Best of luck to Coach Dildy as he has left Valpo and taken the same job at Northwestern. Who will fill his spot?
He was our Chicago Area guy, right?
Maybe someone who has a similar footprint? No clue who is available.
Quote from: M on May 21, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
Best of luck to Coach Dildy as he has left Valpo and taken the same job at Northwestern. Who will fill his spot?
This is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves. But so be it, we need players that want to be here at Valpo -vs- are here for "other" reasons.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: M on May 21, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
Best of luck to Coach Dildy as he has left Valpo and taken the same job at Northwestern. Who will fill his spot?
This is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves. But so be it, we need players that want to be here at Valpo -vs- are here for "other" reasons.
Suppose the upside is that Northwestern appears to have no more open scholarships for next year.
Maybe it's time to give Lottich's good buddy up in Milwaukee a call? Or see if Tonagel is interested in moving up to D1 with an eye toward a future coaching job somewhere?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 11:31:04 AMThis is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves.
Worrying too much isn't good for your health. ::) Eron Gordon will not play in 18-19 and I wouldn't bet on him being a regular starter in 19-20 either.
Our guys aren't leaving because an assistant coach leaves. Although if they ever become grad transfer eligible then it could come into play. Hopefully they find someone with strong Chicago ties, if that is Tonagel that would seem pretty perfect.
Chris Artis's response to Oren's tweet has me wondering if perhaps this will be a short coaching search. I think Artis would be a strong hire for the position.
Quote from: M on May 21, 2018, 12:29:30 PM
Our guys aren't leaving because an assistant coach leaves. Although if they ever become grad transfer eligible then it could come into play. Hopefully they find someone w
ith
strong Chicago ties, if that is Tonagel that would seem pretty perfect.
Given that our current roster is made up of one guy from Chicago and six from Indiana, I would think a person with strong Indiana ties might make more sense. That could be Greg.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: M on May 21, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
Best of luck to Coach Dildy as he has left Valpo and taken the same job at Northwestern. Who will fill his spot?
This is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves. But so be it, we need players that want to be here at Valpo -vs- are here for "other" reasons.
Why is anyone questioning the Javon Freeman-Liberty commitment. This is all conjecture, without any facts to back it up, started by a poster with a total of 10 posts on this board. His post should not even have been dignified with a response.
I agree with 72. As nice as having an inroad into Chicago's talent bed is (and for that may I suggest Tracy Dildy) I think with our stated goal of being the region's team a guy with strong Indiana ties makes a lot of sense.
FW has a point after further reflection I don't think we have anything to worry about on that front. I remember reading a story back this fall or early winter that JFL was getting excited about possibly playing in a camp where he would doubtless be watched by other schools including P5s and his father quickly quashed that telling him that he committed to Valpo and that he needed to honor that commitment. That was back when his commitment was merely verbal I believe so how much stronger must that feeling be now that he has signed a LOI?
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 21, 2018, 12:10:12 PM
Maybe it's time to give Lottich's good buddy up in Milwaukee a call? Or see if Tonagel is interested in moving up to D1 with an eye toward a future coaching job somewhere?
GT made it fairly clear he doesn't want to be an
asst coach at Valpo.
Artis would be worth an interview. I think Bo Patton would be worth an interview as well.
As assistant with some basketball knowledge this late in the process?
Only one name comes to mind.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/929006874644701184/2ZlQHrL8_400x400.jpg)
Quote from: justducky on May 21, 2018, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 11:31:04 AMThis is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves.
Worrying too much isn't good for your health. ::) Eron Gordon will not play in 18-19 and I wouldn't bet on him being a regular starter in 19-20 either.
Curious, why don't you see Gordon being a regular started in 19/20? I think that's precisely what he expects. No snark, just like to get other viewpoints.
I was the one who made the post. All I heard was a certain P5 was trying to pull a fast one - never heard anything on mutual interest so I asked if anyone here heard anything. No one has so that's telling.
Considering he favorite'd Eron Gordon's tweet, his mom congratulated Eron, & he's scrimmaging with the team - I wouldn't even sweat about it. There's no facts or even conjecture *he's* reconsidering.
Actually the Dildy news explains everything. Someone caught wind he might be NU-bound, deduced there might be a window, and smelled blood in the water. This is common college recruiting.
And nothing came of it. Because JFL clearly isn't interested given his action on the court and on social media. Book closed.
Ideally the guy who replaces Coach Dildy would have strong Chicago recruiting ties, but I don't think it's critical because Coach Lottich is well respected on the Chicago recruiting circuit. But recruiting Chicago is still critical going forward and having multiple coaches who can recruit the area would be nice.
A list of of potential names:
-Jevon Mamon (currently Loyola's DOB): I'm not just naming him because Loyola's recent success. He could be a young rising star in the coaching ranks and he'd definitely reaffirm Valpo's commitment to recruiting Chicago hard. Very strong recruiting ties to the CPL and AAU scene. The con is his lack of experience in college coaching. I think he'd be my 1a or 1b choice to replace coach Dildy.
