OMG. The Cougars have a 6'5" freshman and no one else over 6'4". :o :o
That's not a great prep game for Myrtle Beach.
I'm not doing the pay-per-view for this one.
Quote from: crusadermoe on November 02, 2018, 08:28:59 PM
OMG. The Cougars have a 6'5" freshman and no one else over 6'4". :o :o
That's not a great prep game for Myrtle Beach.
I'm not doing the pay-per-view for this one.
What are the chances Smits still gets pushed around and boxed out on a frequent basis? Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Smits will score 20 like he typically does versus undersized teams, but only grab 5 boards. Valpo by 22.
Quote from: crusadermoe on November 02, 2018, 08:28:59 PMOMG. The Cougars have a 6'5" freshman and no one else over 6'4". :o :o That's not a great prep game for Myrtle Beach. I'm not doing the pay-per-view for this one.
Don't know if I should tell you or not, but this one is free. It on ESPN3 not ESPN+ (the pay site).
Quote from: VUBBFan on November 02, 2018, 11:59:40 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on November 02, 2018, 08:28:59 PMOMG. The Cougars have a 6'5" freshman and no one else over 6'4". :o :o That's not a great prep game for Myrtle Beach. I'm not doing the pay-per-view for this one.
Don't know if I should tell you or not, but this one is free. It on ESPN3 not ESPN+ (the pay site).
Also it's not exactly a true PPV model. Consumers have the option to pay monthly $5 and cancel at anytime or pay a yearly fee of $50 and save a little money if you intend on using the service for more than just the CBB season. I'm going with latter.
Here is VU's TV schedule:
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/1058448664635498496
Fazekus needs to hit about four 3's to get his confidence back, or the upcoming preseason tournament could be a wipeout. Much of our season seems to depend on his shooting. If he just hits 3 of his 11 shots in the Indi game, we would have won. If he can't live up to the high expectations we have placed on him our season is in trouble.
Quote from: nkvu on November 03, 2018, 04:01:17 AM
Fazekus needs to hit about four 3's to get his confidence back, or the upcoming preseason tournament could be a wipeout. Much of our season seems to depend on his shooting. If he just hits 3 of his 11 shots in the Indi game, we would have won. If he can't live up to the high expectations we have placed on him our season is in trouble.
Um, it wasn't just on Ryan. Everybody sucked. 3 of 19 from the 3.
Quote from: vu72 on November 03, 2018, 08:16:18 AM
Quote from: nkvu on November 03, 2018, 04:01:17 AM
Fazekus needs to hit about four 3's to get his confidence back, or the upcoming preseason tournament could be a wipeout. Much of our season seems to depend on his shooting. If he just hits 3 of his 11 shots in the Indi game, we would have won. If he can't live up to the high expectations we have placed on him our season is in trouble.
Um, it wasn't just on Ryan. Everybody sucked. 3 of 19 from the 3.
True, but I think he is the go to for the three. Seems like shooting good is contagious as is shooting bad. If the go to is going good everyone else follows. If the go to struggles everyone else struggles.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 03, 2018, 12:05:11 AMQuote from: VUBBFan on November 02, 2018, 11:59:40 PMQuote from: crusadermoe on November 02, 2018, 08:28:59 PMOMG. The Cougars have a 6'5" freshman and no one else over 6'4". :o :o That's not a great prep game for Myrtle Beach. I'm not doing the pay-per-view for this one.
Don't know if I should tell you or not, but this one is free. It on ESPN3 not ESPN+ (the pay site).
Also it's not exactly a true PPV model. Consumers have the option to pay monthly $5 and cancel at anytime or pay a yearly fee of $50 and save a little money if you intend on using the service for more than just the CBB season. I'm going with latter. Here is VU's TV schedule: https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/1058448664635498496
There is a difference between ESPN3 and ESPN+. ESPN3 requires no fee or subscription to view. For ESPN+ you have to pay the monthly or yearly fee.
