Valpo is showing interest ina 2020 Shooting Guard from Chicago named Josh Holmes.
https://twitter.com/teamyandr/status/923626847975477248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hGkTRMJlSs
https://twitter.com/DerranceL/status/886390538915778562
Tre Coleman
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: SG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 175
Hometown: Jeffersonville, IN
High School: Jeffersonville High School
Rank: NA
Offers: New Orleans
Interest: Miami Oh, Evansville, IUPUI and Valpo (as of July)
https://www.hudl.com/profile/5186008/tre-coleman/videos
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/preps/indiana/2017/07/24/jeffersonvilles-tre-coleman-nabs-scholarship-offer-brother-jaden-gets-looks/483272001/
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/calumet-s-davion-davis-has-grown-up-on-the-basketball/article_623fbada-d37f-5c76-a012-2ba39c69c64d.html
If you can get past his HS coach's baloney comments taking credit for everything I did for this kid it's a decent article. He can flat out score the ball, has incredible range, great character and gets it done academically. He also loves the university, and I'm hoping he will grow another couple of inches (he's 5'10'' currently) and maybe catch their eye.
Quote from: M on March 08, 2018, 11:01:57 AM
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/calumet-s-davion-davis-has-grown-up-on-the-basketball/article_623fbada-d37f-5c76-a012-2ba39c69c64d.html
If you can get past his HS coach's baloney comments taking credit for everything I did for this kid it's a decent article. He can flat out score the ball, has incredible range, great character and gets it done academically. He also loves the university, and I'm hoping he will grow another couple of inches (he's 5'10'' currently) and maybe catch their eye.
Pretty cool to hear his connection to the University and the program. I'm all for adding as many talented Region guys as possible. He sounds like a talented young high school player. I'm sure he's on the Coaching Staffs radar.
It amazes me as to all the non-stop effort needed to recruit for a D1 basketball team. 2020 sounds like a long way off but obviously it come quickly. As Homer Drew used to say, "recruiting is like shaving. Miss a day and you look like a bum" ;D
Quote from: vu72 on March 08, 2018, 12:31:31 PM
"recruiting is like shaving. Miss a day and you look like a bum" ;D
Love that quote and it's so true.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10358544/5aa7d9a190eed10c145a2b81
Ignore the spelling error on the title screen. #4
Quote from: M on March 13, 2018, 10:47:36 AM
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10358544/5aa7d9a190eed10c145a2b81
Ignore the spelling error on the title screen. #4
He looks like a nice player but it's going to be tough to get over that size. I hope he grows a little more because that will allow him to get more looks from D1 coaches. At 5-9 or 5-10 you need to have elite level athleticism (ex: Daniel Sackey, Marlain Veal at SELA, Kay Felder Oakland) to succeed at this level or you need to be true point guard with some insane court vision, passing and handles.
He still has plenty of time to grow and get better. We'll see what happens.
LOL, we've been trying to stretch him out for a few years :) He wears size 13 shoes and has huge hands so the rest of him has to catch up at some point! At least I hope.
Loyola is going to have their hands full with a 5'7'' pg in the next couple of days.
A recruit indicated that Valpo is showing interest.
https://twitter.com/shon12_/status/978476576831664128
Shon Robinson
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 170
Hometown: Chicago, IL
High School: Higley High School
Ranks: 3 star (Scout)
Highlights: http://www.hudl.com/profile/10349006/Shon-Robinson/videos
https://twitter.com/TheMacIrvinFire/status/986684459402645505
https://twitter.com/chilandprephoop/status/986706810303369217
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 5-10
Weight: 0
Hometown: Chicago, IL
High School: Morgan Park High School
Rank: NA
Offers: Valparaiso, Chicago State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_vnAXI-Htg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFKQWw_4Sxs
https://twitter.com/PrepHoopsIL/status/985045490327699456
"Morgan Park 2020 point guard Marcus Watson had an outstanding showing at the state tournament helping lead his team to another state title. He is an angular guard that plays bigger than his height especially defensively because of his length. Gets into his man and doesn't let him get comfortable. Watson is so smooth with the rock weaving in and out of defenders and scoring at the cup with acrobatic layups. Lot of transition scores. D1 prospect that needs to get more looks at the mid-major level during the live periods."
https://twitter.com/michaelsobrien/status/974752110251257856
Morgan Park beats Marian Catholic, eyes Class 3A repeat
Michael O'Brien
mobrien@suntimes.com | @michaelsobrien
March 16 3:56 p.m.
"PEORIA—Morgan Park is loaded with Division I bound, superstar players. Seniors Ayo Dosunmu, Cam Burrell and Kenyon Duling are among the best players in the state and sophomore Adam Miller is one of the top players in the country in his class.
But for the second consecutive game in Peoria, it was unheralded guard Marcus Watson that may have been the key to victory. He's the glue that helps mold all the superstars together into a team and not just a collection of talent.
"When we started the state playoffs I said to let Marcus orchestrate," Morgan Park coach Nick Irvin said. "He's been doing a phenomenal job."
Watson finished with six assists and three steals in Morgan Park's 68-51 win over Marian Catholic in the Class 3A state semifinals at Carver Arena on Friday.
Last season Watson stepped in, as a freshman, and played 14 key minutes in the title game victory against Fenwick. Dosunmu was injured and missed the game, but Watson contributed six points and four assists in a key 14 minutes of play.
Watson's six assists were more than the Spartans finished with as a team (5). He also handled the ball like a seasoned veteran, committing just two turnovers.
...."
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/945061911112110080
"Morgan Park 2020 Marcus Watson is a 5'10" lefty point guard that is quick and shifty with the ball. Gets penetration in the paint finding teammates in the drive and kick or with quick dishes inside. Sound passer that is improving as a decision maker showing more true point guard skills. Has some scoring pop as well with his ability to get to the rim and foul line.
Watson stepped up last March with Ayo Dosunmu was injured and played a big role in their state title. How much has that given him confidence this season?
"It has given me a lot of confidence winning state last season my first year. It has given me a lot of motivation to help my team win another one."
He spoke about July with the Mac Irvin Fire 15U.
"I think we played good. We lost to Meanstreets in the final four. Me, Adam Miller, and Nimari in the back court is scary."
What are the strengths of his game?
"Attacking the basket, shooting threes, and I love defense."
Only one college is in the mix early in the process.
"I have an offer from Chicago State.""
I'm more interested in #10, that dude hit a bunch of 3's in that first video.
https://twitter.com/marcus3xx/status/986699584104730624
Quote from: VU2014 on April 18, 2018, 03:46:17 PM
https://twitter.com/marcus3xx/status/986699584104730624
Think coaches are saying another year without a vocal floor general simply won't be accepted. Can't blame them.
Though it seems most coaches/programs aren't offering 4-year guaranteed scholarships at a high rate even though it became an option around 2011. So taking an early recruit/offer approach (should he not pan out) isn't as hurtful.
We can always withdraw from consideration or give him a year to prove himself @ VU. Though I don't think we offer a sophomore without some pretty high upside.
Roy is a recruiting insider
Roy Schmidt. He has his own recruiting service that is based on recruiting for the Illinois prep scene. If you have a twitter account I'd recommend giving him a follow: @prepbullseye
I'm told this kid is going to be getting a lot more offers over the next year and a half if he keeps progressing. Could be good to be in early.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 18, 2018, 07:29:22 PM
Though it seems most coaches/programs aren't offering 4-year guaranteed scholarships at a high rate even though it became an option around 2011. So taking an early recruit/offer approach (should he not pan out) isn't as hurtful.
We can always withdraw from consideration or give him a year to prove himself @ VU. Though I don't think we offer a sophomore without some pretty high upside.
Even if he committed to us right away it would basically mean nothing because kids decommit all the time. He's only a sophomore. The only other sophomore I can think of that we've offered in recent history was Alex Hemenway who seemed like more of a "moonshot" offer at the time then this offer. It sounds like Watson is more of a under the radar recruit as of right now be he still has 2 HS seasons and 2 AAU season to improve his game and gain more interest which he no doubt will.
If Valpo offers a recruit and he signs his letter of intent that pretty much means we're not going to tell a kid he's not good enough to be on the team and force him to go elsewhere. Although there was that rumor that Bryce/Roger were trying to convince Nick Davidson to transfer because they didn't think he was good enough and AP got pissed and put the kibosh on it. That was just a rumor, but maybe others have more info then me on that. Correct me if I'm wrong but schools technically could "cut" players whenever they want in the offseason but it is very rare at the mid-major level, but at the high-major level it's more common.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 18, 2018, 07:29:22 PM
Think coaches are saying another year without a vocal floor general simply won't be accepted. Can't blame them.
Daniel Sackey might be the next vocal leader of the team in a few years. The lack of on-court vocal leadership was a issue last season. It will be interesting to see if one of those Juniors steps up next season. We need a few of them to take the reigns.
vu2014 I believe your rumor was accurate as i've heard it a few times to from relatively reliable people.
As far as a vocal leader I'd hope that Bakari or Golder step up as both have the energy and vocal ability, they just need to control their emotions and direct it away from the refs
Keep the Canadian pipeline going! ;D
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/29e73751e755283185623beb2cd05384/tenor.gif?itemid=7273694)
https://twitter.com/Canada_Elite/status/991747045273800705
Luka Sakota
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-6
Weight: NA
Hometown: Etobicoke, Canada
High School: King's Christian Collegiate
Rank: NA
Offers: Northeastern, Tulane, Denver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOURyhgjJQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_IXrBcuk44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csrEh9v-JIs
Luka played in the Canadian Biosteel game with Daniel Sackey.
https://twitter.com/Canada_Elite/status/983183236128948233
https://twitter.com/Canada_Elite/status/991748068549816322
Coleman Stucke
StatusUndecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: SF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 208
Hometown: Burlington, Canada
High School: King's Christian Collegiate
Rank: NA
Offers: Tulane, Denver, High Point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCxUfwksGSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJPdoXtskZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL6cn8D4o34
Iowa Creighton and even more like programs are interested in these two? I can't say that leaves me overly optimistic about our chances. Hopefully they respect Sackey's opinion and he gives Valpo a ringing endorsement. That would seem like our only chance to beat out these bigger schools.
1314, I don't follow your post. What are the connections?
I'm presuming rightly or wrongly that Sackey has competed with these guys and has some sort of connection with them because of that sort of like being part of the same fraternity that of the athlete. I am saying that Valpo will have a tough time beating out the likes of Creighton Iowa Virginia Tech Stanford et Al unless Sackey having already committed to Valpo gets in their ear and gives a strong endorsement and the other players then act on that endorsement. Sort of like how Dwyane Wade helped recruit LeBron James and Chris Bosh to Miami back in 2010.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 02, 2018, 08:39:58 PM
I'm presuming rightly or wrongly that Sackey has competed with these guys and has some sort of connection with them because of that sort of like being part of the same fraternity that of the athlete. I am saying that Valpo will have a tough time beating out the likes of Creighton Iowa Virginia Tech Stanford et Al unless Sackey having already committed to Valpo gets in their ear and gives a strong endorsement and the other players then act on that endorsement. Sort of like how Dwyane Wade helped recruit LeBron James and Chris Bosh to Miami back in 2010.
I followed your logic prior
Ok, understand. Another parallel is how AAU players recruit each other at times. The Alec/Jubril class was like that.
Also, not just kids but the parents matter too. I know that Walker's family loved how supportive Valpo was and that can factor in as well if they can say that the school treated their kid well.
That's one thing I hope this program never loses: that family ethos. It's another reason why I love that we're in the MVC the conference itself operates like a family. That's one advantage we may have over these bigger schools: for all their money and resources do they still know how to make a recruit feel wanted needed valued and respected?
I know Valpo hasn't really done this in the past, but I wonder with all the scholarships that will be open for the 2020 class if Valpo will offer more kids earlier then they typically would.
Quote from: M on May 03, 2018, 12:12:24 PM
I know Valpo hasn't really done this in the past, but I wonder with all the scholarships that will be open for the 2020 class if Valpo will offer more kids earlier then they typically would.
We may be headed that direction of offering kids earlier in their HS careers then the Drew family did. Valpo offered Alex Hemenway before his Junior year and same with Marcus Watson, Jr. recently.
Just looked it up and North Pole Hoops ranks: Coleman Stucke #7 in class of 2020 Canada and Luka Sakota #14 in class of 2020. Stucke looked like a stud if you watched highlights. Caution they were just highlights but you could see the tools and that sweet shooting stroke with that type of size and length.
For whatever it's worth:
-Daniel Sackey was ranked #16 in the class of 2018
-Tevonn Walker was ranked #15 in the class of 2014
Rankings projecting this far out don't mean a lot to me because they can change so much but it would appear that we have a shot at Sakota. I'd think we should consider offering early here especially with Stucke.
https://twitter.com/teamyandr/status/1001922148506710017
Keshawn Williams
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 160
Hometown: Chicago Heights, IL
High School: Bloom High School
Offers: UIC, Hampton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_wbVb1Doc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyGrTgDO-5w
This is the graduation class where our vision must be clear.
This reminds me of the University of Maryland Optometry School student who is graduating in 2020. She said you wouldn't believe how many that go to the UM Optometry School are the son/daughter of an optometrist and there is huge pressure for that class to really stand out on the charts of graduating classes. Not just the top of the class but the not-so-accomplished students at the bottom of the chart who don't stand out as much.
New 2020 offer: Phillip Russell 5'10" PG from St. Louis to go with the offer to Marcus Watson, another 5'10" PG.
Quote from: valpopal on June 14, 2018, 10:52:13 PM
New 2020 offer: Phillip Russell 5'10" PG from St. Louis to go with the offer to Marcus Watson, another 5'10" PG.
https://twitter.com/phill_x2/status/1007364302389633025
http://verbalcommits.com/players/phillip-russell
Phillip Russell
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 5-10
Weight: 140
Hometown: St Louis, MO
High School: Vashon High School
Rank: NA
Offers: Valpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjOjHfSXQpA&t=5s
So is he 5'10" or 6'3"???
Quote from: M on June 15, 2018, 08:41:50 AM
So is he 5'10" or 6'3"???
It looks like he's grown since his verbal commits profile was created. The general rule of thumb is to subtract an inch or two from whatever the athlete lists his height at.
Quote from: M on June 15, 2018, 08:41:50 AM
So is he 5'10" or 6'3"???
Apparently, the clip posted is "fake news"! Valpo offered the 5'10" Russell. The 6'3" Russell is from Florida.
Haha my bad. Wrong Phillip Russell.
https://twitter.com/phill_x2/status/1000056996303781889
https://twitter.com/phill_x2/status/914578828181348352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjOjHfSXQpA&t=5s
He's #1 in this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IejYhN5gPIQ
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.
The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.
Quote from: vu72 on June 15, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.
The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.
Mike Nelke 2000-2002. Home town - St. Louis. Transferred after 2 years to SE Missouri State.
http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/nelke_mike00.html
Quote from: wh on June 15, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 15, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.
The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.
Mike Nelke 2000-2002. Home town - St. Louis. Transferred after 2 years to SE Missouri State.
http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/nelke_mike00.html
Mike Nelke is a high school coach in suburban StLouis. Following is a short interview with Mike, in which he speaks in glowing terms about his sophomore year at Valpo:
https://ritenourlive.org/3791/krhs/rhs-sports-weekly-meet-the-new-varsity-basketball-coach/
I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.
Quote from: IrishDawg on June 15, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.
Was this a change in recruiting rules?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 15, 2018, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on June 15, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.
Was this a change in recruiting rules?
Fairly recently (changed in 2012). Old rule was you could only call or text a recruit once a month between June 15th after their Sophomore year through July 31 after their Junior year.
Nelke was a player that got some good run as a FR and SO. I was surprised when he transferred.
Quote from: wh on June 15, 2018, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: wh on June 15, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 15, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.
The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.
Mike Nelke 2000-2002. Home town - St. Louis. Transferred after 2 years to SE Missouri State.
http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/nelke_mike00.html
Mike Nelke is a high school coach in suburban StLouis. Following is a short interview with Mike, in which he speaks in glowing terms about his sophomore year at Valpo:
https://ritenourlive.org/3791/krhs/rhs-sports-weekly-meet-the-new-varsity-basketball-coach/
Interesting. My uncle was the girls golf coach at that school. But he retired I'm sure before Mike got there.
Javon Freeman-Liberty's high school teammate is visiting campus on Wednesday. Tyler Beard is widely considered one of the top players from the Illinois 2020 class. He's getting high major interest. He's also going to be visiting UIC & Butler this week. His recruitment has started to pick the last few weeks.
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1008753015346683904
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/1008752964264026112
Tyler Beard
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-0
Weight: NA
Hometown: Chicago, IL
High School: Whitney M. Young Magnet High School
Rank:
-Rivals: 4 star
Offers: UIC, Florida Atlantic, DePaul, Iowa
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/tyler-beard
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/1005566765907218433
Ten prospects who are unranked but rising after spring session
Eric Bossi, Corey Evans and Dan McDonald
Rivals.com
.....
Tyler Beard:
Why he's on the rise: He has shown tremendous progressions on the ball as a capable playmaker that can create for others and himself. The definition of a competitor, Beard brings a blue-collared work ethic to the court along with a two-way approach that has him on the cusp of a national ranking in a few weeks. Known for his mid-range scoring, Beard can now facilitate a half-court offense, defend both guard spots, and finish in traffic.
Who is involved? DePaul and Iowa remain the lone power program offers.
.....
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/ten-prospects-who-are-unranked-but-rising-after-spring-session
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/1005892104403464192
https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/1005582351508869120
https://twitter.com/NorthernXPreps/status/1006952565785944065
Nike Elite 100: Takeaways from day three
By: EVAN DANIELS AND BRIAN SNOW
Jun 10, 7:53 AM
.....
Tyler Beard raises stock
An underclassmen camp like the Nike Elite 100 gives lesser known players an opportunity to raise their stock against some of the top players in their class.
Although Beard, a 6-foot guard out of Chicago (Ill.) Whitney Young, had already built a reputation, his performance during the first three days of Elite 100 moved the needle. Beard impressed with his decision, consistently making the right play, which is even more notable during a camp setting. Beard showed a nice blend of facilitating and scoring, while also competing and disrupting things on the defensive end.
At this point, Beard has offered from a pair of high major schools – DePaul and Iowa – but if this weekend's performance was any indication that list is sure to grow in the near future.
..... https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Nike-Elite-100-Takeaways-from-day-three-118930539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVZeWArKzfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noSahdJzijI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5BMqLvMptU
Remains to be seen, but can this staff successfully recruit anyone over 6'6"?
Fazekas, ok maybe because he was recruited before he went out of region is the case I present. So pre Lottich.
Sorolla, I still consider a Drew recruit who possibly followed Jackie Emanuel who is no longer at VU.
I'm sure to be countered here, welcome input.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 18, 2018, 05:36:03 PM
Remains to be seen, but can this staff successfully recruit anyone over 6'6"?
Fazekas, ok maybe because he was recruited before he went out of region is the case I present. So pre Lottich.
Sorolla, I still consider a Drew recruit who possibly followed Jackie Emanuel who is no longer at VU.
I'm sure to be countered here, welcome input.
Mileek is a huge project unless unfathomed improvement happens before junior year.
Hazen bye bye
I think you'll see some great improvement from Mileek if the reports on how his offseason training is going are true.
Quote from: IrishDawg on June 15, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 15, 2018, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on June 15, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.
Was this a change in recruiting rules?
Fairly recently (changed in 2012). Old rule was you could only call or text a recruit once a month between June 15th after their Sophomore year through July 31 after their Junior year.
Ask Kelvin Sampson and Eron's brother Eric Gordon about that rule when Eric had committed to Illinois.
Ha! Ask Scott Drew about that rule.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 18, 2018, 05:36:03 PM
Remains to be seen, but can this staff successfully recruit anyone over 6'6"?
Fazekas, ok maybe because he was recruited before he went out of region is the case I present. So pre Lottich.
Sorolla, I still consider a Drew recruit who possibly followed Jackie Emanuel who is no longer at VU.
I'm sure to be countered here, welcome input.
We've no doubt struck out of some 6'6" and up guys this offseason: Mike Davis and Braun Hartfield
But we have had some 6'6" and up guys like Markus Golder (a great find), Mileek McMillan (a project) and they did land Joe Burton (obviously didn't work out). Fazekas is 6'8".
https://twitter.com/HoopsIntensity/status/1010676371725737984
https://twitter.com/WolvesILL/status/1010617183800569856
The staff has been recruiting Holmes for a while now. I remember hearing they were showing interest since Fall 2017.
https://twitter.com/real_hoops_dad/status/1011269665912446976
https://twitter.com/real_hoops_dad/status/1010975432576036868
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 18, 2018, 05:54:22 PMMileek is a huge project unless unfathomed improvement happens before junior year.
Who started this whole thing about Mileek being a "project"?? A project is a kid who comes in tripping over his own two feet and that is not Mileek. Mileek is a guard who grew 8 inches played the 5 as a senior and now has a 7'3" wing span. I will admit that he had some defensive issues this past season, but also at times showed explosive skill offensively. The staff is Very, Very high on Mileek
Quote from: FWalum on June 26, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 18, 2018, 05:54:22 PMMileek is a huge project unless unfathomed improvement happens before junior year.
Who started this whole thing about Mileek being a "project"?? A project is a kid who comes in tripping over his own two feet and that is not Mileek. Mileek is a guard who grew 8 inches played the 5 as a senior and now has a 7'3" wing span. I will admit that he had some defensive issues this past season, but also at times showed explosive skill offensively. The staff is Very, Very high on Mileek
I'm very high on Mileek's future as well but at least his freshman season could be defined as a "project" or a "work in progress". He was arguably the most raw guy on the team last season, other than Parker (who didn't look ready for D1 basketball at all). He looked very green at times (which is to be expected) but would also show flashes of impact potential in games like the Loyola game on the road. Apparently he was still growing in terms of height as recently as last summer. I love his potential.
We will need Mileek to take another step in his development by the time next season starts, specifically on the defensive end. If he could limit the foul trouble and be available and trusted more later in games it could have a be a big boost. Apparently he's packed on ton of muscle this offseason. I'm closely going to be watching his progression next season. I'll also be watching Micah Bradford. He seems to be getting quite a bit of hype in the offseason open gyms. I just can't get myself to buy into his stock till I see him on the court against live competition though. Hopefully the hype is real.
It's Micah's last chance. If he doesn't produce this year he'll have a tough time seeing the floor next year if he's still here. I just hope they have a good sense to put him on ball and play Evelyn on ball. That worked so well I don't know why they went away from it at times throughout the year.
Saw on Twitter that Valpo expressed interest in Deontae Craig of Culver Academy. Sophomore starter on the 3A state champs, but don't know much else. Maybe 2014 can do some research.
Quote from: EddieCabot on June 27, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
Saw on Twitter that Valpo expressed interest in Deontae Craig of Culver Academy. Sophomore starter on the 3A state champs, but don't know much else. Maybe 2014 can do some research.
I got you ;)
He's a two sport athlete in Football and Basketball. He's been on Purdue and Notre Dame's radars for football. He's already taken unofficial visits to both schools. He's a Fort Wayne native. I couldn't find much info if on his recruitment. No offers yet, but his high school teammate is considered one of the top 100 recruit in his class. Deontae sounds like a really strong kid.
Deontae Craig
6'4"225 lbs Sophomore
Graduates in 2020
Position: SF, PF
http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/deontae-craig/6xfp3VmVEea-8KA2nzwbTA/default.htm
https://twitter.com/MattGlenesk/status/1011698861008654341
IndyStar basketball recruiting rankings for Indiana's 2020 classKyle Neddenriep
Indianapolis Star
June 26, 2018........
15. Deontae Craig, Culver Academy: The 6-4 Craig was a key part of Culver Academy's Class 3A state championship team as a sophomore, averaging 13.6 points and a team-leading 7.3 rebounds per game. Craig was Junior All-State in football so his future might be there.
Culver Academy's Deontae Craig Impresses on All FieldsMarch 1, 2018
Dalton Tinklenberg...
"Currently I have no offers but I've been on a couple visits to Notre Dame and one to Purdue for football and I have a little bit of interest from Northern Kentucky for basketball," said Craig.
...
"Relentless," said Culver Academy head coach Mark Galloway. "He's a relentless rebounder, he's a relentless defender and he's relentless in how he plays the game. I think when you have a guy like that it's nice to have him on your team every night. I think he's expanding his game and he's adding more versatility. Probably last year as a freshman it was more back to the basket. Now he's facing up, putting the ball on the floor and we're playing him on the wing more."
.... http://bluehqmedia.com/culver-academys-deontae-craig-impresses-fields/
https://twitter.com/CMABasketball/status/996463438422528002
https://twitter.com/CMABasketball/status/995030291268952065
https://twitter.com/INBBallSource/status/993162456276094977
https://twitter.com/BbalEvv/status/977695850595061760
https://twitter.com/BbalEvv/status/977663991555264512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvG75W1lLz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rURgj9XoK-4
https://twitter.com/okonscoutnews/status/1012409094731333632
Dante Maddox, Jr.
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 180
Hometown: Chicago Heights, IL
High School: Bloom High School
AAU: Mac Irvin Fire
Offers: SIU
Rank: NA
He was getting recruited by UWM while Coach Townsend was still there.