-Tracy Dildy (former Chicago State HC): Tracy is Coach Dildy's cousin and is extremely well respected in Chicago basketball circles. I think he'd be a homerun hire but I'm not sure he'd be willing to take an assistant coaching position after being a longtime HC and even served as interim AD at Chicago State. CSU may have had some mixed results on the court, but I don't hold that against him. I think he did the best job possible out of a really tough situation at CSU. I was very surprised when CSU let him go. I know he and Coach Gore are friends.
-Bo Patton (Merrillville Coach): I think Coach Patton is another potential future star in the business. He has very strong ties in the region and in the Indiana basketball scene. He doesn't have any experience working on a College Basketball Program, which is a little bit of a concern. Ideally I'd like to see him become a Director of Basketball Operations first and then eventually promote him to an assistant (if someone doesn't poach him from your staff first).
-Chris Artis: Has coaching experience and is one of our own. CA would be another one who would likely have recruiting ties to the region.
-Joel Zimba (DOB): Would Valpo consider promoting from within?
-Greg Tonagel: I'm throwing his name out there but I highly doubt he'd leave his current position to become an assistant. He was offered a job to become Lottich's assistant when ML got the job but he turned it down. He'd be a great assistant but I don't see it happening. Greg wants to be a head coach.
-Kevin Easley
Tracy would be a big get. He's a legend in South Side circles. Had 3* Kezo Brown and top JC scorer Darrell Riley committed to a 1-win Chicago St before his firing. He can recruit. His top player Fred Sims declared early for the draft. Won't play NBA but will professionally.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: justducky on May 21, 2018, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 11:31:04 AMThis is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves.
Worrying too much isn't good for your health. ::) Eron Gordon will not play in 18-19 and I wouldn't bet on him being a regular starter in 19-20 either.
Curious, why don't you see Gordon being a regular started in 19/20? I think that's precisely what he expects. No snark, just like to get other viewpoints.
Who do you think he might start in front of?
In 19-20 Bradford, Evelyn, Kiser and Golder will be seniors with sophomores Sakey and Freeman-Liberty having a lot of playing time under their belts. We should have a surplus of 3's, some interchangeable depth at the 2, and 3 people with experience at the point.
Don't get me wrong because Gordon should find plenty of playing time but I would look for Fazekas, and Evelyn to be the top scorers with Smits, Sorolla, Golder, Freeman-Liberty and Gordon all competing for the 3'rd, 4'th, 5th, 6'th and 7'th leading scorer positions.
If Eron Gordon comes to Valpo thinking he might need to carry the team then he may as well check his saddle in at an Indy storage locker. ;)
Quote from: justducky on May 21, 2018, 04:06:04 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: justducky on May 21, 2018, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 21, 2018, 11:31:04 AMThis is more of a threat to Freeman's commitment to Valpo. Combine this with the signing of 3.7* Eron Gordon and there are some nerves.
Worrying too much isn't good for your health. ::) Eron Gordon will not play in 18-19 and I wouldn't bet on him being a regular starter in 19-20 either.
Curious, why don't you see Gordon being a regular started in 19/20? I think that's precisely what he expects. No snark, just like to get other viewpoints.
Who do you think he might start in front of?
In 19-20 Bradford, Evelyn, Kiser and Golder will be seniors with sophomores Sakey and Freeman-Liberty having a lot of playing time under their belts. We should have a surplus of 3's, some interchangeable depth at the 2, and 3 people with experience at the point.
Don't get me wrong because Gordon should find plenty of playing time but I would look for Fazekas, and Evelyn to be the top scorers with Smits, Sorolla, Golder, Freeman-Liberty and Gordon all competing for the 3'rd, 4'th, 5th, 6'th and 7'th leading scorer positions.
If Eron Gordon comes to Valpo thinking he might need to carry the team then he may as well check his saddle in at an Indy storage locker. ;)
All solid points, most importantly so many upper class men. I'm only looking at the players today and I see a lack of size (think Tevonn and JOSEPH) and rebounding.
We all can agree starting is one thing, but minutes is more telling. I suppose starting wise the seniors will undoubtedly dominate. But right now we are quite stringy and slender at the G position. Watching his high light videos (believe from high school) and I see a man. Javon aspires to weight 170 lbs. I think we will find scrappy doesn't count for much in the MVC.
Admittedly, I am laser focused on a SG that can bump and play for rebounds (shooting is the cost of entry). Right now Bakari is our only bruiser at guard.
Micah, Javon and Sackey need to eat their Wheaties in this conference. We are talking Michael Phelps-esque caloric diets with workouts and lifting.
Golder is too badly needed at SF/F to take G minutes on this roster.
I think you're too worried about 1,2,3,4,5...I'd like to get to a point of positionless basketball. Run out your best 4 or 5 guys who can defend and switch screens.
Quote from: M on May 21, 2018, 09:10:08 PM
I think you're too worried about 1,2,3,4,5...I'd like to get to a point of positionless basketball. Run out your best 4 or 5 guys who can defend and switch screens.
Small ball etc, sure it exists. But the point approach (albeit not necessary at all times) remains the most widely used for quick reference. And for clarification purposes it's a metric crap ton easier to type "stretch 3" instead of "somewhat tall man child who can play with their back to the basket but can shoot from range while guarding quicker moderately tall offensive players".
The fact remains that the point system gives the reader the understanding of size in a short and succinct manner. Just a thought from a fan who still thinks we need a stretch 3 in this signing class!!!
Quote from: justducky on May 21, 2018, 04:06:04 PMIf Eron Gordon comes to Valpo thinking he might need to carry the team then he may as well check his saddle in at an Indy storage locker.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/saddle&ved=2ahUKEwijwOT3vpjbAhWms1kKHQxtCcIQqa4BMA56BAgDEAI&usg=AOvVaw2u7zflb2CvqSUD9CUyeC-n
https://www.selfstorage.com/self-storage/indiana/indianapolis/securcare-self-storage-indianapolis-stover-ave-204068/
Eron did complain that saddles aren't cheap.
I forgot Tracy Dildy is going to be the coach of Lavar Ball's JBA team if that things ever gets off the ground. So it sounds like we can cross off Tracy as a option.
https://twitter.com/michaelsobrien/status/988562708160241669
If I was Mark L I'd do everything I could to get Tongel on the staff. Give him whatever title he wants and pay him. If Matt doesn't pan out Luke is not a head coach. It's just a reality. You have Greg in your back pocket who is a D1 level coach currently.
Quote from: Chairback on May 23, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
If I was Mark L I'd do everything I could to get Tongel on the staff. Give him whatever title he wants and pay him. If Matt doesn't pan out Luke is not a head coach. It's just a reality. You have Greg in your back pocket who is a D1 level coach currently.
Actually he is a NAIA D2 level coach right now. Very successful but lets be honest no one knows how he would do. Perhaps he would be great but maybe not. He is very good at recruiting D1 level players to play NAIA and obviously a good coach.
Quote from: IndyValpo on May 23, 2018, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: Chairback on May 23, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
If I was Mark L I'd do everything I could to get Tongel on the staff. Give him whatever title he wants and pay him. If Matt doesn't pan out Luke is not a head coach. It's just a reality. You have Greg in your back pocket who is a D1 level coach currently.
Actually he is a NAIA D2 level coach right now. Very successful but lets be honest no one knows how he would do. Perhaps he would be great but maybe not. He is very good at recruiting D1 level players to play NAIA and obviously a good coach.
I think Greg would be a tremendous 'x's & o's' and developmental coach but the only big question mark for me would be if he could recruit at a high level. I think he could but you never know. He's landed some nice transfers at IWU and has landed some solid under-recruited kids out of HS. He was very briefly an assistant under Homer at VU and he is very thought of around the coaching ranks. Another thing I've heard is that his IWU program appears slightly "cultish" to people who aren't very religious. Greg is very religious and he isn't afraid to say it. That may be one reason Greg hasn't landed a "bigger" job in the past.
I don't think there is any chance Tonagel is leaving his current job to become an assistant. He's said in interviews in the past that he thinks he's better suited to being a Head Coach. Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard Greg was offered a job to be one of Coach Lottich's assistants when he was trying to put his initial staff together.
I know this is a very big jump to conclusions but it looks like CA was in town tonight. Possibly interviewing for a coaching position?
https://twitter.com/chrisartis5/status/999441269209346048
Quote from: VU2014 on May 23, 2018, 08:34:57 PM
I know this is a very big jump to conclusions but it looks like CA was in town tonight. Possibly interviewing for a coaching position?
https://twitter.com/chrisartis5/status/999441269209346048
For those that may know, what does Chris Artis bring to the equation as a potential assistant?
Quote from: VU2014 on May 23, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on May 23, 2018, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: Chairback on May 23, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
If I was Mark L I'd do everything I could to get Tongel on the staff. Give him whatever title he wants and pay him. If Matt doesn't pan out Luke is not a head coach. It's just a reality. You have Greg in your back pocket who is a D1 level coach currently.
Actually he is a NAIA D2 level coach right now. Very successful but lets be honest no one knows how he would do. Perhaps he would be great but maybe not. He is very good at recruiting D1 level players to play NAIA and obviously a good coach.
I think Greg would be a tremendous 'x's & o's' and developmental coach but the only big question mark for me would be if he could recruit at a high level. I think he could but you never know. He's landed some nice transfers at IWU and has landed some solid under-recruited kids out of HS. He was very briefly an assistant under Homer at VU and he is very thought of around the coaching ranks. Another thing I've heard is that his IWU program appears slightly "cultish" to people who aren't very religious. Greg is very religious and he isn't afraid to say it. That may be one reason Greg hasn't landed a "bigger" job in the past.
I don't think there is any chance Tonagel is leaving his current job to become an assistant. He's said in interviews in the past that he thinks he's better suited to being a Head Coach. Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard Greg was offered a job to be one of Coach Lottich's assistants when he was trying to put his initial staff together.
From iwuhoops.net
IN HIS OWN WORDS
A typical Wildcat player is...
A player who has a fearless commitment to excel in the pursuit of unselfish goals.
When God is the primary pursuit of one's life, he creates in us a "life" that the world cannot. The natural response is to share this with others by serving them before yourself. Don't confuse 'bigness' with greatness. The smaller we become, the greater He becomes!
Fearless is...
In life and athletics, fear will try and paralyze you. You must learn to let go of security or control. In those big moments you must choose between safety and courage. The bottom line is this: 'greatness favors the fearless.'
What makes a team great?
The self focus of our age works against greatness in team sports. It also works against greatness in one's personal life. The aim of our program is to flip that focus by redirecting young men to make God the primary pursuit of one's life while also investing into the destinies of others. When a man makes this critical change and begins to realize the potential within himself, but that it has to be invested into others to have its power fulfilled and purpose found—that's when a man becomes great and a team finds greatness. It truly is one of the greatest paychecks in coaching!
What do you hope a player who plays at IWU gains from his experience...
If there is one memory that our players should have of our program it is this: God was first. God was central. There was passion for putting God first in all things on and off the court. And secondly, meeting the needs of others is a fun way to play ball and live life. I hope the formula for success that they take with them to their workplaces and homes becomes, 'if you want to be 1st, first find a way to be 3rd!'
What is your approach to helping players reach their potential on the floor?
It is special to want to be great. My role as a coach is to motivate greatness inside each player. I want them to embrace the adversity in hard work with joy, because this is the path to success. Walking alongside my players encouraging them through this process is what I call coaching.
True to God, his faith, and himself at all times. Reminds me a lot of Roger Powell. IMO they are cut above most people, myself included.
When Bryce first left for Vandy I asked a few people about Tonagel because there was speculation if he'd be a candidate for the job. Everyone said he was a very stand up guy and had a natural leadership ability going back to his college days.
Here is a pretty good podcast interview I found a while back. He goes in depth about growing up playing basketball in Indiana and playing at Valpo as well as his coaching journey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl48PobIuKU
Chris Artis is in town every night because he lives in the city of Valparaiso.
Last I heard he was a High School teacher somewhere in the area and he is also an assistant coach at Calumet College of Saint Joseph: http://www.ccsjathletics.com/roster/0/1.php
He is a local guy, he played HS basketball in the area and is a Valpo alumnus who has been an assistant coach for 11 years. Not too bad if you ask me 8-)
https://twitter.com/HoopDirt/status/1001448472506195970
https://hoopdirt.com/job/assistant-mens-basketball-coach-valparaiso-university/
Description:
The Valparaiso University Department of Athletics is seeking a full-time Assistant Men's Basketball Coach. The Assistant Men's Basketball Coach will partner and support the head coach to create the most comprehensive development program possible for student-athletes to reach their potential as individuals. Manage a diverse set of responsibilities including but not limited to, recruiting organization, compliance oversight of all NCAA rules, travel planning, academic monitoring of student-athletes, community service initiative liaisons, and on the court training of team members.
We are an NCAA Division I Institution. Responsibilities will include, but are not limited to:
-Assist in day-to-day program operations
-Plan and implement player development workouts
-Prepare scouting reports on opponents
-Coordinate and delegate all recruiting responsibilities
-Fill out compliance paperwork for prospective student-athletes
-Assist with Summer Basketball Camps
-Perform other duties as assigned
Required Skills
-Effective communication skills and a positive attitude are essential
Required Experience
-Undergraduate Degree with experience at the NCAA Division I level of Basketball
-Demonstrate thorough knowledge of NCAA Rules and Regulations
-Minimum of 3 years NCAA coaching experience
"Minimum of 3 years NCAA coaching experience"
Not sure why you highlighted this, but the requirement does not specify head coaching-only experience, nor does it specify D-1-only coaching experience, nor does it specify men's-only coaching experience. All this says to me is HS and AAU coaches and players' parents need not apply.
It doesn't even specify basketball-only coaching experience. ;)
Because it specifically says NCAA, which excludes NAIA.
I'm sure they can bend that. If I'm correct, that would have precluded Lottich from being hired as an asst a few years back.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on May 29, 2018, 12:42:08 PM
I'm sure they can bend that. If I'm correct, that would have precluded Lottich from being hired as an asst a few years back.
Have to target preferred candidates. I'd imagine (like someone said earlier) that Lottich would be slammed with unqualified submissions otherwise. Sort of like "undergraduate degree" listed as requirements.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on May 29, 2018, 12:42:08 PM
I'm sure they can bend that. If I'm correct, that would have precluded Lottich from being hired as an asst a few years back.
As one who designs such job descriptions, I believe "3 years NCAA coaching experience" included as "
Required Experience" doesn't allow much bending. Otherwise, the listing would read "
Preferred Experience."
Quote from: vusupporter on May 29, 2018, 12:38:15 PM
Because it specifically says NCAA, which excludes NAIA.
So, is the point of the highlight that Tonagel wouldn't qualify?
Hey Paul Oren, any news on the next podcast? You hinted at the Canadian duo last we heard!
Thanks for all that you do.
One name I haven't heard speculated yet is Valpo Basketball alum Jason Hawkins. He's been the Head Coach of Don Bosco Prep for 4 or 5 years now and he's been a head coach at Indiana University Northwest for 3 year and an assistant/recruiting coordinator at Elmhurst College for 1 year. He served as grad assistant under Homer for 3 years and Director of Basketball Operations.
Jason is one of our own and he has a wealth of coaching experience. Don Bosco the last few years has proven to develop players from around the area with a lot of success. I know there was a bit of drama with Maravilla (CEO of Don Bosco) but I don't think Coach Hawkins had anything to do with that. He'd be a very interesting hire. I'm not sure an assistant coaching job would pay as well as what he's making a DBP. I'm not sure realistic it is but I'm just throwing his name out there for the heck of it.
Quote from: VU2014 on May 29, 2018, 07:45:15 PM
One name I haven't heard speculated yet is Valpo Basketball alum Jason Hawkins. He's been the Head Coach of Don Bosco Prep for 4 or 5 years now and he's been a head coach at Indiana University Northwest for 3 year and an assistant/recruiting coordinator at Elmhurst College for 1 year. He served as grad assistant under Homer for 3 years and Director of Basketball Operations.
Jason is one of our own and he has a wealth of coaching experience. Don Bosco the last few years has proven to develop players from around the area with a lot of success. I know there was a bit of drama with Maravilla (CEO of Don Bosco) but I don't think Coach Hawkins had anything to do with that. He'd be a very interesting hire. I'm not sure an assistant coaching job would pay as well as what he's making a DBP. I'm not sure realistic it is but I'm just throwing his name out there for the heck of it.
This time Maravilla is probably asking Lottich to take one of Don Bosco's lower level quality student/athletes to get Hawkins hired as an asst. I hope they understand the morals Lottich is standing on but the Don Bosco group probably doesn't get it.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 29, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
Hey Paul Oren, any news on the next podcast? You hinted at the Canadian duo last we heard!
Thanks for all that you do.
Timing never worked out with Tevonn and Max. Last month was very busy for me personally with moving, new sports editor, etc. Hoping to get back at it soon. Apologies for lack of content recently. Trying to figure out which direction to take it.
Hearing anything about this assistant coaching search or anything from the recruiting trail Paul?
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Crap. Ragland was huge for recruiting. Wonder where he ended up. All the same, good luck to him.
Wow that is absolutely brutal for the staff. This is not great timing to make hires...
Make it 3 openings on the Coaching Staff because Coach Zimba who was director of Basketball operations has taken a new position as the Associate Director of Annual Giving.
Going to miss him and the Ragland cheer squad.
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/969425024888209409
I sincerely hope they have candidates ready and will announce soon. We can't afford to be slow on this. It's been a month since coach Dildy left and now we have multiple openings..
Quote from: VU2014 on June 22, 2018, 05:10:55 PM
Wow that is absolutely brutal for the staff. This is not great timing to make hires...
Make it 3 openings on the Coaching Staff because Coach Zimba who was director of Basketball operations has taken a new position as the Associate Director of Annual Giving.
Assistant coaches in the mid-major ranks get on and off the carousel frequently. There just isn't enough money at this level AND Lottich is in his mid 30's. Where's the advantage to waiting out his retirement as a VU assistant?
Not so concerned about this. Dildy was on a pit stop regardless. Rags was connected to other job(s) so cannot be entirely surprised. We are extraordinarily fortunate to have a lifer like Gore, but the carousel will keep turning.
Hope one of the assistants is his lifelong friend that PO did a piece on. Always good to have a buddy in your corner like him. Not to mention he also seems to have ties to Chicago. Though I think his wife had a nice job in Milwaukee at the time of the story, so who knows.
Townsend and Artis would be a home run.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on June 22, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
Townsend and Artis would be a home run.
Townsend would be a nice addition but he was Coach Lottich's first call when he was initially putting the staff together a few years ago and he had to pass because his wife (who is a lawyer I believe) landed a great new job in Milwaukee and he didn't want to uproot the family. I'm not sure things have changed since then. We had a opening after Coach Manuel left and he still remained with UWM even after the coaching change up there.
I'm assuming we'll hear the names pretty soon. It sounds like they knew this was coming and they may have the new coaches already.
Then why no announcement if they've already got them?
They had Dildy for a bit before announcing him...fiscal year wraps up in a week and a half. Maybe waiting on that?
I'm genuinely curious: why does the timing of the hiring in relation to the fiscal year matter?
Quote from: VU2014 on June 22, 2018, 08:37:26 PM
Townsend would be a nice addition but he was Coach Lottich's first call when he was initially putting the staff together a few years ago and he had to pass because his wife (who is a lawyer I believe) landed a great new job in Milwaukee and he didn't want to uproot the family. I'm not sure things have changed since then. We had a opening after Coach Manuel left and he still remained with UWM even after the coaching change up there.
I'm assuming we'll hear the names pretty soon. It sounds like they knew this was coming and they may have the new coaches already.
Don't count Townsend out.
Ron Howard? Didn't he just finish his playing career? I know he has little to none coaching experience and may not even want to get into the business. I think he would be good future coach.
Jared Nunness at Baylor?
I don't know that thenfoscal year matters at all...just tossing a possible reason. Insurance maybe?
I'm not sure if Jason Hawkins is looking to become college assistant but I'd put in a call and ask if he's interested in the job openings. He has college coaching experience and has a proven track record of developing players. The pay probably isn't as good as his current gig though. It's also a plus that he's an alum and could probably recruit the area pretty well.
Quote from: VU2014 on June 23, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
I'm not sure if Jason Hawkins is looking to become college assistant but I'd put in a call and ask if he's interested in the job openings. He has college coaching experience and has a proven track record of developing players. The pay probably isn't as good as his current gig though. It's also a plus that he's an alum and could probably recruit the area pretty well.
I'm not in on that hire. At some point you have to have averaged more than 1.6 mpg your senior year to get my vote.
Certain this leaves me open to criticism, but just going to be frank. I'm sure Brad Stevens didn't even play basketball or some crap like that. But I'm not voting for Jason Hawkings to sure up the coaching carousel.
But Mickey is right, might be nice to consider at least one hire from within for stability purposes. Thankful Coach Gore has been here for us through the highs and lows.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 23, 2018, 03:18:39 PM
I'm not in on that hire. At some point you have to have averaged more than 1.6 mpg your senior year to get my vote.
Certain this leaves me open to criticism, but just going to be frank. I'm sure Brad Stevens didn't even play basketball or some crap like that. But I'm not voting for Jason Hawkings to sure up the coaching carousel.
But Mickey is right, might be nice to consider at least one hire from within for stability purposes. Thankful Coach Gore has been here for us through the highs and lows.
Stevens played D3 at DePauw, and played less and less as his career went on. Playing significantly at a D1 level (or whatever level someone's coaching) is pretty low in terms of qualifying a guy to be a head coach or an assistant. Travis Steele, Xavier's current head coach didn't even play college basketball. He coached AAU and was an assistant at Ben Davis while he was going to Butler.
Current Butler assistant Emerson Kampen barely played, while Brandon Crone was a mainstay on a Sweet 16 team, yet Kampen is an assistant who can recruit whereas Crone is a DOBO, so he can't coach or recruit. Different skill sets are needed as a player, even in a leadership role vs. being any kind of coach.
Quote from: IrishDawg on June 23, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 23, 2018, 03:18:39 PM
I'm not in on that hire. At some point you have to have averaged more than 1.6 mpg your senior year to get my vote.
Certain this leaves me open to criticism, but just going to be frank. I'm sure Brad Stevens didn't even play basketball or some crap like that. But I'm not voting for Jason Hawkings to sure up the coaching carousel.
But Mickey is right, might be nice to consider at least one hire from within for stability purposes. Thankful Coach Gore has been here for us through the highs and lows.
Stevens played D3 at DePauw, and played less and less as his career went on. Playing significantly at a D1 level (or whatever level someone's coaching) is pretty low in terms of qualifying a guy to be a head coach or an assistant. Travis Steele, Xavier's current head coach didn't even play college basketball. He coached AAU and was an assistant at Ben Davis while he was going to Butler.
Current Butler assistant Emerson Kampen barely played, while Brandon Crone was a mainstay on a Sweet 16 team, yet Kampen is an assistant who can recruit whereas Crone is a DOBO, so he can't coach or recruit. Different skill sets are needed as a player, even in a leadership role vs. being any kind of coach.
Suppose I'd change my tone if one of the open positions is filled by a guy with real playing chops and ties in our important markets. If that is achieved we could do worse than Hawkins as the final assistant.
But we have a real void in playing chops on this assistant roster. Maybe we didn't deserve Powell and Lottich as assistants, but that's my mental barometer for the type of assistant (one at least) that we drastically need right now.
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball
https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288
This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.
Yesterday was the VU elite camp...not sure I clicked the right thing but it just showed a picture of 4 kids after camp was over.
Quote from: VU2014 on June 22, 2018, 08:37:26 PM
I'm assuming we'll hear the names pretty soon. It sounds like they knew this was coming and they may have the new coaches already.
Yes, I've been told the new coaches have been selected and are already active to some degree. Assuming the information is correct, the two names I have been given look like very good choices. I believe official announcements should be forthcoming soon.
Looked like in the tweet that coach posted credited Holloway as if he was part of the one hosting the camp with Valpo, implying he's on our staff now.
Just reread that tweet and it does read that way. Could be....
It sounds like the 2 new assistant coaches are Coach Todd Townsend and Coach Holloway! I'm not sure what Coach Townsend would be doing at Valpo's basketball camp, otherwise. I'm just reading the tea leaves.
https://twitter.com/BlakeLund2021/status/1010698512399589376
https://twitter.com/ReichenLund2022/status/1010703033288810496
Quote from: VU2014 on June 24, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
It sounds like the 2 new assistant coaches are Coach Todd Townsend and Coach Holloway! I'm not sure what Coach Townsend would be doing at Valpo's basketball camp, otherwise. I'm just reading the tea leaves.
Since you mention them now, I can say these are the two names I heard last week and was told were "already active," but I said I was waiting for "an official announcement." Also, this is why I posted on Friday "Don't Count Townsend Out." As I mentioned in a previous post: "Assuming the information is correct, the two names I have been given look like very good choices," especially since they have strong ties to three key recruiting areas: Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Louis. I hope we are correct.
Quote from: valpopal on June 24, 2018, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 24, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
It sounds like the 2 new assistant coaches are Coach Todd Townsend and Coach Holloway! I'm not sure what Coach Townsend would be doing at Valpo's basketball camp, otherwise. I'm just reading the tea leaves.
Since you mention them now, I can say these are the two names I heard last week and was told were "already active," but I said I was waiting for "an official announcement." Also, this is why I posted on Friday "Don't Count Townsend Out." As I mentioned in a previous post: "Assuming the information is correct, the two names I have been given look like very good choices," especially since they have strong ties to three key recruiting areas: Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Louis. I hope we are correct.
I wonder if Coach Townsend was in the fold when we were recruiting Brock Stull. Coach Townsend has connections to Chicago obviously and Milwaukee. Coach Holloway I know coached at a small college in Chicago for a few year before heading to EIU. Does he have connections to St. Louis? Edit: Nvm, just saw he worked at University of Missouri-St. Louis for a season.
Coach Dildy was as connected as anyone to the CPL. Losing Coach Ragland is a slight blow to our Indiana & Ohio recruiting grounds. Coach Gore and Coach Lottich obviously have connections in Indiana recruiting. I wonder where we'll stand with recruits like Alex Hemenway now that Coach Ragland has left.
It sounds like Coach Ragland is going to be headed out West to join the new Utah State coaching staff. That's a tremendous hire for them.
Interesting move on his part. I don't see Utah State as a step up.
Quote from: valpotx on June 25, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
Interesting move on his part. I don't see Utah State as a step up.
I don't either but he might have the chance to be a top assistant there and there also might be some upward mobility for promotion that wasn't here with Coach Lottich being a young HC and Coach Gore as the associate HC. Coach Ragland has never been afraid to job hop and get new types of experience. It's served him well in the past. I think he's not too far off from getting a position as a P5 assistant or getting hired as mid-major HC. He was one of the finalists for the Evansville job and I know they wanted him as their associate HC. I wish him and his family well. He certainly had an impact on our program in the short time he was here.
Quote from: valpotx on June 25, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
Interesting move on his part. I don't see Utah State as a step up.
USU is paying their new head coach $3.5m over five years, which seems pretty good for a mid-major. This may have just been a move for more money.
Quote from: EddieCabot on June 25, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: valpotx on June 25, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
Interesting move on his part. I don't see Utah State as a step up.
USU is paying their new head coach $3.5m over five years, which seems pretty good for a mid-major. This may have just been a move for more money.
It's that FBS football money, I guess. That's a big contract for a mid-major program. Head Coach contracts are rising across the board in college basketball.
Quote from: VU2014 on June 25, 2018, 10:57:35 AM
Quote from: valpotx on June 25, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
Interesting move on his part. I don't see Utah State as a step up.
I don't either but he might have the chance to be a top assistant there and there also might be some upward mobility for promotion that wasn't here with Coach Lottich being a young HC and Coach Gore as the associate HC. Coach Ragland has never been afraid to job hop and get new types of experience. It's served him well in the past. I think he's not too far off from getting a position as a P5 assistant or getting hired as mid-major HC. He was one of the finalists for the Evansville job and I know they wanted him as their associate HC. I wish him and his family well. He certainly had an impact on our program in the short time he was here.
Assistants are like nomads they move around for better pay/exposure. The interesting thing here is the new coach brought two assistants with him from South Dakota.
It's being officially reported now.
https://twitter.com/boettger_eli/status/1011393227759411200
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball
https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288
This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.
I hope he's not teaching English.
Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball staff @RHollowayjr for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball
https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288
This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.
I hope he's not teaching English.
Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball staff @RHollowayjr for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002
You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball. Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1012371533925376003
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 28, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball
https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288
This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.
I hope he's not teaching English.
Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball staff @RHollowayjr for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002
You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball. Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?
No! No!
If we accept the deterioration of the English language because we need to attract student athletes then we are defeating the purpose of Valpo as an institution. Educating students must always remain priority number 1. I do think that athletics can be used to further the aims of the University as a scholarly institution. But allowing athletes to lower their expectations because they are skilled in athletics is only for the P5 public universities. Valpo must never fall in that category and coaches must be held to that high standard too. I never meant it as a joke!!!!!!
Quote from: bbtds on June 29, 2018, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 28, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball
https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288
This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.
I hope he's not teaching English.
Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball staff @RHollowayjr for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002
You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball. Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?
No! No!
If we accept the deterioration of the English language because we need to attract student athletes then we are defeating the purpose of Valpo as an institution. Educating students must always remain priority number 1. I do think that athletics can be used to further the aims of the University as a scholarly institution. But allowing athletes to lower their expectations because they are skilled in athletics is only for the P5 public universities. Valpo must never fall in that category and coaches must be held to that high standard too. I never meant it as a joke!!!!!!
You are holding onto the past sir. Language adapts and changes and has since the first grunt. With small gaffes like the ones you ALWAYS point out you do nothing but make us look elitist. If that's your desire, than bravo.
There's a reason the dictionaries introduce new words every year. Many of us try to use proper language and participles, but I think it's clear by now that you just like to sound smart and use (admittedly) clever word play. I enjoy everyone's contributions, but we are a community and my desire is that prospective athletes and fans don't think we are a bunch of elitist fans correcting everyone's grammar.