We need to put the pressure on from the start and hammer them the entire 40 minutes, Valpo by 35+
Quote from: VUSWIM08-12 on November 04, 2018, 09:36:25 PM
We need to put the pressure on from the start and hammer them the entire 40 minutes, Valpo by 35+
I think we can beat them by 35 but it depends on the mindset and the confidence of this team. I just want to see us play well and I want to see us run an efficient offense. And I want to see Smits, Mileek, Ryan, and Markus absolute dominate them on the boards, specifically Smits and Mileek. There is absolutely no excuse to not completely and utterly dominate them on the boards.
I'm really looking to see how they respond from that debacle on Thursday.
I honestly think that playing our bigs against this team for more than a few minutes is a "no win."
We would be better served not using Derek, Ryan, and Markus simply because they have too much length for this team and won't have any shots contested. We will learn nothing.
Quote from: crusadermoe on November 04, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
I honestly think that playing our bigs against this team for more than a few minutes is a "no win."
We would be better served not using Derek, Ryan, and Markus simply because they have too much length for this team and won't have any shots contested. We will learn nothing.
This team needs to learn to play together and it needs all the pieces (including the bigs) to gain experience together. IMO, they should play this like any normal opponent early on, but they should beat them to a pulp by the end 1st half which will allow for experimentation in the 2nd half.
We need to beat Concordia like Duke beat Ferris State last week, make them question their entire basketball program! I'm not sure if this was posted anywhere else on the board, but Duke won 132-48, 84 POINT SPREAD :o, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kx0APyohjc
A team which in 2017 played Michigan St. very well, ended up losing by 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzXEQ8xeGcU
Quote from: VUSWIM08-12 on November 04, 2018, 11:36:26 PM
We need to beat Concordia like Duke beat Ferris State last week, make them question their entire basketball program! I'm not sure if this was posted anywhere else on the board, but Duke won 132-48, 84 POINT SPREAD :o,
A team which in 2017 played Michigan St. very well, ended up losing by 8.
2 completely different Ferris State teams. This year's is missing 4 starters from last year, including D2 player of the year in 6'11 Zach Hankins who transferred to Xavier and he may start for them. Plus all I think that goes to show is that exhibition games ultimately don't indicate anything about the season. Michigan State had enough talent to win the National Title last year, won the Big Ten regular season, and beat a D2 team by 8 (albeit one that won the D2 National championship and lost 1 other game all year). Duke might get bounced early in the tourney this year as has become a habit with these young teams and won an exhibition game by 84 points.
As others have said, get the shooters some confidence, beat up a small team on the glass, and really just get comfortable running the offensive sets and learning the defensive rotations in a game situation. That's about all you can hope for to max out in a game that really shouldn't challenge this team in the slightest.
Can we beat anyone? Ferris?? ....... Anyone? ......Buehler?.... Anyone?
Quote from: IrishDawg on November 05, 2018, 07:23:12 AMQuote from: VUSWIM08-12 on November 04, 2018, 11:36:26 PMWe need to beat Concordia like Duke beat Ferris State last week, make them question their entire basketball program! I'm not sure if this was posted anywhere else on the board, but Duke won 132-48, 84 POINT SPREAD :o, A team which in 2017 played Michigan St. very well, ended up losing by 8.
2 completely different Ferris State teams. This year's is missing 4 starters from last year, including D2 player of the year in 6'11 Zach Hankins who transferred to Xavier and he may start for them. Plus all I think that goes to show is that exhibition games ultimately don't indicate anything about the season. Michigan State had enough talent to win the National Title last year, won the Big Ten regular season, and beat a D2 team by 8 (albeit one that won the D2 National championship and lost 1 other game all year). Duke might get bounced early in the tourney this year as has become a habit with these young teams and won an exhibition game by 84 points. As others have said, get the shooters some confidence, beat up a small team on the glass, and really just get comfortable running the offensive sets and learning the defensive rotations in a game situation. That's about all you can hope for to max out in a game that really shouldn't challenge this team in the slightest.
Yeah,I watched that MSU/Ferris St. Game last year on BTN, definitely two different teams but UIndy was supposed to be different as they lost several starters and we still played uninspired. Nov 15th is the date I'm looking forward too!
Quote from: VUSWIM08-12 on November 05, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
Yeah,I watched that MSU/Ferris St. Game last year on BTN, definitely two different teams but UIndy was supposed to be different as they lost several starters and we still played uninspired. Nov 15th is the date I'm looking forward too!
They'll be playing #25 Washington on ESPNU November 6th at 9:30 PM CT - definitely a good time for some early scouting.
West Virginia also lost an exhibition (proceeds went to Hurricane Relief, so they were allowed to do it by the NCAA) to Penn State on their home floor, 84-82. Again, doesn't mean a ton other than they aren't unbeatable on their home floor either.
As for Valpo's play, the rebounding figures definitely look uninspired, but without being there at the game to see it, I can't judge if that was actually the case. If you were then you'd definitely know. Butler trailed Southern Indiana for a good portion of the first half this weekend, but other than the first few possessions, I can't say they were playing uninspired. USI was just nailing everything they threw up and Butler had guys missing wide open shots that they should make. I'm hopeful this result isn't an indicator of Valpo's play during the regular season, and it is harder for the guys to get up for a game against a D2 team that they know they should beat handily. This team should certainly be better than what they showed last week based on the roster and the experience that they have.
"Hopefully we'll (We Better damn) see a better performance..."
I'm sorry for being so blunt but there is no excuse to not play better. I believe in this team but I don't want to hear any of the "hopefully" stuff. Rise to the occasion and take care of business.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1059563467672350720
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1059564082733432833
Quote from: VU2014 on November 04, 2018, 10:43:18 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on November 04, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
I honestly think that playing our bigs against this team for more than a few minutes is a "no win."
We would be better served not using Derek, Ryan, and Markus simply because they have too much length for this team and won't have any shots contested. We will learn nothing.
This team needs to learn to play together and it needs all the pieces (including the bigs) to gain experience together. IMO, they should play this like any normal opponent early on, but they should beat them to a pulp by the end 1st half which will allow for experimentation in the 2nd half.
I hope it plays out like you predict. After a competitive closed scrimmage and competitive exhibition game, the team hasn't really had a chance to experiment much. Having a chance to try a bunch of different combinations and different types of defenses would be really helpful in preparing the team for the Myrtle Beach tourney.
Is it just me or did the exhibition performance take some excitement out of the balloon from fans? Just getting a sense over social media the season opener enthusiasm just isn't there right now. Maybe it's just me.
Perhaps a good barometer is the lack of furious postings today to this thread less than 4 hours out ?
Election night will take away much enthusiasm/interest from tonight's game.
Paul
Certainly true for me. Hoping to see some sad faces on many of the networks by 9 p.m.
Regardless of your side of the fence, it seems the polls are now useless and therefore the TV drama escalates.
No one answers stranger phone numbers anymore or has landlines. Some polls could not get a sample size after 10,000 calls to a House member's district. I have to wonder if these companies are hedging against that with their suspicious number of dead ties and toss ups.
I want to stop seeing us run every offensive set through the 5. Derrik and Mileek both take too much time setting up and clearing space for an entry pass, take too much time backing down their opponent once they get the ball, giving other defenders all the time in the world to slide over and stop them in their tracks. By the time they pass it back out, there's 8 or 9 seconds left and invariably someone ends up forcing a shot from somewhere. Remember the MJ-led Bulls. Feed it inside to Cartwright on the first trip down the court, and never feed him in the low post the rest of the game. This team's offensive strength is not now or ever will be playing inside out. Our stars are perimeter/slashers. Give them the ball and put them in a position to score as much as possible. Tell the bigs to crash the boards, get some freaking offensive rebounds, and get some garbage 2nd chance points. If they can't/won't do that (Derrik), put them as far as possible on the end of the bench. BTW whichever reporter (Osipoff maybe) said one of the few encouraging things from the exhibition game was Derrik on offense or some such thing must have been following the game on live stats. They could not possibly have been there in person.
Quote from: 78crusader on November 06, 2018, 03:19:32 PM
Election night will take away much enthusiasm/interest from tonight's game.
Paul
No matter how the mid term races turn out, the sun will come up just fine tomorrow. Not the same can be said if our beloved Crusaders don't play well again tonight. The game is more important. Said as we're loading in the car, tickets in hand. Go Crusaders!
Quote from: wh on November 06, 2018, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: 78crusader on November 06, 2018, 03:19:32 PM
Election night will take away much enthusiasm/interest from tonight's game.
Paul
No matter how the mid term races turn out, the sun will come up just fine tomorrow. Not the same can be said if our beloved Crusaders don't play well again tonight. The game is more important. Said as we're loading in the car, tickets in hand. Go Crusaders!
Well said. Let's all agree that we don't need any political talk on the basketball forum tonight. Please and thank you. Go Valpo!
It looks like Ryan is there nice and early getting shots in. Hopefully the nerves have cooled a little bit and he gets that feel for his shot back.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1059954507491299329
This happens from time to time, why is it only available on my iPhone and laptop? When I log onto ESPN App on my Fire Stick TV it's not listed....
Anyone else with similar experience?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 06, 2018, 06:31:26 PM
This happens from time to time, why is it only available on my iPhone and laptop? When I log onto ESPN App on my Fire Stick TV it's not listed....
Anyone else with similar experience?
Disregard, appeared miraculously with 10-minutes to go...
No J in attendance tonight. Something has to be up.
When we renovate the ARC maybe we should putting no seating in the student section so it forces them to stand...
https://twitter.com/sback15/status/1059984665925349377
It appears someone lit a fire under this team.
Sure hope this same team can show up in future games.
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I know that the team could win by 100 tonight and many of y'all will still be upset, but I am enjoying my first glimpse of college basketball thus far. Not a terrible crowd for a Tuesday non-DI. You know, the endzone student sections at Cameron Indoor are just risers like choirs sing on. Maybe not a bad idea!
Quote from: VU2014 on November 06, 2018, 07:39:03 PM
When we renovate the ARC maybe we should putting no seating in the student section so it forces them to stand...
Isn't that what Duke does in Cameron? Great distinctive approach to the student section. In my posted renovation dreams I thought that all seats in the lower bowl would be chairbacks and the Valparaizone would be bench seats. This is better. Make them stand. Create a tradition. Force them to be involved.
2nd chance points we're giving up in the 2nd half... A little cold shooting for us...
Not anymore. Up 93-56.
Well...enjoyed about 75% of the game. I think JFL is my new favorite Valpo player, love just about everything I saw from him tonight. Sackey is fun too, but I'm not sure I want him to be a linchpin of the offence...yet. Mileek has to get things figured out in a hurry, real games are coming soon!
All in all, doesn't matter, but at least gets the nasty performance of Thursday a little further in the rear view mirror. Guys have at least seen the ball go through the hoop!
121-65 final. Holy cow. I just wanted a 20+ point margin. Actually, up to about, what, 7 minutes into the second half Concordia wasn't too far (well, around -20) out of it and showed lots of grit.
I liked what I saw and am still optimistic that this will be a very good team going down the MVC stretch run. Lots of wrinkles still to be ironed out but these guys will get there. :thumbsup:
Bring on the Hilltoppers!
We beat a bad D2 team but it feels good right now. There is definitely a ton of room for improvement but everyone should enjoy this win tonight. There are a lot of positives to take away.
Javon Freeman is the real deal. We are fortunate we got him. Will love seeing him play the next 4 years.
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1060010098305708038
I agree that something has to be up with Jay. If someone is injured, they are always on the bench.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 06, 2018, 11:48:18 PM
We beat a bad D2 team but it feels good right now. There is definitely a ton of room for improvement but everyone should enjoy this win tonight. There are a lot of positives to take away.
Concordia-Chicago is NCAA Div III.
Quote from: bbtds on November 07, 2018, 01:57:49 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 06, 2018, 11:48:18 PM
We beat a bad D2 team but it feels good right now. There is definitely a ton of room for improvement but everyone should enjoy this win tonight. There are a lot of positives to take away.
Concordia-Chicago is NCAA Div III.
Is there truly a difference in D2 vs D3 as far as abilities go? Or is it just sports budget spend?
I thought the student showing was pretty solid for a Tuesday night and the opponent. Overall a very solid performance and Derrik looked very good. This is the team I was expecting to see. Agree that Maleek needs to figure some things out. He looked lost.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 07, 2018, 05:47:16 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 07, 2018, 01:57:49 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 06, 2018, 11:48:18 PM
We beat a bad D2 team but it feels good right now. There is definitely a ton of room for improvement but everyone should enjoy this win tonight. There are a lot of positives to take away.
Concordia-Chicago is NCAA Div III.
Is there truly a difference in D2 vs D3 as far as abilities go? Or is it just sports budget spend?
Depends on the program, but generally speaking, D2 schools are significantly more talented than D3 as they can give out athletic scholarships.
Personally I don't think there's anything that can be taken from this game, because it's not just a D3 team, but an awful D3 team (they've had 2 winning seasons in the last 25 years), but good to get a win and have everyone healthy at the end of it. Next Thursday's game will be far more revealing, and WKU just got stomped by 18 in Seattle last night, so we'll see what happens.
Coming into the last two games, the talk was how much growth McMillian has had in the off season. In a game where he should have dominated easily, he struggles. Meanwhile, Smitts does what he is expected to do against lesser competition.
In the much too early prediction, McMillan at the 5 may be a failed experiment, he is a more natural 4 and exclusively playing the 5 may be detrimental to his development. But a lot of that will depend on what the deal with Sorolla is...
If memory serves, when Mileek signed with VU, wasn't the writeup on him something like ... At Merrillville, because of the personnel there, he was forced to play "out of position" at the 5, but was recruited to Valpo as a 4? Yet, this season he's back at the 5 again?
On another topic, I wasn't aware until I read the game Recap that CUC was playing this only as an exhibtion. We gotta stop scheduling like that.
I hope Mileek gets to go back to playing the 4 and only go 5 from time to time for match up reasons when/if Jay returns.
That Golder dunk was special. JFL is sooo smooth out there.
Still saw a few times where guys didn't know where to go on the offensive end. One that sticks out had Smits and Golder both trying to post up within a foot or two of each other in the first half.
Still, good to not see our name on a Ken Pomeroy post after night one.
(Side note: nobody is beating Duke this year)
Definitely concerning to see Mileek struggle yesterday. I understand he's not a true 5, but he still had a big size/athletic advantage.
Solely based on yesterday's game, I think JFL and Sackey look more comfortable on the court as freshman than any of last year's class looked at any point. Hopefully they continue that trend heading into Myrtle Beach.
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 07, 2018, 09:17:19 AM
On another topic, I wasn't aware until I read the game Recap that CUC was playing this only as an exhibtion. We gotta stop scheduling like that.
Does this really impact anything? It looked like they were trying their best, not just going through the motions like some teams do in exhibitions. Does this change how the game is evaluated by the NCAA's new NET System?
Quote from: EddieCabot on November 07, 2018, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 07, 2018, 09:17:19 AM
On another topic, I wasn't aware until I read the game Recap that CUC was playing this only as an exhibtion. We gotta stop scheduling like that.
Does this really impact anything? It looked like they were trying their best, not just going through the motions like some teams do in exhibitions. Does this change how the game is evaluated by the NCAA's new NET System?