Hudl Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/8746341/5a36148f19b0390d54e91b0a
https://twitter.com/CoachTy_Johnson/status/966877809653272576
https://twitter.com/CoachTy_Johnson/status/848741327013543936
https://twitter.com/okonscoutnews/status/942467886613958662
https://twitter.com/SouthtownSports/status/941878305434763264
Dante's inferno: Maddox Jr. heats up for 34 points as Bloom's comeback stuns H-F
Tony Baranek
Daily Southtown
December 15, 2017
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/sports/ct-sta-boys-basketball-homewood-flossmoor-bloom-st-1217-20171215-story.html
Recruiting Report: Dante Maddox (2020)
By Scott Burgess
Posted On: 11/20/17 12:00 PM
Dante Maddox is a 6'2" 2020 shooting guard from Bloom that is an athletic and can score the basketball. His athleticism shows through in the transition game where he gets out as a finisher with big dunks. He is a quality scorer in the half court as well with range on his shot out to beyond the three point arc. Clean looking stroke. At times he takes some forced shots from deep. D1 talent in the 2020 class.
He broke down July running with a stacked All-In 15U squad.
"It actually went really well for me personally. I had a good last couple of tournaments when we went to Summer Jam and Las Vegas. I had a couple good games."
What are the best parts of his game?
"My strengths are shooting. I shoot the ball really good consistently. Now over the last couple months I have got more athletic and have been able to get more going to the hole and finishing."
At Bloom he is surrounded with a trio of other highly rated sophomores. College coaches are taking notice.
"We have a lot of young talent. In my opinion we have the three best guards in the state in 2020. We have a lot of good coaches that have come through to watch us. Illinois, Montana, SIUE, and Chicago State. A lot of D1 schools."
What schools have expressed early interest in him?
"Kent State, SIU, Wisconsin Milwaukee, Yale, and a couple more."
https://www.prephoops.com/2017/11/recruiting-report-dante-maddox-2020/
Bloom's super sophs knock off Kankakee
Michael O'Brien
mobrien@suntimes.com | @michaelsobrien
Feb. 23
https://www.suntimeshighschoolsports.com/2018/02/23/bloom-kankakee-basketball/
Henricksen: Pangos provides look at next wave of talent
Joe Henricksen
For Sun-Times Media | @joehoopsreport
Oct. 24, 2017 5:14 p.m.
....
"...Maddox, Jr. showed a versatile floor game and Mitchell's improvement continues and ceiling rises, it was Williams who really opened eyes at the Pangos Camp. The 6-2 combo guard is a solid athlete and such a threat offensively off the dribble."
... https://www.suntimeshighschoolsports.com/2017/10/24/henricksen-pangos-provides-look-next-talent-wave/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnXvClIdMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaK7PjSbsGA
Dante Maddox looks like he would be one of the less athletic guards we could recruit. But that's not everything. Can that lack of a vertical or quick step make a mark in the MVC?
Alex wasn't an athlete of note, so if Maddox has a work ethic and is savvy might be a solid get.
But a top tier athlete he is not and doesn't appear he will become.
https://twitter.com/okonscoutnews/status/1012408976011681792
Martice Mitchell
Bloom High School
Chicago Heights, IL
6'9"170 lbs Sophomore
Graduates in 2020
Position: PF
http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/martice-mitchell/Qvdxgs-oEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/default.htm
Recruiting Report: Martice Mitchell (2020)
By Scott Burgess
Posted On: 08/25/17
At 6'8" Bloom 2020 center Martice Mitchell is a long and thin post has great height, but will need to pack on strength over the next few years. The 2020 post moves extremely well for his height as he runs the floor with ease and moves around well on the interior of the defense. Mobile around the hoop and can finish alley-oops. He shows that he can knock down a mid-range jumper with confidence on occasion. The skilled post also is a nice interior passer. Very intriguing prospect in 2020.
How did he feel it went with All-In Athletics this spring and summer?
"I played my best. I played better than I did than I last year. I am putting more effort and getting better every game."
He chatted with us about his game.
"I can do a lot of different things. I can shoot. I can dribble when I need too. I box out and rebound."
Mitchell was one of a select number of prospects from Illinois that participated in the Crossroads Camp for top young high school prospects during the summer.
"It was good playing against guys like Jalen Johnson and some of the other top prospects at that camp. I learned self-discipline and rewarding myself when I do good."
He spoke about his freshman year at Bloom.
"That was good. I played sophomores at the beginning of the season and moved up to varsity at the end. We played real good and will have a good team this season."
Mitchell has visited a pair of in-state programs already in SIU and Western Illinois. What stood out about the Salukis?
"I liked SIU. I liked the gym. It is a good program. I liked the coaches and the players that are there."
He also enjoyed his trip to WIU.
"We weren't really able to see the gym at Western because they were remodeling it. I liked it a lot there. The school is not too big or not too small."
https://www.prephoops.com/2017/08/recruiting-report-martice-mitchell-2020/
2017 CrossRoads Elite Invitational Camp Recap
Emerging young talent from the Class of 2020 and 2021 converged in Indy.
BY RODGER BOHN
JUNE 14, 2017
....
Martice Mitchell, 6-8, PF, Bloom Township (IL), 2020
Despite playing right outside of the CHI, not too many people are aware of the special talent that resides in Bloom Township. The wiry forward showed off a diverse package of skills, creating mismatches and shooting the lights out with his Steph Curry release from the chin. It shouldn't be long before D1 programs are aware of the long term potential that Martice possesses.
... https://www.slamonline.com/college-hs/high-school/crossroads-elite-invitational-camp-recap/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg4a1OAypJk
Quote from: VU2014 on June 27, 2018, 09:10:20 PM
He's a two sport athlete in Football and Basketball. He's been on Purdue and Notre Dame's radars for football. He's already taken unofficial visits to both schools. He's a Fort Wayne native. I couldn't find much info if on his recruitment. No offers yet, but his high school teammate is considered one of the top 100 recruit in his class. Deontae sounds like a really strong kid.
Deontae Craig
6'4"225 lbs Sophomore
Graduates in 2020
Position: SF, PF
I saw Culver play several times this year. Deontae improved and expanded his game throughout the year. He's definitely an undersized 4 at this point, but still has two years to develop his game if he makes basketball a priority.
They were 16-1 over their last 17 games, only losing at LaLamiere. They return almost everyone, so should be the 3A favorite next year (and maybe the following as well).
They also have a rising senior point guard, Ethan Brittain-Watts, who has D-I offers. To my knowledge, Valpo hasn't shown interest in him.
Valpo isn't shown in his list of teams interested in him. Interesting. I know the Valpo coaches have shown some interest in the past. He was at the Valpo Elite Camp a few weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/teamyandr/status/1013801961836204032
Quote from: VU2014 on July 02, 2018, 01:17:07 PM
Valpo isn't shown in his list of teams interested in him. Interesting. I know the Valpo coaches have shown some interest in the past. He was at the Valpo Elite Camp a few weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/teamyandr/status/1013801961836204032
Are 6'1" SG in demand?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on July 02, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 02, 2018, 01:17:07 PM
Valpo isn't shown in his list of teams interested in him. Interesting. I know the Valpo coaches have shown some interest in the past. He was at the Valpo Elite Camp a few weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/teamyandr/status/1013801961836204032
Are 6'1" SG in demand?
6-1 SGs are everywhere in D-1. Pick 10 rosters at random and start counting every 6-3 SG you see.
They're also a dime a dozen.
I wouldn't put Tevonn Walker in the "dime-a-dozen" category. Point is that average 6-1 to 6-2 SG's are dime-a-dozen, as you say, but good one's aren't. I would never shy away from kicking the tires simply because the size is common.
Quote from: 4throwfan on July 02, 2018, 09:37:34 PM
I wouldn't put Tevonn Walker in the "dime-a-dozen" category. Point is that average 6-1 to 6-2 SG's are dime-a-dozen, as you say, but good one's aren't. I would never shy away from kicking the tires simply because the size is common.
We are hungry enough that I'd agree. But that's for coach to figure. In the meantime my excitement-o-meter has not registered any current with this player...
I agree with you that a player shouldn't be disregarded just because of his height. Heck, the kid I like in this class is only 5'10-5'11" currently (though his hands and feet say he should be a lot bigger).
Quote from: M on July 03, 2018, 08:27:15 AM
I agree with you that a player shouldn't be disregarded just racist of his height. Heck, the kid I like in this class is only 5'100-5'11" currently (though his hands and feet say he should be a lot bigger).
Racist?? ???
Quote from: M on March 08, 2018, 11:01:57 AMcomments taking credit for everything I did for this kid it's a decent article. He can flat out score the ball, has incredible range, great character and gets it done academically. He also loves the university, and I'm hoping he will grow another couple of inches (he's 5'10'' currently) and maybe catch their eye.
I also really home that he can made it through- he is really talented
We've heard the coaches are recruiting a lot of backcourt players, but we haven't heard many Bigs getting recruited yet. Both Derrik and Jay will be Juniors next season, which is great for the next 2 years but after they graduate we'll be leaning on some very young bigs if they don't come via Transfer or as a member of the 2018 or 2019 class. Centers on the transfer market these days are coveted, so there will be stiff competition for almost any decent transfer big. But knowing the Valpo coaching staff they could be recruiting a foreign big that nobody knows about.
I just don't want us to lean on a true freshman Center when this big crop of Juniors graduates. The Coaching Staff is really going to need to hit on this 2020 recruiting class.
Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2018, 10:36:33 AM
We've heard the coaches are recruiting a lot of backcourt players, but we haven't heard many Bigs getting recruited yet. Both Derrik and Jay will be Juniors next season, which is great for the next 2 years but after they graduate we'll be leaning on some very young bigs if they don't come via Transfer or as a member of the 2018 or 2019 class. Centers on the transfer market these days are coveted, so there will be stiff competition for almost any decent transfer big. But knowing the Valpo coaching staff they could be recruiting a foreign big that nobody knows about.
I just don't want us to lean on a true freshman Center when this big crop of Juniors graduates. The Coaching Staff is really going to need to hit on this 2020 recruiting class.
Here's to hoping your right, because I'm a bit concerned about the over abundance of "G" on the verbal commits website for VU recruiting. I mentioned this earlier as a concern and glad I'm not the only one in that regard.
Lol...should've been because...not sure what I typed for it to auto to racist!
It's a subscriber only link but the tweet indicates Valpo is involve in his recruitment. He took a unofficial visit a few weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/PrepHoopsIL/status/1017193355409797120
I doubt we're in on the recruits mentioned but maybe the coaches are scouting their less highly touted teammates. It seems like every D1 coach is at the Under Armour Challenge.
https://twitter.com/JakePerper/status/1017778055924846592
Quote from: VU2014 on July 13, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
I doubt we're in on the recruits mentioned but maybe the coaches are scouting their less highly touted teammates. It seems like every D1 coach is at the Under Armour Challenge.
https://twitter.com/JakePerper/status/1017778055924846592
Peach Jam (Nike) is going on this week too, so most coaches are splitting their time between the two tournaments since one is going on in South Carolina and the other in Georgia.
Quote from: IrishDawg on July 13, 2018, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 13, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
I doubt we're in on the recruits mentioned but maybe the coaches are scouting their less highly touted teammates. It seems like every D1 coach is at the Under Armour Challenge.
https://twitter.com/JakePerper/status/1017778055924846592
Peach Jam (Nike) is going on this week too, so most coaches are splitting their time between the two tournaments since one is going on in South Carolina and the other in Georgia.
The coaches may have been scouting Thomas Welch on the Illinois Wolves AAU program. He's a 2019 PF from Naperville, IL and a rising player in the State of Illinois.
The Coaches are also recruiting Seryee Lewis a PF that just happens to attend Kenwood Academy where Nick Robinson played his High School ball. It might help in the recruitment that Nick is a member of the program.
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1021450266024038400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4lrV8Nsqck
Storylines, notes from NY2LA's Summer Jam bonanza
Joe Henricksen
For Sun-Times Media | @joehoopsreport
July 23
...
◆ Young's Tyler Beard continues to take his game to new levels. Beard has quickness, speed and athleticism that he uses as a relentless finisher at the basket and defensively. An underrated passer, the 6-2 guard is playing with more poise and polish as well. He will be a high-major recruit.
... https://www.suntimeshighschoolsports.com/2018/07/23/storylines-notes-ny2las-summer-jam-bonanza/
Honestly surprised that Beard was even asked about Butler or Valpo. So many of those guys have a one school or one conference focus and they tend to avoid the smaller teams entirely. Definitely think he's more enamored with UCLA and Villanova though just by watching his face, and if he's willing to pay to go visit UCLA, that says a lot too.
https://twitter.com/slealindiana/status/1022536388632170497
http://indianaelite.com/team/6045
Roster:
-Noah Jager http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/noah-jager/6fKY_6dhEeaAdqA2nzwY6g/default.htm
-Mabor Majak (rank: 3 star scout) http://verbalcommits.com/players/mabor-majak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6jz671wuvo
-D'Andre Davis II http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/d-andre-davis
D'Andre Davis, SF, Indiana Elite
The strides that Davis has been making in a short period of time is impressive. He has always possessed excellent length and played hard, but now the skills and athleticism are beginning to catch up. Davis can shoot out to the three-point line, brings a lot of defensive versatility, and also shot the ball well in the mid-range. He has to continue to get better and more confident in his game, but the improvements are coming, and coming quickly for this talented wing. https://247sports.com/Article/College-basketball-recruiting-Breakout-players-from-first-weekend-of-spring-eval-period-117643261/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1KqaPFKrZ8
-Trey Galloway (probably out of our league) https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/trey-galloway
-Anthony Leal http://verbalcommits.com/players/anthony-leal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA_27_SvT0w
-Nick Hittle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcH5-uaPAvo&t=4s
-Tre Coleman https://verbalcommits.com/players/tre-coleman
#32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1vfvvu4IVc
-Nijel Pack https://247sports.com/Player/Nijel-Pack-46054929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CCjQPRli10
The Davis and Pack videos piqued my interest.
Quote from: zvillehaze on June 28, 2018, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 27, 2018, 09:10:20 PM
He's a two sport athlete in Football and Basketball. He's been on Purdue and Notre Dame's radars for football. He's already taken unofficial visits to both schools. He's a Fort Wayne native. I couldn't find much info if on his recruitment. No offers yet, but his high school teammate is considered one of the top 100 recruit in his class. Deontae sounds like a really strong kid.
Deontae Craig
6'4"225 lbs Sophomore
Graduates in 2020
Position: SF, PF
I saw Culver play several times this year. Deontae improved and expanded his game throughout the year. He's definitely an undersized 4 at this point, but still has two years to develop his game if he makes basketball a priority.
They were 16-1 over their last 17 games, only losing at LaLamiere. They return almost everyone, so should be the 3A favorite next year (and maybe the following as well).
They also have a rising senior point guard, Ethan Brittain-Watts, who has D-I offers. To my knowledge, Valpo hasn't shown interest in him.
Just received a football offer from Tennessee.
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1030869604938248192
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: SF
Height: 6-5
Weight: 185
Hometown: Geneseo, IL
High School: Geneseo High School
Ranked:
Rivals: 3 star
Current Offers: New Mexico, St. Johns, Loyola (visited back in early June), Drake (visited back in May), Southern
Interest: Michigan, Depaul, Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska, NIU, UNI, Northwestern, Stanford, Wisconsin, Illinois (took a visit back in February)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylrtCdojD9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGSdnI58A0
Bossi's Best: 10 prospects who could elevate in coming days
Eric Bossi • BasketballRecruiting.Rivals.com
7/11/2018
Eric Bossi identifies 10 prospects who could see their profile increase greatly over the next five days.
...
9. ISAIAH RIVERA
Why he'll take off: Last summer, 2019 point guard D.J. Carton saw his recruitment start to take off while playing for the independent Quad City Elite program. I'm not saying that the 6-foot-5 wing is going to end up a five-star prospect like Carton has developed into, but with his size, balanced game, scoring and upside I can definitely see Rivera turning into a nationally ranked player and a high-major target.
.... https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bossi-s-best-10-prospects-who-could-elevate-in-coming-days
Busy summer continues for Geneseo basketball's Rivera
JEFF WENDLAND jwendland@qconline.com
Jun 1, 2018
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"I've had quite a few college visits this year," Rivera said. "I wouldn't say I have any favorites at this point. For now, I'm just checking things out and looking for relationships with the programs that are most interested in me.
"I like to get to know the coaching staff better and see if there is a good fit and if these are people who I want to be coaching me for four years. Then, I want to check out the campus and see if this is the place I want to call home for four years."
He is excited to see the Loyola campus after having seen the program jump onto the national stage this past March, going all the way to the Final Four.
"Yeah, it is amazing to think about how you look at Loyola from a year ago and now," Rivera said. "It is really cool what they did and I want to see what the atmosphere is like now. They seem to have a lot of good things going on."
... https://qconline.com/sports/high_school_sports/busy-summer-continues-for-geneseo-basketball-s-rivera/article_b6eee960-4b99-528b-9c36-6938749e045a.html
NY2LA Summer Jam takeaways: Dain Dainja is going to explode, and Iowa and Iowa State are in the mix
Matthew Bain, Des Moines Register
July 20, 2018
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Isaiah Rivera, SG, three stars, 2020: McCaffery and Robinson also got eyes on Rivera, a product of Geneseo, Illinois, and Quad City Elite. He's a versatile, 6-5 perimeter player who had been labeled a mid-major prospect until high-majors, such as Iowa State, took a recent interest. Phenom University outmatched his team, but Rivera played well.
... https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting/2018/07/20/ny-2-la-summer-jam-dain-dainja-going-explode-iowa-and-iowa-state-recruiting-jalen-suggs-tyler-beard/804979002/
I'd really like to say we have a chance with Isaiah Rivera but that's a big leap for us. He's young and already a 3*.
I'm not sure how realistic it is for us to land him but it's way too early to tell where he'll go. There is always HS juniors and sophomores whose recruitment blows up and they start getting interest from high majors but nothing materializes from there. He's on P6 schools radars but for some kids that all it is. He has good mid-major offers right now. The best we can do is hope he builds a strong relationship with the coaches and enjoys his visit at VU.
I see that Isaiah is a pretty religious kid and is active in FCA, which VU has a pretty active chapter. Coach Lottich has been the key note speaker for FCA in the NWI area and for our campus chapter.
https://twitter.com/nwindianafca/status/976221835162464257
Just read a comment that he'll be going to Purdue Nebraska UNI and Butler after his Valpo visit. Not sure of our chances but maybe (hopefully) we'll be surprised. He'd be a huge commitment for us.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 18, 2018, 01:50:04 PM
Just read a comment that he'll be going to Purdue Nebraska UNI and Butler after his Valpo visit. Not sure of our chances but maybe (hopefully) we'll be surprised. He'd be a huge commitment for us.
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1030961832473894914
https://twitter.com/riv_isaiah/status/1031289918377611267
https://twitter.com/Dwilliams1515/status/1031342775898439680
Is it safe to say all three of our 2019 offers are active? Have we heard otherwise?
Alex Henenway
Brandin Newman
Chris Payton (most recent)
Glad to start seeing offers for 2020, considering all the seniors losing eligibility. So far (2) diminutive PG and (1) sizable G (SG or SF)?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 19, 2018, 07:11:28 PM
Is it safe to say all three of our 2019 offers are active? Have we heard otherwise?
Alex Henenway
Brandin Newman
Chris Payton (most recent)
Glad to start seeing offers for 2020, considering all the seniors losing eligibility. So far (2) diminutive PG and (1) sizable G (SG or SF)?
Active? Meaning not having been pulled?
Alex Hemenway's primary recruiter was Coach Ragland and he's in Utah now so I'm not feeling confident we're in play anymore. I haven't heard anything though. Just my hunch.
Brandon Newman isn't going to come to Valpo out of HS.
Chris Payton sounds like the main priority right now for the 2019 class. We have some competition to land him.
Quote from: VU2014 on August 19, 2018, 07:52:21 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 19, 2018, 07:11:28 PM
Is it safe to say all three of our 2019 offers are active? Have we heard otherwise?
Alex Henenway
Brandin Newman
Chris Payton (most recent)
Glad to start seeing offers for 2020, considering all the seniors losing eligibility. So far (2) diminutive PG and (1) sizable G (SG or SF)?
Active? Meaning not having been pulled?
Alex Hemenway's primary recruiter was Coach Ragland and he's in Utah now so I'm not feeling confident we're in play anymore. I haven't heard anything though. Just my hunch.
Brandon Newman isn't going to come to Valpo out of HS.
Chris Payton sounds like the main priority right now for the 2019 class. We have some competition to land him.
That's been my observation, but know some of us are closer to the source of info, was worth inquiring.
I'm hoping we have numerous active offers by OOC for (1) spot in 2019. Considering we will have transfer(s) as in year past.
Isaiah Rivera is on a visit at UNI right now and just received a offer.
A new 2020 offer
https://twitter.com/LKasubke22/status/1033826812529463297?s=20
Quote from: VU2014 on August 26, 2018, 08:24:40 PM
A new 2020 offer
https://twitter.com/LKasubke22/status/1033826812529463297?s=20
Another St. Louis area recruit. We've been recruiting that area since joining the Valley. Kasubke is a very well thought of recruit and is on many teams radars.
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: SF
Height: 6-5
Weight: 180
Hometown: St Louis, MO
High School: Chaminade College Preparatory School
Rank:
Rivals: 3 star
Current Offers: Valpo, WMU, Xavier, Creighton, Kansas State, Missouri, Missouri State
Twitter Tuesday: Stock boosters, new coaches, Malik HallEric Bossi • BasketballRecruiting.Rivals.com
6/19/2018 BASKETBALL
@ebosshoops...
Can I say for sure that Luke Kasubke is going to make the Rivals150 for the class of 2020? No, I can't say that for sure. At least not yet. However, the 6-foot-4 shooting guard is certainly somebody who is going to be in the discussion and even if he's not there after the summer, he still has two years of high school.
He has good enough size, can shoot very well from deep and is getting good experience. What I'm interested to see is how he reacts as a junior at Chaminade where he'll become the primary focus of defenders. Can he continue to knock down jumpers at a high clip and show some more ability as a one on one shot creator? If he does that, he'll have a very good shot at getting ranked.
Missouri looks to have put themselves in pretty good position early but Kansas State, Illinois, Creighton, Northwestern and many others are going to be in the mix and there have been no rumblings that he'll be looking to decide early.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/twitter-tuesday-stock-boosters-new-coaches-malik-hall
Kasubke working to change perceptionsMarcus Fitzgerald was a split-second too late, but his mistimed lob pass might have altered perceptions of the intended recipient.
Sailing in toward the rim, Luke Kasubke reached back to try to eke the ball over the rim, only to see it glance off. "I was on my way down on that lob," he said.
The mere fact Kasubke levitated for the would-be alley-oop might surprise those who think they have a firm grasp on the 6-foot-6 wing's game from watching him suit up at Chaminade and for BBE's 16U squad in the EYBL.
Heading into this summer, the scouting report on Kasubke read succinctly: catch-and-shoot threat. Now, the profile isn't wrong — at Chaminade, Kasubke sank almost 43 percent of his 3-point attempts, putting up 45 more shots from behind the arc than the next closest member of the roster.
His shot selection, though, extended from Chaminade's offense, which orbited around N.C. State-bound Jericole Hellems. When Hellems was harassed by double teams, it left Kasubke unattended for unobstructed looks at the rim.
"Something that's always been underrated is my athleticism and my ability to attack," Kasubke said.
Luke Kasubke — Chaminade Statistics
PPG FG% FT% 3FG% RPG APG SPG BPG eFG% TS%
13 46.8 68.5 42.7 2.9 1.6 1.3 0.4 59 54.9
No one was surprised when MU extended offers last week to Cam'Ron Fletcher, the No. 54 prospect in 2020, and Caleb Love, who is rated 128th. The inclusion of Kasubke, however, raised some eyebrows.
Kasubke, who also has offers from SLU, Missouri State and UT-Martin, said MU's has been in touch since it started recruiting Hellems last year, and assistant coach Chris Hollender periodically checks in. Meanwhile, he's also hearing from Creighton, Xavier, Purdue, Kansas State, Illinois and Valparaiso.
Against City Rocks last Saturday, Kasubke used the final three minutes of the first half to dispel the notion that he can't create offense for himself off the dribble.
On a fastbreak, he took a feed from Cam'Ron Fletcher on the left wing and glided to the rim to earn a hard foul and a trip to the line. A possession later, he used an elevator screen to work in a curl near the left elbow, throttling down to take a pass and get off a mid-range floater. Finally, he attacked a closeout on the right wing on a baseline drive that drew help and allowed Kasubke to lay the ball off to Fletcher.
"Somebody's always too close up on me," Kasubke said. "I can go past them. Or I'll just read the play. If someone is trailing me off the screen, I'll just attack the curl off it."
It's also a point of emphasis in his workouts this summer, along with adding a mid-range floater — a tool that would help Kasubke evolve into a three-level scoring threat.
... https://www.rockmnation.com/mizzou-basketball-recruiting/2018/5/4/17315866/missouri-basketball-recruiting-moses-moody-luke-kasubke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x-MiECTrwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEa4rJWAFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGNg2iSOoR4
Quote from: VU2014 on August 26, 2018, 08:24:40 PM
A new 2020 offer
https://twitter.com/LKasubke22/status/1033826812529463297?s=20
Xavier offers 2020 St. Louis guard Luke Kasubke
"As it pertains to the Musketeers, they now have 17 open offers out to players in the Class of 2020 according to Verbal Commits."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigeastcoastbias.com/platform/amp/2018/6/30/17520900/xavier-musketeers-basketball-recruiting-2020-luke-kasubke-offer
So, you officially offer 17 players a spot on your team for 3 or 4 openings. How exactly does that work? What if they all accept? What if only half accept? How do you tell 17 players how special they are without bursting out laughing? The class of 2020 still has 2 more years of HS. What's the over/under on total offers for the class of 2020? 40? 50?
