Thought I'd start this one up to collect any football news that doesn't involve recruiting or the player roster (both already covered).
On another thread a question came up about the 2018 Schedule. I started to look at some postings on the PFL site and a few teams have already posted their schedules for next season. Here's what I noticed regarding games scheduled with Valpo.
9/1
9/8
9/15 @ Youngstown State
9/22
9/29
10/6 @ Dayton
10/13 Butler
10/20
10/27
11/3 @ Marist
11/10 Jacksonville
11/17 @ Stetson
Of note, Butler announced their 2018 schedule and Youngstown State is listed as their body bag game 9/1. So I Checked EKU and they are bringing in Morehead for a sacrificial slaughter on that date. Further investigation indicates we will have 2 games under our belt before we meet YSU (finally, we don't open with a body bag game!!!). We catch YSU after they play a guarantee game @ West Virginia. Hopefully we open with a NAIA school followed by Duquesne. That's a good progression toward YSU.
I would bag the NAIA school.
Is it asking too much for a goal of winning the Pioneer conference?
By bagging, USC, do you mean just leave that date open and have a 10 game schedule? If so why?
All (well, usually all) PFL Teams play (1) a body bag game plus (2) a NEC, Big South, Ivy FCS caliber team or perhaps a high level NCAA D-II team and then (3) one ham and egger (Most of the time I am seeing D-III or NAIA schools, like, Butler has been playing Taylor, a D-III). MLB has committed to the same structure. The ham and egger is usually NAIA (who give scholarships, BTW). Then there is a more competitive FCS school like Duquesne or Sacred Heart.
Funny, unti Dave turned the competitiveness up a notch we couldn't even beat the ham & eggers.
ok, I am ok with that. I would have liked to see a Patriot league or bad Ivy League team like Cornell
Actually, me too. But we have to earn that type of schedule. We are not there yet but getting closer. I am very jealous of Butler, Stetson, Jacksonville, etc. who have Ivies on their current schedules. During the Carlson era, I was still living in Massachusetts and did a little in person amateur scouting for him at two games on the same weekend: USD @ Harvard in the afternoon and Butler @ Darthmouth in the evening. Both of them hung in pretty well but lost. Personally I wish we would stop the body bag games and always schedule Ivy, Patriot and NEC opponents.
9/1
9/8
9/15 @ Youngstown State
9/22
9/29 Campbell - Homecoming 1PM
10/6 @ Dayton
10/13 Butler
10/20
10/27
11/3 @ Marist
11/10 Jacksonville
11/17 @ Stetson
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 15, 2018, 11:19:47 PM
Actually, me too. But we have to earn that type of schedule. We are not there yet but getting closer. I am very jealous of Butler, Stetson, Jacksonville, etc. who have Ivies on their current schedules. During the Carlson era, I was still living in Massachusetts and did a little in person amateur scouting for him at two games on the same weekend: USD @ Harvard in the afternoon and Butler @ Darthmouth in the evening. Both of them hung in pretty well but lost. Personally I wish we would stop the body bag games and always schedule Ivy, Patriot and NEC opponents.
I sure like the sound of playing Dartmouth or Yale versus Youngstown State! But, these "body bag" games are getting closer as we improve--witness the Montana game--and, we would not be paid to play an Ivy or NEC or Patriot game and I suspect the pay days are important to the program and also, as Coach C has said, the players want to play the scholarship teams.
Quote from: vu72 on February 16, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 15, 2018, 11:19:47 PM
Actually, me too. But we have to earn that type of schedule. We are not there yet but getting closer. I am very jealous of Butler, Stetson, Jacksonville, etc. who have Ivies on their current schedules. During the Carlson era, I was still living in Massachusetts and did a little in person amateur scouting for him at two games on the same weekend: USD @ Harvard in the afternoon and Butler @ Darthmouth in the evening. Both of them hung in pretty well but lost. Personally I wish we would stop the body bag games and always schedule Ivy, Patriot and NEC opponents.
I sure like the sound of playing Dartmouth or Yale versus Youngstown State! But, these "body bag" games are getting closer as we improve--witness the Montana game--and, we would not be paid to play an Ivy or NEC or Patriot game and I suspect the pay days are important to the program and also, as Coach C has said, the players want to play the scholarship teams.
Yeah, I know the body bag games are important for the progress of the program, but I don't like them as much as I would playing the Ivy League schools.
Quote from: talksalot on February 16, 2018, 09:45:27 AM
9/1
9/8
9/15 @ Youngstown State
9/22
9/29 Campbell - Homecoming 1PM
10/6 @ Dayton
10/13 Butler
10/20
10/27
11/3 @ Marist
11/10 Jacksonville
11/17 @ Stetson
I don't think the Campbell addition is accurate.
Here is the link to Campbell's 2018 posted schedule: It shows no Valpo (and no other PFL teams) and on the 29th they play North Alabama at home. It also includes a full 5 game Big South schedule.
http://gocamels.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=222
my source is the Homecoming meeting notes from the Alumni Office that lists this game for us. that's NOT an Athletics Department release.
That alumni thing might have come from something that predated Campbell leaving the PFL as of the end of 2017?
quite possible :)
The Campbell vs North Alabama game is also mentioned in one of their schedule news story's. So it won't be Campbell. It will probably be a league game and possibly against whichever team fills in for Campbell on the PFL schedule....Davidson or San Diego. Neither of those teams have put out their 2018 schedule.
Quote from: JD24 on February 16, 2018, 05:09:50 PM
The Campbell vs North Alabama game is also mentioned in one of their schedule news story's. So it won't be Campbell. It will probably be a league game and possibly against whichever team fills in for Campbell on the PFL schedule....Davidson or San Diego. Neither of those teams have put out their 2018 schedule.
I'll take............Davidson! ;)
Quote from: vu72 on February 16, 2018, 06:00:18 PMQuote from: JD24 on February 16, 2018, 05:09:50 PMThe Campbell vs North Alabama game is also mentioned in one of their schedule news story's. So it won't be Campbell. It will probably be a league game and possibly against whichever team fills in for Campbell on the PFL schedule....Davidson or San Diego. Neither of those teams have put out their 2018 schedule.
I'll take............Davidson! ;)
That's a tough one. I'll consider all the facts prior to deciding which would be the better option for your 2018 Crusader Football Squad.
Apparently the PFL schedule has been determined cuz others have released theirs. Why not releas3 a partial sch3dule with PFL only games and the follow up with the OOC?
The 9-29 game can eliminate Morehead State as they are Butler's opponent that day. Can't be San Diego as they are playing Stetson. Cant be Drake as they are playing Jax. Valpo's scheduled vs every other team at some other point on the schedule.
That leaves Davidson as a PFL opponent for that game. That may be good since I don't think both San Diego and Davidson will be added to Valpo's schedule this year as this is the 2nd year after the opponent home and home switch. Of course, if Davidson already has a game scheduled against another opponent for that day, it may be a non conference opponent which means that one of the first two weeks would be in conference which is unusual but some teams do it. Seems that Stetson and Marist have played week 2 recently. It could also mean San Diego is added rather than Davidson on another date.
edit: Since the rest of the PFL is occupied on 9-29, Valpo and Davidson would have to be playing each other unless either team has a non conference game scheduled 5 weeks into the season. We probably can safely put Davidson for 9-29's Homecoming Game.
9-8 is probably the Dukes as they appear to be available both 9-1 and 9-8. This would set the Dukes schedule up the same as last year when they played Valpo and Dayton on consecutive weekends. Dayton plays the Dukes on 9-16. So it would appear the schedule is lacking a lower level team for week 1.
Quote from: JD24 on February 16, 2018, 08:32:04 PM
9-8 is probably the Dukes as they appear to be available both 9-1 and 9-8. This would set the Dukes schedule up the same as last year when they played Valpo and Dayton on consecutive weekends. Dayton plays the Dukes on 9-16. So it would appear the schedule is lacking a lower level team for week 1.
Ahah! That leaves the first game to either a D-II, NAIA, or a (hope not) D-III. That would be a challenging, progressive path to YSU and we could be 2-0 going into that game.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 16, 2018, 09:31:45 PMQuote from: JD24 on February 16, 2018, 08:32:04 PM9-8 is probably the Dukes as they appear to be available both 9-1 and 9-8. This would set the Dukes schedule up the same as last year when they played Valpo and Dayton on consecutive weekends. Dayton plays the Dukes on 9-16. So it would appear the schedule is lacking a lower level team for week 1.
Ahah! That leaves the first game to either a D-II, NAIA, or a (hope not) D-III. That would be a challenging, progressive path to YSU and we could be 2-0 going into that game.
I prefer the opposite approach. Play the money game first. Then the home and home and then the game we win the week prior to the start of conference play.
But it appears that at least for this next season we are stuck with a third week body bag game. Of course, I failed to mention earlier that after YSU we insert a bye week to lick our wounds ;D
I can respect playing the body bag game to get the paycheck. But I would rather see similar opponents than play the ham and egged, for which a Valpo football goal is to not depend on that for success. A game against Trinity or College of Faith or Missouri Baptist has no value.
I can respect playing the body bag game to get the paycheck. But I would rather see similar opponents than play the ham and egged, for which a Valpo football goal is to not depend on that for success. A game against Trinity or College of Faith or Missouri Baptist has no value.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 17, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
I can respect playing the body bag game to get the paycheck. But I would rather see similar opponents than play the ham and egged, for which a Valpo football goal is to not depend on that for success. A game against Trinity or College of Faith or Missouri Baptist has no value.
I disagree those games allow everyone to play which is valuable, removing College of Faith From the discussion. Big time schools do it, not sure why we shouldn't.
One thing regarding the schedule is that last year's schedule was officially released on March 7th and I don't think that was out of the ordinary in terms of timing.
IndyValpo - quite honestly, I do not like when the big schools schedule ham and eggers. Who wants to see that? People want to see competition, not a warm fuzzy blowout. Alabama facing Mercer late in the season is ridiculas.
