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Title: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: wh on February 13, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
The Crusaders are 7 point underdogs in this one. Seems too high to me. Look for the Crusaders to win this one straight up.

Go Crusaders! Keep building!
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 06:35:06 PM
I agree with WH, crusaders shouldn't be 7 point dogs. 

Also here is a comparison between the two point guards tonight. 

Sackey averages more assist and less tu rivers than the enemy guard. 

Hope I didn't offend anyone by calling our competition an enemy. 
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: justducky on February 13, 2021, 06:36:32 PM
Thanks to wh for opening this game thread! It takes a brave man to open game threads for a team as erratic and unpredictable as this one.

One way or another I think we get a split but I have no idea how we will do it.   
AND          GO Crusaders!
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 07:01:34 PM
Over/under 7

The amount of times the announcers call us Crusaders
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 13, 2021, 07:02:05 PM
Haha, one of the Fox Sports announcers already almost said Crusaders, but caught himself at the last moment.  Gooooo Crusaders!
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 13, 2021, 07:05:15 PM
Wow, Mileek in the starting lineup.  He has been doing better, and I hope the same continues
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 13, 2021, 07:11:35 PM
We have to win, when Krikke hits a 3, and Sackey makes a layup, correct?
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 13, 2021, 07:22:02 PM
I know that a lot of folks have traditionally not been big on Morgan, but the dude plays his heart out.  He has an absolutely terrible-looking shot, but he has found his game, and he pressures really well on defense.  He is definitely not a Kiser-like glue guy, but he has become our steady pace in some of these key wins, making sure that he drives the lane, doesn't traditionally commit turnovers (2 travels today, however), and rebounds.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: may know on February 13, 2021, 07:24:52 PM
+21 over Vegas 10 minutes in.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 07:45:43 PM
How did I not put last month's pay check on this game? 
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 07:46:13 PM
Crusaders are playing pissed like someone stole their mascot. 
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 13, 2021, 07:50:07 PM
Come on, Eron.  Just let him take that shot...
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: AB on February 13, 2021, 07:53:32 PM
Feast or famine from 3 yet again.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valporun on February 13, 2021, 07:56:31 PM
We just have to keep the pace going, and put pedal to the metal!
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: covufan on February 13, 2021, 08:01:28 PM
Can we play a full 40 minutes?


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Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 08:03:31 PM
Yeah, that free 3 points Eron gave them at the end better not come back and cost me money
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 08:35:58 PM
Crusaders won't lose very many games when shooting 50% from 3 point line. 
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: nkvu on February 13, 2021, 08:55:22 PM
Nice win. They looked as good tonight as they looked bad last game as they looked good the game before that. Talk about a roller coaster.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: hailcrusaders on February 13, 2021, 08:56:57 PM
Way to go, Crusaders.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 13, 2021, 08:58:06 PM
Nice spacing and hustle throughout.  The shooting was a bonus, but if we play with the same intensity tomorrow, I don't care if we lose.  I just hate watching us when there is no movement off the ball, and guys not chasing after the ball on defense.  This team was a joy to watch today, and show how much potential we have, if the core remains together.  Another bonus is that we are now 1-14 at UNI!

Crusaders for the win!
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpo64 on February 13, 2021, 09:02:21 PM
We are seeing what happens to a young, developing team...look terrific one night, terrible the  next, good  shooting, then you can't hit the broad side of a barn.  I like the experience we are getting from a variety of players.  What happened to Barrett?  Hurt?
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 13, 2021, 09:11:11 PM
Yes Barrett is hurt. Can't remember the severity of the injury though.

I'm really happy for this win! It's the first time we've ever won in Cedar Falls! Yet it continues to underscore how maddeningly inconsistent we are this year.