Quote from: wh on August 27, 2018, 12:26:17 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 26, 2018, 08:24:40 PM
A new 2020 offer
https://twitter.com/LKasubke22/status/1033826812529463297?s=20
Xavier offers 2020 St. Louis guard Luke Kasubke
"As it pertains to the Musketeers, they now have 17 open offers out to players in the Class of 2020 according to Verbal Commits."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigeastcoastbias.com/platform/amp/2018/6/30/17520900/xavier-musketeers-basketball-recruiting-2020-luke-kasubke-offer
So, you officially offer 17 players a spot on your team for 3 or 4 openings. How exactly does that work? What if they all accept? What if only half accept? How do you tell 17 players how special they are without bursting out laughing? The class of 2020 still has 2 more years of HS. What's the over/under on total offers for the class of 2020? 40? 50?
Xavier's offers aren't like an offer from Valpo. For some of the kids they offer, absolutely, whenever they want to accept, they are able to. For others, they basically have to wait until Xavier tells them that their offer is now acceptable. It's a weird dynamic, but despite their multitude of offers each year (they currently have 30 "offers" out to the 2019 class with 3 spots left), they still somehow keep up with all the recruits, which is incredible.
We have a 2020 PG recruit coming in for a unofficial visit this weekend.
https://twitter.com/TheDZoneBBall/status/1037688156680855552
Lorne Bowman
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 175
Hometown: Detroit, MI
High School: St. Mary's Preparatory
Current Offers: Oakland, Nebraska, Toledo, Buffalo
Interest: Michigan, Purdue, Butler, Wisconsin, Loyola
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/lorne-bowman-ii
Wisconsin continuing to evaluate 2020 point guard Lorne Bowman
Jon McNamara • BadgerBlitz.com
MEQUON - After a strong camp performance at Wisconsin last month, Lorne Bowman continues to see his recruiting stock rise with the Badgers.
This weekend at the NY2LA Sports Summer Jam in Mequon, head coach Greg Gard watched the 6-foot-2, 180-pound point guard from St. Mary's High School in Michigan.
"They (Wisconsin) really are interested, and you can see that when the head coach comes to watch you," Bowman told BadgerBlitz.com on Sunday. "That means a lot and I really like Wisconsin. I talk to them a lot and I know they are a great program."
Bowman, who plays up an age level for REACH Legends on the AAU circuit, impressed at UW's advanced camp in June. Since then, he's kept in contact with assistant coach Dean Oliver.
"The coaching staff at Wisconsin is great and they said the camp went really well," Bowman said. "They just want to keep watching to see how I improve in order to make sure that I'm getting better. Coach Oliver is a really cool guy and a great assistant coach. I really like him and we're starting to build a good relationship together.
"The spring and summer have been good. Getting back with the guys and getting some wins at some tough tournaments has been a lot of fun. There's been some ups and downs, but it's all about getting better."
Outside of Wisconsin, Bowman has an early offer from Buffalo with interest coming from a handful of other programs.
"I'm hearing from Loyola Chicago, Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Butler, Toledo and a couple other schools," he said. "This summer I was at Michigan and Michigan State for camps, along with Wisconsin.
"I plan on taking a couple visits in August after this AAU season. Wisconsin, for sure, and then probably Purdue and Michigan."
In the 2020 class, the Badgers have known offers out to Jalen Johnson, Zeb Jackson, Ethan Morton, Dawson Garcia, Ben Carlson and Jonathan Davis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhHpjj0fIQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBic4BNIEUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW54kz2LgnA
Good to hear 2020 might be a deep class, because we'll have another big incoming class that year. We always seem to be on a 4 year cycle where we really need to nail that class and land impact players. The coaching staff seems to be really working the recruiting trail for that class.
https://twitter.com/salspeaksball/status/1037528259691507712
https://twitter.com/TheRealLorneB/status/1038535120788107264
https://twitter.com/ScoutsFocusKC/status/1039629662454984705
https://twitter.com/vashon_bball/status/1039674003802284032
Valpo coaches could be recruiting: Keshawn Williams or Martice Mitchell. They have a strong 2020 class.
https://twitter.com/greatandgritty/status/1040072289646272512
http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=4191
Update on Tyler Beard and his visits so far
I know this will make some people happy. The staff is recruiting a big. The only problem might be that Smits/Jay will be graduated and this kid would be true freshman thrown to the wolves. But you know. Maybe we land Skogman and he'd have a year under his belt to take the pressure off whoever they bring in that big 2020 class.
He's getting interest from Butler, Ball State, Purdue, NDSU.
https://twitter.com/RyanJamesMN/status/1041997591607697408
https://twitter.com/minnehut/status/1022596090044923904
https://twitter.com/minnehut/status/999863314581807106
Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10528425/5ab04051b018a50864fc943b
Quote from: VU2014 on September 18, 2018, 08:53:52 AM
I know this will make some people happy. The staff is recruiting a big. The only problem might be that Smits/Jay will be graduated and this kid would be true freshman thrown to the wolves. But you know. Maybe we land Skogman and he'd have a year under his belt to take the pressure off whoever they bring in that big 2020 class.
He's getting interest from Butler, Ball State, Purdue, NDSU.
Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10528425/5ab04051b018a50864fc943b
An announcer during the Indiana State game said it best, "there just aren't a lot of 7'0" people roaming the earth" in reference to our Centers. Now I know this kid is (at best 6'9") so this quote doesn't exactly apply. But the concept is there. We face stiff competition for any guys of size because the % of the population that can walk and chew gum at the height is extraordinarily small.
I can only assume the #1 reason that it takes mid-majors like us more time to develop C and PF is because we get the less athletic or polished guys that P6 don't scoop up. If this kid is already receiving attention from Purdue and the like, then we have an uphill battle. Glad we are throwing our hat in the ring early though, because that is our best chance.
I continue to think our best sources for size are non-traditional markets outside of the USA. These young men grow up playing soccer and I can tell you from first hand experience, soccer does wonders for athleticism.
Note: I even think most P6 schools have to develop their C/PF too, because truthfully most of these young men hit crazy growth spurts that knock their coordination for a loop. So I think it could be said that all
but NBA bound C/PF need time to develop as freshmen at a greater % than other positions.
I think we are getting too hung up on finding a real big (as in 7') when The Valley is more athletic and quick. We aren't in the Horizon any longer. We need 6'7" or 6'8" quicker guys. Think of Butler for example. Sure, right now they have a 6'10" and 6'11" on their roster but they aren't the center (no pun intended) of their offense. They have been successful with guys like Kelan Martin (6'7"), Tyler Wideman (6'8") or Andrew Chrabascz (6'7") coupled with athletic guards who can shoot.
Quote from: vu72 on September 18, 2018, 01:01:08 PM
I think we are getting too hung up on finding a real big (as in 7') when The Valley is more athletic and quick. We aren't in the Horizon any longer. We need 6'7" or 6'8" quicker guys. Think of Butler for example. Sure, right now they have a 6'10" and 6'11" on their roster but they aren't the center (no pun intended) of their offense. They have been successful with guys like Kelan Martin (6'7"), Tyler Wideman (6'8") or Andrew Chrabascz (6'7") coupled with athletic guards who can shoot.
I'd agree (mostly) with that statement. Height usually accompanies long reach, I'd take 6'9" all day that had a reach in the 7'0" plus range with a nice dash of athleticism. But maybe I am dreaming with us getting that combination. IRREGARDLESS ( ;D) we need to be recruiting length and quick!
I agree as well. Give me a few good ball handlers and shooters and a bunch of athletic 6'6'' - 6'9'' guys who are basically interchangeable.
Might look good that we just beat UIC today. I'm not sure if he was watching the scrimmage or not.
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1056236298653130753
Caden Boser
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: PF
Height: 6-7
Hometown: Eau Claire, WI
High School: Memorial High School
Rank: NA
Offers: UWM
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/caden-boser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4JL3qPy10
Quote from: VU2014 on October 27, 2018, 06:26:48 PM
Might look good that we just beat UIC today. I'm not sure if he was watching the scrimmage or not.
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1056236298653130753
Caden Boser
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: PF
Height: 6-7
Hometown: Eau Claire, WI
High School: Memorial High School
Rank: NA
Offers: UWM
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/caden-boser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4JL3qPy10
1) He can shoot
2) He's sort of, well...less than athletic
3) Watch his highlight video on mute, that's some suspect music that a tone deaf person might better enjoy
Still nice to see we are out on the recruiting trail to replace the 700 seniors we have that year.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 27, 2018, 06:26:48 PM
Might look good that we just beat UIC today. I'm not sure if he was watching the scrimmage or not.
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1056236298653130753
Caden Boser
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: PF
Height: 6-7
Hometown: Eau Claire, WI
High School: Memorial High School
Rank: NA
Offers: UWM
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/caden-boser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4JL3qPy10
1) He can shoot
2) He's sort of, well...less than athletic
3) Watch his highlight video on mute, that's some suspect music that a tone deaf person might better enjoy
Still nice to see we are out on the recruiting trail to replace the 700 seniors we have that year.
His athleticism doesn't stick out, but these were his Freshman year of HS highlights so maybe he's still growing into his body. He's already 6-7.
We need top recruit in 2020 that can recruit four of his friends for our own version of the FAB FIVE.
https://twitter.com/PrepHoops_WI/status/1059610845733359616
Isaac Lindsey
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS JR)
Position: SG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 155
Hometown: Mineral Point, WI
High School: Mineral Point High School
Rank: NA
Offers: Brown, UIC, UWM, DePaul, UNLV, SDSU, Green Bay
Interest: Wisconsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps4Ac_PmUGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDBcR3B4L28
https://twitter.com/MovementHoops/status/1039999899436306432
One of Valpo's 2020 PG recruits will be announcing his college decision on Friday. I don't think VU is in mix. His recruitment skyrocketed over the summer. I'm also pretty skeptical about HS junior verbal commits to program. (ex: Payton committing to ISUr and decommitting after more coaches recruit them).
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/lorne-bowman-ii
It's seems like the coaches are targeting a PG for this class. I like the idea of getting one every 2 years to spread the scholarships. When someone graduates, they emerging upperclassmen theoretically should be ready to step right in and take the reigns.
https://twitter.com/SBock247/status/1062088031384035330
We're in Lorne Bowman's Final 4. I don't feel confident with this crop of schools but we were mentioned as one of the teams he is considering which is nice to hear. His stock has been rising. He has some nice things to say about Valpo and the coaches.
https://twitter.com/MatthewBain_/status/1062119824179036161
I feel like just based on his answers he's going to Iowa, he seems to clearly be focused on their specific basketball strategy vs more general positive things about the others. BUT it's good to see us in the running and it helps to have out name mentioned with positive things being sad about the coach and the school.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 14, 2018, 09:21:47 AM
We're in Lorne Bowman's Final 4. I don't feel confident with this crop of schools but we were mentioned as one of the teams he is considering which is nice to hear. His stock has been rising. He has some nice things to say about Valpo and the coaches.
https://twitter.com/MatthewBain_/status/1062119824179036161
So this would only be a verbal commitment since it's 2020. If it were 2019 then coaches comment about "not expecting early signings" would be a mark against.
Also agree, that's a helluva list for a young man to turn down. But glad to see we resonate with him.
Quote from: crusader05 on November 14, 2018, 09:35:02 AM
I feel like just based on his answers he's going to Iowa, he seems to clearly be focused on their specific basketball strategy vs more general positive things about the others. BUT it's good to see us in the running and it helps to have out name mentioned with positive things being sad about the coach and the school.
It seems like Iowa fans seem to think Wisconsin is the favorite but I have no clue where he's going. I haven't been following his recruitment too closely.
It's nice to hear that we're on a kid of his talents radar because the coaches identified his talent early on and entered his recruitment early on in the process. That's a positive sign. With Coach Lottich entering his third year as the head coach they're probably starting to establish recruiting avenues that take time to build up. What may have altered their recruiting strategy a bit was the switch the Valley because they need to recruit a different type of player than the ones they needed in the HL. I've heard it takes time for coaches to fully establish a recruitment network. We had a bit of a smoother tranistion with Coach Lottich being hired from within and Coach Gore staying with the program.
Don't forget Valpo is closest school for Lorne. His family can watch alot of games. Hoping Javon is helping with recruits. It will be his team fall of 2020.
Quote from: tiny707 on November 14, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Don't forget Valpo is closest school for Lorne. His family can watch alot of games. Hoping Javon is helping with recruits. It will be his team fall of 2020.
I'd agree but 3hr 47min is hardly close enough to see a lot of games.
Bakari tried the Big Ten and is from Detroit. Hoping he spent some time with Lorne. I still have hope for tomorrow.
True that 3.5 hours driving is not "close." But flying connections from Iowa and Neb through nasty Chicago airports ain't a picnic either and it costs a lot more.
I occasionally drive down from just south of Green Bay (about 4 hours if Chicago traffic isn't too bad) to watch a FB game and then drive home again that day. And I don't have a kid on the team. When you have a kid playing, the motivation is much, much higher. In that light as a parent, 3.5 hours to see your kid play at Valpo is not a burden. Plus, there are 4 MVC schools in Illinois that add additional opportunities to see Valpo away games as well.
Committed to Wisconsin
https://twitter.com/TheRealLorneB/status/1063553043789242373?s=20
Next man up. Who's next.?
Local kid and point guard DaVion Davis put up 40 in Calumet's scrimmage vs Morton tonight.
Quote from: M on November 17, 2018, 02:56:40 AM
Local kid and point guard DaVion Davis put up 40 in Calumet's scrimmage vs Morton tonight.
I've heard some very positive things about Davis and he apparently really likes Valpo, which is another plus in my book.
My only concern about going after Davis would be that having two shorter PGs (sub 5-9) in Sackey and Davis could be a roster issue. I also haven't seen Davis play other tan highlights. To be play at this level with that height he'd need have 1 or special attributes to his game (ex: Sackey's speed, explosiveness, hops). But he can ball out then I want him In our program . Definitely a player to keep an eye on.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 17, 2018, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: M on November 17, 2018, 02:56:40 AM
Local kid and point guard DaVion Davis put up 40 in Calumet's scrimmage vs Morton tonight.
I've heard some very positive things about Davis and he apparently really likes Valpo, which is another plus in my book.
My only concern about going after Davis would be that having two shorter PGs (sub 5-9) in Sackey and Davis could be a roster issue. I also haven't seen Davis play other tan highlights. To be play at this level with that height he'd need have 1 or special attributes to his game (ex: Sackey's speed, explosiveness, hops). But he can ball out then I want him In our program . Definitely a player to keep an eye on.
I quickly searched highlight tape and found the max preps one to be "mehhh". Please link us to the one(s) you found impressive.
He's undersized probably 5'10-5'11 now (we were about eye to eye when I saw him this summer and I'm 5'11) and muscles up from 150-170 this past summer (built a little like Max Joseph) but hoping he'll hit that late basketball player growth spurt and stretch out. Kid can shoot from anywhere on the court and get by anybody one on one.
Just posted this hear because one I'm a big fan of his and two he loves Valpo.
Probably not MVC caliber, yet, but ya never know. Lord knows Valpo could use his shooting, lol.
Quote from: M on November 17, 2018, 10:35:56 AM
He's undersized probably 5'10-5'11 now (we were about eye to eye when I saw him this summer and I'm 5'11) and muscles up from 150-170 this past summer (built a little like Max Joseph) but hoping he'll hit that late basketball player growth spurt and stretch out. Kid can shoot from anywhere on the court and get by anybody one on one.
Just posted this hear because one I'm a big fan of his and two he loves Valpo.
Probably not MVC caliber, yet, but ya never know. Lord knows Valpo could use his shooting, lol.
Thanks for the solid input M. In the games you've seen, what type of competition is he playing? Is he getting up shots against size and speed?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 17, 2018, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: M on November 17, 2018, 10:35:56 AM
He's undersized probably 5'10-5'11 now (we were about eye to eye when I saw him this summer and I'm 5'11) and muscles up from 150-170 this past summer (built a little like Max Joseph) but hoping he'll hit that late basketball player growth spurt and stretch out. Kid can shoot from anywhere on the court and get by anybody one on one.
Just posted this hear because one I'm a big fan of his and two he loves Valpo.
Probably not MVC caliber, yet, but ya never know. Lord knows Valpo could use his shooting, lol.
Thanks for the solid input M. In the games you've seen, what type of competition is he playing? Is he getting up shots against size and speed?
Also meant to ask, who not MVC caliber yet? Thanks for the input
His hs competition isn't bad but isn't elite by any means. Mostly 2A and 3A schools. He really shined in the state tournament last year against some real good teams, I want to say he averaged 22 a game during the sectional and regional games. I don't think it should be over looked that he was the focus of the opponents defensive strategies as well. Joined a better AAU team (Indiana Game) on a better circuit this past summer and by the end of the season was really leading the way.
I was referring to a Davis when I said not MVC caliber, and what I mean by that is his past production probably hasn't warranted that kind of a look.
https://www.wjobnetwork.com/wjob-shows/high-school-sports/the-rebuilding-keeps-rocking/
Quote from: M on November 30, 2018, 09:15:24 PM
https://www.wjobnetwork.com/wjob-shows/high-school-sports/the-rebuilding-keeps-rocking/
C'mon man. Add something to your post so that we don't have labor through an entire article
to kinda figure out what the purpose of your post happened to be.
:'( :'(
It's about the Davis kid...the only kid ive mentioned in maybe this entire thread.
Quote"He had a good summer," Nelson said of Davis. "He's getting college attention. He has no major college offers. Yet. But if he keeps having games like he had on Saturday night, he will. He's a diamond in the rough."
I'd imagine our coaches are keeping tabs on his recruitment. I'm not sure we'll offer but it's too early to tell.
Just to mix it up...Jonelle (Nelly) Davis has 20-15-6 with 9 steals as 21st Century dropped Bowman.
Nelly holds several D1 offers.
Heard a name of a recruit the staff is interested in, Carter Gilmore. He's a SF from Wisconsin. Coach Townsend and Coach Bowen are both very familiar with that states recruitment.
VUBBFan, pointed to that article that Skogman sounds unlikely to land with Valpo but maybe we land a Wisconsin kid in the 2020 class. I wouldn't be surprised if we started a series with a UWM or GB in the near future to assist in the recruitment of some of these kids in the near future.
Quote from: VU2014 on December 26, 2018, 06:09:39 PM
Heard a name of a recruit the staff is interested in, Carter Gilmore. He's a SF from Wisconsin. Coach Townsend and Coach Bowen are both very familiar with that states recruitment.
VUBBFan, pointed to that article that Skogman sounds unlikely to land with Valpo but maybe we land a Wisconsin kid in the 2020 class. I wouldn't be surprised if we started a series with a UWM or GB in the near future to assist in the recruitment of some of these kids in the near future.
Gilmore's offer list so far appears to include DePaul (one of 11 offers at his position in the 2020 class), UIC, SIU and UWM for sure and 247's list includes Brown, but verbalcommits does not.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10358544/5c34d70896767b086c9e2271
https://twitter.com/DavisVion/status/1082687449271361537
Da'Vion is an elite outside shooter who has really adjusted his game this season as defenses focus on him. A lot more attacking off the dribble and mid range so far.
Another local kid really performing at a high level is Jonelle Davis at 21st Century. Maybe we should have a thread for area talent we'd like to see considered.
Kid from Whiting just got an offer from Miami (Ohio). Saw him play once, has some nice athleticism. I'm sorry his name is escaping me right now.
Bradley just offered Isaiah Rivera. Valpo Coaches are heavily involved in his recruitment.
https://twitter.com/midwesthoopssl/status/1085546010351468545?s=21
The Coaches seem to be work really working this class hard, as they should be. It's crucial they nail this class.
Markus Watson just had a 21(!) assist game. He was one of Valpo's first 2020 recruits. His only 2 offers are Valpo and Chicago State. That will likely change.
https://twitter.com/TheMacIrvinFire/status/1086081740848779265
DaVion Davis has gone over 30 in 4 of his last 5 and leads the whole area in 3 pointers made.
I hope VU at least invites him to their elite camp.
Quote from: M on February 02, 2019, 09:54:12 PM
DaVion Davis has gone over 30 in 4 of his last 5 and leads the whole area in 3 pointers made.
I hope VU at least invites him to their elite camp.
According to this Times story from almost a year ago Davis has already been at one of Valpo's camps.
https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/calumet-s-davion-davis-has-grown-up-on-the-basketball/article_623fbada-d37f-5c76-a012-2ba39c69c64d.html
Calumet's Davion Davis has grown up on the basketball floorBryce Drew hasn't lived in Northwest Indiana in a couple years.
The former Valparaiso University coach is now at Vanderbilt, but his basketball legacy still casts a shadow in these parts.
Calumet sophomore Davion Davis admitted he was a goofy, fun-loving student while attending Lake Ridge Middle School. He admitted attending a camp at VU the summer before he enrolled at Calumet changed everything.
"He just tore it up at Valpo, he dominated," Calumet coach Dominique Nelson said.
"That's when I knew I had to start working harder so colleges will notice," Davis said.
So far. So very good.
Davis attended a couple of games at Valpo. He's met coach Matt Lottich and saw the inside of the Crusaders locker room.
Possibly like Bryce Drew did 20 years ago with the Crusaders, Davis relishes cutting down the nets. No one maybe expected this to occur last Saturday.
But it did.
"I love watching guys in college cut down the nets," Davis said. "After we lost last year, I put on Facebook that I wanted to cut down the nets this year and we did. And we don't want this to be the last nets we cut."
How are Davis' handles? At that size he'd probably need to play PG at this level. Do you think he could develop into a quality distributor as well as being a scorer?
That was between his 8th grade and Freshmen year. Totally different. The elite camp is invite only for high school kids.
I haven't met anyone who could stay in front of him...that camp he was at he was making VU guys jump and going by. Lol, though one of those guys was Chandler Livingston so maybe that doesn't count for as much 😂
I hope we get Davis. He's fast he can score and he wants to win and possesses the ability to lead a team. That checks pretty much all of my boxes.
Quote from: M on February 03, 2019, 08:33:15 AM
That was between his 8th grade and Freshmen year. Totally different. The elite camp is invite only for high school kids.
I didn't mean to say Davis was at a VU elite camp.
Quote from: bbtds on February 03, 2019, 01:12:24 AMAccording to this Times story from almost a year ago Davis has already been at one of Valpo's camps.
I understood ya, just clarifying which camp it was. Anybody could put their kid in that particular camp. It's for like ages 8-14.
Valpo not mentioned (in the title at least, I'm about to read it), but here's another great region player. https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-boys-basketball-notes-st-0208-story.html
One of Valpo's top 2020 recruiting targets will be playing for Meanstreets AAU this summer. (Same AAU program as Javon). He'll get maximum exposure with that AAU team. He's not flying under the radar. Well known Illinois prospect.
https://twitter.com/riv_isaiah/status/1100892881903120385?s=21
At this point, the first thing we need to look at with any future recruit is, "Can he shoot and be a scorer?"
I'm wondering how 2 straight rough seasons in a row will affect recruiting. We need to hit on this 2020 class! I don't think it will be a problem if it includes a high ceiling transfer or two but they need to hit on the 4 year players also. I think we hit on Javon and Sackey but we need to keep building on that. We'll be able to offer major playing time as a freshman which should be a big selling point. I've heard that they are dead set on adding another young PG in this class which should be interesting to see who it will be.
Anybody know of a team that needs outside shooting?! Really hope they give this local kid an invite to their elite camp this summer.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10358544/5c8a8315a676490b2cf147a9
Need to tap into Canada, Whitney Young, Meanstreets and Alton area for 2020. Chemistry is everything. We can also sell the Fab Five concept. Worked for Michigan.
People talk about the lessening of shooting capability here among US kids and wondering about why. OTOH, many "experts" cite the number of pure shooters being developed in Europe. Here's a unique idea. Why doesn't Valpo mine this resource. It would take a lot of work and, lord knows, we've never done anything like that before ::)
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 14, 2019, 09:27:35 PM
People talk about the lessening of shooting capability here among US kids and wondering about why. OTOH, many "experts" cite the number of pure shooters being developed in Europe. Here's a unique idea. Why doesn't Valpo mine this resource. It would take a lot of work and, lord knows, we've never done anything like that before ::)
Valpo took advantage of Europe when nobody else was recruiting European kids. It's completely different these days because many scout Europe and many of the top prospects play at camps in the US now days. Not many skilled Europeans are flying under the radar these days.
I also don't think people realize how tireless of a recruiter Scott Drew was. He is cut from a different cloth in terms of talent evaluation and his relentless work ethic in recruiting.
https://twitter.com/ryanjamesmn/status/1116841282695987205?s=21
I'm not sure how in play we are anymore, with Sackey and Siggy in the fold but one of Valpo's 2020 PG offers just landed his first high major offer. But tbh an offer from this Illinois staff could just mean interest with how they conduct business, which is common among high majors.