Language is only a small indicator of the intelligence of a person. High horse dismounted! 😉
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 29, 2018, 06:14:55 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 29, 2018, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 28, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball
https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288
This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.
I hope he's not teaching English.
Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball staff @RHollowayjr for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002
You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball. Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?
No! No!
If we accept the deterioration of the English language because we need to attract student athletes then we are defeating the purpose of Valpo as an institution. Educating students must always remain priority number 1. I do think that athletics can be used to further the aims of the University as a scholarly institution. But allowing athletes to lower their expectations because they are skilled in athletics is only for the P5 public universities. Valpo must never fall in that category and coaches must be held to that high standard too. I never meant it as a joke!!!!!!
You are holding onto the past sir. Language adapts and changes and has since the first grunt. With small gaffes like the ones you ALWAYS point out you do nothing but make us look elitist. If that's your desire, than bravo.
There's a reason the dictionaries introduce new words every year. Many of us try to use proper language and participles, but I think it's clear by now that you just like to sound smart and use (admittedly) clever word play. I enjoy everyone's contributions, but we are a community and my desire is that prospective athletes and fans don't think we are a bunch of elitist fans correcting everyone's grammar.
Language is only a small indicator of the intelligence of a person. High horse dismounted! 😉
The entire argument is moot as the original tweet was from the coach not a player.
It's important to remember that twitter is a very informal way of communicating. This convo is much to do about nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm thinking we'll get the formal announcement about Coach Townsend and Coach Holloway on Monday.
There are other factors that come into play in this particular arena (i.e., social media, and I include this forum in that category) with respect to proper spelling and grammar:
#1 - The need for speed of reply -- In our written dialogue we are not writing for publication (an article or blog) or a grade in school. We are conversing; we are engaging in discourse and, in many cases, using a minature keyboard with fat fingers. Sometimes there is time to proofread before sending, but often the dialogue is moving so rapidly that proofing isn't always feasible.
#2 - Spellcheck isn't all it's cracked up to be -- Spellcheck only looks for misspelling, not misuse -- it is too dumb to differentiate between to, too, or two or their, they're or there, if each is spelled correctly and that's the only criterion.
#3 - The #$@!!&* auto-correct feature is a grammar/spelling killer -- Auto-correct thinks it is smarter than it actually is, sometimes mindlessly substitutes the wrong words as you are typing, and if you are not careful (and proofread) it can make the writer look foolish.
So, while enjoying the back and forth, I am splitting my opinion on this little conversation by allowing for being less dogmatic about electronic discourse while fully supporting the need to maintain high grammar and spelling standards in more formal means of written expression like documents, email, published articles, on-line blogs, letters to the editor, etc. And yes, sometimes typed errors in electronic discourse can be comical, and good natured ribbing is fun.
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 29, 2018, 07:18:23 AMThe entire argument is moot as the original tweet was from the coach not a player.
I would hope that the entire point is moot because the grammar police post was tongue in cheek. The "grammatical" error was probably a typo from a phone anyway.
What the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
This could be because of LeCrone's stupid frivolous lawsuit wasting everyone's time. That and I'm sure our AD has been busy making sure our fall sports schedules are lined up and hasn't had time for the press release. Coaches busy on the recruiting trail figuring out what to do with the last few scholarships etc. That or we're in a world of trouble.
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
What the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
Not sure. Maybe they're just waiting for a "prime" moment for the press release?
Coach Holloway already changed his twitter bio & banner on his twitter profile lol: https://twitter.com/RHollowayjr
Could it be Townsend backed out given his and his wife's strong ties to Milwaukee?
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 03, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Could it be Townsend backed out given his and his wife's strong ties to Milwaukee?
Nope, he's definitely an assistant on the coaching staff. The Athletic Department just hasn't announced it yet.
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.
Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.
I'd imagine at least the one coach is hired, else why have your twitter banner say as much!
Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2018, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 03, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Could it be Townsend backed out given his and his wife's strong ties to Milwaukee?
Nope, he's definitely an assistant on the coaching staff. The Athletic Department just hasn't announced it yet.
Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.
I can verify through my sources that two assistant coaches have been hired and are working with the team and will be announced soon.
Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-6nH2gF1Do
Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.
Yet fall sports are announcing their schedules. What gives?
Could it be that the new assistants are too busy on recruiting trips to attend a press conference and that's the reason for the delay?
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 05, 2018, 08:38:14 AM
Could it be that the new assistants are too busy on recruiting trips to attend a press conference and that's the reason for the delay?
Do assistants get press conferences at Valpo? Sure, maybe at Duke since the head coach avoids talking to the media as much as possible, but most places it's literally just a story put out by the sports information department with a quote or two from the head coach about the assistant, one or two from the assistant about how excited they are to be at the school, and then just where they've been and what they've accomplished in their career thus far.
Not sure why they'd delay the announcement, but the kids they're recruiting know who they're working for, and that's the most important thing.
Quote from: IrishDawg on July 05, 2018, 12:24:28 PM
Do assistants get press conferences at Valpo?
Just a press release.