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Title: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on November 22, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
7 hours til game time. Is Kithier playing ? Krikke? Can we win a game PLEASE?????? We're at +6.5, +220 on the money line, O/U is 126.5.

Beacons 67
Gamecocks 64
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 22, 2021, 10:05:47 AM
Quote from: VUSWIM08-12 on November 22, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
7 hours til game time. Is Kithier playing ? Krikke? Can we win a game PLEASE?????? We're at +6.5, +220 on the money line, O/U is 126.5.

Beacons 67
Gamecocks 64


If either isn't playing I would bet heavily on another loss.  If both are a go then we win going away.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: IndyEIT777 on November 22, 2021, 11:08:11 AM
Even if both Ben and Thomas are playing, this leadership and this team have given me no confidence against any opponent right now. Not to mention, Jacksonville State lost on a buzzer beater at Wichita St.

Jacksonville St. 70
Valpo 60
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on November 22, 2021, 02:01:52 PM
Vegas finally setting a line that Valpo may cover......or will they.  So far the Beacons have been underachieving based on Vegas lines, going 0-3 ATS. 

0-3 is also our record. 

I think we cover this.  They are a A-Sun team......
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: bb33 on November 22, 2021, 02:27:55 PM
My source says both are playing.  I'll see how good my source is.  Go Valpo.  I'll continue to be optimistic through November. 
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on November 22, 2021, 02:52:36 PM
I hate these MTEs that are on Flo Hoops. Drives me nuts.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on November 22, 2021, 02:52:36 PM
I hate these MTEs that are on Flo Hoops. Drives me nuts.

What does it cost to get on Flohoops?
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 22, 2021, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on November 22, 2021, 02:52:36 PM
I hate these MTEs that are on Flo Hoops. Drives me nuts.

What does it cost to get on Flohoops?

You have to sign up for a year at $12 a month or a bunch up front for a year.  Rediculous
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 04:16:40 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 22, 2021, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on November 22, 2021, 02:52:36 PM
I hate these MTEs that are on Flo Hoops. Drives me nuts.

What does it cost to get on Flohoops?

You have to sign up for a year at $12 a month or a bunch up front for a year.  Rediculous
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on November 22, 2021, 02:52:36 PM
I hate these MTEs that are on Flo Hoops. Drives me nuts.

Radio for me.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: RS on November 22, 2021, 04:28:23 PM
I see where the Drexel / Tulane game is in delay with Tulane ahead.  Not sure now when Valpo game will start.  Does anyone have any info on what the problem is and when Valpo will play?
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 04:34:44 PM
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/1462899934198386688?s=20
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 04:37:49 PM
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/1462907444372426756?s=20
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: RS on November 22, 2021, 04:42:50 PM
Thanks Valpo LI.  went to the tulane fan website and saw the same
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 05:05:44 PM
Crazy things are happening in the Triangle!!!
First ACU has to pull out and Valpo gets paired with Jacksonville St.
Now Zeus is flexing his mighty muscles and knocking on the roof.
Next you'll tell me the 0-3 Beacons will shine their light bright and win the whole MTE!
-I love it
Go Beacons  ;D
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: justducky on November 22, 2021, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 05:05:44 PM
Crazy things are happening in the Triangle!!!
First ACU has to pull out and Valpo gets paired with Jacksonville St.
Now Zeus is flexing his mighty muscles and knocking on the roof.
Next you'll tell me the 0-3 Beacons will shine their light bright and win the whole MTE!
-I love it
Go Beacons  ;D

If divine intervention is our only hope I'll be glad to accept it.  :)
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: valpotx on November 22, 2021, 06:20:58 PM
Looks like it is moving to the practice court, with Drexel/Tulane starting at 8 pm EDT.  We would play after that finishes.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on November 22, 2021, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: valpotx on November 22, 2021, 06:20:58 PM
Looks like it is moving to the practice court, with Drexel/Tulane starting at 8 pm EDT.  We would play after that finishes.
I would guess EST
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 06:44:34 PM
Toledo beat Charlotte 98-86
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 06:52:53 PM
Updated Brackets
(https://bahamarhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/2021-Nassau-Bracket-Web-Revised-copy.png)
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Smj on November 22, 2021, 07:03:53 PM
Frustrating because I bought the flohoops and THEN they announced the court change....