I'd imagine we have other needs with our 2020 scholarships
https://twitter.com/joehoopsreport/status/1122954476351053825?s=21
https://twitter.com/RyanJamesMN/status/1123380673492996097
Valpo's next 7-footer?
https://twitter.com/RyanJamesMN/status/1122176189093879810
https://twitter.com/PureIntensityBB/status/1057473140731850753
https://twitter.com/RyanJamesMN/status/1060387129971408896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8lRL95wnfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZq95seX9Zg
I know they say don't judge a book by its cover, but that head shot looks like he enjoys Micah's favorite herb.
The return of Javon to the program has to help recruiting. You have a high quality player who comes to Valpo, plays well and receives recognition at Valpo, decides to look around, and then decides that Valpo is the best place for him. That says loudly to recruits that Valpo is a special place.
How many scholarships will VU even have to offer the 2020 class? It was going to be a huge class a few months ago. Now I think it's only 2 but I'm not certain.
Kiser and Fazekas for sure will be gone. It depends on if Jay stays or if we replace him with a grad transfer. So 2-3 now, not counting any transfers.
Quote from: M on May 02, 2019, 04:35:59 PM
How many scholarships will VU even have to offer the 2020 class? It was going to be a huge class a few months ago. Now I think it's only 2 but I'm not certain.
Correct, It's Ryan and John only now. My how things have changed. That Lottich is sly like a fox.
Quote from: bbtds on May 02, 2019, 04:38:59 PMQuote from: M on May 02, 2019, 04:35:59 PMHow many scholarships will VU even have to offer the 2020 class? It was going to be a huge class a few months ago. Now I think it's only 2 but I'm not certain.
Correct, It's Ryan and John only now. My how things have changed. That Lottich is sly like a fox.
Unless the final scholarship for 2019 goes to a one year grad transfer. Then we would have 3.
Quote from: VUBBFan on May 02, 2019, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: bbtds on May 02, 2019, 04:38:59 PMQuote from: M on May 02, 2019, 04:35:59 PMHow many scholarships will VU even have to offer the 2020 class? It was going to be a huge class a few months ago. Now I think it's only 2 but I'm not certain.
Correct, It's Ryan and John only now. My how things have changed. That Lottich is sly like a fox.
Unless the final scholarship for 2019 goes to a one year grad transfer. Then we would have 3.
Good point. Incredibly Lottich has evened out the classes well.
Quote from: bbtds on May 02, 2019, 04:52:34 PMQuote from: VUBBFan on May 02, 2019, 04:43:49 PMQuote from: bbtds on May 02, 2019, 04:38:59 PMQuote from: M on May 02, 2019, 04:35:59 PMHow many scholarships will VU even have to offer the 2020 class? It was going to be a huge class a few months ago. Now I think it's only 2 but I'm not certain.
Correct, It's Ryan and John only now. My how things have changed. That Lottich is sly like a fox.
Unless the final scholarship for 2019 goes to a one year grad transfer. Then we would have 3.
Good point. Incredibly Lottich has evened out the classes well.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1124075558869114882
One Erik Buggs HS players is getting interest from Valpo. He's a big PG.
https://twitter.com/imjusteb5/status/1125059112981729285?s=21
https://youtu.be/SY7L8PxpwwI
Quote from: VU2014 on May 05, 2019, 11:17:59 AM
One Erik Buggs HS players is getting interest from Valpo. He's a big PG.
https://twitter.com/imjusteb5/status/1125059112981729285?s=21
https://youtu.be/SY7L8PxpwwI
It's obvious that team has a few "Buggs" to work out of their long range shooting game.
Interesting. I guess you still have to recruit for a position even if you don't project for it to be a need these days. Another 5-10 but very skilled PG
https://twitter.com/g3risingstars/status/1128472162866737157
https://twitter.com/MustangsMatts/status/1128327390860599296
"South Oldham High School has been firmly in the mix for the 8th region title almost every year for as long as I can remember. Part of their tradition is having high IQ players who can really shoot the ball. The latest in that long line is Junior sharpshooter Luke Morrison. Morrison is a 6'5 wing who is off to a tremendous start for the Dragons this season. Luke is averaging 22 points per game through 4 games while shooting a ridiculous 61% from three and making 3.5 shots per game from beyond the arc. Heading into this season, Luke's main goal was, "to get stronger. Also to tighten up my ball handling, particularly in the open court." So far so good as Morrison has shown an improved ability to push the pace with the ball in his hands."
https://twitter.com/PrepHoopsKY/status/1072596443905605635
https://twitter.com/NateInSports/status/1097312550599958528
Third Team All-State in Kentucky as a Junior
Luke Morrison, South Oldham height: 6-3 yr: Jr. PPG: 25.4
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/preps/kentucky/2019/04/11/check-out-courier-journals-boys-basketball-all-state-selections/3410410002/
https://twitter.com/hoopseen/status/1129526239218192384
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1130846957822447617
https://twitter.com/D1Circuit/status/1134252867890614272
Quote from: VU2014 on May 21, 2019, 10:03:54 PM
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1130846957822447617
From highlights, looks to be a good shooter with some size.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7728141/5c32b03f32ddbc05449b8ce2 (https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7728141/5c32b03f32ddbc05449b8ce2)
https://twitter.com/wisbbyearbook/status/1137783225407946752?s=21
Quote from: EddieCabot on May 31, 2019, 10:26:00 AMQuote from: VU2014 on May 21, 2019, 10:03:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1130846957822447617
From highlights, looks to be a good shooter with some size. https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7728141/5c32b03f32ddbc05449b8ce2 (https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7728141/5c32b03f32ddbc05449b8ce2)
Not comforting that we're the only D1 interested in him though.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on June 10, 2019, 03:31:06 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on May 31, 2019, 10:26:00 AMQuote from: VU2014 on May 21, 2019, 10:03:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1130846957822447617
From highlights, looks to be a good shooter with some size. https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7728141/5c32b03f32ddbc05449b8ce2 (https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7728141/5c32b03f32ddbc05449b8ce2)
Not comforting that we're the only D1 interested in him though.
But should we take some solace in knowing he's not a 3 star transfer from Nebraska or a 4 star out of OSU? Anyone up for back to the basics?!?!?
Just want to win...
I agree with this... It's been a rough two years... I'd still take a bad year in the MVC over a good year in the HL though (though I concede that perception may be shifting on that for many of you).
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on June 10, 2019, 10:11:42 PM
I agree with this... It's been a rough two years... I'd still take a bad mediocre year in the MVC over a good year in the HL though (though I concede that perception may be shifting on that for many of you).
There. I fixed it for you. ;D
Glad to see we are looking for some bigs and besides that he is already a Crusader.
https://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1138972655787241472
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1139294188367962112
Sam Dekker went to Sheboygan Lutheran.
Valpo is recruiting Wisconsin and Minnesota pretty hard. The Todd Townsend and Matt Bowen effect.
They better be as successful as the previous guys were at recruiting Chicago/Illinois.
Long time board reader & lurker...
Wanted to bring attention to Connor Linke 6'9" PF from St Charles North (IL). His parents are both alumni, mom Jenny Walton played Volleyball in early 90's. Just picked up an offer from Army West Point. Not sure if can compete at MVC level but seems a bit under the radar with his connection to the University.
Nice video on his verbal commits page. I can't post a link but you can Google "verbal commits connor linke"
Quote from: valpo1995 on June 19, 2019, 11:57:12 AM
Long time board reader & lurker...
Wanted to bring attention to Connor Linke 6'9" PF from St Charles North (IL). His parents are both alumni, mom Jenny Walton played Volleyball in early 90's. Just picked up an offer from Army West Point. Not sure if can compete at MVC level but seems a bit under the radar with his connection to the University.
Nice video on his verbal commits page. I can't post a link but you can Google "verbal commits connor linke"
Welcome and thanks for the post. After five posts (I think) you will be able to add links. Connor seems like the kind of kid we need.
Quote from: valpo1995 on June 19, 2019, 11:57:12 AM
Long time board reader & lurker...
Wanted to bring attention to Connor Linke 6'9" PF from St Charles North (IL). His parents are both alumni, mom Jenny Walton played Volleyball in early 90's. Just picked up an offer from Army West Point. Not sure if can compete at MVC level but seems a bit under the radar with his connection to the University.
Nice video on his verbal commits page. I can't post a link but you can Google "verbal commits connor linke"
Here's the video
Hey, it looks like, as a junior, that he already knows (a) what a dunk is (b) how to rebound and (c) can sink a 15' jumper with a guy in his face. @ 6-9 these are commendable skills that should get him a good look by our staff. Being a Valpo legacy kid couldn't hurt either.
Five rising seniors ready to emerge
Look for these five under-the-radar players to enhance the Class of 2020.
By Joe Henricksen on June 5, 2019 10:02 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/2019/6/5/18653796/chicago-high-school-basketball-five-senior-ready-to-emerge
I'd like to see him emerge in his senior season with a Crusader scholarship offer.
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 19, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
Hey, it looks like, as a junior, that he already knows (a) what a dunk is (b) how to rebound and (c) can sink a 15' jumper with a guy in his face. @ 6-9 these are commendable skills that should get him a good look by our staff. Being a Valpo legacy kid couldn't hurt either.
Based on a small unit of measure, he looked decent. What are we missing, why would we not take a scholarship look at him? You mentioned he might not be MVC level and I was curious as to why?
Quote from: wh on June 19, 2019, 10:57:56 PM
Five rising seniors ready to emerge
Look for these five under-the-radar players to enhance the Class of 2020.
By Joe Henricksen on June 5, 2019 10:02 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/2019/6/5/18653796/chicago-high-school-basketball-five-senior-ready-to-emerge
I'd like to see him emerge in his senior season with a Crusader scholarship offer.
Me too. The article mentions four important factors Valpo should focus on: high academics, athletic rebounding, intense defense and coachability.
Valpo's Elite Camp is August 3rd....maybe something will happen then.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 20, 2019, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 19, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
Hey, it looks like, as a junior, that he already knows (a) what a dunk is (b) how to rebound and (c) can sink a 15' jumper with a guy in his face. @ 6-9 these are commendable skills that should get him a good look by our staff. Being a Valpo legacy kid couldn't hurt either.
Based on a small unit of measure, he looked decent. What are we missing, why would we not take a scholarship look at him? You mentioned he might not be MVC level and I was curious as to why?
I'm not qualified to say who the Valpo staff should or shouldn't offer...and haven't even seen him play in person. My comment was based upon only having 1 lower level offer, but hoping he can improve his stock in Sr season.
Quote from: valpo1995 on June 20, 2019, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 20, 2019, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 19, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
Hey, it looks like, as a junior, that he already knows (a) what a dunk is (b) how to rebound and (c) can sink a 15' jumper with a guy in his face. @ 6-9 these are commendable skills that should get him a good look by our staff. Being a Valpo legacy kid couldn't hurt either.
Based on a small unit of measure, he looked decent. What are we missing, why would we not take a scholarship look at him? You mentioned he might not be MVC level and I was curious as to why?
I'm not qualified to say who the Valpo staff should or shouldn't offer...and haven't even seen him play in person. My comment was based upon only having 1 lower level offer, but hoping he can improve his stock in Sr season.
Thanks, was curious if maybe you saw him play and had examples. Thanks for sharing though, nice to have new posters join in. He seems athletic and I'd think he'd be a prime candidate by what little is out there.
Keep adding your thoughts please!
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1142243187534290944
Sounds like coaches will be in minnesota
https://twitter.com/MinnesotaFury/status/1145707636802891777
https://twitter.com/Rick_Sports10/status/1151255769377136646
Quote from: VU2014 on July 16, 2019, 06:17:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Rick_Sports10/status/1151255769377136646
At 6'1" I don't think he qualifies as the JUCO big that we're hoping for as a late summer surprise.
Elite camp is August 3rd at VU...wonder who will turn up that Saturday morning.
https://twitter.com/mustangsmatts/status/1151898200275636224?s=21
Good to see us going after a big.
https://twitter.com/Minnehutjr/status/1155547674575331329
http://verbalcommits.com/players/jacob-hutson
Quote from: VUBBFan on July 28, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
Good to see us going after a big.
https://twitter.com/Minnehutjr/status/1155547674575331329
http://verbalcommits.com/players/jacob-hutson
Another offer as well. Baylor Hebb.
https://twitter.com/BaylorHebb/status/1154217316529389569?s=20
We are really piling up the offers for 2020.
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1157069970792230912
There were probably 60+ juniors and seniors to be at Valpo's Elite Camp this afternoon. Overheard one can load came from 8 hours away.
Just handing out offers left and right for 2020. Here's the latest.
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1157825258805768192
Appears to be a 180 degree shift in recruiting philosophy from the last several yrs where VUBB was very particular and did long-term reconnaissance before offering.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 04, 2019, 12:22:05 AM
Appears to be a 180 degree shift in recruiting philosophy from the last several yrs where VUBB was very particular and did long-term reconnaissance before offering.
It is interesting to see. Maybe a new generation of student athletes requires a different strategy of recruiting?
It seem like we've been offering quicker this offseason. But we don't know how long the staff has been in on these guys. We can only speculate.
There are certainly kids that they have been playing the game on. Example: Kyle Ross (Local kid). I know for a fact they've been recruiting him for a while and love the kid.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 04, 2019, 12:22:05 AM
Appears to be a 180 degree shift in recruiting philosophy from the last several yrs where VUBB was very particular and did long-term reconnaissance before offering.
If Verbal Commits is accurate, Valpo now has 10 offers out in 2020 for 3 open scholarships.
Although there might be only 3 open scholarships now, there may be more, after players announce intention to transfer. It seems like the average number of transfers per mid-major team is 3-5 per year. So, maybe the coaching staff is predicting 6 to 8 open scholarships, and they don't want to rely on landing incoming transfers.
Valpo gets it's first 2020 commit
https://twitter.com/wisconsinpgc/status/1158928583441690624?s=21
Quote from: VU2014 on August 06, 2019, 10:13:29 PM
Valpo gets it's first 2020 commit
https://twitter.com/wisconsinpgc/status/1158928583441690624?s=21
Wait, WHAT? A Lutheran?????
Could be a steal!
https://www.htrnews.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2019/01/19/sam-dekker-sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-similar-coaches-say-high-school-basketball/2599369002/
Quote from: VU2014 on August 06, 2019, 10:13:29 PMValpo gets it's first 2020 commit https://twitter.com/wisconsinpgc/status/1158928583441690624?s=21
Seems like he could be a solid player and he's not a guard to add to our platoon of guards
Looks pretty good.
https://twitter.com/NY2LASPORTSTV/status/1116541364647415810
And he already has a Crusader uniform.
https://twitter.com/Tom_Dombeck/status/1112062738698772480
So they won the WIAA Division 5 state title game this past year in where he had 35 pts and 19 reb. Anyone able to find the game on the Internet? Sure would be nice to see him play his title game...
Quote from: vu72 on August 06, 2019, 10:31:34 PM
Could be a steal!
https://www.htrnews.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2019/01/19/sam-dekker-sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-similar-coaches-say-high-school-basketball/2599369002/
This video shows more of his versatility, though the competition isn't what it is in the EYBL. While he's not super athletic, he is very skilled and plays under control, which should serve him well at Valpo. All in all, nice pickup, IMO.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 07, 2019, 06:06:58 AM
So they won the WIAA Division 5 state title game this past year in where he had 35 pts and 19 reb. Anyone able to find the game on the Internet? Sure would be nice to see him play his title game...
"Division 5" could mean the biggest schools or the smallest schools or somewhere in-between. Anybody know how Wisconsin sets up their class system? Guessing with those #'s in a state title game he is from a small school.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on August 07, 2019, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 07, 2019, 06:06:58 AM
So they won the WIAA Division 5 state title game this past year in where he had 35 pts and 19 reb. Anyone able to find the game on the Internet? Sure would be nice to see him play his title game...
"Division 5" could mean the biggest schools or the smallest schools or somewhere in-between. Anybody know how Wisconsin sets up their class system? Guessing with those #'s in a state title game he is from a small school.
Your guess is correct. Division 5 is the smallest school sports division in Wisconsin, with enrollments of 200 kids or less per school. So those stats are similar to looking at Fazekas in their state title game. If you're a legit 6'8 D1 recruit (which I think he is), you should be able to dominate that level of competition basically every night.
Quote from: vu72 on August 06, 2019, 10:31:34 PM
Could be a steal!
https://www.htrnews.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2019/01/19/sam-dekker-sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-similar-coaches-say-high-school-basketball/2599369002/
Jacob doesn't even have to be a steal to get my vote. I love it that we landed yet another young, enthusiastic, moldable 4-year player who is almost certainly coming to Valpo for all the right reasons. This is what strategic, proactive recruiting looks like.
Quote from: wh on August 07, 2019, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 06, 2019, 10:31:34 PM
Could be a steal!
https://www.htrnews.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2019/01/19/sam-dekker-sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-similar-coaches-say-high-school-basketball/2599369002/
Jacob doesn't even have to be a steal to get my vote. I love it that we landed yet another young, enthusiastic, moldable 4-year player who is almost certainly coming to Valpo for all the right reasons. This is what strategic, proactive recruiting looks like.
Article says he had offers from Milwaukee, Green Bay, Indiana State, DePaul and UC Davis in addition to interest from Iowa, Creighton, Butler and Ohio State. It was written May 9 so probably other offers and this all after his Junior year. He may still be growing at 6'8+. It's sounding better and better. I wonder whether or not he attended one of Valpo's elite camps.
https://www.sheboyganpress.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2019/05/09/college-recruiting-sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-gets-offers/1135826001/
Observations from the 14th annual Rick Majerus WBY Shootout
01/01/2019, 11:30am CST
By Mark Miller
Brayden Dailey
Some observations from the 14th annual Rick Majerus Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook Shootout, held Thursday, Friday and Saturday at the Buuck Fieldhouse on the campus of Concordia University in Mequon:
Five Individual Standouts
Jacob Ognacevic, 6-7, F, Jr., Sheboygan Lutheran
College coaches at the NCAA Division I level were out in droves to watch Ognacevic, one of the fastest rising class of 2020 prospects in Wisconsin. An extremely productive and consistent forward who can hurt defenses from the perimeter, off the bounce and in the paint, Ognacevic helped Sheboygan Lutheran to wins over St. Thomas More and St. Mary's Springs, finishing with 32 points, 18 rebounds and 4 blocked shots against St. Mary's Springs, while adding 32 points and 18 rebounds in the win over St. Thomas More. Ognacevic is averaging 31.1 ppg and 15.6 rpg for Sheboygan Lutheran, the state's top-ranked WIAA Division 5 squad that improved to 10-0 on the campaign.
https://twitter.com/JeremiahOden/status/1159181134435102725?s=20
wh--hope we are able to Jacob. For us veterans on the board, feels like a potential Jon Diebler situation. Oral commits after junior year (one in the bag), keeps improving home state school comes along and steals him and I've disliked Thad Motta since. BTW the Bucks in TBT with Jon D are doing very well (and Jake is back on the bench as an assistant at OSU).
Jacob Ognacevic seems like a very good get. Valpo's very best recruiting and greatest player development success has been from guys who show good talent and seem to be mature and have a great work ethic. This was the case with Peters and Broekhoff and I believe may also be the case with Freeman.
If he had a great AAU summer and continues playing well in his senior season, he'll get inquiries from P5 + Big East schools. I can see Creighton and Iowa working to see if they can get him to change his mind and him getting inquiries from Marquette and Wisconsin.
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1159511551285628930
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1159656034807554050?s=20
Quote from: VU2014 on August 08, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1159656034807554050?s=20
As good as our beat reporters are, I don't ever recall anyone interviewing a "verbal commit" before. Instead, we're always scratching and clawing to learn more from some distant source from the time they commit until they sign their LOI. Then, the local guys jump in. Congrats to Robbie for breaking the mold!
Quote from: VUBBFan on August 08, 2019, 12:14:41 PM
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1159511551285628930
I could see him potentially as a 4, but he's going to need to get significantly quicker to play the 3, IMO. Also, given the roster makeup, he'll very likely have to play some time at the 5, and I think would be a bigger match up problem there than the 3 or the 4.
Guys who can play and ideally guard multiple positions is the wave of the future (present?)!
Quote from: wh on August 09, 2019, 05:56:19 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 08, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1159656034807554050?s=20
As good as our beat reporters are, I don't ever recall anyone interviewing a "verbal commit" before. Instead, we're always scratching and clawing to learn more from some distant source from the time they commit until they sign their LOI. Then, the local guys jump in. Congrats to Robbie for breaking the mold!
We often interview guys after they commit, but our editors in the past haven't often felt the need to publish those stories for one reason or another. Things are looking up now.
Quote from: Pgmado on August 09, 2019, 09:21:49 AM
Quote from: wh on August 09, 2019, 05:56:19 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 08, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1159656034807554050?s=20
As good as our beat reporters are, I don't ever recall anyone interviewing a "verbal commit" before. Instead, we're always scratching and clawing to learn more from some distant source from the time they commit until they sign their LOI. Then, the local guys jump in. Congrats to Robbie for breaking the mold!
We often interview guys after they commit, but our editors in the past haven't often felt the need to publish those stories for one reason or another. Things are looking up now.
Paul you and Todd did an outstanding job of evaluating the team and players (individually) before last years first games. Any chance that becomes an annual event for USH?
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1161678770660663296?s=21
Impressive young man. I love Chicago kids. The coaching is excellent, the competition is fierce, and the players are taught to love and respect the game. Doesn't get any better.
https://youtu.be/z61Q1kKlme0
I think Jacob will end up being a very stalwart, outstanding player for Valpo for
four years. Many years ago when the Big Eight was not the Big 12, we had
a 6'-5" center in our conference that came from a similar size school to Jacob's.
He won a scholarship to Missouri (in the days when freshman couldn't play) and
is one of only four Missouri players to average a double - double for his career. A few
years ago he was inducted into the Missouri sports hall of fame. By the way he
was a first round draft pick and played four years in the NBA. The forum won't let me
post an external link so do a Google search: Al Eberhard Missouri Sports Hall of Fame Inductee.
Jacob has a similar look, but taller, and same type of character.
Let no one despise humble beginnings.
Quote from: VU2014 on August 14, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1161678770660663296?s=21
Quote from: wh on August 14, 2019, 01:38:02 PM
Impressive young man. I love Chicago kids. The coaching is excellent, the competition is fierce, and the players are taught to love and respect the game. Doesn't get any better.
https://youtu.be/z61Q1kKlme0
I'm not going to pretend to predict where Jeremiah will eventually commit, but one thing I can share is that he does tend to like tweets/post about Valpo Basketball news. It may mean nothing but it's a positive sign that he has a good relationship with the coaches and some of the players.
Seems to be pretty talented as well
Not a Valpo get, but Gary product Jonelle Davis is committing to FAU.
I'd like to believe after going 4-0 in Canada over the past week including beating mighty Carleton we've done ourselves some good on the recruiting trail. Go Valpo!
Quote from: VU2014 on August 14, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1161678770660663296?s=21
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1128455058234933250?s=20
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1122994851472130054?s=20
How the Class of 2020's top 10 shapes up coming out of the summer. By Joe Henricksen Jul 15, 2019, 9:33am CDT
For the Sun-Times....
8. Jeremiah Williams, 6-3, St. LaurenceExtremely versatile and a true stat-sheet stuffer, Williams opens eyes with his physical attributes, production and upside. He uses his length to impact the game as a rebounder, finisher and defender. As his perimeter jumper becomes more consistent, the impact Williams provides will make an exciting jump forward.
The long, wiry, smooth guard has a host of mid-major programs heavily involved as Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Valparaiso, UW-Milwaukee, Northern Illinois and Akron have all offered.
... https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/15/20694648/dj-steward-whitney-young-duke-class-of-2020-top-ten-rankings-illinois-high-school-basketball
https://twitter.com/TBaranek/status/1076319580077871104?s=20
https://twitter.com/bballscoop1/status/1160217499029430275?s=21
Let's hope his final visit is with us.
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1162473957301391360
I have a good feeling about this upcoming visit
https://twitter.com/Bballscoop1/status/1163082346440134656?s=20
Another kid that Valpo was one of the very first in on his recruitment, but his recruitment blew up.
https://twitter.com/marcus3xx/status/1163995756170293248?s=20
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
I'm wondering how much of a pop this really had. It's must be somewhat significant enough for Coach to bring it up in an interview.
Carleton is the cream of the crop program in Canada and definitely is more we'll known by kids/coaches in Canada. So maybe it's more of an eye opener for them. Also helps that a Canadian kid hit an OT game winner in Canada and it made sportcenters Top 10. Brings a little more attention possibly.
Hopefully it opens a few doors for the Coaches.
Side Note: big recruiting weekend for Valpo with a Top 10 Illinois recruit coming in for his first official visit on Friday. Guys I have a good feeling about Jeremiah Williams
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
I'm wondering how much of a pop this really had. It's must be somewhat significant enough for Coach to bring it up in an interview.
Carleton is the cream of the crop program in Canada and definitely is more we'll known by kids/coaches in Canada. So maybe it's more of an eye opener for them. Also helps that a Canadian kid hit an OT game winner in Canada and it made sportcenters Top 10. Brings a little more attention possibly.
Hopefully it opens a few doors for the Coaches.
Side Note: big recruiting weekend for Valpo with a Top 10 Illinois recruit coming in for his first official visit on Friday. Guys I have a good feeling about Jeremiah Williams
So for those plugged in, is Jeremiah the same level as Javon?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 21, 2019, 06:13:56 PMSo for those plugged in, is Jeremiah the same level as Javon?