It's not ridiculous when you sell out your 101,800 capacity stadium (Bryant-Denny) for Mercer (read $$$$$$$$$$$$). And then treat those attending fans to a massive blowout. Yeah, its a sham, but big time football is about the money. It also was a strategic step in prepping the team for the SEC playoffs. Remember that Mercer only lost to Auburn 24-10 (but, of course, they didn't realize that would happen when they put the schedule together).
As a fan of footballl and for the love of competition, I believe scheduling ham and egged games like that is a joke. Alabama has at least 60 four or higher star athletes, and they have to schedule a bogus game against Mercer? I am also referring to other teams besides Alabama that does this. The game becomes an awful scrimmage with fans getting the shaft.
At least you would never see this from USC or Notre Dame - they have never scheduled a 1-AA opponent.
MIT either ;D
MIT will take on anybody in H-infinity control showdown!!
anyway, is Valpo ready to complete for the Pioneer conference title and face NDSU in the first round?
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 18, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
MIT will take on anybody in H-infinity control showdown!!
anyway, is Valpo ready to complete for the Pioneer conference title and face NDSU in the first round?
And Valpo will kick any FBS school's butt in Robotics FB — just ask Notre Dame.
To answer your question..... Is any PFL champion ready to face NDSU? I sincerely believe the PFL's realistic goal (given our non-scholarship status) is just to win the first round game (as the perennial 32 seed) and then at least be respectable in the next round against a top seed — #2 NDSU in 2017. USD did that this past season by first beating Northern Arizona from the Big Sky 41-10 (BTW, Montana beat NAU by a sounder score than they beat us). Then they lost by
only 35 points in Fargo. Quite an accomplishment. If each PFL champion could do this fairly consistently, it would be worth some bragging rights and put us at the same respect level as the Patriot League or NEC which both offer scholarships.
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 17, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 17, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
I can respect playing the body bag game to get the paycheck. But I would rather see similar opponents than play the ham and egged, for which a Valpo football goal is to not depend on that for success. A game against Trinity or College of Faith or Missouri Baptist has no value.
I disagree those games allow everyone to play which is valuable, removing College of Faith From the discussion. Big time schools do it, not sure why we shouldn't.
I also think that coaches at those Div. II & III and NAIA schools get hired by middle size Div. I schools and they remember who gave them a game when they were at the smaller school. This is future schedule seeding at it's finest. Homer Drew was very good at this. Wonder why he no longer is seen at Valpo after giving so much to Valpo? Oh yeah. Even Homer believed that you should get back for what is given.
Quote from: bbtds on February 19, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 17, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 17, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
I can respect playing the body bag game to get the paycheck. But I would rather see similar opponents than play the ham and egged, for which a Valpo football goal is to not depend on that for success. A game against Trinity or College of Faith or Missouri Baptist has no value.
I disagree those games allow everyone to play which is valuable, removing College of Faith From the discussion. Big time schools do it, not sure why we shouldn't.
I also think that coaches at those Div. II & III and NAIA schools get hired by middle size Div. I schools and they remember who gave them a game when they were at the smaller school. This is future schedule seeding at it's finest. Homer Drew was very good at this. Wonder why he no longer is seen at Valpo after giving so much to Valpo? Oh yeah. Even Homer believed that you should get back for what is given.
Totally lost me on this comment. :crazy:
me too. Not sure where it is going. I guess for Valpo I can accept a true ham and egger, but certainly not major college programs.
Out of curiosity, could a PFL team schedule a PFL team as a non-conference game since I don't think any of the teams play all of of the teams in the league?
Also, is there any relationship between VU and Austin Peay? Would an old PFL foe look at rekindling a rivalry?
That's an intriguing part 1 question OR63. I suppose they could as long as it was clear that that particular game was not to count in the standings. I'm wondering why you would do that, however. Mostly, I think that the OOC games keep things fresh. Admittedly it might be a more easily done deal. For Valpo the only games of this nature that make sense to me would be bus trip games -- Butler, Morehead, Dayton, Drake -- because of cost.
Austin Peay is a scholarship OVC team. They did schedule Morehead this past season and killed them 69-13. They also had 3 FBS schools (Miami (O), Cincinnati, and UCF) on their schedule. Wound up 8-4 with their only FCS loss to Jacksonville State. They beat EKU 31-24 along the way. Don't know if their budget would provide for a "buy" game involving Valpo.
Perhaps one of our OOC games for 2018?
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/meac/article_9c33ff0a-d703-568e-83ac-6fa037b8f417.html
San Diego's schedule is out and Valpo is not on it.
Quote from: JD24 on February 26, 2018, 05:27:56 PM
San Diego's schedule is out and Valpo is not on it.
YAY! :thumbsup: That means Davidson right? We have some experience with a triple option (they have a new coach who is bringing it in) — hope we get them early in the season
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 21, 2018, 10:08:31 AM
Perhaps one of our OOC games for 2018?
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/meac/article_9c33ff0a-d703-568e-83ac-6fa037b8f417.html
Of course the MEAC is not suing the Big South for "stealing" one of their members. That would be silly, right?
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 26, 2018, 06:57:11 PMQuote from: JD24 on February 26, 2018, 05:27:56 PMSan Diego's schedule is out and Valpo is not on it.
YAY! :thumbsup: That means Davidson right? We have some experience with a triple option (they have a new coach who is bringing it in) — hope we get them early in the season
I'll guess Davidson is the Homecoming opponent. Both teams appear to have no scheduled games that weekend, it is within the conference schedule period and every other PFL team already has a known opponent for the weekend of 9-29
Quote from: JD24 on February 27, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 26, 2018, 06:57:11 PMQuote from: JD24 on February 26, 2018, 05:27:56 PMSan Diego's schedule is out and Valpo is not on it.
YAY! :thumbsup: That means Davidson right? We have some experience with a triple option (they have a new coach who is bringing it in) — hope we get them early in the season
I'll guess Davidson is the Homecoming opponent. Both teams appear to have no scheduled games that weekend, it is within the conference schedule period and every other PFL team already has a known opponent for the weekend of 9-29
That's the 5th week of the season -- it's not the earliest, but better than near the end when their new offense will be much improved. If this stands, it will also be good to have a very competitive game for Homecoming.
All the PFL teams have their PFL schedules already. Some have released their entire 2018 schedule. Some have not. It would be good if the PFL released the League Master Schedule to the public at the time it is approved. Then let the schools release their completed schedules with OOC games when they finalize them.
Just reiterating #62's post... taking out my erroneous mention of Campbell... and showing where else I looked...Too bad we don't have St. Joe's to kick around anymore...and I didn't bother to look up Grand Valley State.... adding a look at the OOC's for the opponents...
September 1:
September 8:
Valpo @Youngstown State 9/15 - http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2018-19/schedule
'Guins are hosting Butler and Valpo; and play at West Virginia on 9/8
September 22:
September 29 (Homecoming):
Valpo @ Dayton on 10/6 - http://daytonflyers.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Flyers OOC: Robert Morris (Home), @ Southeast Missouri, @ Duquesne
Butler @ Valpo on 10/13 - http://butlersports.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
THEIR OOC: @ Youngstown; @ Taylor (Upland) ; Hosting Princeton
October 20:
October 27:
Valpo @ Marist on 11/3 - http://www.goredfoxes.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Marist OOC: Georgetown (Home) @ Bryant (RI) and @ Columbia (on 10/6, after playing two PFL games on 9/22 and 9/29)
Jacksonville @ Valpo on 11/10 - http://www.judolphins.com/sports/fball/2018-19/schedule
Dolphins OOC: St. Augustines (Home), @ Mercer, Walsh (Home)
Valpo @ Stetson on 11/17 - http://www.gohatters.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Hatters OOC: Point Univ (Home); Waldorf (IA) Home; @ Presbyterian
San Diego Released... we're not on it
Torero's OOC: Western New Mexico (Home); @ UC Davis; @ Harvard
Davidson: Not Released
Drake: Not Released
Morehead State: Not Released
Campbell: Not Released
Presbyterian: We're not on it
Duquesne: Not Released
Sacred Heart: Not Released
Dartmouth: Not Released
St. Francis (IL): Not Released
Wisconsin Lutheran: We're not on it
Alabama: We're not on it
Vanderbilt: We're not on it
And we were THIS close to playing Alabama too!
Yeah, I got almost the same open dates. My guess is that, if what JD24 says is correct, 9/29 Davison and either 9/22 or 9/27 10/27 for Drake. I have Morehead in the 10/27 slot for some reason.
and, #62, your long-time-ago posting says we are Duquesne in September... and NEXT year we'll pick up the pay-to-get-here game at Eastern Kentucky...before we get another crack at the Ivy League
I thought Valpo would choose from the conference St. Francis (IL) and Taylor are in. None of the teams has released a schedule although Butler already has Taylor. It's not a big conference so there's room for OOC games. They are also fairly local.
BTW, I meant to list Drake at either 9/22 or 10/27.
We ID St. Francis IL. How about St. Francis IN?
We do not want to play St. Francis of IN (located in Ft.Wayne). They have been National Champs the last 2 years in their Division.
So? ........... Many here have said kick it up a notch. Are they as good as YSU? Can they compete in the NEC? WTF, go for it.
I checked St. Francis IN... we're not on the Cougar's schedule, either.
but Morehead State has released...