Ugh....
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 07:07:14 PM
6:20 left in 2nd half
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 07:07:40 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/playbyplay?gameId=401369828
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 07:33:14 PM
Going to OT
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 22, 2021, 07:33:49 PM
The flipping game just went to overtime.  Our game probably starts at 8:10 central.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: may know on November 22, 2021, 07:50:28 PM
First rain delay in VU MBB history.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 08:11:35 PM
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/1462964744323801089

Guess who Back!!!
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 08:15:31 PM
And he has Valpo's first 6 points  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: IndyEIT777 on November 22, 2021, 08:32:14 PM
Once again, where is the 3 point defense??? Letting one of their bench players hit 4 3s in the first 10 minutes,,,
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: mj on November 22, 2021, 09:08:30 PM
Jax State shooting 7-15 from 3. There's that bad luck again!
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 09:19:25 PM
Todd is getting excited.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 09:19:25 PM
Todd is getting excited.
Umm that was short-lived  :-X
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 09:47:56 PM
Huge win.  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 09:49:57 PM
When does King start?
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 22, 2021, 09:53:49 PM
Anderson has a nose for the ball. Hustler.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2021, 09:54:15 PM
Glad your Back Ben Krikke!!!
25 POINTS!!!!!
What a stud!
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 22, 2021, 09:56:00 PM
FINALLY!!!  What we all have been waiting for, having Ben an Thomas in the game together! Great win against a very good team.  Would anybody trade Daniel Sackey for Trevor Anderson?  The future returns to bright!
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: RS on November 22, 2021, 10:03:03 PM
Good win. Krikke and Barrett.  A big difference.  Lets all be patient until King gets eligible.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: valpopal on November 22, 2021, 10:03:14 PM
It took a little longer because of Kithier's foul trouble in the first half, but the combination of Kithier and Krikke produced 22 points in the second half. Look forward to seeing the Special K lineup of Kithier, Krikke, and King. Speaking of Ks: Kudos to the team on lack of turnovers as well, committing only 6. Finally, this was the way to perform to close a game, outscoring JSU 18-9 following the last media timeout!
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Valpo Joe on November 22, 2021, 10:08:38 PM
FREAKIN' BEACONS win their 1st game  :thewave:  GO VALPO   The Brown has turned to Gold :dance:
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: IndyEIT777 on November 22, 2021, 10:12:52 PM
Ben Krikke is a stud, maybe his best game defensively at Valpo, nevermind the 25 points. Great job holding onto the ball this game. Defense overall was better too. Trevor Anderson knows how to play the game, props to him hitting the boards. Hope Kithier bounces back tomorrow.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: wh on November 22, 2021, 10:19:42 PM
Nothing like a well played team victory over a good opponent to raise the spirits. Now let's get on a roll!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 22, 2021, 10:24:46 PM
Good. I hope it's the first of many. Glad Ben is back. Maybe we can win this thing. But for right now it's on to the next.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: nkvu on November 22, 2021, 10:27:50 PM
At last, a win!!  Really dialed up the D in the second half, made plays, and hit free throws in the clutch to win it. Great coming out party for Krikke. Fingers crossed that the ankle holds up. When he and Kithier can play without one or the other getting in foul trouble, they will be really tough to handle. Confidence builder for the team. Now do it again tomorrow!
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: vu84v2 on November 22, 2021, 10:38:57 PM
Nice win! Now go get another win against Coastal Carolina.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: vok22 on November 22, 2021, 10:56:25 PM
We also scored 50 points in the second half—against a D1 opponent too ! Wish it would've been on TV to see if the offense flowed better with Krikke or what the deal was on that. Defintiely cut down on the turnovers which helped.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: wh on November 23, 2021, 02:34:07 AM
I see that Jacksonville State was picked to finish 3rd in the 12-team A-10 Conference preseason men's bb coaches poll. 5th in the media poll.

Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: justducky on November 23, 2021, 06:10:24 AM
I didn't watch or listen and know nothing. 31 minutes for Anderson and 4 for DeAveiro. Who got the other 5 point guard minutes or was it split? I'm not too worried their offensive mesh but how well do Kithier and Krikke function together on defense?

Was Kithier playing hurt or was his reduced minutes all foul related? Any comments on the play of Barrett?
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: IndyValpo on November 23, 2021, 06:55:17 AM
Quote from: wh on November 23, 2021, 02:34:07 AM
I see that Jacksonville State was picked to finish 3rd in the 12-team A-10 Conference preseason men's bb coaches poll. 5th in the media poll.


You meant the A-Sun
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: FWalum on November 23, 2021, 07:28:12 AM
Quote from: justducky on November 23, 2021, 06:10:24 AMAny comments on the play of Barrett?

I think many have overlooked the contributions that Conner makes on the court. It hurt us last year when he was injured and we saw the difference he can make last night. The kid is hard nosed with a high BB IQ and for the most part takes good shots.

If people on the board think Matt uses advanced metrics to determine playing time, then this game validated why Connor played 21+ minutes.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on November 23, 2021, 07:39:21 AM
I didn't watch or listen. 