We'll see. Remember that both Javon and Donovan were First Team All Illinois players. If he is at that level, it would indeed be a wonderful get!
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
I'm wondering how much of a pop this really had. It's must be somewhat significant enough for Coach to bring it up in an interview.
Carleton is the cream of the crop program in Canada and definitely is more we'll known by kids/coaches in Canada. So maybe it's more of an eye opener for them. Also helps that a Canadian kid hit an OT game winner in Canada and it made sportcenters Top 10. Brings a little more attention possibly.
Hopefully it opens a few doors for the Coaches.
Side Note: big recruiting weekend for Valpo with a Top 10 Illinois recruit coming in for his first official visit on Friday. Guys I have a good feeling about Jeremiah Williams
Can you share the article where it ranks Top Illinois b-ball players? Tried finding a ranking and it was full of pay sites.
Quote from: vu72 on August 21, 2019, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 21, 2019, 06:13:56 PMSo for those plugged in, is Jeremiah the same level as Javon?
We'll see. Remember that both Javon and Donovan were First Team All Illinois players. If he is at that level, it would indeed be a wonderful get!
Just watching his Junior Year Highlights on MaxPreps . . . undoubtedly he has amazing leaping ability and athleticism. He is not as thick, but he reminds me of Tevonn Walker in that he has absolute springs for legs when it comes to rebounding or getting a put-back. It's amazing how quickly some of these athletes can re-energize and after JUST having jumped through the ceiling already.
Intriguing player, he has quite the body control and soft touch. For the aforementioned reasons I am sure he has not developed his outside shot as much because he gets around many of his defenders but on the surface I can see why you say Top 10 in Illinois seniors. (And I like his desire to defend and block shots, almost appears to have the reach of 6'7" player or at least greater than his reported 6'3" frame)
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jeremiah-williams/6G58_cY1EeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm?videoid=169dd4af-6507-4be5-8b6c-7352506c8498 (https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jeremiah-williams/6G58_cY1EeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm?videoid=169dd4af-6507-4be5-8b6c-7352506c8498)
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 21, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
I'm wondering how much of a pop this really had. It's must be somewhat significant enough for Coach to bring it up in an interview.
Carleton is the cream of the crop program in Canada and definitely is more we'll known by kids/coaches in Canada. So maybe it's more of an eye opener for them. Also helps that a Canadian kid hit an OT game winner in Canada and it made sportcenters Top 10. Brings a little more attention possibly.
Hopefully it opens a few doors for the Coaches.
Side Note: big recruiting weekend for Valpo with a Top 10 Illinois recruit coming in for his first official visit on Friday. Guys I have a good feeling about Jeremiah Williams
Can you share the article where it ranks Top Illinois b-ball players? Tried finding a ranking and it was full of pay sites.
Quote from: VU2014 on August 15, 2019, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 14, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1161678770660663296?s=21
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1128455058234933250?s=20
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1122994851472130054?s=20
How the Class of 2020's top 10 shapes up coming out of the summer.
By Joe Henricksen Jul 15, 2019, 9:33am CDT
For the Sun-Times
....
8. Jeremiah Williams, 6-3, St. Laurence
Extremely versatile and a true stat-sheet stuffer, Williams opens eyes with his physical attributes, production and upside. He uses his length to impact the game as a rebounder, finisher and defender. As his perimeter jumper becomes more consistent, the impact Williams provides will make an exciting jump forward.
The long, wiry, smooth guard has a host of mid-major programs heavily involved as Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Valparaiso, UW-Milwaukee, Northern Illinois and Akron have all offered.
... https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/15/20694648/dj-steward-whitney-young-duke-class-of-2020-top-ten-rankings-illinois-high-school-basketball
https://twitter.com/TBaranek/status/1076319580077871104?s=20
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 21, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
I'm wondering how much of a pop this really had. It's must be somewhat significant enough for Coach to bring it up in an interview.
Carleton is the cream of the crop program in Canada and definitely is more we'll known by kids/coaches in Canada. So maybe it's more of an eye opener for them. Also helps that a Canadian kid hit an OT game winner in Canada and it made sportcenters Top 10. Brings a little more attention possibly.
Hopefully it opens a few doors for the Coaches.
Side Note: big recruiting weekend for Valpo with a Top 10 Illinois recruit coming in for his first official visit on Friday. Guys I have a good feeling about Jeremiah Williams
Can you share the article where it ranks Top Illinois b-ball players? Tried finding a ranking and it was full of pay sites.
Quote from: VU2014 on August 15, 2019, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 14, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1161678770660663296?s=21
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1128455058234933250?s=20
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1122994851472130054?s=20
How the Class of 2020's top 10 shapes up coming out of the summer.
By Joe Henricksen Jul 15, 2019, 9:33am CDT
For the Sun-Times
....
8. Jeremiah Williams, 6-3, St. Laurence
Extremely versatile and a true stat-sheet stuffer, Williams opens eyes with his physical attributes, production and upside. He uses his length to impact the game as a rebounder, finisher and defender. As his perimeter jumper becomes more consistent, the impact Williams provides will make an exciting jump forward.
The long, wiry, smooth guard has a host of mid-major programs heavily involved as Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Valparaiso, UW-Milwaukee, Northern Illinois and Akron have all offered.
... https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/15/20694648/dj-steward-whitney-young-duke-class-of-2020-top-ten-rankings-illinois-high-school-basketball
https://twitter.com/TBaranek/status/1076319580077871104?s=20
Excellent, thanks. As you might be able to tell, I am not a social media enthusiast and avoid Twitter and FaceBook. I now see why I miss most of the information on these recruits!!! My idea of social media is LinkedIn and various forums / texting!!!
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 21, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 21, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
https://twitter.com/michaelosipoff/status/1164197518995009536?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1164195520518266880?s=21
I'm wondering how much of a pop this really had. It's must be somewhat significant enough for Coach to bring it up in an interview.
Carleton is the cream of the crop program in Canada and definitely is more we'll known by kids/coaches in Canada. So maybe it's more of an eye opener for them. Also helps that a Canadian kid hit an OT game winner in Canada and it made sportcenters Top 10. Brings a little more attention possibly.
Hopefully it opens a few doors for the Coaches.
Side Note: big recruiting weekend for Valpo with a Top 10 Illinois recruit coming in for his first official visit on Friday. Guys I have a good feeling about Jeremiah Williams
Can you share the article where it ranks Top Illinois b-ball players? Tried finding a ranking and it was full of pay sites.
Quote from: VU2014 on August 15, 2019, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 14, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1161678770660663296?s=21
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1128455058234933250?s=20
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1122994851472130054?s=20
How the Class of 2020's top 10 shapes up coming out of the summer.
By Joe Henricksen Jul 15, 2019, 9:33am CDT
For the Sun-Times
....
8. Jeremiah Williams, 6-3, St. Laurence
Extremely versatile and a true stat-sheet stuffer, Williams opens eyes with his physical attributes, production and upside. He uses his length to impact the game as a rebounder, finisher and defender. As his perimeter jumper becomes more consistent, the impact Williams provides will make an exciting jump forward.
The long, wiry, smooth guard has a host of mid-major programs heavily involved as Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Valparaiso, UW-Milwaukee, Northern Illinois and Akron have all offered.
... https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/15/20694648/dj-steward-whitney-young-duke-class-of-2020-top-ten-rankings-illinois-high-school-basketball
https://twitter.com/TBaranek/status/1076319580077871104?s=20
Interesting news regarding 2020 recruit Jeremiah William's. He is transfering from St. Laurence to CPL Simeon HS per Joe Henricksen @joehoopsreport. Not sure if that changes anything in terms of Valpo recruiting him. Must think CPL offers better competition or visibility than where he was playing.
"Big news in the Public League as Jeremiah Williams, one of the the top 10 seniors in Illinois, has officially enrolled at Simeon. Williams had a monster season at St Laurence last year as a junior and is a coveted mid-major prospect."
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https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1164693122997264384?s=20
I'll be honest, I don't feel confident about our chances if his recruitment goes passed this Fall. This is a big move and obviously signals he may want to grow his recruitment. It wouldn't be the first time a new high profile HS coaches steers a kid in a different direction.
https://twitter.com/CoachTreal2/status/1164235270172094464?s=20
Yep. This is shaping up as pure meat market recruitment.
Yeah, I think we're lucky Javon and DClay's recruitment blew up later in the process when we already had a good relationship with them.
A link to an article in the Chicago Suntimes about Jeremiah Williams recruiting and changing high schools his senior season. I notice he also has an official visit scheduled with Northern Iowa. Hoping that visit gets cancelled after this weekend!
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/8/21/20826956/jeremiah-williams-transfers-st-laurence-simeon-basketball
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I hope the visit is going well
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1165418492163739649?s=20
Yellow Bat? Yellow Bat?
Quote from: govalpogo on August 24, 2019, 08:10:58 PM
Yellow Bat? Yellow Bat?
I don't think there is a brown color emoji offered on Twitter but they do have gold (yellow)
Quote from: VU2014 on August 24, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1165418492163739649?s=20
I assume all Official Visits have this photo shoot or photo shopped picture? So I'm not reading much into this...or should I be?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on August 25, 2019, 08:10:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 24, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1165418492163739649?s=20
I assume all Official Visits have this photo shoot or photo shopped picture? So I'm not reading much into this...or should I be?
I think fairly common, still not a bad sign that he posted the pics though.
I am still confused about what the bat emoji means.
It sounds like Jeremiah Williams won't be committing within the next few days. He has visits lined up with Akron and UNI. UNI just had a PG recruit commit, fwiw. Jeremiah is a combo guard. The longer his recruitment goes on the less confident I get about him signing with VU.
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1165713761673588740?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1165767685822717952
Quote from: VUBBFan on August 25, 2019, 06:39:49 PM
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1165767685822717952
Any chance you can copy and paste the VU portion. Not going to sign up.
If he's taking a second trip to Akron I'm willing to bet that's likely where he'll be going. How many kids take a second trip to a school they don't end up committing to?
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 25, 2019, 09:22:12 PM
If he's taking a second trip to Akron I'm willing to bet that's likely where he'll be going. How many kids take a second trip to a school they don't end up committing to?
Is a 2nd trip to Akron in the interview on Prep Hoops Illinois that we can't read unless becoming a member of that subscription recruiting service? I took that info to mean Akron would be his 2nd official visit...with Valpo being the first?
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I also took it to mean Akron was his second official visit with valpo being the first and not that he's had two to Akron.
I would hope we could get him over Akron.
Quote from: valpolaw on August 25, 2019, 09:49:23 PM
I also took it to mean Akron was his second official visit with valpo being the first and not that he's had two to Akron.
I would hope we could get him over Akron.
You are correct. His visit list shouldn't scare anyone at this point, but Valpo's visit probably doesn't scare Akron or UNI at the moment either. Even if he takes the other visits, I do think Valpo still has a solid shot to land him. Just my opinion.
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1166499953289629696?s=20
So I see that the picture of him in the Valpo uniform is just a thing that is standard procedure during recruiting visits It's clear that he is very seriously considering VU\ other MVC schools and may well land in the MVC somewhere but it may not be with us.
St. Louis PG recruit that Valpo offered last year committed to SEMO.
Valpo seemed to have some "higher" priority recruits they have been recruiting recently.
https://twitter.com/phill_x2/status/1168632721276579842?s=21
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1169998266504744962?s=21
https://twitter.com/jeremiahoden/status/1150218877667860480?s=21
Oden has offers from U South Dakota, Drake, ISUr, Western Michigan and Valpo from what I can see on his Twitter page.
Jeremiah Williams has a visit at Akron this weekend. I'd be lying if I said I hope it went well there...
I'm a believer in Jeremiah Williams
https://twitter.com/jeremiah0002/status/1169973154644668418?s=21
https://twitter.com/marques_warrick/status/1170842653560385536?s=21
Any intel on how the Oden official visit went this weekend? A 6-8 forward with the right skillset would be a nice addition. I notice and like how we now are recruiting more players other MVC schools are also recruiting. Hope we see the benefits of that in coming years.
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Former Valpo offer
https://twitter.com/riv_isaiah/status/1171174124384862214?s=21
Apparently this kid can really light up.
https://twitter.com/timedmonds_/status/1171089099551363073?s=21
Another former valpo offer bites the dust...
These Valpo offers are committing rapidly at a high pace
https://twitter.com/i_b_ballin22/status/1171582946521899008?s=20
We are losing a lot of recruiting battles to Loyola. A lot has changed since 2013 when they were admitted to the MVC. I'm not terribly surprised that we are losing out to Mountain West schools, the perception of that league is higher than the MVC generally speaking. I don't know if it's the quality of the programs the presence of FBS football or both.
Not unexpected. Not a reason in the world anyone would choose us over Loyola right now.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on September 10, 2019, 08:15:46 PM
Not unexpected. Not a reason in the world anyone would choose us over Loyola right now.
The only thing that will change it will be a VU win/loss record against Loyola in the MVC like VU had against Loyola in the HL. Ideally, building that record starts soon.
Maybe winning a tournament game or two sometime this century so we can stop resting on glory that happened before these recruits were even born.
I just have this gut feeling the longer his recruitment lasts the less likely he is to land at Valpo.
Valpo has made him a top priority recruit showing him a ton of love and time on the recruiting trail.
Fingers crossed he chooses to play his college ball at Valpo.
https://twitter.com/wincity10/status/1172188056998297602?s=21
Schools like Missouri jumping in is a terrible sign for that. I hope we get him too but it really doesn't look good. I hope the coaching staff are still working hard to land him though.
https://twitter.com/joehoopsreport/status/1176645588848394246?s=21
I'm not sure this is a good sign on the Jeremiah Williams recruitment front. Ironically he liked the tweet
Maybe Connor Bennett turns out to be a sleeper. Nice to hear he's a shooter
From Connor Barrett's twitter.....visit is this weekend.
https://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/1176281402213580800?s=19
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https://twitter.com/SCF_Basketball/status/1174067780200652800?s=20
Good to see we're putting a lot of work in. Hopefully it pays off in a strong recruiting class soon. However, I think our results on the floor will have a huge impact on our ability to recruit and establish ourselves in the MVC. I really hate to use the phrase "Make or break year" this year for us but it kinda feels like one.
Valpo recruiting target Jacob Hutson from Edina, MN chooses Loyola. Valpo was recruiting him also per Verbal Commits.
So Loyola for 2020 gets 2 recruits Valpo was also in on, Baylor Hebb and now Jacob Hutson. Winning and recent success I'm sure make it tough for Valpo right now in head to head recruiting with the Ramblers. I say to myself "patience grasshopper". Valpo will improve and win some of these recruits over.
COMMITTED! #goramblers https://t.co/fGbL53cCfO
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Damn... Loyola wins another recruiting battle. Shouldn't be surprising right now but I want to see us win some recruiting battles
https://twitter.com/minnehutjr/status/1177563283748007938?s=21
Gotta win some on-court battles first... Recruits like competing for championships and NCAA Tournament berths.
Quote from: vufan75 on September 24, 2019, 08:46:11 PM
From Connor Barrett's twitter.....visit is this weekend.
https://twitter.com/BrewsterHoops/status/1176281402213580800?s=19
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The staff must really like him if he is getting a homecoming weekend visit. This weekend has been reserved for recruits that they've really pursued pretty hard in the past.
It will be interesting to see if there is any news in the coming days. It's my understanding that he's playing his last year of HS at a prep school so he clearly has his sights set on expanding his recruitment, so maybe he wants to land at a high major. He's been getting attention at the lower major and mid major level
Quote from: VU2014 on September 27, 2019, 05:41:52 PM
Damn... Loyola wins another recruiting battle. Shouldn't be surprising right now but I want to see us win some recruiting battles
https://twitter.com/minnehutjr/status/1177563283748007938?s=21
Javon Freeman-Liberty, Zion Morgan and Nick Robinson were all recruited by Loyola. Donovan Clay flew completely under Loyola's radar. Eron Gordon and Ryan Fazekas never considered Loyola out of high school, or when they transferred, thanks to a great job by Valpo of connecting with both when they were in high school.
Valparaiso is holding its own just fine, thank you.
Quote from: wh on September 28, 2019, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 27, 2019, 05:41:52 PM
Damn... Loyola wins another recruiting battle. Shouldn't be surprising right now but I want to see us win some recruiting battles
https://twitter.com/minnehutjr/status/1177563283748007938?s=21
Javon Freeman-Liberty, Zion Morgan and Nick Robinson were all recruited by Loyola. Donovan Clay flew completely under Loyola's radar. Eron Gordon and Ryan Fazekas never considered Loyola out of high school, or when they transferred, thanks to a great job by Valpo of connecting with both when they were in high school.
Valparaiso is holding its own just fine, thank you.
We have to win for that statement to hold the water I hope it holds!
https://twitter.com/connorbarrett11/status/1178814347084288000?s=21
While some players we have offered committed elsewhere we give out another offer.
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1178863133177331712
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1178870408289894400
Quote from: VUBBFan on September 30, 2019, 10:14:07 PM
[tweet]1178870408289894400[/tweet]
Seeing #25 hitting 3-pointers brought back fond memories. ;)
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1179440731922010113
Love the quick shot release as well as the valpo-esque double team he was part of in the highlight...hopefully the speed and athleticism are there too. Can't have too many shooters!
Very glad to see the hard work that Matt and his staff have done is paying dividends. Congratulations to Connor and the VU staff!
Quote from: M on October 02, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Love the quick shot release as well as the valpo-esque double team he was part of in the highlight...hopefully the speed and athleticism are there too. Can't have too many shooters!
His off hand (left) ball handling looks very solid. If he has the speed to defend the Valley he should be a winner! Coming in he reminds me a bit of a stronger Clay Yeo. If that is true I hope he doesn't get homesick for his girlfriend and decide to transfer. :'( :'(
Quote from: M on October 02, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Love the quick shot release as well as the valpo-esque double team he was part of in the highlight...hopefully the speed and athleticism are there too. Can't have too many shooters!
Was reading an article from March 2018 that listed him as "6-foot-3 Barrett, who wears size-15 shoes, won't be surprised if he grows a couple more inches". Does anyone have current vital stats for Connor? Love the release, but selfishly hoping he has grown those couple more inches.
Quote from: FWalum on October 02, 2019, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: M on October 02, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Love the quick shot release as well as the valpo-esque double team he was part of in the highlight...hopefully the speed and athleticism are there too. Can't have too many shooters!
Was reading an article from March 2018 that listed him as "6-foot-3 Barrett, who wears size-15 shoes, won't be surprised if he grows a couple more inches". Does anyone have current vital stats for Connor? Love the release, but selfishly hoping he has grown those couple more inches.
I think he looks bigger as well. I found a couple of articles saying 6'4". Here is a video from just a couple of weeks a go in ope gym:
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=conner+barrett+basketball#id=2&vid=56fdae2fa7c6b0cf6be86ed1f308790c&action=view
Verbal commits has him currently listed as 6'5". Michael Osipoff's article lists him as 6'6"
https://twitter.com/PostTrib/status/1179535746014892033
At this rate he'll be 7 feet by the time he gets to campus.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on October 02, 2019, 10:06:16 PM
At this rate he'll be 7 feet by the time he gets to campus.
I hope not! We haven't had much luck with our 7 footers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxh9NOZFMX0&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3SRpmBHutcmdVGNtIHQvlc4Rwv4fdVY0a58LmVI4x8-RkrM4bEiL5ojU8
Davis, a kid I've mentioned a lot here but looks like he is heading D2 (was referred by one of VU's assistants to the coach at Lewis University) is in the white under shirt. Another kid to keep an eye on is freshman Ashton Williamson. He's about 6'2ish and is a pg. He's in the reddish colored shorts, usually going from right to left in the video.
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 02, 2019, 07:44:54 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTrib/status/1179535746014892033
Nice to see Valpo getting some early commits, instead of scrambling in the spring to fill spots. Has the makings of a very solid class, IMO.
You can never go wrong signing guys who can shoot it. My only concern is the injury history with Barrett.
Really like the sound of mentality and make up. May not be the most athletic but if plays good D, can shoot it, team guy, brings the effort and is intelligent, he could become a really nice player.
Former Loyola Academy sharpshooter Barrett is second recruit to join the Crusaders
News of Barrett's decision spread quickly after he tweeted out his commitment on Wednesday morning. Chicago recruiting analyst Joe Henricksen has followed Barrett for much of the last four years and believes the Crusaders landed a steal.
"I give credit to (Valparaiso coach) Matt (Lottich) and the staff," Henricksen said. "They didn't beat out a ton of people right now for Connor, but the interest was only going to grow. If (Barrett) had played out this season, with shooting such a hot commodity, he would've been hit hard with offers down the road. This was a great job by Matt."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/former-loyola-academy-sharpshooter-barrett-is-second-recruit-to-join/article_67c8c7d9-d3db-566d-b662-3d62f39c284e.amp.html
Quote from: valpo1995 on June 19, 2019, 11:57:12 AM
Long time board reader & lurker...
Wanted to bring attention to Connor Linke 6'9" PF from St Charles North (IL). His parents are both alumni, mom Jenny Walton played Volleyball in early 90's. Just picked up an offer from Army West Point. Not sure if can compete at MVC level but seems a bit under the radar with his connection to the University.
Nice video on his verbal commits page. I can't post a link but you can Google "verbal commits connor linke"
Surprised we didn't get in on this kid once Bradley offered.
Connor Linke (@TallGuyLinke)
10/29/19, 9:36 AM
I have officially committed to Bradley University!!! #GoBraves
pic.twitter.com/I4eMOYickh
Valpo1995,
You brought up Connor Linke a few months ago on this thread. He just committed to Bradley.
You also mentioned his parents were Valpo alums.
https://twitter.com/joehoopsreport/status/1189220799636484101?s=21
Quote from: VU2014 on October 29, 2019, 03:14:08 PMValpo1995, You brought up Connor Linke a few months ago on this thread. He just committed to Bradley. You also mentioned his parents were Valpo alums. [tweet]1189220799636484101[/tweet]?s=21
The missing Linke.
We missed that one.
Quote from: Just Sayin on October 30, 2019, 02:44:58 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 29, 2019, 03:14:08 PMValpo1995, You brought up Connor Linke a few months ago on this thread. He just committed to Bradley. You also mentioned his parents were Valpo alums. [tweet]1189220799636484101[/tweet]?s=21
The missing Linke.
We missed that one.
I think I remember reading that we were involved (might have even took a unofficial visit), but didn't offer. Idk, we'll see how he turns out. We can't have them all. Remember many wanted the Valpo coaches to offer Taylor Bruninga (including myself) and he hasn't been able to stay on the court because of health at ISUr. He had some Peters' family connections and took more than one unofficial visit at Valpo but we ultimately didn't offer.
Idk, we'll see
Quote from: VU2014 on November 02, 2019, 08:48:31 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on October 30, 2019, 02:44:58 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 29, 2019, 03:14:08 PMValpo1995, You brought up Connor Linke a few months ago on this thread. He just committed to Bradley. You also mentioned his parents were Valpo alums. [tweet]1189220799636484101[/tweet]?s=21
The missing Linke.
We missed that one.
I think I remember reading that we were involved (might have even took a unofficial visit), but didn't offer. Idk, we'll see how he turns out. We can't have them all. Remember many wanted the Valpo coaches to offer Taylor Bruninga (including myself) and he hasn't been able to stay on the court because of health at ISUr. He had some Peters' family connections and took more than one unofficial visit at Valpo but we ultimately didn't offer.
Idk, we'll see
That doesn't mean the Taylor Bruninga decision not to offer might come back to haunt us in the next few seasons.
Whoa, snuck this one in on us! Recruiting class is full then (Potential transfers not withstanding)? A 6'4" guard.
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1194067290398040065
Quote from: govalpogo on November 11, 2019, 08:07:37 PM
Whoa, snuck this one in on us! Recruiting class is full then (Potential transfers not withstanding)? A 6'4" guard.
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1194067290398040065
Why is recruiting class full?
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Because that's all the scholarships unless (until) someone transfers after the year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssBfBQYHvYs&feature=share
Makes some of the longest 3's you will ever see.
Sheldon averaged 21.1 PPG last year. Shot 52% from 2, 36% from 3, and 82% from the line.
Luka Doncic range. That dude has begun taking 3's from wherever he wants, a la Steph Curry. Anytime someone can hit a step-back 3, you have to be excited!
The line between the top of the key and center court is 28'. So, his 2 shots behind that line were about 29' away. His others close to the line but angled left or right were probably 26-27' or so. That's crazy.
Quote from: wh on November 12, 2019, 07:01:26 AM
The line between the top of the key and center court is 28'. So, his 2 shots behind that line were about 29' away. His others close to the line but angled left or right were probably 26-27' or so. That's crazy.
Difficult to make accurate judgements from highlight reels, but does that not concern any of you? I'm only pulling from recent memory but the last VU player to have the green light from Greenland was Micah Bradford and his freshman year was a bit taxing. Either way, nice to see another guy 6'4" or taller added to the roster.
P.S. He seems like more of a bruiser, his slashing plays reminded me more of Eron Gordon than Shane Hammink.
Just from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud.
I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic.
Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
So two of the three recruits come from prep schools. That helps in that they are a year older and have had time to not only work on their game but also to mature and get ready for college academics. Wonder how we got in on this kid. Looks strong and very athletic. A Valley player for sure.
Quote from: M on November 11, 2019, 10:15:05 PM
Because that's all the scholarships unless (until) someone transfers after the year.