Like the old system, this game won't count under NET.
Quote from: valpotx on November 07, 2018, 01:29:23 AM
I agree that something has to be up with Jay. If someone is injured, they are always on the bench.
I was surprised there wasn't any question in the postgame conference about the missing Jay. This issue appears to be the elephant in the room that nobody seems to want to acknowledge or address. In fact, when I had my cereal at breakfast I looked on the milk carton to see if Jay's photo was on it.
Maybe the exhibition and the Concordia game were his 2 game suspension. They may just not want to address it publicly because they don't want to resurface the incident. That's my best guess.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 03:51:04 PM
Maybe the exhibition and the Concordia game were his 2 game suspension. They may just not want to address it publicly because they don't want to resurface the incident. That's my best guess.
Was there another incident? I remember J sitting out two games last season, but hadn't heard about any additional issues.
I have no reason to doubt the information the university has shared. If something else is going on, I'm sure that Paul or the radio guy would have that information.
Quote from: IndyEIT777 on November 07, 2018, 09:44:10 AM
Definitely concerning to see Mileek struggle yesterday. I understand he's not a true 5, but he still had a big size/athletic advantage.
Solely based on yesterday's game, I think JFL and Sackey look more comfortable on the court as freshman than any of last year's class looked at any point. Hopefully they continue that trend heading into Myrtle Beach.
Coach Lottich was right about the team being extra focused after the disappointment against UIndy. Great performances up and down the roster!
Quote from: EddieCabot on November 07, 2018, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 03:51:04 PM
Maybe the exhibition and the Concordia game were his 2 game suspension. They may just not want to address it publicly because they don't want to resurface the incident. That's my best guess.
Was there another incident? I remember J sitting out two games last season, but hadn't heard about any additional issues.
I have no reason to doubt the information the university has shared. If something else is going on, I'm sure that Paul or the radio guy would have that information.
I thought Jay was going to sit out the first 2 games of this season. I don't think he sat out last season.
I wish they'd just address it publicly. By not talking about why he isn't on the bench just leads people to speculate. And with all the weird occurrences that have happened to this program the last few years they can't blame the fan-base for wondering or speculating.
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 04:11:09 PMI thought Jay was going to sit out the first 2 games of this season. I don't think he sat out last season. I wish they'd just address it publicly. By not talking about why he isn't on the bench just leads people to speculate. And with all the weird occurrences that have happened to this program the last few years they can't blame the fan-base for wondering or speculating.
Unless there is another incident that I am unaware of, Jay sat out the first two games of last year against North Park and Trinity Christian. Micah is the one facing a suspension this year.
Quote from: EddieCabot on November 07, 2018, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 03:51:04 PM
Maybe the exhibition and the Concordia game were his 2 game suspension. They may just not want to address it publicly because they don't want to resurface the incident. That's my best guess.
Was there another incident? I remember J sitting out two games last season, but hadn't heard about any additional issues.
I have no reason to doubt the information the university has shared. If something else is going on, I'm sure that Paul or the radio guy would have that information.
It was discussed last year that J should sit out several different games that were offered up by different posters but he never sat out his 2 games. Lottich has always had the option of having Sorolla sit out the most meaningless games this season. Although, I agree that Paul or Todd would probably pass this info along but maybe the coaching staff asked the media guys not to mention it. Soon we will all know.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/#nt=mastheadnavbar
Been trying to down load this image but could not get it to print, but if you click on the link this is the story from the Post Trib saying Jay along with Joe sat out two games last year.
Quote from: VUBBFan on November 07, 2018, 05:15:43 PMhttps://www.chicagotribune.com/#nt=mastheadnavbar Been trying to down load this image but could not get it to print, but if you click on the link this is the story from the Post Trib saying Jay along with Joe sat out two games last year.
Crap, @#@#$. Still can't get the right image but google Jaume Sorolla suspension and you can get the article
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on November 07, 2018, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 03:51:04 PM
Maybe the exhibition and the Concordia game were his 2 game suspension. They may just not want to address it publicly because they don't want to resurface the incident. That's my best guess.
Was there another incident? I remember J sitting out two games last season, but hadn't heard about any additional issues.
I have no reason to doubt the information the university has shared. If something else is going on, I'm sure that Paul or the radio guy would have that information.
I thought Jay was going to sit out the first 2 games of this season. I don't think he sat out last season.
I wish they'd just address it publicly. By not talking about why he isn't on the bench just leads people to speculate. And with all the weird occurrences that have happened to this program the last few years they can't blame the fan-base for wondering or speculating.
Dug up this post from a year ago ...
Quote from: agibson on November 06, 2017, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 06, 2017, 02:26:22 PM
We all knew Sorolla was caught underage drinking, but I was unaware Joe Burton was with him. Can anyone confirm that Joe Burton is sitting out the first 2 games also? This is the first I'm hearing about this.
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/927603722729021440
I feel bad digging around re students' records. But, it is public record.
Joe's case does seem to be around the same time
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/porter-county-crime-times/article_149874d8-2549-502a-9197-1019a08f5640.html
He was apparently already 21 (possession of marijuana).
And here's Sorolla
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/porter-county-crime-times/article_3a027504-b2f2-58ea-8c42-0ddc7c2cc9c9.html
so, from the dates, it looks like two separate incidents. And that Burton's case somehow escaped attention.
I stand corrected. Maybe I mixed up my suspensions.
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Nov 8, 2018
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1060388734347165696
Quote from: EddieCabot on November 07, 2018, 04:07:54 PM
Coach Lottich was right about the team being extra focused after the disappointment against UIndy. Great performances up and down the roster!
I was bored, so made a quick visit to the record book. The 121-65 win tied for the 4th highest single game scoring output in Valpo history! In addition, the 56 point margin of victory ranks 7th all-time. Great job by the team to keep playing hard for the entire game. After letting Concordia crawl within 20 points mid-way through the 2nd half, Valpo really turned it on to finish on a 49-13 run over the last 12 minutes.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062080048419799041
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062079227703541761
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2018, 04:11:09 PMI wish they'd just address it publicly. By not talking about why he isn't on the bench just leads people to speculate. And with all the weird occurrences that have happened to this program the last few years they can't blame the fan-base for wondering or speculating.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1062080358362038273
Quote from: VUBBFan on November 12, 2018, 02:46:00 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062080048419799041
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062079227703541761
I'm anxious to see what both players bring to the party.
Quote from: wh on November 12, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on November 12, 2018, 02:46:00 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062080048419799041
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062079227703541761
I'm anxious to see what both players bring to the party.
Given their injuries I wouldn't expect either to bring much to the Myrtle Beach party but I am expecting solid improvements from both. My hunch is that Micah, Jay and especially Derrik are all sick and tired of being referred to as a bunch of Caitlyn Jenner wannabes. All should be poised and anxious to start proving their manhood. :twocents:
Quote from: justducky on November 12, 2018, 09:15:54 PM
Quote from: wh on November 12, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on November 12, 2018, 02:46:00 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062080048419799041
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1062079227703541761
I'm anxious to see what both players bring to the party.
Given their injuries I wouldn't expect either to bring much to the Myrtle Beach party but I am expecting solid improvements from both. My hunch is that Micah, Jay and especially Derrik are all sick and tired of being referred to as a bunch of Caitlyn Jenner wannabes. All should be poised and anxious to start proving their manhood. :twocents:
I'm curious as to how much outside noise the team hears. There is a definitely a narrative that has been built about certain guys. I sort of hope the team doesn't read this board because it can't be healthy to hear all the criticism and praise they get.
I was listening to Paul's latest podcast and he had Erik Buggs on he was mentioning how the players these days read and hear everything.