But JSU had a bench player go off and hit 7 of 11 three pointers.     

To hold them to 70 and win by 8 points when a bench player goes off like that against us is a good sign. 

I thing when King is available he takes up most of Eron's minutes.  Sorry Eron, I still like you as a person and as a leader.  Hopefully Eron does not in turn steal Barrett's minutes because that guy can shoot.  I like Edwards coming off the bench as I think it keeps his ego in check a little bit and has him more focused on quality over quantity.

Can't wait to see a starting lineup of
Krikke
Kithier
King
Barrett
Anderson 

Bring Taylor, Edwards, Devario off the bench because Taylor and Ewards are both starter quality it gives our 2nd lineup a little more punch.   Barrett being our 3 point spot up guy will benifit from being out there with triple K on the floor as a perfect guy to kick it out to for wide open 3's.   
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: bb33 on November 23, 2021, 09:00:00 AM
King on Jax was a lights out shooter. He was hot. At one point all their points were from 1 and their big 50.
I wouldn't call out our team bc he was a bench player.  That's like Connor coming in and lighting it up. He can shoot.  Feed the hot hand.  And they did.

Valpo played great. And i think we are finally looking like the team we thought we could  to be.  And we finally closed out a game.  Big victory.   If we beat CC we could rematch Toledo.   That will be a big tell.

and now we have three games here  so kings return stays on schedule.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on November 23, 2021, 09:20:23 AM
Good job and good win.  The alternative just didn't seem right, 1-3 much better than winless 0-4.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on November 23, 2021, 09:38:20 AM
It's also nice that some of things the players were already doing well like Anderson's rebounding and Sheldon's defense gets to pay more dividends when there is another strong scorer on the floor allowing them to focus their energy.  Ben's scoring/inside presence was such a big hole for us we had lots of people trying to fill it and then not focusing on what they really could bring to the team and growing in their role.  Now hopefully what you can see is them improving in their strengths and being able to slowly start to increase their points on the stat sheet so that we have well-rounded efforts.  Losing the focal point at the beginning is definitely going to throw you into disarray but I think after this game you can start to see what people were high on this team.

Need to increase 3 point defense for sure(too many free points right now that allow the games to stay tight) and I think we will start to see some real success.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 23, 2021, 09:38:39 AM
KenPom After games last night

Valpo
From 256
To 237

Jax St 143, from 125
Costal Carolina 248
Toledo 119
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 23, 2021, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: crusader05 on November 23, 2021, 09:38:20 AM
It's also nice that some of things the players were already doing well like Anderson's rebounding and Sheldon's defense gets to pay more dividends when there is another strong scorer on the floor allowing them to focus their energy.  Ben's scoring/inside presence was such a big hole for us we had lots of people trying to fill it and then not focusing on what they really could bring to the team and growing in their role.  Now hopefully what you can see is them improving in their strengths and being able to slowly start to increase their points on the stat sheet so that we have well-rounded efforts.  Losing the focal point at the beginning is definitely going to throw you into disarray but I think after this game you can start to see what people were high on this team.

Need to increase 3 point defense for sure(too many free points right now that allow the games to stay tight) and I think we will start to see some real success.

At full strength, how about Matt making this team a well-oiled machine. He's got the talent.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: wh on November 23, 2021, 10:25:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gVrY8Mflo
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 23, 2021, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: wh on November 23, 2021, 10:25:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gVrY8Mflo

Any comments on Matt's demeanor after a win?
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 23, 2021, 11:25:20 AM
All Times Eastern
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE4m_zpUcAIoW3Y?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 23, 2021, 01:45:46 PM
Well hell, I would've done my hair had I known the zoom was going public.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: FWalum on November 23, 2021, 02:14:40 PM
It was interesting to hear Matt talk about how hard they were on Sheldon in practice and when watching video. Sheldon is a very very gifted athlete, but as we have all seen he is sometimes not adept at the team game. He made some egregious errors on the defensive side in the previous game that cost us several times. He has the makings of an outstanding defensive player, and one on one he is just that, but sometimes he gets lost in the team concepts. It sounds like he did a lot better last night.
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on November 23, 2021, 02:16:13 PM
https://twitter.com/IndyEIT777/status/1462993081867853824
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: Chairback on November 23, 2021, 03:17:57 PM
PO. It looks like you had a busy night!   Thanks for keeping us all up to date.  Much appreciated and excellent as always. 
Title: Re: Valpo vs Jacksonville St. at 4:30pm CST on Flo Hoops
Post by: IndyEIT777 on November 23, 2021, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on November 23, 2021, 02:16:13 PM
https://twitter.com/IndyEIT777/status/1462993081867853824

I'm flattered this was worthy of a repost  :lol: