thing to see.

Betancourt sounded right, but I mis-remembered his first name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Betancourt

6 caps, and a goal against the US! I was likely watching the game - I don't remember noting his presence. Or them name-dropping Valpo. But I do remember him playing for the youth sides while at VU.

Nico Campbell and Ramone Howell have both played for Jamaican youth sides. Or Ramone was called in to U23 camp, at least, and Nico certainly got starts.

Kendan Anderson now too, but not AFAIK since joining the VU roster. (It does _not_ help that there's also a Kendon Anderson who plays for Jamaica. Almost the same age, looks like they were at the same school too. 90% sure they're not the same person.)

Not sure if anybody else has played for their country's senior team.

Paging Aaron Leavitt?

I've occasionally wondered how many USMNT caps have come from Horizon League athletes. Jay Demerit is the only name that immediately comes to mind. Or senior caps from other countries would be interesting too.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: vusupporter on October 31, 2016, 11:33:42 PM
This seems good: 3 goals in 81 seconds.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/msoccer/news/2016-17/15869/anderson-provides-fastest-hat-trick-in-ncaa-history-in-victory-over-iupui/
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on November 01, 2016, 09:15:06 AM
Quote from: vusupporter on October 31, 2016, 11:33:42 PM
This seems good: 3 goals in 81 seconds.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/msoccer/news/2016-17/15869/anderson-provides-fastest-hat-trick-in-ncaa-history-in-victory-over-iupui/

It was fast! IUPUI wasn't offering much competition, so I'll confess that I wasn't paying a lot of attention at the time. I did watch the PK closely. But, who's looking for a stolen kickoff pass?

Unfortunately, I don't think the game was on ESPN3, so there's likely no official video. They could have played the whole thing on SportsCenter!

Hopefully two easy, heavy wins are _good_, and not bad, going into a key match with Wright State Friday.

We _may_ have already clinched an HL tournament berth. I'm not 100% sure of the tiebreakers, and it looks a little complicated. But, much better to take out Wright State, who's already clinched the #1 seed.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: bbtds on November 01, 2016, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: vusupporter on October 31, 2016, 11:33:42 PM
This seems good: 3 goals in 81 seconds.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/msoccer/news/2016-17/15869/anderson-provides-fastest-hat-trick-in-ncaa-history-in-victory-over-iupui/

If you didn't notice through the web page address the 3 goals in 81 seconds is an NCAA record. It will be interesting to see how long that NCAA record lasts.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on November 01, 2016, 07:15:19 PM
Fastest in the Premier League is 2m56s. Fastest in the UEFA Champions League is 7 minutes. Less than 5 minutes in the MLS.

I bet the record stands for a good long while.

The fastest in the NCAA from the beginning of the game seems to be 9m2s, set earlier this year (3m20s between the first and third isn't too shabby either).

I'd not heard that the record Kendan broke, 2m15s in 1985, was set against UIC.
Title: Re: MSO 2016
Post by: agibson on January 23, 2017, 11:32:18 AM
UIC's goalie was the top Horizon League pick in the MLS draft. 3rd round, #48 overall.

http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/three-horizon-league-players-selected-in-mls-superdraft

He was HL goalie of the year this season, and probably the other season Nico didn't get it (I think Nico got it twice).

One Wright State player was picked up in each of the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Nico's been on trial down in Tampa Bay, where Valpo striker turned center back Stefan Antonijevic plays. I saw that he played a half against Bundesliga side Wolfburg (on their winter break) and didn't allow any goals. Apparently he similarly played the second half against a Brazilian side, and did allow a goal off a free kick.

http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/745838?referrer_id=2333971