Ups:

Beat top 25 Drake team handing them their first loss

First win in Cedar Falls

Terrific gut check win in Double OT over Bradley

Swept Illinois State

Close against Vandy and Purdue (if moral victories are your thing)

Downs:

Blasted by Bradley in the rematch

Not competitive against Missouri State

Swept by Evansville

Blew the front end of the Drake series

Only one D1 non con win

Should have beaten Purdue and Vandy

As nice as it is to see the young talent coming together (and it is very nice I hope they all stay together because this team could be good next year) It's very frustrating and disconcerting that I don't know on any given night if we're about to win by 20 or lose by 20. I hope to see more consistently good play down the stretch and a lot of it next season! 


From a macro prospective it feels like Valpo Evansville and Illinois State are getting better Missouri State and Indiana State are becoming more consistent and teams like UNI and SIU are gaining a lot of experience to players who wouldn't otherwise get it because of injuries. There could be a silver lining in all of that next year especially for a team like UNI who has been forced to learn how to play without A.J. Green. When he comes back to lead them with the experience they've gained this year they could be very good and actually be able to win more consistently because they don't have to rely on Green going God mode. Next year could be a really good year for the Valley if things go back to normal. If we can also get Murray State and Belmont thanks to the realignment events that's even better assuming the rest of the league stays together! Right now though I'm focused on the (admittedly fading) two bid dream Valpo's growth and hoping whoever we send to the tournament does well! We've got a couple of really good teams in this league that could be a real problem for teams come March and we are blessed to be able to play with these programs even if the resulting increased frequency of losses is frustrating for me as a fan. It's still rewarding to play alongside these MVC schools. 
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: justducky on February 13, 2021, 09:36:57 PM
Eron played almost 30 min and did not take a shot, not even a free throw. I can't remember him passing up any open looks because I don't think he had many.

Did Mileek actually play good defense with no fouls or was I hallucinating?
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2021, 10:45:19 PM
I didn't realized that Valpo and Northern Iowa were conference foes in the AMCU.  This dates back to 1982. 

Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpotx on February 14, 2021, 12:25:28 AM
My, have times changed, when Cleveland State was once considered for the A-10 lol.

Relating to Zion Morgan, did anyone else notice that his mid-range jump shot at the FT line, is a lot smoother than elsewhere?  It looks like he holds the ball above his head a little bit lower, than other shots I remember him taking. 
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: valpopal on February 14, 2021, 12:53:10 AM
Quote from: valpotx on February 14, 2021, 12:25:28 AM
My, have times changed, when Cleveland State was once considered for the A-10 lol.


Yep, that was following when they had a great team led by Mouse McFadden and were coached by Kevin Mackey. They made it to the Sweet Sixteen as a 14 seed in 1986—and came within one point of making the Elite Eight, losing on a basket by Navy's David Robinson—beating Bobby Knight's #3 seed Hoosiers along the way. I still remember the time Crusader fans in the student section threw slices of American cheese on the ARC court for Mouse! Interesting to learn they used their Sweet Sixteen money toward building a new stadium, facilities which helped make them attractive to the A-10 for consideration. If I remember correctly, McFadden, Mackey, and others from Cleveland State had somewhat troubled futures ahead of them.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: bbtds on February 14, 2021, 06:37:35 AM
Quote from: valporun on February 13, 2021, 07:56:31 PM
We just have to keep the pace going, and put pedal to the metal!

I know we would have to steal this from the NBA team at Bankers Life but wouldn't Pacers make the perfect nickname and include some of our history too. Okay, I'm a bit biased but it ain't that bad.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: vu72 on February 14, 2021, 08:23:46 AM
Wait...IUPUI and Oakland changer their mascots?
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: tjjvalpo on February 14, 2021, 08:47:00 AM
Nice win! let's do it again tomorrow. 15 assists on 27 baskets, much better effort than the Bradley game.
Title: Re: Crusaders at UNI, Sat., 02/13/21, 7p CT
Post by: bbtds on February 14, 2021, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: vu72 on February 14, 2021, 08:23:46 AM
Wait...IUPUI and Oakland changer their mascots?

Both schools changed their mascots as part of their move from a lower division to Div. 1.