Don't we have 12 on scholarship now? Subtract two graduating seniors, we should have three remaining scholarships for next year, right?
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Yes we have 3 scholarships open and 3 players that have verbally committed. Jacob Ognacevic a 6'8 forward from Sheboygan, WI. Connor Barrett a 6'6 guard from Chicago who is at a prep school in the East. Sheldon Edwards a 6'4 guard from West Palm Beach who is at a prep school in Florida. Looks like a good recruiting class with some very good 3 point shooters which we need. Good to see Lotich hitting Chicago and getting these early signing period committs.
Quote from: RS on November 12, 2019, 09:36:30 AM
Yes we have 3 scholarships open and 3 players that have verbally committed. Jacob Ognacevic a 6'8 forward from Sheboygan, WI. Connor Barrett a 6'6 guard from Chicago who is at a prep school in the East. Sheldon Edwards a 6'4 guard from West Palm Beach who is at a prep school in Florida. Looks like a good recruiting class with some very good 3 point shooters which we need. Good to see Lotich hitting Chicago and getting these early signing period committs.
None of our recruits are Chicago Public League guys. Not saying that's a negative. I'm just pointing it out. Barrett played in the Catholic League (still good basketball / now playing prep).
The only reason I point it out is because there is a pretty clear distinction. Recruiting the CPL (Chicago Public League) is much trickier and more difficult, because there are basketball politics involved and relationships are everything.
I'm sure the staff will keep recruiting, letting players know they're interested if existing players transfer.
It will be interesting to see how the staff handles mid-year transfers. They technically have a scholarship open for the 2nd half of this year, so they could sign under the assumption that at least one player from this year's roster will transfer. I hate that attitude, but it's a reality in mid-major basketball today.
I'd especially keep an eye on the 3 redshirt juniors who are likely to be graduating in the spring. Hope Lottich is already re-recruiting them to stay for their senior years.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: RS on November 12, 2019, 09:36:30 AM
Yes we have 3 scholarships open and 3 players that have verbally committed. Jacob Ognacevic a 6'8 forward from Sheboygan, WI. Connor Barrett a 6'6 guard from Chicago who is at a prep school in the East. Sheldon Edwards a 6'4 guard from West Palm Beach who is at a prep school in Florida. Looks like a good recruiting class with some very good 3 point shooters which we need. Good to see Lotich hitting Chicago and getting these early signing period committs.
None of our recruits are Chicago Public League guys. Not saying that's a negative. I'm just pointing it out. Barrett played in the Catholic League (still good basketball / now playing prep).
The only reason I point it out is because there is a pretty clear distinction. Recruiting the CPL (Chicago Public League) is much trickier and more difficult, because there are basketball politics involved and relationships are everything.
To quote our enlightening and so wise and endearing President, "What the hell is going on in Chicago? What the hell is happening there?"
""The city of Chicago. What the hell is going on in Chicago? There are those who say that Afghanistan is safer than Chicago, okay? What is going on? You know what's wrong with Chicago? Weak, ineffective politicians."
Why would we recruit Chicago when there are weak, ineffective politicians who run the CPS? Why do we want Chicago kids like Javon Freeman, Nick Robinson & Zion Morgan who are part of the problem in Chicago Public Schools?
Please see that this post is dripping with sarcasm.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Just from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud.
I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic.
Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
Anyone else curious why Sheldon Edwards average 21 ppg 7 rpg 3 steals and 2 apg....and had to go to prep school out of high school? And all this in the biggest class in FL (7A/8A)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp)
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 13, 2019, 05:52:46 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Just from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud.
I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic.
Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
Anyone else curious why Sheldon Edwards average 21 ppg 7 rpg 3 steals and 2 apg....and had to go to prep school out of high school? And all this in the biggest class in FL (7A/8A)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp)
I suppose that he was only getting interest from high majors and he wanted a different fit! Just kidding of course. I have no idea but it is a very valid question. On the surface we got a big time stud--but why?? Could have been an academic issue or a guy with talent who wasn't as focused on academics as he needed to be or, perhaps an injury of some sort that get the other schools to back off. Anyway, what is our connection? How did we find this kid in the first place?
Quote from: vu72 on November 13, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 13, 2019, 05:52:46 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Just from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud.
I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic.
Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
Anyone else curious why Sheldon Edwards average 21 ppg 7 rpg 3 steals and 2 apg....and had to go to prep school out of high school? And all this in the biggest class in FL (7A/8A)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp)
I suppose that he was only getting interest from high majors and he wanted a different fit! Just kidding of course. I have no idea but it is a very valid question. On the surface we got a big time stud--but why?? Could have been an academic issue or a guy with talent who wasn't as focused on academics as he needed to be or, perhaps an injury of some sort that get the other schools to back off. Anyway, what is our connection? How did we find this kid in the first place?
As close a connection as I could find (and its a stretch) is his current coach played in the Austrian Pro League 2 years after Matt played in the German League.
Found this in an article about a basketball camp performance, written in May, 2018:
West Palm Lakes (FL) – Sheldon Edwards – Wellington Wolves
From the first Friday of the live period until the final Sunday, Edwards consistently led all scorers in his matchups every time out. He put together multiple 20-point performances with the Wellington Wolves organization at both On the Radar Sweet 16 sessions; doing so in several ways. The combo guard has long arms and caused havoc in the backcourt defensively for quick lay-ups and on the offensive end he remained aggressive with acrobatic finishes and looked comfortable pulling up game from the mid-range and three-point area. Edwards has a great mind as a passer anticipated and found teammates off of offensive rebounds and assisted easy finishes in transition.
Quote from: wh on November 13, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 13, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 13, 2019, 05:52:46 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Just from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud.
I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic.
Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
Anyone else curious why Sheldon Edwards average 21 ppg 7 rpg 3 steals and 2 apg....and had to go to prep school out of high school? And all this in the biggest class in FL (7A/8A)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp)
I suppose that he was only getting interest from high majors and he wanted a different fit! Just kidding of course. I have no idea but it is a very valid question. On the surface we got a big time stud--but why?? Could have been an academic issue or a guy with talent who wasn't as focused on academics as he needed to be or, perhaps an injury of some sort that get the other schools to back off. Anyway, what is our connection? How did we find this kid in the first place?
As close a connection as I could find (and its a stretch) is his current coach played in the Austrian Pro League 2 years after Matt played in the German League.
That is one of the funniest things I've read in a long time...thank you for that!!! 😆🤓🥳
Quote from: vu72 on November 13, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 13, 2019, 05:52:46 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Just from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud.
I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic.
Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
Anyone else curious why Sheldon Edwards average 21 ppg 7 rpg 3 steals and 2 apg....and had to go to prep school out of high school? And all this in the biggest class in FL (7A/8A)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp)
I suppose that he was only getting interest from high majors and he wanted a different fit! Just kidding of course. I have no idea but it is a very valid question. On the surface we got a big time stud--but why?? Could have been an academic issue or a guy with talent who wasn't as focused on academics as he needed to be or, perhaps an injury of some sort that get the other schools to back off. Anyway, what is our connection? How did we find this kid in the first place?
Also, when is the last time we had 3/3 or 100% available slots filled this early for the following year? Here we are Nov 13th and 3/3 committed or signed...
And, beginning with Daniel and Javon, 9 of the last 10 recruits have been true Freshmen.
Quote from: wh on November 14, 2019, 03:45:58 AM
And, beginning with Daniel and Javon, 9 of the last 10 recruits have been true Freshmen.
Solid point. I suppose the pendulum swung hard towards true freshman after having a handful of bad results with some transfers?? Some of that has got to be watching (2) healthy players sit for consecutive years while their transfer penance was paid.
We surely could have used Joe Burton in year one with the program. I'd also suspect the coaches would want character guys like Eron Gordon and Nick Robinson to get big minutes on last years team as well!
Quote from: vu72 on November 13, 2019, 12:57:35 PMQuote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 13, 2019, 05:52:46 AMQuote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2019, 08:47:32 AMJust from the tape you can see the raw ability the coaches saw. He seems like a big body for a high school senior. I honestly have no clue. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud. I'm more curious on what this means for the roster construction. Our front will be made up of Mileek, Emil, Clay (versatile player), Krikke, Ognacevic. Some of those guys can play 3-4 hopefully.
Anyone else curious why Sheldon Edwards average 21 ppg 7 rpg 3 steals and 2 apg....and had to go to prep school out of high school? And all this in the biggest class in FL (7A/8A) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/fl-sp-7a-8a-all-state-hoops-20190425-story.html%3foutputType=amp)
I suppose that he was only getting interest from high majors and he wanted a different fit! Just kidding of course. I have no idea but it is a very valid question. On the surface we got a big time stud--but why?? Could have been an academic issue or a guy with talent who wasn't as focused on academics as he needed to be or, perhaps an injury of some sort that get the other schools to back off. Anyway, what is our connection? How did we find this kid in the first place?
Lottich said they were looking at another kid and this kid was lighting it up.
Jacob off to a strong start this season!
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm
Quote from: vu72 on December 03, 2019, 03:44:29 PM
Jacob off to a strong start this season!
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm
You have to endure about 5 long commercials sandwiched between short video clips before you get rewarded with 5 non-stop Jacob highlight minutes. It's worth the wait!
Go easy on them. They just got the internet in Wisconsin like 3 years ago.
Quote from: wh on December 07, 2019, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 03, 2019, 03:44:29 PM
Jacob off to a strong start this season!
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm
You have to endure about 5 long commercials sandwiched between short video clips before you get rewarded with 5 non-stop Jacob highlight minutes. It's worth the wait!
I must say I am excited to see we have 3 signed already as they enter their final years of high school/prep school. But I cannot help but look over their Verbal Commits page and notice that Connor and Sheldon have no other offers "closed". And that Jacob is the only one of the three incoming freshmen next year that had at least other D1 school recruiting him.
Might be the early nature of their signing took away a lot of offers this fall, but I dunno . . .
Either we have begun to accept our lot as perennial also ran in this conference or we simply got in early. I'm not confident we would beat many regional D1s in comparable conferences right now. It seems like every time we go head to head against another MVC school we lose. We need to step it up on the floor and become one of the credits to and leaders of this conference if we want to realize the full benefits of membership in the MVC. I'm still not sure or convinced that that's something this university is interested in. It feels like we got into our dream conference our forever home and then put our feet up and decided we don't need to strive for any more than what we have. I hope they prove me wrong in the future but I am not optimistic right now at all.
I like following recruiting. It's a nice preview of coming attractions. But we don't have a clue how these kids will turn out. Right now a former walk on is arguably our third best player. What that portends for conference play is to be seen.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on December 07, 2019, 10:17:33 PM
I like following recruiting. It's a nice preview of coming attractions. But we don't have a clue how these kids will turn out. Right now a former walk on is arguably our third best player. What that portends for conference play is to be seen.
I think we have to give our coaches credit for getting in early on kids and staying with them as their skills grow and blossom. I think that is what happened with Jacob who will be/is a top 5 player coming out of Wisconsin. Think of Donovan who grew a bunch late and was something like a top 125 kid in Illinois going into his senior year and finished as a 1st team all state guy.
It's really baffling how people could complain about our recruiting the past few years. Javon and Clay were top players out of Illinois. The freshman class clearly has a lot of potential. Sackey is a starting point guard as a sophomore, and has shown that he is deserving of that. He's not perfect, but he's only a sophomore. Jacob Ognacevic goes to the same school Sam Dekker did and is breaking his records while receiving praise from Sams dad. The guy from Florida can score against good competition. I love John Kiser and he is very important because of his consistency, rebounding, and hustling, but he's not the third best player on the team, and if he is it's because the other candidates are underclassmen that aren't consistent yet.
Quote from: vok22 on December 08, 2019, 09:26:05 AM
It's really baffling how people could complain about our recruiting the past few years. Javon and Clay were top players out of Illinois. The freshman class clearly has a lot of potential. Sackey is a starting point guard as a sophomore, and has shown that he is deserving of that. He's not perfect, but he's only a sophomore. Jacob Ognacevic goes to the same school Sam Dekker did and is breaking his records while receiving praise from Sams dad. The guy from Florida can score against good competition. I love John Kiser and he is very important because of his consistency, rebounding, and hustling, but he's not the third best player on the team, and if he is it's because the other candidates are underclassmen that aren't consistent yet.
Good positive post. I agree with every word.
Quote from: wh on December 08, 2019, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: vok22 on December 08, 2019, 09:26:05 AM
It's really baffling how people could complain about our recruiting the past few years. Javon and Clay were top players out of Illinois. The freshman class clearly has a lot of potential. Sackey is a starting point guard as a sophomore, and has shown that he is deserving of that. He's not perfect, but he's only a sophomore. Jacob Ognacevic goes to the same school Sam Dekker did and is breaking his records while receiving praise from Sams dad. The guy from Florida can score against good competition. I love John Kiser and he is very important because of his consistency, rebounding, and hustling, but he's not the third best player on the team, and if he is it's because the other candidates are underclassmen that aren't consistent yet.
Good positive post. I agree with every word.
No argument here regarding the current roster and solid recruiting. I think it's ok to bring up questions about a bunch of "unknown" players that truly never got recruited heavily on paper. Was sort of hoping someone could contribute more buzz around these three young men. I like Ognacevic tenacity in his high light reals and he did seem to get other mid-major interests. I don't think any of us have much information on our two prep-school recruits in Connor Barrett and Sheldon Edwards. I think what I like most about them is they will have had another year of maturing off the court and on before entering our program.
P.S. It was cool seeing a good number of former player walking around the Arc today. Even say Jason Hawkins make his way over to Bryce Drew. Nice to see alumni keeping tight in with the university.
Interesting article about athletes signing Letters of Intent at Brewster Academy, among them is our Conner Barrett. The really interesting part is who he was playing with! Others signed to play at Kentucky, Syracuse, Miami, Boston College, Minnesota and Maryland! Wow! What a team and great that Conner got the experience of playing with and practicing against such talent! May be a real sleeper!
https://www.laconiadailysun.com/community/announcements/record-breaking-letter-of-intent-signing-at-brewster/article_13669d2a-2102-11ea-8e58-a7954a67a304.html
Quote from: vu72 on December 24, 2019, 09:02:41 AM
Interesting article about athletes signing Letters of Intent at Brewster Academy, among them is our Conner Barrett. The really interesting part is who he was playing with! Others signed to play at Kentucky, Syracuse, Miami, Boston College, Minnesota and Maryland! Wow! What a team and great that Conner got the experience of playing with and practicing against such talent! May be a real sleeper!
https://www.laconiadailysun.com/community/announcements/record-breaking-letter-of-intent-signing-at-brewster/article_13669d2a-2102-11ea-8e58-a7954a67a304.html
This could be a reflection of what is wrong with high school basketball. At least half of those guys are going to be complete busts, but their parents paid the money to get them into the right private schools and into the right AAU programs. A cult up personality type situation. You are a 3, 4, 5, star recruit because of where you play, not necessarily because you are actually any better than a lot of guys who are multi-sport public school kids.
I hope he is really good, but it seems to me like we have better luck with under the radar kids who don't get a lot of recruiting attention.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on December 24, 2019, 11:06:05 AM
Quote from: vu72 on December 24, 2019, 09:02:41 AM
Interesting article about athletes signing Letters of Intent at Brewster Academy, among them is our Conner Barrett. The really interesting part is who he was playing with! Others signed to play at Kentucky, Syracuse, Miami, Boston College, Minnesota and Maryland! Wow! What a team and great that Conner got the experience of playing with and practicing against such talent! May be a real sleeper!
https://www.laconiadailysun.com/community/announcements/record-breaking-letter-of-intent-signing-at-brewster/article_13669d2a-2102-11ea-8e58-a7954a67a304.html
This could be a reflection of what is wrong with high school basketball. At least half of those guys are going to be complete busts, but their parents paid the money to get them into the right private schools and into the right AAU programs. A cult up personality type situation. You are a 3, 4, 5, star recruit because of where you play, not necessarily because you are actually any better than a lot of guys who are multi-sport public school kids.
I hope he is really good, but it seems to me like we have better luck with under the radar kids who don't get a lot of recruiting attention.
As the story goes, he decided to go to Brewster exactly because he was an "under the radar kid who didn't get a lot of recruiting attention." In fact, according to Verbal Commits he received zero D-1 offers in his senior year. That's about as under the radar as it gets.
I like it , "wh"...'nuff said'!
Quote from: wh on December 24, 2019, 03:17:12 PMAs the story goes, he decided to go to Brewster exactly because he was an "under the radar kid who didn't get a lot of recruiting attention." In fact, according to Verbal Commits he received zero D-1 offers in his senior year. That's about as under the radar as it gets.
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We could use this as the Crusaders next slogan. Kind of like "gritty."
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And when Sonic Union and Bastards of Funk have an album/music selection by that name you know you're in cool territory.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ
Jacob recently had the "#1 most insane dunk" via MaxPreps Wisconsin for last week.
First post for me ever by the way, been lurking for a couple years now...so I can't link video. But just type in MaxPreps Sheboygan Area Lutheran and click on the tab "Videos"
Quote from: GoVU on December 30, 2019, 04:58:15 PM
Jacob recently had the "#1 most insane dunk" via MaxPreps Wisconsin for last week.
First post for me ever by the way, been lurking for a couple years now...so I can't link video. But just type in MaxPreps Sheboygan Area Lutheran and click on the tab "Videos"
GoVU, welcome!
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/high-schools/shawano-community-hawks-(shawano,wi)/basketball/videos.htm?videoid=5bcc9ffb-7753-44df-9ab6-cc9f95712004
There are 5 better dunks in the region every week. That's not meant to be a dig at our new guy...
Excited for him to show up.
Quote from: M on January 04, 2020, 01:29:19 PM
There are 5 better dunks in the region every week. That's not meant to be a dig at our new guy...
Excited for him to show up.
That may or may not be true, but it doesn't matter. Valpo has tried to recruit Region players without success for years. For openers, there is clearly an anti-Valpo bias that exists throughout Lake, Porter and LaPorte Counties. Worse, there is a mindset here that if you're decent, you're too good for Valpo. Do you think that if 1st team IL HS stars Javon and Donovan grew up in Lake County they'd have even considered Valpo? Not a chance. Recruiting the Region is like like fishing in the middle of the lake at high noon - a complete waste of time. As a proud Valpo resident, born and raised, F the Region and their anti-Valpo attitude.
Cool...Wisconsin has wimpy dunks was the purpose of the post.
Side note: Fishing deep in the middle of the day is usually a pretty good bet for bites.
One of our recruits for next year has been putting up insane numbers. Don't know if it's the competition he's facing or he just dominates because no one else on the other teams are as big as he is. Hopefully he can transfer at least a portion of what he's doing to our D! level where he'll face kids taller than 6'7" or 6'8".
https://twitter.com/CrusaderBasketb/status/1213658804698701829
Remember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach. Jacob has broken Sam's scoring records from what I understand. Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.
Quote from: valpo64 on January 05, 2020, 03:43:42 PM
Remember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach. Jacob has broken Sam's scoring records from what I understand. Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.
Seth Cloclasure set many HS records for Indiana too. He was pretty good but in no way dominated like he did in HS. There is a transition to college ball that some HS players just don't do like they did in HS.
Quote from: valpo64 on January 05, 2020, 03:43:42 PM
Remember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach. Jacob has broken Sam's scoring records from what I understand. Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.
Ok, I spent a lot of time over the weekend watching video and reading commentary about Jacob, including from his AAU team against D-1 level talent. Not a doubt in my mind that he is the real deal. In fact, thank goodness he plays against small school competition. D-1 Major recruiters are hesitant to take a chance on small school success translating into big time D-1 athletics success, especially early in the recruiting process. Fortunately for us, Jacob wanted to make his choice before his senior year began; otherwise, undoubtedly we would be directly competing with D-1 Major programs by now. As good as he was last year, this year's videos are more impressive. His all around speed and athleticism have improved. He's more flexible, has a variety of post moves. He is a very good leaper. Unlike a lot of players (including Javon) he's equally capable of throwing down monster dunks off either 1 foot (drive to the hoop)or 2 (straight up underneath). He can drive under the hoop, cross over to the other side, spin 180 degrees in mid air and throw down a monster dunk. Oh, and he has a very nice looking jump shot with easy 3-pt. range.
IMO the 2020 recruiting class is the 2nd Matt Lottich home run in a row. Donovan and Ben are grand slams. I'm excited to see how this new class will perform. This is the way good programs are built and sustained. Matt is doing everything right and deserves our respect and full support - short term and long term.
Thanks wh, great report. I'm doing a little digging on the other two and found this video (not sure it hasn't been posted earlier) on Sheldon Edwards. This kid has NBA range and reminds me a little of Javon with the athleticism and ability to cut to the basket and finish.
https://youtu.be/ssBfBQYHvYs
Quote from: wh on January 06, 2020, 11:41:06 AMQuote from: valpo64 on January 05, 2020, 03:43:42 PMRemember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach. Jacob has broken Sam's scoring records from what I understand. Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.
Ok, I spent a lot of time over the weekend watching video and reading commentary about Jacob, including from his AAU team against D-1 level talent. Not a doubt in my mind that he is the real deal. In fact, thank goodness he plays against small school competition. D-1 Major recruiters are hesitant to take a chance on small school success translating into big time D-1 athletics success, especially early in the recruiting process. Fortunately for us, Jacob wanted to make his choice before his senior year began; otherwise, undoubtedly we would be directly competing with D-1 Major programs by now. As good as he was last year, this year's videos are more impressive. His all around speed and athleticism have improved. He's more flexible, has a variety of post moves. He is a very good leaper. Unlike a lot of players (including Javon) he's equally capable of throwing down monster dunks off either 1 foot (drive to the hoop)or 2 (straight up underneath). He can drive under the hoop, cross over to the other side, spin 180 degrees in mid air and throw down a monster dunk. Oh, and he has a very nice looking jump shot with easy 3-pt. range. IMO the 2020 recruiting class is the 2nd Matt Lottich home run in a row. Donovan and Ben are grand slams. I'm excited to see how this new class will perform. This is the way good programs are built and sustained. Matt is doing everything right and deserves our respect and full support - short term and long term.
This is amazing. We have a player that broke the records of not only a big star in a major conference Dekker was a key performer in deep NCAA tournament runs and was a first round pick in the NBA Draft if my memory serves. If Jacob comes anywhere close to that we are going to be so grateful to have him alongside Donovan Ben Javon and (at least for next year Eron and Nick.) You're making me excited again wh and 64. I need to see results on the floor but this report has me more hopeful than I was before I read it.
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Jacob breaks the 2000 point level! Great lengthy video really shows his footwork and overall skills. Granted, it was against the Little Sisters of the Poor but still, the guy will have a much needed inside/outside game.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-joins-2k-point-club/ar-BBZhtdo
Looking forward to seeing Jacob Ognacevic in a VU uniform and hope that his game will translate to the college level despite playing in a lower level class in Wisconsin. I was worried about his athleticism last year, but it appears that perhaps he has started to mature a bit and from this recent video he appears to be more athletic than I remember. Since he is averaging 36 ppg he has to be approaching 2300 points in his high school career.
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm (https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm)
We really haven't talked much about Conner Barrett who is playing a Prep school year at Brewster Academy. I spent some time looking for stats, but it didn't appear that many are available. I could only find one game in which Conner had 10 points. He is playing with a bunch of High Major guys so it will be interesting to see what he looks like coming in with an additional year of maturity (he is now listed as 6' 5" and even 6' 6" on at least one site) and playing and practicing with basically an all-star roster. This PDF roster shows who the players have signed with as of November. His Brewster Hudl profile has a short video of him shooting 2 threes.
https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1578056908/brewsteracademyorg/c2s5zxjousmlw7a5tuyh/2019-20Roster13.pdf (https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1578056908/brewsteracademyorg/c2s5zxjousmlw7a5tuyh/2019-20Roster13.pdf)
https://www.hudl.com/profile/13782953/Connor-Barrett (https://www.hudl.com/profile/13782953/Connor-Barrett)
Like his quick release...anxious to see him in Valpo brown and gold along with Jacob next year.
Interesting name on that list was Jamal Mashburn Jr, and signed to play with Ricky Pitino at Minny (Dad played for Rick at UK I believe).
There are rumbles around that Ricky is on the hot seat at Minnesota.
Quote from: FWalum on February 24, 2020, 10:53:09 AM
Looking forward to seeing Jacob Ognacevic in a VU uniform and hope that his game will translate to the college level despite playing in a lower level class in Wisconsin. I was worried about his athleticism last year, but it appears that perhaps he has started to mature a bit and from this recent video he appears to be more athletic than I remember. Since he is averaging 36 ppg he has to be approaching 2300 points in his high school career.
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm (https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm)
Krutweig is not super athletic nor super tall. He is smart, strong, and crafty. And he dominates. Clearly these 2 are different types of players, but you don't have to be super athletic to be really good.
I Swear Krutweig is in my over 40 league
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 27, 2020, 04:47:02 PM
I Swear Krutweig is in my over 40 league
And he has the hairline to prove it. ;)
Just like Connor Barrett, Sheldon Edwards has also used this year to go to a Prep school and will be coming to VU basically as a Sophomore in maturity. This could really help both of these two players and it will be VERY interesting to see if they act and perform more like Freshman or as players with a little more experience.
Krutwig isn't athletic, but he's got a sneaky quick first step in the post.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 27, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
Krutwig isn't athletic, but he's got a sneaky quick first step in the post.
I think Krikke has the same quick first step. I think we might see one of the biggest YOY improvement from him.
Back last fall Valpo was recruiting Jeremiah Williams, who had transferred for his senior year to Simeon High School in the CPL. He visited Valpo, but decided to not commit to any school at that time.
Apparently Valpo is still in the mix per the linked article below. He says he's leaning to SIU now. Mullins has done a heck of a job at SIU in his short tenure. Loyola also is mentioned among his current suitors.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/2/27/21156276/jeremiah-williams-simeon-basketball
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Quote from: vufan75 on February 27, 2020, 07:50:31 PM
Back last fall Valpo was recruiting Jeremiah Williams, who had transferred for his senior year to Simeon High School in the CPL. He visited Valpo, but decided to not commit to any school at that time.
Apparently Valpo is still in the mix per the linked article below. He says he's leaning to SIU now. Mullins has done a heck of a job at SIU in his short tenure. Loyola also is mentioned among his current suitors.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/2/27/21156276/jeremiah-williams-simeon-basketball
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Speaking of old-looking (from another thread on Krutwig), Williams looks like he's in his 30's.
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Do we have an open scholarship anyway? I don't think we do.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 27, 2020, 09:21:47 PM
Do we have an open scholarship anyway? I don't think we do.
We do not.
Quote from: FWalum on February 27, 2020, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 27, 2020, 09:21:47 PM
Do we have an open scholarship anyway? I don't think we do.
We do not.
That could change as we all know. I haven't heard anything but it's just the nature of CBB these days. I don't think he lands at Valpo but I he's going to be a very nice college player.
Well it sounds like there's a good chance he's going to end up in the Valley with SIU and Loyola on his list as well and that would be good for all of us. The more good players in this league the better.
Valpo recruit continues to put up massive stats
https://twitter.com/CrusaderBasketb/status/1233227279133814784
https://twitter.com/jordanjacob91/status/1231646475387572229?s=21
What are the details on Sheldon Edwards...height, position, ppg, etc? Did he go to highs school with any of our other current team members?
Quote from: valpo64 on February 28, 2020, 02:42:24 PM
What are the details on Sheldon Edwards...height, position, ppg, etc? Did he go to highs school with any of our other current team members?
This from the signing announcement: No, he is from Florida
Edwards, a 6-foot-4 guard, averaged 21.2 points and 7.6 rebounds at Palm Beach Lakes High last season. He is spending a postgraduate year at TLAP Sports Academy in Port St. Lucie, Fla.
"Sheldon wasn't as well known and didn't play a high level of AAU until later in his career," Lottich said. "We were out recruiting a different player, and Sheldon had 36 points. We watched him again, and he had 37. He can score at all three levels. He's athletic, can shoot and has the ability to get by his defender and finish. The way our class was built, it became clear that he was a player who could fill the missing piece. We're getting a player with a ton of potential and talent, and we're thrilled to add that to our roster."
A first-team all-state honoree, Edwards won all-star game MVP honors in the state of Florida last season. He prides himself on scoring and defense.
"My visit to Valpo was perfect; everyone made it seem like home for my family and me," Edwards said. "After the visit, it wasn't a hard decision. My family and I knew right away this was the best fit. I know everyone will be bigger, faster and stronger playing at the Division-I college level, but I'm ready. I'm working to continue to improve this season. Next year, we're going to be a team that plays hard and is fun to watch."
So, assuming no transfers, is the roster full for next year?
I think that there are three coming in:
Sheldon Edwards
Jacob Ognacevic
Connor Barnett
Also, is the guy on the mission (can't remember name) coming back next year?
Is that right?
Aren't there only going to be two scholarships open from our departing seniors?
Quote from: M on February 28, 2020, 06:04:15 PM
Aren't there only going to be two scholarships open from our departing seniors?
Thought we came into THIS season having not filled (1) scholarship??
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 28, 2020, 06:23:37 PMQuote from: M on February 28, 2020, 06:04:15 PMAren't there only going to be two scholarships open from our departing seniors?
Thought we came into THIS season having not filled (1) scholarship??
Yes we did. Therefore we have three for next season. Witch are now all taken and filled.
Quote from: 4throwfan on February 28, 2020, 04:25:37 PM
So, assuming no transfers, is the roster full for next year?
I think that there are three coming in:
Sheldon Edwards
Jacob Ognacevic
Connor Barnett
Also, is the guy on the mission (can't remember name) coming back next year?
Is that right?
We had an open scholarship so we'll fill up all 3 with the incoming freshman. I believe Steve Helm, who is on the mission, is going to be playing on an academic scholarship so we won't have to burn one on him
Nice piece on Jacob:
https://www.postcrescent.com/videos/sports/2020/02/28/high-school-basketball-jacob-ognacevic-sheboygan-lutheran-crusaders-look-win-state-title/4850115002/
Quote from: FWalum on February 27, 2020, 11:52:50 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanjacob91/status/1231646475387572229?s=21
I'm pretty curious about Jacob's upside. He's putting up crazy numbers against some fairly weak competition.
Seems to have strong fundamentals but the athleticism is a question mark for me. Seems to have a solid outside jumper. What are his rebounding numbers going to be against guys the same size and more athletic. Does he have that high basketball IQ, anticipation and nose for the ball? You need to see him play live to judge these things.
I'm excited to watch him but I have somewhat tempered expectations for his freshman year. Remember Taylor Bruniga (now with ISU), he DOMINATED weak competition in high school at a low level and he's just solid/average player in the Valley as of right now
Quote from: VU2014 on February 29, 2020, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: FWalum on February 27, 2020, 11:52:50 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanjacob91/status/1231646475387572229?s=21
I'm pretty curious about Jacob's upside. He's putting up crazy numbers against some fairly weak competition.
Seems to have strong fundamentals but the athleticism is a question mark for me. Seems to have a solid outside jumper. What are his rebounding numbers going to be against guys the same size and more athletic. Does he have that high basketball IQ, anticipation and nose for the ball? You need to see him play live to judge these things.
I'm excited to watch him but I have somewhat tempered expectations for his freshman year. Remember Taylor Bruniga (now with ISU), he DOMINATED weak competition in high school at a low level and he's just solid/average player in the Valley as of right now
All good points, certainly tempering our expectations is a good thing (like any freshman). He doesn't have to dominate his competition at our level which might be a difficult mindset for him. He is very tenacious as far as I can tell. Does he have the good attitude to accept the ups-and-downs that a freshman year present? One in which he will absolutely not dominate as in high school. I think many freshman players have issues with the transition from "God" to "teammate off the bench".
People will hate me for this, but if he is another Derrik Smits (bad attitude on display) then I'm disinterested. I am thankful for this years team seeing our players work together through JUST AS MANY trials and tribulations as last years team. It's all in between the ears guys, all these players have the skill level to succeed in a team sport or else they wouldn't be recruited.
I want a team player first and foremost, if that is what Jacob brings to the table and only puts up 6 points 3 rebounds a game as a freshman then I am still pleased with his addition.
How'd he do in summer leagues against better competition?
Quote from: vok22 on February 29, 2020, 06:20:34 AM
Quote from: 4throwfan on February 28, 2020, 04:25:37 PM
So, assuming no transfers, is the roster full for next year?
I think that there are three coming in:
Sheldon Edwards
Jacob Ognacevic
Connor Barnett
Also, is the guy on the mission (can't remember name) coming back next year?
Is that right?
We had an open scholarship so we'll fill up all 3 with the incoming freshman. I believe Steve Helm, who is on the mission, is going to be playing on an academic scholarship so we won't have to burn one on him
Just asking for my own education,
Does it matter what kind of scholarship that he gets? What is to stop a team from awarding academic scholarships to extra players, and then having them "walk on"? Seems like an unscrupulous team could have 18 people on the bench, with all being on scholarship 13-athletic, and 5-academic. Seems like a team would be limited to 13 scholarships, regardless of what kind they are.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 29, 2020, 11:35:56 AM
How'd he do in summer leagues against better competition?
Good question. I did a little searching and didn't find out much other than he played on a very talented aau team with guys like Wisconsin signees, The Davis brothers. Here is an article which is over a year old but said in part:
"Ognacevic made Thompson defend all over the court and was as consistent with his outside shot as he was in the post". The Thompson mentioned is Terrance Thompson, who holds 10 D1 offers including Bradley and Missouri State.
Here's the article: https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/preps/aau-basketball-stars-invade-la-crosse-central-for-practice-sessions/article_3bd16233-6ff0-5688-9440-e4791faa5538.html
Super excited for this kid and this class I have to say!
I'm probably over thinking this but this clip makes me question the ceiling on Jacob. Life in CBB won't be this easy. If he takes this same move to the hoop against a capable defensive team it gets contested. The athleticism is concerning. Maybe I'm looking for reasons to get off the hype train with Jacob...
https://twitter.com/leicaman99/status/1235032782759481350?s=21
Quote from: VU2014 on March 04, 2020, 04:03:30 PM
I'm probably over thinking this but this clip makes me question the ceiling on Jacob. Life in CBB won't be this easy. If he takes this same move to the hoop against a capable defensive team it gets contested. The athleticism is concerning. Maybe I'm looking for reasons to get off the hype train with Jacob...
https://twitter.com/leicaman99/status/1235032782759481350?s=21
I also have questions about Jacoobs athleticism, but they have been assuaged somewhat by some of the many clips on MaxPreps this past year. I am most concerned with his quickness and foot speed. We will just have to wait and see, he seems to have a very good work ethic from what his coaches and peers have said. If you search for him on Twitter there is a fair amount of stuff on him, not just high school stuff.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Jacob%20Ognacevic&src=typed_query (https://twitter.com/search?q=Jacob%20Ognacevic&src=typed_query)
Quote from: FWalum on March 04, 2020, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 04, 2020, 04:03:30 PM
I'm probably over thinking this but this clip makes me question the ceiling on Jacob. Life in CBB won't be this easy. If he takes this same move to the hoop against a capable defensive team it gets contested. The athleticism is concerning. Maybe I'm looking for reasons to get off the hype train with Jacob...
https://twitter.com/leicaman99/status/1235032782759481350?s=21
I also have questions about Jacoobs athleticism, but they have been assuaged somewhat by some of the many clips on MaxPreps this past year. I am most concerned with his quickness and foot speed. We will just have to wait and see, he seems to have a very good work ethic from what his coaches and peers have said. If you search for him on Twitter there is a fair amount of stuff on him, not just high school stuff.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Jacob%20Ognacevic&src=typed_query (https://twitter.com/search?q=Jacob%20Ognacevic&src=typed_query)
Hard to argue against your points, I personally just want someone that can shoot with a good % inside and out at this position. His defense, IMO, will be mostly in question if he doesn't have good anticipation or foot speed. We haven't had a technically sound C in many years and if his high school scoring prowess is partly due to basketball footwork / IQ I think he will be just fine. I'd like to see another Kevin Van Wijk in a Valpo uniform. He was never athletically overwhelming but he sure was effective.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 04, 2020, 06:50:16 PMWe haven't had a technically sound C in many years and if his high school scoring prowess is partly due to basketball footwork / IQ I think he will be just fine. I'd like to see another Kevin Van Wijk in a Valpo uniform.
Will we try to fashion him as a true center? I have him pictured as more an Adekoya, McMillan, Krikke composite.
Remember that other guy we had that wasn't athletic at all a few years back, Alec Peters. He turned out alright.
Quote from: justducky on March 04, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 04, 2020, 06:50:16 PMWe haven't had a technically sound C in many years and if his high school scoring prowess is partly due to basketball footwork / IQ I think he will be just fine. I'd like to see another Kevin Van Wijk in a Valpo uniform.
Will we try to fashion him as a true center? I have him pictured as more an Adekoya, McMillan, Krikke composite.
I think the coaches see him as a 3/4, probably the later. He has a high percentage from the 3. With McMillan at the 5, Jacob or Ben could play the 4.
Quote from: vu72 on March 04, 2020, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 04, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 04, 2020, 06:50:16 PMWe haven't had a technically sound C in many years and if his high school scoring prowess is partly due to basketball footwork / IQ I think he will be just fine. I'd like to see another Kevin Van Wijk in a Valpo uniform.
Will we try to fashion him as a true center? I have him pictured as more an Adekoya, McMillan, Krikke composite.
I think the coaches see him as a 3/4, probably the later. He has a high percentage from the 3. With McMillan at the 4, Jacob or Ben could play the 4.
That's fine if we want to see his skill set is more of a power forward but I think the fact remains that he will have to defend against centers in many instances. We can line them up however you want offensively but on the defensive end our opponents are going to have guys his size or bigger and he's going to need to defend them and play that position.
Quote from: vu72 on March 04, 2020, 07:53:23 PMI think the coaches see him as a 3/4, probably the later. He has a high percentage from the 3. With McMillan at the 4, Jacob or Ben could play the 4.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 04, 2020, 08:29:01 PM
That's fine if we want to see his skill set is more of a power forward but I think the fact remains that he will have to defend against centers in many instances. We can line them up however you want offensively but on the defensive end our opponents are going to have guys his size or bigger and he's going to need to defend them and play that position.
I also do not see Jacob as a 5 but as a 4 who may at times have to play with his back to the basket. Who knows about any of this stuff, I was super excited about Parker Hazen and I got to see him in person many times against 2,3 and 4A competition.
Regarding Jacob's quickness and foot speed, those were the same concerns about Alec Peters. Those recruiting him were not as much concerned with those things as they were impressed with his offensive skills...scorer, good 3-point shooter and rebounder. And he kept improving through his senior year in H S after a good AAU run. This kid looks like he COULD be another A P. In any event, when he shatters records previously set by Sam Dekker, that alone is saying something. Let's face it, no matter who the recruit , 2 star to 5 star rating, you never know know how they will pan out on the college level. We have seen examples of that at VU. Personally, I can't wait to see the guy in brown and gold next year. The same feeling I have for the other 2 recruits for next year.
I just really don't like throwing around AP comps. Players like him come around once in a generation for mid-major schools.
I'm less plugged in then I use to be but I don't hear the same buzz for Jacob that I did for Alec. When Alec committed the coaches knew they landed a program changer. Not sure that same buzz and hype is here. But like I said, I'm not a plugged in as I use to be.
All he has to do is be a good second or third option and fit in well with JFL Clay and Krikke. if he can do that we're going to be fine.
1314, I disagree with that. "Fine" should not be good enough. Satisfaction with 2nd or 3rd option should not be "fine."
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but trying to have more of an urgent sense of getting to the top of the league.
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 08:39:51 AM1314, I disagree with that. "Fine" should not be good enough. Satisfaction with 2nd or 3rd option should not be "fine." Not trying to sound like a jerk, but trying to have more of an urgent sense of getting to the top of the league.
Let me clarify: That is the minimum benchmark he needs to hit. Fit in with the apparent rising stars we already have and contribute. Obviously we want expect and demand more from him that he takes charge and becomes a JFL caliber player right away. I'm just saying there's a minimum goal and what we all should want and expect and they aren't the same thing. Getting to the top of the league is our most urgent pressing concern but it won't be easy when you look at the other rosters. That's just a fact. That said, we need to find a way to do it to keep the program running and relevant.
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 08:39:51 AM
1314, I disagree with that. "Fine" should not be good enough. Satisfaction with 2nd or 3rd option should not be "fine."
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but trying to have more of an urgent sense of getting to the top of the league.
Let's not forget that this young man has yet to play one minute of college basketball. He'll be on a team that has some established and up and coming players, one of whom is already an all conference performer. Thus, for a freshman to be the 2nd or 3rd option is very reasonable.
Quote from: valpo95 on March 06, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 08:39:51 AM
1314, I disagree with that. "Fine" should not be good enough. Satisfaction with 2nd or 3rd option should not be "fine."
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but trying to have more of an urgent sense of getting to the top of the league.
Let's not forget that this young man has yet to play one minute of college basketball. He'll be on a team that has some established and up and coming players, one of whom is already an all conference performer. Thus, for a freshman to be the 2nd or 3rd option is very reasonable.
I can agree to an extent, but I'd rather have a roster of Clay's and Krikke's than Freese-Villen's. I guess I'm just looking more for a pressuring mindset.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 05, 2020, 06:41:20 PM
All he has to do is be a good second or third option and fit in well with JFL Clay and Krikke. if he can do that we're going to be fine.
Realistically I would be tickled to death to have him duplicate what Krikke has done. I am cautiously expecting Jacob to contribute slightly less.
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 09:17:24 AM
Quote from: valpo95 on March 06, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 08:39:51 AM
1314, I disagree with that. "Fine" should not be good enough. Satisfaction with 2nd or 3rd option should not be "fine."
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but trying to have more of an urgent sense of getting to the top of the league.
Let's not forget that this young man has yet to play one minute of college basketball. He'll be on a team that has some established and up and coming players, one of whom is already an all conference performer. Thus, for a freshman to be the 2nd or 3rd option is very reasonable.
I can agree to an extent, but I'd rather have a roster of Clay's and Krikke's than Freese-Villen's. I guess I'm just looking more for a pressuring mindset.
I think that we are very lucky to have 2 of what I would call exceptional freshman this year. Finding just one recruit per year that has the potential to be a starter 3 out of the 4 (hopefully) years they are in your program is really killing it on the recruiting trail. The 2019 recruiting class has gone above and beyond what I expected. In evaluating Krikke last year from some of the highlights we saw, I thought he might struggle with the speed of the US college game, but I think he is quicker than I had thought and has adjusted very well as the season progressed. Don't have to talk much about Clay, his play speaks for him. I think the the 2020 class has similar potential. Sheldon Edwards appears to be just a flat out scorer who, much like JFL and Clay, enjoys playing hard nose defense and has an extra year of maturity. We know about Jacob Ognacevic's achievements, but we really don't know about his potential. Is he even close to Sam Dekker (the player his coach and others have compared him)? If he is just 75% of Sam Dekker we probably have a good MVC player. The interesting question mark really is Connor Barrett. Not much out there this year with him playing at Brewster Academy (one of the top Basketball Prep Schools, last years national prep champions) with a bunch of high major recruits. The things we do know is that he has grown 3 inches in the last 18 months, has taken this year to get more mature and has a great looking stroke with a quick release. I can't help but think that he and Edwards come into the program next year more ready to play at this level because of the extra year. I agree with Tarrance Price and Chris Sparks' improving assessment of the program and these 2020 recruits appear to be another step in the right direction.
Quote from: FWalum on March 06, 2020, 12:03:42 PM
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 09:17:24 AM
Quote from: valpo95 on March 06, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: 4throwfan on March 06, 2020, 08:39:51 AM
1314, I disagree with that. "Fine" should not be good enough. Satisfaction with 2nd or 3rd option should not be "fine."
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but trying to have more of an urgent sense of getting to the top of the league.
Let's not forget that this young man has yet to play one minute of college basketball. He'll be on a team that has some established and up and coming players, one of whom is already an all conference performer. Thus, for a freshman to be the 2nd or 3rd option is very reasonable.
I can agree to an extent, but I'd rather have a roster of Clay's and Krikke's than Freese-Villen's. I guess I'm just looking more for a pressuring mindset.
I think that we are very lucky to have 2 of what I would call exceptional freshman this year. Finding just one recruit per year that has the potential to be a starter 3 out of the 4 (hopefully) years they are in your program is really killing it on the recruiting trail. The 2019 recruiting class has gone above and beyond what I expected. In evaluating Krikke last year from some of the highlights we saw, I thought he might struggle with the speed of the US college game, but I think he is quicker than I had thought and has adjusted very well as the season progressed. Don't have to talk much about Clay, his play speaks for him. I think the the 2020 class has similar potential. Sheldon Edwards appears to be just a flat out scorer who, much like JFL and Clay, enjoys playing hard nose defense and has an extra year of maturity. We know about Jacob Ognacevic's achievements, but we really don't know about his potential. Is he even close to Sam Dekker (the player his coach and others have compared him)? If he is just 75% of Sam Dekker we probably have a good MVC player. The interesting question mark really is Connor Barrett. Not much out there this year with him playing at Brewster Academy (one of the top Basketball Prep Schools, last years national prep champions) with a bunch of high major recruits. The things we do know is that he has grown 3 inches in the last 18 months, has taken this year to get more mature and has a great looking stroke with a quick release. I can't help but think that he and Edwards come into the program next year more ready to play at this level because of the extra year. I agree with Tarrance Price and Chris Sparks' improving assessment of the program and these 2020 recruits appear to be another step in the right direction.
I think we're all on the same page:
1. We want all current eligible players to stay, develop, and get better. They are a group of guys that we enjoy watching, top to bottom. And, they are great ambassadors for the program.
2. The incoming class seems to have a lot of promise. Incredible scoring chops. All are excited to see them come in.
3. 1 + 2 = continuous improvement for the team, such that we can and should expect continually increasing win percentage and funner games to watch going forward.
From what I saw in this kid's highlights he certainly has pretty good basic skillsets. When I first read about him, I thought he just might simply be a guy who was so much larger than everyone he played that he was just a bunch of dunks which won't translate to the next level. However he's got good hands, appears to have pretty good game awareness, can shoot a little and didn't seem at all uncomfortable outside the arc.
I actually can see the comparisons to Peters some are making in some aspects of their respective games. I just think Peters was more polished, a better shooter and played against(I think) a higher level.
Definitely should be a freshman contributor and maybe moreso than Krikke.
News that was maybe lost in the fervor of the weekend...
Quote from: GoVU on March 09, 2020, 02:51:46 PM
News that was maybe lost in the fervor of the weekend...
Fortunately for Jacob, he got one more game in before they called off the rest of the tournament. He scored 32 so now is one of three players in Wisconsin history to score 1000 point in a season. He also had 17 boards so he finished the year leading the state in scoring and finished second in rebounding. In spite of being from a small school, he has to be a leading candidate for Mr. Basketball even if he isn't going to Wisconsin. Sam Dekker won it in 2012 and he went to the same small school. He did however sign with Wisconsin.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/high-school-thursdays-sports-results/ar-BB117E59
An additional year of eligibility for our seniors? Spring sports athletes too?
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief)
Quote from: valpo84 on March 13, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
An additional year of eligibility for our seniors? Spring sports athletes too?
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief)
So how would this affect incoming frosh? Would they increase the number of scholarships? Playing time would be split between five classes of students?
Quote from: valpo84 on March 13, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
An additional year of eligibility for our seniors? Spring sports athletes too?
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief)
Unworkable. I see no way this could benefit honor bound mid major programs and coaches.
Quote from: justducky on March 13, 2020, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: valpo84 on March 13, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
An additional year of eligibility for our seniors? Spring sports athletes too?
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/28898928/ncaa-discuss-granting-athletes-eligibility-relief)
Unworkable. I see no way this could benefit honor bound mid major programs and coaches.
Kiser is done so at best it would be Fazekas (one player).
It's ridiculous that they'd even consider granting the winter athletes another year. Now the spring athletes...that's a different story.
Wichita State has (5) transfers already.
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/wichita-state (http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/wichita-state)
Wow! That is shocking! They are usually a very stable program.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 14, 2020, 03:03:10 PMWow! That is shocking! They are usually a very stable program.
ISWYDT
:rotfl:
I wasn't 100% TRYING to be funny there (okay maybe a little) but it just worked out that way. ;D :thumbsup:
Josh Hall shows as transferring from Missouri State
That's not good for the Bears. He's replaceable but that's a player you'd certainly prefer to keep if you can. I doubt we'll see many updates given that recruiting is suspended until April 15th.
Random thought. We should have Steven Helm back next season as a walk-on. He's going to comeback from his Mormon Mission. He probably hasn't played basketbball much the last 2 years but it should still be nice to have a mature voice in the locker-room and someone who will compete in practice. Plus it's a bonus that he's a local kid.
Quote from: VU2014 on March 15, 2020, 01:31:00 PMRandom thought. We should have Steven Helm back next season as a walk-on. He's going to comeback from his Mormon Mission. He probably hasn't played basketbball much the last 2 years but it should still be nice to have a mature voice in the locker-room and someone who will compete in practice. Plus it's a bonus that he's a local kid.
He's also supposedly an AMAZING foul shooter. Put him in when we need to ice games!
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 15, 2020, 05:59:42 PMQuote from: VU2014 on March 15, 2020, 01:31:00 PMRandom thought. We should have Steven Helm back next season as a walk-on. He's going to comeback from his Mormon Mission. He probably hasn't played basketbball much the last 2 years but it should still be nice to have a mature voice in the locker-room and someone who will compete in practice. Plus it's a bonus that he's a local kid.
He's also supposedly an AMAZING foul shooter. Put him in when we need to ice games!
I would not expect much at all from him. He is an excellent free throw shooter, but remember he spent one season already with Valpo and barely saw the court. Don't see him having much more than a few minutes next season. Hopefully he will contribute greatly in practice.
Quote from: VUBBFan on March 15, 2020, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 15, 2020, 05:59:42 PMQuote from: VU2014 on March 15, 2020, 01:31:00 PMRandom thought. We should have Steven Helm back next season as a walk-on. He's going to comeback from his Mormon Mission. He probably hasn't played basketbball much the last 2 years but it should still be nice to have a mature voice in the locker-room and someone who will compete in practice. Plus it's a bonus that he's a local kid.
He's also supposedly an AMAZING foul shooter. Put him in when we need to ice games!
I would not expect much at all from him. He is an excellent free throw shooter, but remember he spent one season already with Valpo and barely saw the court. Don't see him having much more than a few minutes next season. Hopefully he will contribute greatly in practice.