September 1:
September 8:
Valpo @Youngstown State 9/15 - http://www.ysusports.com/sports/fball/2018-19/schedule
'Guins are hosting Butler and Valpo; and play at West Virginia on 9/8
September 22:
September 29 (Homecoming):
Valpo @ Dayton on 10/6 - http://daytonflyers.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Flyers OOC: Robert Morris (Home), @ Southeast Missouri, @ Duquesne
Butler @ Valpo on 10/13 - http://butlersports.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
THEIR OOC: @ Youngstown; @ Taylor (Upland) ; Hosting Princeton
October 20: Valpo @ Morehead State - https://www.msueagles.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=160
Eagles OOC: @ Eastern Kentucky; Mount St. Joseph (Home); Austin Peay (Home)
October 27:
Valpo @ Marist on 11/3 - http://www.goredfoxes.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Marist OOC: Georgetown (Home) @ Bryant (RI) and @ Columbia (on 10/6, after playing two PFL games on 9/22 and 9/29)
Jacksonville @ Valpo on 11/10 - http://www.judolphins.com/sports/fball/2018-19/schedule
Dolphins OOC: St. Augustines (Home), @ Mercer, Walsh (Home)
Valpo @ Stetson on 11/17 - http://www.gohatters.com/schedule.aspx?path=football
Hatters OOC: Point Univ (Home); Waldorf (IA) Home; @ Presbyterian
San Diego Released... we're not on it
Torero's OOC: Western New Mexico (Home); @ UC Davis; @ Harvard
Davidson: Not Released
Drake: Not Released
Campbell: Not Released
Presbyterian: We're not on it
Duquesne: Not Released
Sacred Heart: Not Released
Dartmouth: Not Released
St. Francis (IL): Not Released
Wisconsin Lutheran: We're not on it
Alabama: We're not on it
Vanderbilt: We're not on it
Quote from: JD24 on February 27, 2018, 05:11:56 PMconference St. Francis (IL) and Taylor are in.
That's the "Mid-States Football Association (MSFA) Conference" They have two divisions: "Midwest League" and "Mideast League"
Midwest League division:
Olivet Nazarene - Not Released
St. Francis - Ill - Not on the schedule
St. Xavier - Not on the schedule (Illinois State is)
St. Ambrose - Not Released
Robert Morris - Not Released
Trinity International - Not Released
Mideast League
St. Francis - Ind - Not on the schedule
Concordia - Ann Arbor - Not Released
Marian - not released
Siena Heights - not released
Taylor - not released
Missouri Baptist - Not Released
Lindenwood-Belleville - we are not on it
looking at the 2017 schedules; almost every team played exclusively within the association; every team in their division; plus enough cross-over games to fill out an 11-game schedule. St. Xavier and TIU were unique with a D1 scheduled game...
Quote from: talksalot on February 28, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
I checked St. Francis IN... we're not on the Cougar's schedule, either.
but Morehead State has released...
Lots of work digging through the schedules - Thanks.
Superficially (with little analysis going into it) looking at released PFL OOC schedules, it appears the toughest to the easiest schedules could be:
Morehead : EKU and Austin Peay (both tough OVC teams)
Dayton: Southeast Missouri, Duqesne and Robert Morris (PA) (all winnable but no cream puffs)
Marist: Columbia, Bryant and Georgetown (All challenges; G'Town and Marist are about even year in and year out)
Butler: YSU and Princeton (Plus Taylor - NAIA)
Valpo: YSU and Duquesne (assuming an NAIA or D-II third OOC game)
USD: UC Davis and Harvard (USD crushed Davis last year; Harvard no push over)
JU: Mercer (plus 2 small schools)
Stetson: Prebyterian (weak SoCon school giving up scholarship FB plus two small schools - could be 3-0 heading into PFL play)
Still TBD:
Drake: @ Montana and then???
Davidson: ???
Quote from: talksalot on February 28, 2018, 08:44:11 AMQuote from: JD24 on February 27, 2018, 05:11:56 PMconference St. Francis (IL) and Taylor are in.
That's the "Mid-States Football Association (MSFA) Conference" They have two divisions: "Midwest League" and "Mideast League" Midwest League division: Olivet Nazarene - Not Released St. Francis - Ill - Not on the schedule St. Xavier - Not on the schedule (Illinois State is) St. Ambrose - Not Released Robert Morris - Not Released Trinity International - Not Released Mideast League St. Francis - Ind - Not on the schedule Concordia - Ann Arbor - Not Released Marian - not released Siena Heights - not released Taylor - not released Missouri Baptist - Not Released Lindenwood-Belleville - we are not on it looking at the 2017 schedules; almost every team played exclusively within the association; every team in their division; plus enough cross-over games to fill out an 11-game schedule. St. Xavier and TIU were unique with a D1 scheduled game...
Butler played Taylor last season and is playing them again this season. Missouri Baptist has played Valpo in the past. That's why I thought the league could be a choice for an OOC opponent for Valpo.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 28, 2018, 10:54:36 AMStetson: Prebyterian (weak SoCon school giving up scholarship FB plus two small schools - could be 3-0 heading into PFL play)
Last year Stetson went all in on the OOC games and scheduled Sacred Heart (2nd of a H&H), Dartmouth and Brown(2nd of a H&H). They were beaten up pretty good by both Sacred Heart and Dartmouth but beat Brown for the 2nd year in a row. I think last year was thought of as a stepping stone season (similar to the way Valpo fans view the upcoming season) and things didn't go their way.
This year they've backed off a lot although Presbyterian may still be formidable. There's no way of knowing what shape PU's roster is in however last year they beat Campbell and St. Francis PA out of the NEC
I see THEIR games with Taylor were setup as a Home-N-Home... this year THEY go to Turner Stadium in Upland...
Turner Stadium has a seating capacity of 4,400 with ample room for overflow crowds. A press box is situated above the west stands and contains areas for members of the media, officials, coaches, radio stations and guests.
http://athletics.taylor.edu/f/facilities_turner_stadium.php
The Taylor facilities are first rate for a smaller school. In adition to Turner Stadium which is very nice, they have an indoor field house, outdoor all weatehr track, nice BB and softball fields.
Quote from: talksalot on February 28, 2018, 04:30:13 PMI see THEIR games with Taylor were setup as a Home-N-Home... this year THEY go to Turner Stadium in Upland... Turner Stadium has a seating capacity of 4,400 with ample room for overflow crowds. A press box is situated above the west stands and contains areas for members of the media, officials, coaches, radio stations and guests. http://athletics.taylor.edu/f/facilities_turner_stadium.php
Is the reason for the all CAPS because you don't want to type the name of the school or is there some other reason I'm completely missing?
Not sure if Drake's OOC opponents are mentioned somewhere in this maze of spectacular information and research but they have William Jewel, Montana and Missouri S&T the first three weekends. 9-22 seems like a logical date to play Valpo and would be the same weekend as last year's game.
Quote from: JD24 on February 28, 2018, 08:05:02 PMIs the reason for the all CAPS because you don't want to type the name of the school
what school? you mean that wide-spot in the road just west of Meridian St ? THAT team who only gets a PA announcement at Football or Basketball if they are LOSING? THAT team? That Team that scoffed at the suggestion of a basketball game? THAT team that delivered the Hoosier Helmet to us at their own field?
gee... I hadn't noticed.
Drake vs. Valpo is 10-27 based on the Drake schedule released.
That means we get a bye before opening our PFL season with Homecoming vs. Davidson. :thumbsup: It also gives us an extra week to recover from YSU. :-[
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 01, 2018, 05:27:51 PMThat means we get a bye before opening our PFL season with Homecoming vs. Davidson. :thumbsup: It also gives us an extra week to recover from YSU. :-[
What's strange is that it appears that most of the PFL is taking their bye that particular week although Davidson is playing Dayton on 9-22.
Duquense schedule released and the Duke will host Valpo on Sept 8th.
That leaves Sept 1, 22 and 29 (Homecoming) up in the air to fill two opponents (one league) and, likely, beat 'em up game. Unless Valpo schedules a bye for Homecoming, the opponent will be Davidson. The only currently unscheduled PFL team for 9-29 is Davidson (based on every other PFL team's schedule) and Davidson already has a PFL opponent scheduled for 9-22. So unless Valpo is going to play Davidson week 1, that game has to be 9-29. Both 9-1 and 9-22 could be either a bye or cream puff.
Do ya think we might open a week later than usual (September 8 @ Duquesne), play @ YSU on the 15th and then play a D-II/NAIA school on the 22nd and go right into the PFL season? That setup would mean no byes.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 07, 2018, 04:12:52 PMDo ya think we might open a week later than usual (September 8 @ Duquesne), play @ TSU on the 15th and then play a D-II NAIA school on the 22nd and go right into the PFL season? That setup would mean no byes.
It could happen, I guess. Particularly if the D-II/NAIA school wasn't available on the 1st weekend and they are available on the 22nd. Not much different, in a sense, from a few years ago when Valpo finished with a bye. The team still gets no in season break.
The season is actually beginning the weekend before (Last weekend in Aug) with a number of games. So, if the bye week is week 1, it will seem like an eternity for the team to play it's first game.
Out of conference next year Duquesne Youngstown truman state
Truman State is in the GLVC. Conference champion as recently as 2016. Same conference as William Jewell who Valpo has played in recent years. Loss in 13. W in 14. Same conference as St. Joseph's which closed last year. St. Joseph's and Valpo had a long history vs each other with the Puma's winning the last 8 games.
This game, unless Truman has fallen apart, is unlikely to be a walkover as the last two beatdown games vs. Trinity Intl. have been.
Quote from: JD24 on March 15, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Truman State is in the GLVC. Conference champion as recently as 2016. Same conference as William Jewell who Valpo has played in recent years. Loss in 13. W in 14. Same conference as St. Joseph's which closed last year. St. Joseph's and Valpo had a long history vs each other with the Puma's winning the last 8 games.
This game, unless Truman has fallen apart, is unlikely to be a walkover as the last two beatdown games vs. Trinity Intl. have been.
Definitely agree on the upgrade in competition. That's a good move. However, they have not been a consistent D-II juggernaut. Since 2015 they have had one winning season (2016: 8-3, Conference Champ) bookended by, I believe, 5-6 seasons. Since our William Jewel days, I'd say we have raised our bar a bit, so we should do ok - but not 30+ point margins like the past two with TIU. .
Unrelated but Martin Petruf sophomore tight end will not be returning
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 18, 2018, 05:56:41 PMUnrelated but Martin Petruf sophomore tight end will not be returning
Kluck probably ahead of him anyway. A little shaky on the depth here if there's an injury.
Quote from: JD24 on March 19, 2018, 11:41:55 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 18, 2018, 05:56:41 PMUnrelated but Martin Petruf sophomore tight end will not be returning
Kluck probably ahead of him anyway. A little shaky on the depth here if there's an injury.
I presume that analyzing your spot on the depth chart is always part of a players mindset and particularly where the cost of a Valpo education is involved. As for depth, I suspect some players might be converted to play tight end. With no idea as to specific ability, there is a freshman coming in at 6'4" 210# and listed as an offensive linemen. Hmm, might just be a really good blocking Tight end!
Quote from: vu72 on March 19, 2018, 01:19:39 PMQuote from: JD24 on March 19, 2018, 11:41:55 AMQuote from: valpofb16 on March 18, 2018, 05:56:41 PMUnrelated but Martin Petruf sophomore tight end will not be returning
Kluck probably ahead of him anyway. A little shaky on the depth here if there's an injury.
I presume that analyzing your spot on the depth chart is always part of a players mindset and particularly where the cost of a Valpo education is involved. As for depth, I suspect some players might be converted to play tight end. With no idea as to specific ability, there is a freshman coming in at 6'4" 210# and listed as an offensive linemen. Hmm, might just be a really good blocking Tight end!
We had a discussion about his TE potential since 210 seemed a bit light for an OL. He's a bit light for an inline TE as well. A defensive coach sees a TE at that size lining up and it becomes a spot to attack. There may be other, better, immediate options in terms of converting a player's position if necessary and I'd bet the coaches have been aware of the player not coming back for a while now.
Know coaches are high on Kluck, Petruf lost spot to Clarke throughout season, we used two tight ends in 2016 (Petruf, Sutter), last year used a lot of Sutter and Clarke and a bit of Petruf, look for Kluck and Sutter to really maintain most reps with Bittner or fb Martin taking spot reps
Truman State will be far from a walk over based on their history. For 100 years they played in the Missouri Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, which almost annually had a team in contention for the DII championship, most notably Northwest Missouri State. In 2013-14 they switched to the GLVC, mostly due to geographic/travel considerations they say, but also because they were consistently near the bottom of the MIAA in football. They've never had less than a .500 record in the GLVC and were co-champs as recently as 2016. Playing on the road against a team closer to our level than Youngstown, this will be another good test along with Duquesne to see how much we're progressing.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 19, 2018, 02:52:35 PMKnow coaches are high on Kluck, Petruf lost spot to Clarke throughout season, we used two tight ends in 2016 (Petruf, Sutter), last year used a lot of Sutter and Clarke and a bit of Petruf, look for Kluck and Sutter to really maintain most reps with Bittner or fb Martin taking spot reps
Brett Fox was around in 2016 and played a little bit. He was a viable backup as he had played a fair amount in 2014. I know he was injured in either 15 or 16 (maybe both). Petruf didn't look like a viable inline guy for the two TE sets inline or to be the blocking TE with Sutter out as a move TE.
Quote from: sliman on March 19, 2018, 03:17:08 PMTruman State will be far from a walk over based on their history. For 100 years they played in the Missouri Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, which almost annually had a team in contention for the DII championship, most notably Northwest Missouri State. In 2013-14 they switched to the GLVC, mostly due to geographic/travel considerations they say, but also because they were consistently near the bottom of the MIAA in football. They've never had less than a .500 record in the GLVC and were co-champs as recently as 2016. Playing on the road against a team closer to our level than Youngstown, this will be another good test along with Duquesne to see how much we're progressing.
I agree with the competition comments but are all three OOC games on the road this upcoming season?
No idea if they are on road, off top of head don't remember ever going strictly away for non conference, doesn't seem smart financially,
That being said I think we will handle Truman, they are a better version of Saint Joe and William Jewel, however Carlson went toe to toe with that conference and Cecchini is undefeated.
We also went toe to toe with Montana and Duquesne , Drake beat us due to maturity on the front line and Campbell due to a dual threat qb on offense and speed on outside, Jacksonville we should have won
I don't think this team is the same caliber as the aforementioned
2018
09/01 Bye
09/08 @Duquesne
09/15 @Youngstown
09/22 Truman State
09/29 Davidson
10/06 @Dayton
10/13 Butler
10/20 @Morehead St
10/27 Drake
11/03 @Marist
11/10 Jacksonville
11/17 @Stetson
No San Diego
About 95% sure that is right
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 19, 2018, 08:08:39 PMNo idea if they are on road, off top of head don't remember ever going strictly away for non conference, doesn't seem smart financially, That being said I think we will handle Truman, they are a better version of Saint Joe and William Jewel, however Carlson went toe to toe with that conference and Cecchini is undefeated. We also went toe to toe with Montana and Duquesne , Drake beat us due to maturity on the front line and Campbell due to a dual threat qb on offense and speed on outside, Jacksonville we should have won I don't think this team is the same caliber as the aforementioned
Dave is actually 1-1 vs St. Joe's and William Jewell. Lost in year one of his staff taking over to St. Joe's
Spaced St Joe's in 2014
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 19, 2018, 08:08:39 PM
No idea if they are on road, off top of head don't remember ever going strictly away for non conference, doesn't seem smart financially,
Looking at Truman's schedule they list Valpo as TBA. They play 4 non conference games and 2 of the other 3 are home games so this one better be a home game for us.
Since it will be difficult to win @Duquesne and a loss @YSU is aforegone conclusion, the opener against Truman State (which will not be an easy game by any stretch) all of a sudden looms as a key game for the entire season. Lose that game, and an 0-3 start is a real possibility.
Paul
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 20, 2018, 07:58:13 AMQuote from: valpofb16 on March 19, 2018, 08:08:39 PMNo idea if they are on road, off top of head don't remember ever going strictly away for non conference, doesn't seem smart financially,
Looking at Truman's schedule they list Valpo as TBA. They play 4 non conference games and 2 of the other 3 are home games so this one better be a home game for us.
The Truman State game, according to the TSU Football site, is scheduled for 9-22 at Valpo. So it's a Home Game, it's on 9-22 and not the opener and Valpo has a bye week 1(apparently).
I wonder if Davidson and Valpo are pulling for an opener against each other, both schedules have not dropped and they are last in PFL to do so. I know Indiana and Ohio State did this but I am wondering whether the PFL would allow this. I personally do not remember this ever happening but would be a huge help on our end
Davidson schedule posted on fan board
Sept 1 Brevard - 7pm
Sept 8 Chowan - 7pm
Sept 15 Guilford - 7pm
Sept 22 at Dayton
Sept 29 at Valpo
Oct 6 Jacksonville - 1pm
Oct 13 Morehead State
Oct 20 at Marist
Oct 27 Stetson
Nov 3 Bye week
Nov 10 at San Diego
Nov 17 Butler
looks like our bye week is week 1
Brandon's spring write up. Some interesting off season surgery's.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2017-18/18102/valpo-football-set-to-begin-spring-season/
As an aside. What is the deal with not releasing the schedule to this point? Seems to me it has been published weeks earlier than this in the recent past.
Lane and Campbell back are huge , Campbell completely negates scargle loss, let's hope he comes back with another year of eligibility
Also Studyvin applying and receiving a medical means we have a big body on the dline for another two years
and Drake posted their schedule:
9/1 William Jewell
9/8 @ Montana
9/15 Missouri S&T
9/22 bye
9/29 @jacksonville
10/6 Butler
10/13 Stetson
10/20 @ Dayton
10/27 @ Valpo
11/3 San Diego
11/10 Marist
11/17 @ Morehead State
so... I'm hoping fb16 isn't right about starting the year with a Bye...but... 5 home games, 3 against the Bulldogs.... I'd make a pooper scooper comment here, but I won't.
2018
09/01 Bye
09/08 @Duquesne
09/15 @Youngstown
09/22 Truman State BULLDOGS
09/29 Davidson
10/06 @Dayton
10/13 Butler BULLDOGS
10/20 @Morehead St
10/27 Drake BULLDOGS
11/03 @Marist
11/10 Jacksonville
11/17 @Stetson
Truman State does have the Valpo game on 9/22... only the time is TBA...
Unless a number of other schedules are incorrect, the bye has to be week 1.
Is there a spring roster floating around somewhere?
Given the size of the roster will there be an actual game at the end?
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 28, 2018, 10:36:13 AMIs there a spring roster floating around somewhere? Given the size of the roster will there be an actual game at the end?
In the recent past, the spring roster was only distributed at the spring game/scrimmage. Except for one spring, there have been enough players on the roster to play an actual game but, IIRC, this staff has stuck to offense/defense scrimmages.
On the schedule for 11am April 21
The big takeaway even before the finale is that Jimmy was announced as not participating due to surgery. The QB job, then, this spring hopefully will be a good battle.
Quote from: talksalot on March 28, 2018, 10:47:37 AMOn the schedule for 11am April 21
Is it a true game in terms of a Brown vs Gold game or is it the Offense/Defense scrimmage which has been played the last few years (I think from year 2 of the current staff)?
To clarify...here is the writeup from last year's game which was run in a similar fashion to the spring contests under Dave other than his first year. Last year's contest was also on the spring schedule as a game:
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2016-17/17341/countdown-to-2017-begins-after-successful-spring-game/
One footnote to that article which was pretty striking. Don't get your name in the writeup because you may not be around very long.
Cool tidbit rsjr Jake Simpson returning for 5th year, was 2016 kicker, team went 1/1 for returning possible fifth years this year
I scraped this link from the PFL board. Decent synopses of what PFL teams are concentrating on in spring ball.
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20180301102333018361804&ref=rec&tm=&src=FCS
The Football Team has a new crowdfunding project up on the Valpo website!
https://crowdfunding.valpo.edu/s/1347/17/cf-home.aspx
I checked it out and although the FB team is pictured, it appears it is a universal training room need. Support it! I spoke to Rod before he retired and the thing that disappointed him most was that his department always seemed to be at the end of the food chain for funds.
At one point VU instituted a sports trainer (for lack of a better term) curriculum that would have brought in a sizable enrollment, but it was never properly funded and eventually was abandoned (I gathered from Rod that there was some political infighting). As a result the current training /therapy capability is beyond maxed out. They are handling DOUBLE the number of athletes that they handled when the ARC was built. Any expansion of the ARC phyisical facility needs to include a strategic component that elevates athetic training/ exercise physiology/kinesiology to a degree program. It would boost enrrolment generally but would also offer athletes something other than sports management as something to shoot for. And BTW, that degree is not basketweaving — heavy bio, anatomy and science. It's like "nursing school" for athletes and makes the same heavy demands.
RSFR QB Ryan Markoff moving to WR, looks to be in the mix
Quote from: valpofb16 on April 07, 2018, 08:57:53 AM
RSFR QB Ryan Markoff moving to WR, looks to be in the mix
Presumably as an ex-quarterback he has good hands and at 6'2" 190#, he should presumably be an excellent target.
I guess there are at least 3 QBs ahead of Markoff (and maybe 4) plus a recruit so if he can show at another position, he's a bigger asset there. He's fast and has the size to play outside but let's see if he can run a route. Dalton made the same move last year and ended up not on the roster at all.
There is a lot more to playing the position than running quickly and catching a pass. More often than not, it is those other things which get you on or take you off the field.
Do any of you have connections at Augustana (SD)? They are supposedly looking at a move to D-I...Summit League or WAC. Wondering if they would move football to the PFL.
Quote from: Lurking Dog on April 08, 2018, 03:04:13 PM
Do any of you have connections at Augustana (SD)? They are supposedly looking at a move to D-I...Summit League or WAC. Wondering if they would move football to the PFL.
Hey L-Dog! Good to to see you here on our board. I personally have no clue about that Augustana (there are so many). But the SD version going from D-II to D-I would make sense in that they could save Scholly bucks by going D-I FB in the PFL without having to go Big Sky or MVFC. The PFL footprint is the entire freakin country so the appeal of national travel annually could be an offset to the scholarship thing. But the big question in my mind is which sport is the bell cow? MBB or FB?
Augie won the 2016 D-II basketball championship, so I think that's their big sport. Football has about 30 scholarships and a smallish, but modern, stadium. Not sure they would be able to support 63 fb scholarships. Hoping they might become the Valpo of the West with PFL ball. ;-)
If they came to the PFL is would add another Lutheran school! Currently there are only two in D1.
Augustana SD is also one of the schools that gets a regular visit whenever the king and queen of Norway come to America. Augustana has some very old connections to the Lutheran Church in Norway which is officially headed by the king and queen of Norway. With the university mascot being the Viking and their connections to Norway this school is by far the closest thing to Norway in America except for maybe Luther College (the Norse) in Decorah, Iowa.
https://decorahnewspapers.com/Content/Social/Social/Article/Norway-king--queen-get-royal-reception-in-Decorah/-2/-2/26542
Harald (King of Norway) acknowledged the spirit of the Nobel Peace Prize is reflected at Luther and its four sister colleges in the Midwest, all founded by Norwegian immigrants, during the Nobel Peace Prize forum. In addition to Luther the annual event is sponsored by Augsburg, Augustana, Concordia and St. Olaf colleges.
Quote from: Lurking Dog on April 08, 2018, 05:42:06 PM
Augie won the 2016 D-II basketball championship, so I think that's their big sport. Football has about 30 scholarships and a smallish, but modern, stadium. Not sure they would be able to support 63 fb scholarships. Hoping they might become the Valpo of the West with PFL ball. ;-)
Their fb stadium is fairly modern (opened in 2009) and realistically rated at 6,500 capacity. It is set in a bowl and of the 6,500 seats with something like 2,200 being chairbacks. Two level pressbox. Grass seating on the endzone banks. Not bad for a 1,800-1,900 enrollment. It would immediately rank ahead of the following PFL stadiums, IMO: Valpo, Davidson, Jacksonville, Stetson, Marist, Butler. Morehead has more seats but is very old in comparison.
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 08, 2018, 08:47:42 PMQuote from: Lurking Dog on April 08, 2018, 05:42:06 PMAugie won the 2016 D-II basketball championship, so I think that's their big sport. Football has about 30 scholarships and a smallish, but modern, stadium. Not sure they would be able to support 63 fb scholarships. Hoping they might become the Valpo of the West with PFL ball. ;-)
Their fb stadium is fairly modern (opened in 2009) and realistically rated at 6,500 capacity. It is set in a bowl and of the 6,500 seats with something like 2,200 being chairbacks. Two level pressbox. Grass seating on the endzone banks. Not bad for a 1,800-1,900 enrollment. It would immediately rank ahead of the following PFL stadiums, IMO: Valpo, Davidson, Jacksonville, Stetson, Marist, Butler. Morehead has more seats but is very old in comparison.
Athletic site lists 1800 seats. Looks nice but, seating wise, pretty small.
You might be looking at the wrong Augustana. There's also an Aiugustana College, but that's in Rock Island, IL. They are D-III,
"The anchor of Augustana's on-campus athletic facilities, Kirkeby-Over Stadium serves as the home of Vikings football and gives the program one of the premiere football venues in all of NCAA Division II.
TKDA, a specialty architecture and engineering based in the Twin Cities, designed Kirkeby-Over Stadium, while the Winkels Group in Sioux Falls managed the project. The facility features a FieldTurf surface in a bowl venue with seating for approximately 6,500, including 2,200 chairback seats. Fans can also choose to watch the action from grass berms in the end zones."
http://goaugie.com/facilities/?id=13
They have a entirely dedicated FB complex: The Hall Football Complex
http://goaugie.com/facilities/?id=35
They have a 62,000 sq. ft. indoor turf practice facility.
http://goaugie.com/facilities/?id=43
They play M/WBB at the 4,000 seat Souix Fall Arena.
http://goaugie.com/facilities/?id=5
I have a cousin who graduated from Augie. He seemed to enjoy the school
Quote from: JD24 on April 08, 2018, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 08, 2018, 08:47:42 PMQuote from: Lurking Dog on April 08, 2018, 05:42:06 PMAugie won the 2016 D-II basketball championship, so I think that's their big sport. Football has about 30 scholarships and a smallish, but modern, stadium. Not sure they would be able to support 63 fb scholarships. Hoping they might become the Valpo of the West with PFL ball. ;-)
Their fb stadium is fairly modern (opened in 2009) and realistically rated at 6,500 capacity. It is set in a bowl and of the 6,500 seats with something like 2,200 being chairbacks. Two level pressbox. Grass seating on the endzone banks. Not bad for a 1,800-1,900 enrollment. It would immediately rank ahead of the following PFL stadiums, IMO: Valpo, Davidson, Jacksonville, Stetson, Marist, Butler. Morehead has more seats but is very old in comparison.
Athletic site lists 1800 seats. Looks nice but, seating wise, pretty small.
You might have got it confused with Augustana in Rock Island, IL (Quad Cities). Both schools use the Viking mascot.
http://athletics.augustana.edu/sports/2013/7/24/FB_0724130427.aspx?id=476
Some other facts - obtained from "Ole the Viking":
Affiliation: ELCA
Established:1860
Endowment: $67 million (2016)
Largest private college in SD
Enrollmeny (2017): 1917
Tuition: $31,960
Being the reigning D-II NCAA MBB champs should give them some cred in the Summit after having lost IUPUI. They'd have to go through the qualifying process, of course, but their schedule of visiting opponents would leap upward -- 4 guaranteed home games against the 4 top Dakota schools alone. Having been through Souix Falls on my way out to the Valpo/Montana FB game, I can see where that would make Augustana Big Time in the eyes of the local population. They'd fill the Souix Falls Arena regularly.
Football-wise, they play very competitive D-II scholarship football (about 30 scholarships, I think) in the Northern Sun conference that includes:
Team W L T For Opp Pct W L T For Opp Pct
---- - - - --- --- --- - - - --- --- ---
Minnesota State..... 11 0 0 462 150 1.000 13 1 0 562 215 .929
Winona State........ 10 1 0 394 155 .909 10 2 0 400 175 .833
Minnesota Duluth.... 9 2 0 365 184 .818 9 3 0 393 222 .750
Sioux Falls......... 9 2 0 293 126 .818 9 3 0 313 150 .750
Bemidji State....... 8 3 0 388 190 .727 8 3 0 388 190 .727
St. Cloud State..... 6 5 0 310 231 .545 6 5 0 310 231 .545
Wayne State......... 6 5 0 272 254 .545 6 5 0 272 254 .545
Upper Iowa.......... 6 5 0 271 273 .545 6 5 0 271 273 .545
Northern State...... 6 5 0 265 301 .545 6 5 0 265 301 .545
MSU Moorhead........ 5 6 0 285 289 .455 5 6 0 285 289 .455
Augustana........... 4 7 0 226 284 .364 4 7 0 226 284 .364
Minot State......... 3 8 0 188 320 .273 3 8 0 188 320 .273
Concordia-St. Paul.. 2 9 0 213 342 .182 2 9 0 213 342 .182
Southwest Minnesota. 2 9 0 205 377 .182 2 9 0 205 377 .182
University of Mary.. 1 10 0 180 469 .091 1 10 0 180 469 .091
Minnesota Crookston. 0 11 0 141 513 .000 0 11 0 141 513 .000
As I mentioned, if they decide to join the Summit, they could actually go non-scholarship in the PFL and actually play at or a shade above where they are now -- plus travel outside of their Minnesota/Dakota/Iowa footprint.
I know one thing: I'd trade pretty much all of their facilities for Valpo's in a heartbeat (although the 4K seat Souix Fall Arena is about 1500 seats too small.).
http://goaugie.com/facilities/
This man is rumored to be the donor who will get the ball rolling on D-I.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Denny_Sanford
He has already established the "Sanford Institute of Philanthropy" at Augustana.
Quote from: Lurking Dog on April 09, 2018, 12:34:34 PM
This man is rumored to be the donor who will get the ball rolling on D-I.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Denny_Sanford
He has already established the "Sanford Institute of Philanthropy" at Augustana.
And his name is on the Sanford Field House -- their 62,000 sq.ft. indoor turf facility.
Quote from: bbtds on April 09, 2018, 09:44:34 AMQuote from: JD24 on April 08, 2018, 09:05:58 PMQuote from: VULB#62 on April 08, 2018, 08:47:42 PMQuote from: Lurking Dog on April 08, 2018, 05:42:06 PMAugie won the 2016 D-II basketball championship, so I think that's their big sport. Football has about 30 scholarships and a smallish, but modern, stadium. Not sure they would be able to support 63 fb scholarships. Hoping they might become the Valpo of the West with PFL ball. ;-)
Their fb stadium is fairly modern (opened in 2009) and realistically rated at 6,500 capacity. It is set in a bowl and of the 6,500 seats with something like 2,200 being chairbacks. Two level pressbox. Grass seating on the endzone banks. Not bad for a 1,800-1,900 enrollment. It would immediately rank ahead of the following PFL stadiums, IMO: Valpo, Davidson, Jacksonville, Stetson, Marist, Butler. Morehead has more seats but is very old in comparison.
Athletic site lists 1800 seats. Looks nice but, seating wise, pretty small.
You might have got it confused with Augustana in Rock Island, IL (Quad Cities). Both schools use the Viking mascot. http://athletics.augustana.edu/sports/2013/7/24/FB_0724130427.aspx?id=476
Yeah. I had the wrong place. The Sioux Falls version looks much nicer. Reminds one of Campbell's facility.
Welcome to Coach Smith. Looks like he can help the program. Not sure of the Snyder move.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2017-18/18213/cecchini-announces-addition-of-jerome-smith-to-coaching-staff/
QuoteHead coach Dave Cecchini has announced the addition of Jerome Smith to the Valparaiso University football staff as the team's running backs coach.
The past TE coach is gone. This might be a good move for coach Snyder. He is P/T I believe and I do not think he ever was a RB. But he is a "coach" and he does a vey good job keeping the STs well organized. He is intense and will do well regardless of where he works. The new guy might add another dimension to the RBs.
Massey has us going 7-4
Favorites (+60%):
09-29-2018 vs. Davidson
10-20-2018 at Morehead St.
11-03-2018 at Marist
11-10-2018 vs. Jacksonville
11-17-2018 at Stetson
Toss ups (40-60%)
09-22-2018 vs. Truman St.
10-13-2018 vs. Butler
Underdogs (-40%)
2018-09-08 at Duquesne
2018-09-15 at Youngstown St.
10-06-2018 at Dayton
10-27-2018 vs. Drake
Agree with the underdogs. Duquesne will be a close game but also our first game with a game under their belt. Youngstown St. is probably going to be rough I'd be happy with a similar result as Montana. We have not beat Drake in a long time, they were our second worst loss last year. Dayton is interesting with it being away. Think we are trending in the better direction but being on the road is a factor.
Butler being a toss up will depend how we start season. If we start hot I could see a blowout potentially. Truman St. is interesting to me. They started out last year hot before falling apart. Theoretically this should be a win at home.
I think Davidson and Stetson we have separated from. ( I know Stetson games were close but we played bad on offense in both and still won). Morehead St. and Marist were both down last year and after beating them handily we go to their place. Jacksonville should have been a win. Plain and Simple.
Final prediction 8-3: I think we beat all the expected teams and finally get Drake at home.
Also FWIW
Donny Navarro transferred to Illinois (D1) as a PWO
Dilan Scargle transferred to South Florida(D1) as a WO
Logan Pfizenmayer transferred to Dension (D3)
Josh Baker transferred to College of Dupage (JUCO)
Kevin Wright transferred to Snow College (JUCO)
The first two games of the season are -- @Duquesne and @Youngstown State. It is likely we lose both those games (Duquesne might be winnable but they beat us last year, at home). I think the key to the season is how respond to what promises to be an 0-2 start.
Paul
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 11, 2018, 02:26:38 PMMassey has us going 7-4 Favorites (+60%): 09-29-2018 vs. Davidson 10-20-2018 at Morehead St. 11-03-2018 at Marist 11-10-2018 vs. Jacksonville 11-17-2018 at Stetson Toss ups (40-60%) 09-22-2018 vs. Truman St. 10-13-2018 vs. Butler Underdogs (-40%) 2018-09-08 at Duquesne 2018-09-15 at Youngstown St. 10-06-2018 at Dayton 10-27-2018 vs. Drake Agree with the underdogs. Duquesne will be a close game but also our first game with a game under their belt. Youngstown St. is probably going to be rough I'd be happy with a similar result as Montana. We have not beat Drake in a long time, they were our second worst loss last year. Dayton is interesting with it being away. Think we are trending in the better direction but being on the road is a factor. Butler being a toss up will depend how we start season. If we start hot I could see a blowout potentially. Truman St. is interesting to me. They started out last year hot before falling apart. Theoretically this should be a win at home. I think Davidson and Stetson we have separated from. ( I know Stetson games were close but we played bad on offense in both and still won). Morehead St. and Marist were both down last year and after beating them handily we go to their place. Jacksonville should have been a win. Plain and Simple. Final prediction 8-3: I think we beat all the expected teams and finally get Drake at home.
I think both Dayton and Jacksonville should fall in the toss up section. Butler has most of their roster back IIRC. They'll be tough. The only game Valpo should likely be "out" of is YSU.
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 11, 2018, 02:37:07 PM
Also FWIW
Donny Navarro transferred to Illinois (D1) as a PWO
Dilan Scargle transferred to South Florida(D1) as a WO
Logan Pfizenmayer transferred to Dension (D3)
Josh Baker transferred to College of Dupage (JUCO)
Kevin Wright transferred to Snow College (JUCO)
Navarro and Scargle both had good freshman seasons would have had excellent 4 year careers. Everybody is replaceable but they will be missed. Navarro was probably overlooked the first time around in recruiting. If you are going to walk-on Illinois is probably a good place as the program stinks. I honestly shake my head at Scargle as I question his PT over the next few years (but what do I know). Pfizenmeyer had a role but this is probably a good move. Baker wasn't going to play much. I thought on paper Wright might have been a player when we signed him.
Quote from: IndyValpo on July 12, 2018, 11:20:18 AMQuote from: valpofb16 on July 11, 2018, 02:37:07 PMAlso FWIW Donny Navarro transferred to Illinois (D1) as a PWO Dilan Scargle transferred to South Florida(D1) as a WO Logan Pfizenmayer transferred to Dension (D3) Josh Baker transferred to College of Dupage (JUCO) Kevin Wright transferred to Snow College (JUCO)
Navarro and Scargle both had good freshman seasons would have had excellent 4 year careers. Everybody is replaceable but they will be missed. Navarro was probably overlooked the first time around in recruiting. If you are going to walk-on Illinois is probably a good place as the program stinks. I honestly shake my head at Scargle as I question his PT over the next few years (but what do I know). Pfizenmeyer had a role but this is probably a good move. Baker wasn't going to play much. I thought on paper Wright might have been a player when we signed him.
Scargle basically went home. He'll likely be a practice player at best. Walk on is a concept at this point. Dropped the cost of his education by about 75%.
I can see Navarro eventually earning some snaps. The others I don't know much about.
Mentioned at some point some time back that the history of Valpo players who go the transfer route isn't great.
Coaches pick us tied fourth!
http://valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18318/valpo-picked-to-finish-tied-for-fourth-in-pfl/
So we beat both Butler and Dayton last year and return 18 starters? Still, a lot better than 10th of 11 last year. The respect is starting to come.
According to sportsratings who ranks all divisions
San Diego: 172
Drake: 296
Dayton: 320
Butler: 335
Valparaiso: 346
Jacksonville: 406
Marist: 430
Stetson: 480
Morehead St: 496
Davidson: 508
FWIW
Youngstown: 81
Montana: 129
Duquesne:209
Campbell: 340
Truman St: 342
Trinity INTL: 609
How will Valpo match up with the Bison in the playoffs?
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 31, 2018, 12:50:32 PM
According to sportsratings who ranks all divisions
San Diego: 172
Drake: 296
Dayton: 320
Butler: 335
Valparaiso: 346
Jacksonville: 406
Marist: 430
Stetson: 480
Morehead St: 496
Davidson: 508
FWIW
Youngstown: 81
Montana: 129
Duquesne:209
Campbell: 340
Truman St: 342
Trinity INTL: 609
Three years ago we would have been maybe 507.
Agreed, the more I see Truman in rankings the more I am realizing that it is far from a guaranteed win.
Duquesne might be a tad overrated i've seen their conference valued differently throughout.
Youngstown will be much better than Montana last year
our OOC games are much more difficult this year
I am getting fired up to see Valpo play in the FargoDome.
San Diego makes College Sports Madness list of top FCS Programs at #28.
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16462
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 01, 2018, 11:08:04 AM
I am getting fired up to see Valpo play in the FargoDome.
No, you're not ;)
Valpo nonconference opponent Youngstown State checks in at #27. What's amazing about that is that despite their lofty overall ranking, the Penguins project as only the sixth best team in the MVFC. Given that the occupants of the FargoDome own and run that conference and FCS Football in general I don't know if anyone is terribly excited to face them on their home turf.
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/16465
685 pounds!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1017835538403995648
Media Day!
http://valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18345/video-valpo-football-media-day-2018/
Thought it interesting that Coach mentioned only the two QBs and one is being moved along cautiously and typically it seems Coach likes to play 2 QBs during the non-conference schedule.
Navarro transferred to U of I
https://twitter.com/BarstoolILL/status/1032385838145986567
That's been mentioned more than once over a period of multiple months.
Hope the kid sticks at UofI as a walk-on. Tough row to hoe though. As a xfer he won't see the game field except from the stands or in sweats on the sideline.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 24, 2018, 05:33:59 PMHope the kid sticks at UofI as a walk-on. Tough row to hoe though. As a xfer he won't see the game field except from the stands or in sweats on the sideline.
Interesting that there are 3 players from Naperville on the roster. One is a WR who attended the same school as Navarro although I don't think they would have attended at the same time since the other WR redshirted at least one season. The other attended a different school but is the QB who threw the pass in the video he posted.
Opponents
Week 0:
Duquesne 15, UMass 63
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 26, 2018, 08:24:46 AM
Opponents
Week 0:
Duquesne 15, UMass 63
The Massachusetts offense racked up 572 yards of offense and scored nine touchdowns to win easily, 63-15.
Should be a win against Duquesne as long as they don't overdose on Pierogies and Primanti's....UMass is no NDSU.
Remember that UMass is FBS with 85 scholarships. They are not good FBS, but they are FBS. I wouldn't read anything into this score (unless Duquesne lost some players to injury).
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 26, 2018, 09:08:51 AM
Remember that UMass is FBS with 85 scholarships. They are not good FBS, but they are FBS. I wouldn't read anything into this score (unless Duquesne lost some players to injury).
U Mass finished last year ranked #119 in the Sagarins, while Duquesne finished #177 and Valpo #236. It should be a competitive game but I wouldn't expect anything close to an easy win.
Saturday's game marked Duquesne's second matchup with an FBS opponent after facing Buffalo in 2014 and is the first of two contests against FBS foes this season as the Dukes will also travel to Hawaii on Sept. 22.
DU starts a fromer FBS QB (transfer fro FAU) ....
...... and a preseason FCS A-A RB.
Enters junior campaign in 2018 ranked eighth in school history with 2,329 rushing yards
- Has 23 career rushing touchdowns through two seasons
- Has recorded 13 100-yard rushing performances in two seasons
Teams like NDSU, SDSU and Northern Iowa would destroy UMass. guys, we need to think bigger and no be cautious to raise expectations.
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 26, 2018, 12:37:51 PMTeams like NDSU, SDSU and Northern Iowa would destroy UMass. guys, we need to think bigger and no be cautious to raise expectations.
That's right. They would destroy UMass and are rated accordingly. That has little to do with the fact that, at the same time, the Dukes are more highly rated than any PFL team save San Diego and rightfully so. UMass' rating difference from Duquense is larger than Duqense's is over Valpo. SDSU's rating is much larger over UMass than UMass' over Duquense. So while stating that SDSU would crush UMass is probably accurate, concluding that because UMass beat up on the Dukes means Valpo even wins vs. Dukes makes little sense.
Keep in mind Coach Cecchini's own words in cautioning that the team will not have the luxury of sneaking up on people this season.
Quote from: JD24 on August 26, 2018, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 26, 2018, 12:37:51 PMTeams like NDSU, SDSU and Northern Iowa would destroy UMass. guys, we need to think bigger and no be cautious to raise expectations.
That's right. They would destroy UMass and are rated accordingly. That has little to do with the fact that, at the same time, the Dukes are more highly rated than any PFL team save San Diego and rightfully so. UMass' rating difference from Duquense is larger than Duqense's is over Valpo. SDSU's rating is much larger over UMass than UMass' over Duquense. So while stating that SDSU would crush UMass is probably accurate, concluding that because UMass beat up on the Dukes means Valpo even wins vs. Dukes makes little sense.
Keep in mind Coach Cecchini's own words in cautioning that the team will not have the luxury of sneaking up on people this season.
They? NDSU, I would agree. Forget about the others. UMass was an FCS national champion and was a runner up a couple of times as well. And this UMass program now is head and shoulders above that previous level. Don't be deceived. There is s difference between FBS and FCS.
Having said that, forget the darn UMass score. Duquesne is gonna be one tough game and we are underdogs. Then we go into the YSU grinder. And Jimmy might not even play vs. Duquesne or YSU (I know I wouldn't play him if he wasn't 100%). As JD 24 said about Cecchini's statement: we ain't sneaking up on no one.
Upside, we'll have two game tapes to their last year's tape.
FWIW Youngstown St leading pass rusher Justus Reed has torn his ACL and will miss the season
For YSU, it's just next man up (at least with respect to us).
Since we play @Duquesne and @ YSU the first two games, a pretty good case can be made that the Truman State game will be the key game of the season.
Paul
TSU was picked to finish 4th in the Great Lakes Valley Conference (D-II). It's the same conference that Willian Jewel is in. U of Indianapolis was the near unnanimous preseason choice for #1.
So, yes, after demanding games against DU and YSU, we need to have a powerful showing going into the PFL schedule. Then the next week is Homecoming against Davidson with a new coach and a new option (yuk!) offensive scheme.
If Seewald can play, we have a fighting chance against Duquesne.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 26, 2018, 08:33:47 PMThey? NDSU, I would agree. Forget about the others. UMass was an FCS national champion and was a runner up a couple of times as well. And this UMass program now is head and shoulders above that previous level. Don't be deceived. There is s difference between FBS and FCS.
Sagarin ratings have NDSU 36. SDSU 66 (with a 10 team grouping of South Fl, Indiana, Army, Purdue, Kentucky, Temple, Fresno St). They would wipe out UMass. Northern Iowa is 78 (Virginia, Wyoming, Syracuse). They would beat up on UMass as well. UMass is 139 (Stoneybrook, Montana, Old Dominion). North Dakota State, South Dakota State and Northern Iowa are the three highest rated FCS schools in the Sagarin Ratings. James Madison is next.
QuoteHaving said that, forget the darn UMass score. Duquesne is gonna be one tough game and we are underdogs. Then we go into the YSU grinder. And Jimmy might not even play vs. Duquesne or YSU (I know I wouldn't play him if he wasn't 100%). As JD 24 said about Cecchini's statement: we ain't sneaking up on no one. Upside, we'll have two game tapes to their last year's tape.
I agree that Duquense is going to be tough to beat. They'll recall last year's game when Valpo got back into the game late. It will also be Duncan's first game starting assuming Seewald is a no go.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 27, 2018, 12:06:22 PMTSU was picked to finish 4th in the Great Lakes Valley Conference (D-II). It's the same conference that Willian Jewel is in. U of Indianapolis was the near unnanimous preseason choice for #1. So, yes, after demanding games against DU and YSU, we need to have a powerful showing going into the PFL schedule. Then the next week is Homecoming against Davidson with a new coach and a new option (yuk!) offensive scheme.
I don't think Truman will be the pushover our walkover game was last season and Valpo has to hope they come out of the beat 'em up games not too beat up. They should beat TSU but it could be closer than Trinity Intl.
I don't see Davidson winning a PFL game this season other than perhaps Stetson which is Davidson's homecoming game. The option can be a pain to defend but they just haven't had time to install. It took Jacksonville a full season plus off season to begin to get it down last year. Davidson will likely come in to Brown Field 3-1 as they play three lower level teams and the Dayton the week prior to Valpo. Might be a good way to gauge a bit how Valpo stacks up vs the rest of the PFL as I think Dayton will be #2 behind San Diego.
Quote from: JD24 on August 27, 2018, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 27, 2018, 12:06:22 PMTSU was picked to finish 4th in the Great Lakes Valley Conference (D-II). It's the same conference that Willian Jewel is in. U of Indianapolis was the near unnanimous preseason choice for #1. So, yes, after demanding games against DU and YSU, we need to have a powerful showing going into the PFL schedule. Then the next week is Homecoming against Davidson with a new coach and a new option (yuk!) offensive scheme.
I don't think Truman will be the pushover our walkover game was last season and Valpo has to hope they come out of the beat 'em up games not too beat up. They should beat TSU but it could be closer than Trinity Intl.
I don't see Davidson winning a PFL game this season other than perhaps Stetson which is Davidson's homecoming game. The option can be a pain to defend but they just haven't had time to install. It took Jacksonville a full season plus off season to begin to get it down last year.
Absolutely no doubt that TSU will be much tougher than TIU was. No way we can mail in the result. I will be there to make sure the team's head is on straight ;)
Despite my avatar, I have a pessimistic gene or two and Davidson scares me (just like every other PFL team) because they had some talent in the past but were poorly coached. The new guy has a very good history and has been an option advocate for some time. So he might be able to pull off a quick transition and give us some fits. But no matter how successfl his first recruiting class might be, they are still freshman and it will be up to the returnng players to assimilate the new systems and that will be difficult in so short a time.
Truman State lost to Michigan Tech 10-20
Morehead State lost 23-49 to Eastern Kentucky
Our opponents are a combined 0-3 out the gate, Duquesne and Morehead scores don't mean much as they were playing higher competition. Morehead scored two garbage TD's to make score closer. Michigan Tech is coming off a 4-7 season and won at Truman
Season preview!
http://valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18373/season-preview-opener-within-sight-as-valpo-football-prepares-to-kick-off-2018-season/
The main theme of the preview is experience and depth.
"A program that previously relied upon true freshmen to produce right away has no such issue this season, as the two-deep features 11 seniors and 12 redshirt juniors combined between offense and defense. A year ago Valpo had five players in their fourth or fifth year of college football on the two-deep for the opener. In 2016, they had 11 and nine in 2015. This year – 23."
However, Jimmy Seewald is still listed as only questionable for Duquesne :( . Hopefully Chris Duncan has kicked up this skills and decision making enough to do well against the Dukes.
They need Seewald to beat Duquesne and make the Fargo Dome dream come true.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 27, 2018, 09:07:11 PMDespite my avatar, I have a pessimistic gene or two and Davidson scares me (just like every other PFL team) because they had some talent in the past but were poorly coached. The new guy has a very good history and has been an option advocate for some time. So he might be able to pull off a quick transition and give us some fits. But no matter how successfl his first recruiting class might be, they are still freshman and it will be up to the returnng players to assimilate the new systems and that will be difficult in so short a time.
I took a look at Washington and Lee's offense under Abell and it is really a funky triple option. It isn't a flexbone and lines up as a modified pistol although it is a running offense while the pistol is a lot of passing. Based on what I saw, I can't see a first year in that offense working very well particularly early in the season. There's a lot of sandlot to the offense which, until it is really down, means a ton of turnovers.
Thanks, JD, for that analysis. It's comforting to hear that. But, damn, that means extra hard work to prepare for yet another non-standard offense. But I have enough confidence in Dave and the staff that they will get it done.
On a different tack, I have an unsettling concern that the team will believe all the "experience and depth" talk and just assume they will win. We, as a competitive program, are still VERY green and will still be subject to sudden acts of dumbness and lack of consentration. We very easily might still lose games we shouldn't lose because of it. This team has to always play every game with a big chip (like almost two decades of failure) on their shoulders. To do less means unacceptable defeats.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 31, 2018, 09:38:53 PMOn a different tack, I have an unsettling concern that the team will believe all the "experience and depth" talk and just assume they will win. We, as a competitive program, are still VERY green and will still be subject to sudden acts of dumbness and lack of consentration. We very easily might still lose games we shouldn't lose because of it. This team has to always play every game with a big chip (like almost two decades of failure) on their shoulders. To do less means unacceptable defeats.
I don't think you and I differ much in our cautiousness with the upcoming season. While last season Valpo beat up on Marist(in a bizarre game) and MSU in the middle of the season almost out of nowhere, the team was a play away from losing to Stetson at home, lost to Drake handily...a team this board seems to think Valpo has moved to even with which I don't understand, lost to both Jacksonville and Campbell and beat Dayton in a really sloppy game in a year Dayton really struggled in...something I don't think is going to occur again this season.
While the team was certainly better and more competitive last season....something which had begun to be turned around the year prior...there wasn't a lot of dominance last year and they would have had the sneaking up on teams play into their favor.
Valpo has a lot of returnees and upper classmen playing. That's a great situation in terms of being competitive with teams which always are loaded with more experience such as Drake and Dayton. Butler, this season, is also in the same situation as Valpo and if Jacksonville gets the option down a little more efficiently the potential for that team being a juggernaut is pretty high.
So, while I expect wins and perhaps handily vs Stetson, Davidson, MSU and maybe Marist, the rest of the schedule is going to be really tough.
I'm also still quite concerned about the QB situation until either Seewald plays and appears healthy or whoever replaces him shows to be a QB to count on. Also, something kind of glossed over in that article is the status of Jean Rene. If he's not healthy and at or near 100%, the WR group is really an unknown. Without Navarro and Catrine and now possibly Rene to some degree, I'm not sure who the go to guys are. The rest of the group from last season were more occasional big play guys than the guys needed to count on to get the 3rd and 8 first downs required to win games. Maybe one of the freshmen steps up.
Cant say I'm all that giddy about the RB situation either although that is a position in which a freshman can show immediately. Morgan's going to be missed...until he isn't.
With all that said, the OL and defense should be pretty solid.
Quote from: JD24 on September 01, 2018, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 31, 2018, 09:38:53 PM
I'm also still quite concerned about the QB situation until either Seewald plays and appears healthy or whoever replaces him shows to be a QB to count on.
Reminds me a lot of last years talk surrounding Andrew Luck.
Butler knocked off #24 Youngstown State. As much as I don't like Butler, beating a ranked scholarship team is pretty impressive.
Quote from: hailcrusaders on September 01, 2018, 04:49:09 PM
Butler knocked off #24 Youngstown State. As much as I don't like Butler, beating a ranked scholarship team is pretty impressive.
Wow! :o Maybe the PFL is better than we think! :crazy:
Can look at that Butler result from a number of different angles.
YSU not as good as presumed.
Butler a lot better than presumed.
Both.
Just a fluke.
Duquesne 1-1 45-0 Win vs Lockhaven (D2)
YSU 0-1 Lost 21-23 Butler (FCS)
Truman 0-1 Lost 20-10 Michigan Tech (D2)
Davidson 1-0 Won 34-13 Brevard (D3)
Dayton 1-0 Won 49-28 Robert Morris (FCS)
Butler 1-0 Won 23-21 YSU (FCS)
Morehead St 0-1 Lost 23-49 EKU (FCS)
Drake 0-0 (William Jewell game cancelled)
Marist 0-1 Lost 14-39 Georgetown (FCS)
Jacksonville 1-0 Won 63-14 St Augustine (D2)
Stetson 1-0 Won 48-7 Point (NAIA)
For all the talk of Davidson's new offense, they basically played the same game against Brevard that they did last year. They ran it the same and passed it the same. Gave up a bit more but nothing substantial. Chowan is next and might give them more of a battle.
Dayton's win over Robert Morris was impressive. Robert Morris beat them last year and has played them pretty tough even in years in which Dayton has been dominant in the PFL. This playing 3 quarters with a redshirt freshman at QB after Jeske was injured early.
Stetson vs. Point and Jacksonville vs. St. Augustine's probably fall into a category of why didn't they schedule a good FL HS team instead. It would have been more competitive.
Marist getting pummeled doesn't bode well for them. We know what Duquense will bring and Truman? Who knows?
Don't know if this belongs in the non GDT but anyone who plans on streaming Valpo games should be aware that at least 4 Crusader games will be streamed on ESPN+ and not on ESPN3. ESPN+ is a pay service...currently it is $5.00/mo...while ESPN3 is available free of charge through your cable subscription (assuming ESPN is part of your package). The Duquense game is available via NEC streaming. The YSU game will be the first game available on ESPN+. The Butler, Jacksonville, and Drake games are also on ESPN+.
I think there is a current one month free trial if anyone wishes to give it a shot.
Quote from: JD24 on September 02, 2018, 10:01:28 PMI think there is a current one month free trial if anyone wishes to give it a shot.
On a different thread, 20 of us have already indicated that we have signed up for ESPN+.
Quote from: vu72 on September 03, 2018, 08:30:56 AMOn a different thread, 20 of us have already indicated that we have signed up for ESPN+.
So you're saying I'm a little late for the party ;D
I just went back to the roster from four years ago to see how much some of the seniors had gained weight wise by being in the weight room for four years. Some of these changes are amazing.
Name Fr. Weight Sr. Weight
Jarrigan 270 300
Schofield 260 270
Cotton 260 275
Trumpower 235 290
Lundberg 260 270
Taliaferro 260 310
Sullivan 260 290
Rentschler 285 295
Sturdyvin 245 280
Snouffer 205 230
Wheeler 220 235
Turner 230 240
And that's how good programs progress. No quick fixes. The normal progression over 4-5 years that couples natural physical maturity with a good weight program and other conditioning techniques pays off. That progression has not been realized until now. Thanks, Dave, for remaining consistent, staying the course and believing in your system. And thanks to the kids for believing in all that.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 27, 2018, 12:06:22 PMTSU was picked to finish 4th in the Great Lakes Valley Conference (D-II). It's the same conference that Willian Jewel is in. U of Indianapolis was the near unnanimous preseason choice for #1.
Just driving by and getting a 5 to 10 minute glance at some of the UIndy practices on State Ave. near Hanna Street I don't believe they are much better, if at all better, than VU was last year.
https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/college-football-valparaiso-university-duo-bonded-by-tragedy-ready-to/article_9ee23ffc-10aa-5a97-8923-3ef63a38de9d.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-2
Read it. It is well worth it.
Quote from: Pgmado on September 08, 2018, 10:17:02 AM
https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/college-football-valparaiso-university-duo-bonded-by-tragedy-ready-to/article_9ee23ffc-10aa-5a97-8923-3ef63a38de9d.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-2
Great article, thank you for sharing it.
I checked out Dale Carlson's twitter site. He must have a lot of time on his hands.
In case you might be interested, Davidson played a Thursday night football game vs. Guilford last night. Davidson won. The final score was .....................
............. wait for it.................
91-61. :crazy:
Steph Curry came back to campus and scored 38 points in this one :lol:
I don't know which is worse. The fact that Davidson played a team which was capable of giving up 90 points to any program or that Davidson gave up 61 to that same team.
Quote from: JD24 on September 14, 2018, 05:05:05 PM
I don't know which is worse. The fact that Davidson played a team which was capable of giving up 90 points to any program or that Davidson gave up 61 to that same team.
It was flag football. These things happen.
Davidson - Guilford game recap with replays.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=401030368
It was picked up by ESPN on ESPN 3.
Don't blink or you might miss it.
Very good article about how Valpo has changed some equipment and practice techniques to reduce concussions.
https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/college-football-valparaiso-s-changes-coincide-with-drop-in-concussions/article_5fcc5e79-480c-5b24-93ff-dd2375450662.html
Maybe I missed seeing this on the message board but I noticed that the guy who took over for Coyle as the Valpo High School football coach, Bill Marshall, played 4 years for VU.
http://valpovikings.wixsite.com/valpofootball/copy-of-eric-kennedy
Coach Marshall just finished up his 12th season with the Vikings and 13th season overall as a football coach. Prior to coaching for Valparaiso High School, Coach Marshall coached defensive line for one season at Valparaiso University.
He holds a master's degree from Ball State University, and an undergraduate degree from Valparaiso University, where he also played defensive end for the Crusaders for four seasons. Before college he played football, basketball, and baseball at Warwick Valley High School in New York. He currently lives in Valpo with his wife Alaina and three kids; Will, Ben, and Isabelle
Bill Marshall was a solid player during my days on campus
Drew and Bailey make All-PFL.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18669/snouffer-tabbed-first-team-all-conference-gessinger-receives-second-team-nod/