I think he was a redshirt the one year with Valpo. He last played in 2016-17 at Carroll in Montana.
Maybe this one dunk in Jacob Ognacevic's senior year compilation puts the athleticism question to rest... maybe.
Dunk happens at 3:01.
Food for thought on Wichita State
https://twitter.com/HoopvilleAdam/status/1239634340570714113
Quote from: FWalum on March 16, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
Maybe this one dunk in Jacob Ognacevic's senior year compilation puts the athleticism question to rest... maybe.
Dunk happens at 3:01.
Did you also notice his step back 3? And how well he crosses under the rim in either direction to finish a post move? He has plenty of athleticism for my liking. It was reported that he stood out against top notch D-1 AAU players his size. He seems to have a big vertical. What's not to love about this kid? He could be another Matt Lottich recruiting home run.
Quote from: wh on March 17, 2020, 07:20:09 AM
Quote from: FWalum on March 16, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
Maybe this one dunk in Jacob Ognacevic's senior year compilation puts the athleticism question to rest... maybe.
Dunk happens at 3:01.
Did you also notice his step back 3? And how well he crosses under the rim in either direction to finish a post move? He has plenty of athleticism for my liking. It was reported that he stood out against top notch D-1 AAU players his size. He seems to have a big vertical. What's not to love about this kid? He could be another Matt Lottich recruiting home run.
Remember that the same thing was being said about Ryan Fazekas (played at a small high school so what he did there wouldn't translate to D1) Ryan now holds the career 3 point shooting percentage record in Valpo history.
He should have Krikke level freshman impact but his skill sets are a bit different. With Kiser and Fazekas gone the playing time opportunity will come mainly at the 3 and 4. How much of that can he grab? What will be the per game average minutes where 2 out of 3 of Krikke, McMillan and Ognacevic are on the floor together? Depending on his off season development this could be the bottleneck to his playing time. Note that our other 2 freshman will also compete at those positions. Fortunately Clay and Robinson can already slide out to the 1 or 2 and the motion offense seems to blur some of the lines.
Boiled down I guess the question becomes---How good of a freshman ball handler will he be?
I'm a big fan of positionless basketball. I loved seeing Freeman, Clay, Kiser bringing the ball up the court. Give me a team full of guys who can play and guard 3 or more positions on the court at anytime. Excited for the types of guys Lottich and staff are bringing in.
Quote from: FWalum on March 16, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
Maybe this one dunk in Jacob Ognacevic's senior year compilation puts the athleticism question to rest... maybe.
Dunk happens at 3:01.
I'm curious at what % clip he'll shoot from the perimeter.
Quote from: VU2014 on March 17, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
Quote from: FWalum on March 16, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
Maybe this one dunk in Jacob Ognacevic's senior year compilation puts the athleticism question to rest... maybe.
Dunk happens at 3:01.
I'm curious at what % clip he'll shoot from the perimeter.
Do we expect them to get a volume of shots (say 3+ attempts per game) from deep? I'm asking because I don't know his real game when he's playing other D1 athletes.
Quote from: M on March 17, 2020, 11:29:56 AM
I'm a big fan of positionless basketball. I loved seeing Freeman, Clay, Kiser bringing the ball up the court. Give me a team full of guys who can play and guard 3 or more positions on the court at anytime. Excited for the types of guys Lottich and staff are bringing in.
Having the potential to be a ball-handler is a great thing but his freshman playing time will hinge on his actual ability to do it. I could see him struggle to earn 5 minutes or situationally be handed 15. We will be a low turn over team in 20-21. Sloppy ball handling with a 13 healthy player roster could earn him a lot of end of bench time.
Quote from: justducky on March 17, 2020, 11:23:33 AMHe should have Krikke level freshman impact but his skill sets are a bit different.
I can't remember but I think Krikke played a lot of 5 in high school as well given his size. What may be overlooked here is that Jacob is not only the leading scorer in Wisconsin, he is the SECOND leading rebounder, something we always can use.
If he can score and (especially) if he can rebound which has been an issue for this team for years he will find plenty of minutes. You can be sure of that.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 17, 2020, 01:24:02 PMIf he can score and (especially) if he can rebound which has been an issue for this team for years he will find plenty of minutes.
Too broad a statement. Can you define "plenty"? Trying to pin down some of this unrestrained optimism is getting frustrating. So lets imagine him as a freshman Krikke with similar rebounding, shooting and ball handling skills. How many minutes does he get and who does he get them from? Also if you believe that he is a better defender, rebounder, shooter or ball handler than Krikke then make your case. I didn't see much open court dribbling in the high-lite reel nor were there many 2 star level players that he had to defend.
Ognacevic finished as a finalist for Wisconsin Mr Basketball but he did not win. Still plenty of good reasons to be really excited about this kid! Go Valpo!
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 17, 2020, 05:30:08 PM
Ognacevic finished as a finalist for Wisconsin Mr Basketball but he did not win. Still plenty of good reasons to be really excited about this kid! Go Valpo!
So was he like JFL who finished (7th I think)? Do you have the story you can share?
Sure Here you go!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/high-schools/2020/03/17/uw-recruit-johnny-davis-named-2020-wisconsin-mr-basketball/5067817002/
Geez, Wichita State now has (6) transfers.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 18, 2020, 06:51:38 PM
Geez, Wichita State now has (6) transfers.
Make that (7) transfers and (1) Senior so he is needing to replace (8) players on his roster. Here is a well detailed article on the situation and it sounds eerily like Valpo to some degree after 2018/19 season.
https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article241321281.html (https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article241321281.html)
If that's the case then there's no reason to worry about them. They will be fine.
Congratulations Jacob!
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1243517272443871233
Oh my GOODNESS! This young man can jump out of the gym! This is exciting! Potentially big time get by Lottich!
https://twitter.com/sheldon3edwards/status/1243015493071577093
https://twitter.com/sheldon3edwards/status/1243015835872047104
I like this one, shows the hops even better. Top of head pretty much even with the rim!
The Valpo Coaching Staff seems to be recruiting for the 2020 recruiting class even though there is no open scholarships. Probably smart, because you never know these days.
Sebastien Lamute - PG from Canada
https://twitter.com/tariq_nph/status/1246617726543691776?s=21
https://youtu.be/pdxMHPk_FcI
Numbers look good Academic credentials look good. Maybe we're losing a guard. Or maybe this is JFL insurance in case he does leave.
Scholarships are a year to year thing. Maybe they like him better then someone currently on the roster and that someone will be helped to find a better opportunity elsewhere.
Or maybe he's a security blanket if someone does head out suddenly.
Strange -
• We have no openings unless and until someone announces they're leaving.
• We have no new 2020 offers, according to Verbal Commits.
• I don't see any mention anywhere else on the world wide web of any connection between this player and Valpo
• The list of schools mentioned in the tweet are all low majors except Valpo.
• Just a guess, but maybe he is someone we may have shown some interest in at some point in the past, but not currently. Then again, maybe we'll hear tomorrow that he's our newest Crusader. Who knows?
Our recruiting moves and roster changes have always been held close to the vest so maybe there is something going on that we do not know about. It sure wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 28, 2020, 03:56:36 AM
Congratulations Jacob!
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1243517272443871233
As I am sure is the case with many of you, I have been taking long walks around my own and adjacent subdivisions in the last few weeks. Among the neighbors that I have gotten to know (or know better) - at a safe distance - is a new neighbor who is a former D3 college player and assistant high school coach in Wisconsin. He has seen Jacob play. His comments were that Jacob is very skilled, but not that athletic. His stats are obviously inflated some because of playing against such small schools, but he was surprised that he did not generate more interest from Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. He thinks he could be very good at Valpo.
Quote from: vu84v2 on April 06, 2020, 10:19:44 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 28, 2020, 03:56:36 AM
Congratulations Jacob!
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1243517272443871233
As I am sure is the case with many of you, I have been taking long walks around my own and adjacent subdivisions in the last few weeks. Among the neighbors that I have gotten to know (or know better) - at a safe distance - is a new neighbor who is a former D3 college player and assistant high school coach in Wisconsin. He has seen Jacob play. His comments were that Jacob is very skilled, but not that athletic. His stats are obviously inflated some because of playing against such small schools, but he was surprised that he did not generate more interest from Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. He thinks he could be very good at Valpo.
Thank you for sharing with the rest of us. I am glad to hear of his skill level and personally I think that carries a player much further. Frankly a young Parker Hazen was primarily athletic and taller than his competition, I bet he improves in college and is a good contributor as a senior somewhere. But if a player relies solely on athleticism or size then I'd rather have a player that has honed his skill like a Dan Oppland. The fact that Jacob has progressed as he has at the high school level means more, imo.
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm
Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)
Quote from: vu72 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:29 PM
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm
Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)
People say he's not very athletic, but neither is Krikke. They are a similar size. I don't think Krikke would have put up those numbers as a senior in high school in the small school division in Wisconsin, so I'm assuming at WORST he will have a similar freshman year as Krikke but I really think he will be quite a bit better.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 16, 2020, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:29 PM
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm
Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)
People say he's not very athletic, but neither is Krikke. They are a similar size. I don't think Krikke would have put up those numbers as a senior in high school in the small school division in Wisconsin, so I'm assuming at WORST he will have a similar freshman year as Krikke but I really think he will be quite a bit better.
"They" said the same thing about Alec Peters!
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 16, 2020, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:29 PM
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm
Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)
People say he's not very athletic, but neither is Krikke. They are a similar size. I don't think Krikke would have put up those numbers as a senior in high school in the small school division in Wisconsin, so I'm assuming at WORST he will have a similar freshman year as Krikke but I really think he will be quite a bit better.
IMO Ben is more athletic than you give him credit for. As for Jacob, I've watched and rewatched more video on him than any player I can recall, trying to determine how his small HS background will translate to big time college basketball. Bottom line, I think he's the real deal. I don't expect him to stand out right out of the gate, given all the quality returning players we'll have, but he could play a major role in year 2 and beyond. As to Ben, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think he is a star in the making.
Agree with WH...have you actually watched him in the pregame warmups...dude has the best dunks out there!
Quote from: M on April 21, 2020, 07:41:59 AM
Agree with WH...have you actually watched him in the pregame warmups...dude has the best dunks out there!
I fully expect that the 4 and 5 positions might actually be a strength for us next year as all three look to be 3 point threats. Krikke with a year under his belt, McMillan improving leaps and bounds every year, and JO being D1 ready immediately. I could see those guys all averaging 20-25 minutes a game at the 4/5 positions eating up the majority of the time at those positions.
Player we offered that I thought was pretty good
https://twitter.com/AlexKRecruiting/status/1253134232618221569
New tricks from Sheldon Edwards!
https://twitter.com/sheldonnn13/status/1254373651006267392 :o
https://twitter.com/sheldonnn13/status/1254373067100389377 :o
Frinkin amazing!
I have a feeling we're going to like Sheldon Edwards quite a bit. Could be another gem.
With JFL heading out, who are we in on?
Quote from: M on April 28, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
With JFL heading out, who are we in on?
No clue, but I would lock down a scholarship with anyone who doesn't project to have a high ceiling, unless they are a grad-transfer stop gap.
Keon Thompson and Chris Mantis are the Top 2 2020 targets, imo. I know Ball State is recruiting Chris pretty hard and I would be so disappointed if we lost out on Keon to Drake.
Quote from: M on April 28, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
With JFL heading out, who are we in on?
We made 4 2020 offers and signed 3. The 4th, 6-8 Jeremiah Oden, Sunrise Christian Academy, is still unsigned. I see he has received 24 offers. 23, including Valpo, are still open. Rivals and 247 Sports rank him 3 stars.
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jeremiah-oden
Quote from: wh on April 28, 2020, 08:14:23 PMQuote from: M on April 28, 2020, 09:53:31 AMWith JFL heading out, who are we in on?
We made 4 2020 offers and signed 3. The 4th, 6-8 Jeremiah Oden, Sunrise Christian Academy, is still unsigned. I see he has received 24 offers. 23, including Valpo, are still open. Rivals and 247 Sports rank him 3 stars. http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jeremiah-oden
We had more offers than 4. Oden is just the last one we offered that has not signed with any team. Jeremiah Williams was one we had a offer out to and he signed with Temple last week so his name disappeared from our list. There were other offers to players that I don't remember what their names were, but they have all signed elsewhere.
There are legs to the news about the Canadian recruit we were recently showing interest in
Quote from: VU2014 on April 30, 2020, 12:13:15 PM
There is legs up the Canadian recruit we were showing interest in recently
what? ???
https://twitter.com/hoopsontherise/status/1251539238455214080?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1255947110920400897?s=21
Reminder that Quebec uses a system in education of 3 years of high school, 2 years of something called CEGEP which is like a college prep and then 3 years of a university. When Tavonn Walker and Max Joseph finished their CEGEP school they were given 4 years at Valpo.
Jean-de-Brébeuf of Montreal is a private college which is comparable to the public school CEGEP. Brebeuf includes in it's alumni Pierre and Justin Trudeau, Prime Ministers of Canada.
Wikipedia
Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf (French: [kɔ.lɛʒ ʒɑ̃ də bʁe.bœf]) is a private, previously Jesuit French-language educational institution offering secondary school and college-level instruction in Quebec. It was a boys' school but since 2014 admits both girls and boys.
The school is located at 3200 Côte-Sainte-Catherine Road. Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf is also a boarding school for college students wishing to reside at the college from Monday to Friday, and also during weekends.
Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf is commonly seen as one of the foremost schools in Canada and in Quebec, and it has the first place in the Fraser Institute School Ranking as of 2016.
With alumni Pierre Trudeau and Justin Trudeau, Brebeuf is the secondary education institution that has produced the most Canadian Prime ministers in the country. It also was the alma mater of Quebec Premiers Robert Bourassa and Pierre-Marc Johnson, and of Leaders of the Official Opposition of Quebec such as, André Boisclair and Pierre-Karl Péladeau.
Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf offers a number of two-year pre-university programs (unlike public colleges, it does not offer technical programs, which typically take around three years to complete and lead directly to certification for a specific trade or profession). Pre-university college degrees cover subject matter roughly equivalent to that of the additional year of high school given elsewhere in Canada in preparation for a chosen field of study in university.
Post-secondary students attending Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf can choose one of several programs of study, depending on the concentrations required for the university program in which they intend to pursue their studies. The college offers programs in Social Science, Literature & Communications, Health Science, Pure and Applied Science and Arts & Sciences.
Athletics
The school is known for being very competitive in basketball, lacrosse and fencing, having won provincial titles in basketball several times and having many of its former students fence at international levels. The school also competes at provincial and regional level hockey, volleyball, cheerleading, broomball, cross country running, badminton and rugby competitions. The school's lacrosse team has been in the finals for the four years it has played[when?] and has won the title three consecutive years.
RSEQ is the equivilent of the IHSA in Illinois, the IHSAA in Indiana and the WIAA in Wisconsin. It stands for Quebec Student Sport Network.
The Réseau du sport étudiant du Québec (RSEQ; literal translation: Quebec Student Sports Network) is the current name for the organisation formerly known as the Quebec Student Sports Federation (QSSF) in English. RSEQ is the governing body of primary and secondary school, collegiate and university sport in Quebec. It also serves as a regional membership association for Canadian universities which assists in co-ordinating competition between their university level athletic programs and providing contact information, schedules, results, and releases about those programs and events to the public and the media. This is similar to what would be called a "college athletic conference" in the United States.
The RSEQ, which covers Quebec, is one of four such bodies that are members of the country's governing body for university athletics, U Sports. The other three regional associations coordinating university-level sports in Canada are Ontario University Athletics (OUA), Atlantic University Sport (AUS), and the Canada West Universities Athletic Association (CW).
The RSEQ was initially known as the Quebec Universities Athletic Association (QUAA) when it was founded in 1971 with the reformulations of three university athletic associations spanning the universities of Ontario and Quebec. After the merger between the university, collegiate and high school governing bodies in 1989, the amalgamated association was named to the QSSF and then renamed RSEQ in November 2010.
As with all of Canada's provincial high school athletics associations, the RSEQ is an affiliate member of the United States-based National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) headquartered in Indianapolis next to the NCAA.
The class is complete! Matt has made it clear that he values athletes over giants and puts a premium on shooters. We've got a lot of both in this group!
http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19851/goodnews-kpegeol-joins-valpo-basketball-program/
Quote from: vu72 on May 06, 2020, 04:10:12 PM
The class is complete! Matt has made it clear that he values athletes over giants and puts a premium on shooters. We've got a lot of both in this group!
http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19851/goodnews-kpegeol-joins-valpo-basketball-program/
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Matt's 3rd consecutive stellar recruiting class, and possibly his best. My only regret is that I will be gone for several weeks in Oct. and Nov. and won't get to see those early games where everyone gets to play. Always fun.
I am curious as to why he left Kansas State after only 1 semester? Anybody read anything?
What I think is really interesting with this class is that 3 of the 4 guys are older, more mature and have already been playing against "freshman" D1 players for a year. Really looking forward to how this strategy works out. Connor Barrett has definitely been playing and practising against some high major talent a Brewster Academy while Sheldon Edwards has been putting up big numbers at TLAP Sports Academy and from the Twitter videos appears to be UBER athletic. From the USH Goodnews Kpegeol podcast the coach had some very good things to say and once again Goodnews appears to be someone who can put points on the board and play defense. I am excited to see how Jacob meshes with this group of slightly older more experienced players. Should be an exciting class that could come in ready and anxious to play!
Quote from: SanityLost17 on May 06, 2020, 06:15:22 PM
I am curious as to why he left Kansas State after only 1 semester? Anybody read anything?
Paul's latest USH episode has an interview with his Junior College coach that goes through his rather unique journey from High School, Prep School, Kansas State, JC, to VU.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on May 06, 2020, 06:15:22 PM
I am curious as to why he left Kansas State after only 1 semester? Anybody read anything?
One article said it was about wanting to get more playing time https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/why-goodnews-kpegeol-left-kansas-state-and-what-bruce-weber/article_eb645444-26f3-5086-ac7e-e8507fa8a0bf.html (https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/why-goodnews-kpegeol-left-kansas-state-and-what-bruce-weber/article_eb645444-26f3-5086-ac7e-e8507fa8a0bf.html).
Quote from: valpo95 on May 06, 2020, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on May 06, 2020, 06:15:22 PM
I am curious as to why he left Kansas State after only 1 semester? Anybody read anything?
One article said it was about wanting to get more playing time https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/why-goodnews-kpegeol-left-kansas-state-and-what-bruce-weber/article_eb645444-26f3-5086-ac7e-e8507fa8a0bf.html (https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/why-goodnews-kpegeol-left-kansas-state-and-what-bruce-weber/article_eb645444-26f3-5086-ac7e-e8507fa8a0bf.html).
Sounds like he transferred for more minutes. I am curious how many minutes he will get for us. We do have 4 seniors and 3 incoming freshman who appear to be solid, and you know Clay/Krikke/Sackey are going to get their minutes. I get that he was a fairly highly touted recruit out of high school but we all know that doesn't mean a whole lot. His numbers in JUCO were good but not fabulous for that level by any means.
I am still very high on Robinson. His numbers weren't great this year but he started off the year rusty and then was playing injured the majority of the season, I think he gets lots of minutes this next year. If Goodnews is a good basketball player I think that spells trouble for guys like Zion Morgan and we may not see him very much this year. Next guy to lose minutes probably Gordon. Gordon had some moments and at times was really hot from 3 but a large part of the season we didn't see much productivity from him. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Hopefully there is a real battle for playing time because everyone is as good as advertised and guys like Gordon step up as seniors and are super productive after a year in the system.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on May 08, 2020, 03:43:16 PMSounds like he transferred for more minutes. I am curious how many minutes he will get for us. We do have 4 seniors and 3 incoming freshman who appear to be solid, and you know Clay/Krikke/Sackey are going to get their minutes.
Injuries have been a constant curse. I wonder how this extended period without access to trainers and quasi-organized workouts will impact injuries. Will the lack of conditioning increase the likelihood or will the bodies be a bit more refreshed
Former Valpo recruit. He originally committed to Wake Forest. He later decommitted and committed to Western Illinois University. His AAU coach Nick Irvin (of the Mac Irvin Fire family AAU team) was recently hire as an assistant coach. He's a legit Top 5 player in IL and a pure PG.
Recruiting is a relationship business. Went from ACC to Summit League.
https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1271953424049938440?s=21
I've never felt any negativity towards WIU, in spite of some spirited rivalries prior to my arrival at Valpo in 1999-2000. It was always just another game in each sport. Good to see them potentially turning the corner again.
Valpo adds a walk-on for 2020:
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19872/tyler-fricke-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-as-walk-on/
Quote from: valpopal on June 16, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
Valpo adds a walk-on for 2020:
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19872/tyler-fricke-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-as-walk-on/
So we will have four walk-ons? That's a bunch of players!
Quote from: vu72 on June 16, 2020, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: valpopal on June 16, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
Valpo adds a walk-on for 2020:
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19872/tyler-fricke-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-as-walk-on/
So we will have four walk-ons? That's a bunch of players!
You can never have too many (hopefully) high character guys who will push your scholarship players in practice. Great for team chemistry.
Kiser showed you can make the most out of that opportunity.
Quote from: vu72 on June 16, 2020, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: valpopal on June 16, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
Valpo adds a walk-on for 2020:
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19872/tyler-fricke-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-as-walk-on/
So we will have four walk-ons? That's a bunch of players!
Walk-on's come and go quite a bit. It's anyone's guess how many of last year's guys will return.
Quote from: wh on June 16, 2020, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 16, 2020, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: valpopal on June 16, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
Valpo adds a walk-on for 2020:
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19872/tyler-fricke-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-as-walk-on/
So we will have four walk-ons? That's a bunch of players!
Walk-on's come and go quite a bit. It's anyone's guess how many of last year's guys will return.
What ever happened to Langston Stalling? Did he leave the University? He was on a full academic scholarship
EDIT: judging from his twitter profile, he transferred to play baseball at PNW https://twitter.com/Boutabucket_13
Interesting. I'm curious if he transferred for baseball. There was talk of him playing for valpo baseball
https://twitter.com/nwi/status/1273035171051298816?s=20
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Quote from: VUBBFan on March 15, 2020, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 15, 2020, 05:59:42 PMQuote from: VU2014 on March 15, 2020, 01:31:00 PMRandom thought. We should have Steven Helm back next season as a walk-on. He's going to comeback from his Mormon Mission. He probably hasn't played basketbball much the last 2 years but it should still be nice to have a mature voice in the locker-room and someone who will compete in practice. Plus it's a bonus that he's a local kid.
He's also supposedly an AMAZING foul shooter. Put him in when we need to ice games!
I would not expect much at all from him. He is an excellent free throw shooter, but remember he spent one season already with Valpo and barely saw the court. Don't see him having much more than a few minutes next season. Hopefully he will contribute greatly in practice.
I think he was a redshirt the one year with Valpo. He last played in 2016-17 at Carroll in Montana.
Should get to know Steven Helm's father this Fall. He is currently one of the assistant coaches for the Angola Hornets Boys Varsity team. Saw him at the Trine University High School Boy's Team summer camp event. I know some of the coaches were asking him about his son and Valpo. Could be interesting to talk to a parent about the program.
Quote from: valpotx on June 15, 2020, 04:42:48 PMI've never felt any negativity towards WIU, in spite of some spirited rivalries prior to my arrival at Valpo in 1999-2000. It was always just another game in each sport. Good to see them potentially turning the corner again.
Methinks they are angling for and will eventually receive membership in the OVC, once a certain conference makes a move for a certain OVC school and opens up a spot.
I see that freshman Jacob Ognacevic was the third leading scorer in the nation last year at 39.4 PPG.
https://www.maxpreps.com/leaders/basketball-winter-19-20/,scoring/stat-leaders.htm
Quote from: wh on August 26, 2020, 10:02:25 AM
I see that freshman Jacob Ognacevic was the third leading scorer in the nation last year at 39.4 PPG.
https://www.maxpreps.com/leaders/basketball-winter-19-20/,scoring/stat-leaders.htm
Third, yes, but check out the shooting percentages! 73% overall, 49% from the 3 and 86% from the line!
Quote from: vu72 on August 26, 2020, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: wh on August 26, 2020, 10:02:25 AM
I see that freshman Jacob Ognacevic was the third leading scorer in the nation last year at 39.4 PPG.
https://www.maxpreps.com/leaders/basketball-winter-19-20/,scoring/stat-leaders.htm
Third, yes, but check out the shooting percentages! 73% overall, 49% from the 3 and 86% from the line!
Those are crazy good numbers. Just getting close to that kind of production his Freshman year would be wonderful. I would be happy if he is around 55% for 2's and mid to upper 30% from 3 this year. Going to be a little harder to get his shot off at the MVC level.
If he can get to the line at a decent rate and hit 85% that would be outstanding!
I think this kid is going to be really exciting to watch this year.
https://twitter.com/sheldonnn13/status/1299502976793554951
https://twitter.com/sheldonnn13/status/1299502216018100229
TRAVELING!!!!!! Seriously. so good to see the guys in the new practice facility. Bet the air conditoning feel great!
Spoiled kids and their A/C. Back in my day... :)
Valpo has been putting out stories on our freshman:
Here are the first two if you haven't seen them:
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2020-21/19913/valpo-gains-special-player-in-freshman-jacob-ognacevic/
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2020-21/19911/work-ethic-passion-help-freshman-connor-barrett-elevate-basketball-career/