Still early but last year April we had our first glimpse of excitement with the chatter of the Beacons first non-conference game. Has anyone heard any rumblings for the 2022-2023 season?
What I remember hearing is that Valpo may play at Toledo part of a return H and H (I am thinking the season opener) and home at the ARC vs. Western Michigan (return game of a H/H).
Any word on a MTE?
Hoping to see Ball State back on the schedule. Those games were so much fun to watch and started to feel like a nice in-state rivalry!
Given that the conference will now have 12 teams, I suspect (but not heard officially) that there will be four additional conference games because of continuing the double round robin. At least, this is what I hope that is done.
Quote from: vu84v2 on May 15, 2022, 09:31:01 AM
Given that the conference will now have 12 teams, I suspect (but not heard officially) that there will be four additional conference games because of continuing the double round robin. At least, this is what I hope that is done.
Yes, like trading Belmont twice, Murray State twice and one more UIC for, at least hoping for, dropping Trinity Christian, East-West, and keeping two or three of Stanford, Charlotte, Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan, William & Mary & Prairie View and a tournament with teams like Tulane, Coastal Carolina & Jacksonville State.
I doubt we drop both non D1 maybe 1, I do hope both though.
I have heard rumblings of us playing down south, at a big time school with a new coach. But this is not confirmed.
No conference of champions opponent?
I love the idea of seeing plenty of MAC teams on the schedule. It's a comparable league in basketball strength to the MVC and therefore a good litmus test as we figure out how competitive we can be in league play this year. Plus the geography is good for low travel cost high interest games that might boost attendance somewhat. I don't know how many MAC school alumni are in the area but there's gotta be at least a few.
Quote from: usc4valpo on May 15, 2022, 09:14:02 PMNo conference of champions opponent?
Valpo will get killed playing a Big12 team.
Also this is the first I've heard of 22 MVC games all the reports I saw indicated 20 games. I'm not sure I'd advocate for 22 games unless it was the only way to keep all non D1 games confined to the exhibition portion of the schedule where they belong. Really I think 20 should be more than enough to accomplish that but what do I know?
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 16, 2022, 03:24:31 AM
Also this is the first I've heard of 22 MVC games all the reports I saw indicated 20 games. I'm not sure I'd advocate for 22 games unless it was the only way to keep all non D1 games confined to the exhibition portion of the schedule where they belong. Really I think 20 should be more than enough to accomplish that but what do I know?
If Valpo were to lose 2 conference games out of 22 assuming that every team would play each opponent in conference twice home and away how would you propose deciding which two opponents Valpo would only play once? Would it be fair if Valpo only had to play Missouri State once and Northern Iowa once? With Donovan Clay playing for MOST (531 miles) and Northern Iowa (342 miles) would that make sense? Or should we only play Murray State (411 miles) and Belmont (443 miles) once each?
I would like to see a more diverse schedule. A few power 5 games, same MAC, some MEAC, local Chicago teams, maybe a WAC team...
Please, bag the non D1 games.
Quote from: historyman on May 16, 2022, 03:33:01 AMQuote from: VUGrad1314 on May 16, 2022, 03:24:31 AMAlso this is the first I've heard of 22 MVC games all the reports I saw indicated 20 games. I'm not sure I'd advocate for 22 games unless it was the only way to keep all non D1 games confined to the exhibition portion of the schedule where they belong. Really I think 20 should be more than enough to accomplish that but what do I know?
If Valpo were to lose 2 conference games out of 22 assuming that every team would play each opponent in conference twice home and away how would you propose deciding which two opponents Valpo would only play once? Would it be fair if Valpo only had to play Missouri State once and Northern Iowa once? With Donovan Clay playing for MOST (531 miles) and Northern Iowa (342 miles) would that make sense? Or should we only play Murray State (411 miles) and Belmont (443 miles) once each?
I don't know how the conference will decide on the schedule ultimately I just know that less non conference opportunities is more than likely a hindrance if the league aspires to get multiple bids (not that I think that that's really possible this year though I suppose it could be). I also do not believe that the double round robin should be treated as this immutable sacrosanct thing that cannot be done away with. Many conferences at our level (A-10 Mountain West WCC to name a few) that are successful at getting at large bids do not have a double round robin. I doubt the decision will come down to travel but ensuring that the best most compelling potential matchups are preserved. Additionally, I am sure that consideration is given to protecting the best teams (based on the perceived strength of the roster) that have the best chance at receiving at large bids from too many resume dings. This is precisely what Gonzaga fought for when they ultimately decided to stay in the WCC instead of moving to the Mountain West. More teams can actually be a benefit because it can provide that insulation and create a slight boost to a team's overall metrics and resume. This was one reason why I was (and remain) a huge proponent of expansion if the right teams are available. The more good teams that are in the league the better the league is and the stronger the league is perceived by outside observers. It does not matter where those games are played or how far apart the schools are.
I am hearing rumors that Valpo is part of the Savannah Invitational MTE.
HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING???
Participants "may" include:
South Dakota State - Summit (30-5) NCAA
Again nothing confirmed!!!
Quote from: VALPO LI on June 09, 2022, 03:20:18 PM
I am hearing rumors that Valpo is part of the Savannah Invitational MTE.
HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING???
Participants "may" include:
South Dakota State - Summit (30-5) NCAA
Again nothing confirmed!!!
Per Jeff Goodman
Valpo, USA, So Dak St, Evansville, James Madison, Mercer, Robert Morris, Nicholas State, Fairfield, Towson
Savannah Invitational
November 25-27th
10 Mid Majors
Evansville - MVC (6-24)
Fairfield - MAAC (15-18)
James Madison - Sun Belt (15-14 CAA)
Mercer - Southern Conference (16-17)
Nicholls State University - Southland (21-12)
Robert Morris - Horizon (8-24)
South Alabama - Sun Belt (21-12)
South Dakota State - Summit (30-5)
Towson - CAA (25-9)
Valpo - MVC (14-18)
VALPO played here in 2017-18 season and shared the title with Loyola.
Bakari Evelyn was co-tournament MVP with 30 pts against UNCW.
This is not a good field if you just look at the teams and their performance last year but it is a good field for where Valpo is right now in its program. Valpo should do well in this field. Even though I don't see them winning it, they should be highly competitive. A spot in the semifinals or, if the bracket breaks right, even the finals is a distinct possibility.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on June 11, 2022, 03:53:23 PM
This is not a good field if you just look at the teams and their performance last year but it is a good field for where Valpo is right now in its program. Valpo should do well in this field. Even though I don't see them winning it, they should be highly competitive. A spot in the semifinals or, if the bracket breaks right, even the finals is a distinct possibility.
I would think South Dakota State would be highly favored to win this tournament unless of course they had more than half their scorers transfer.
Could it be?
Some scheduling buzz?
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/1540363150826115074?s=20&t=U_rMMidXhH1g3dDc55FRpw
Did not know that Stonehill was moving to D1, but lo and behold they are. One of five teams moving up starting in the 2022-2023 season, which also includes Lindenwood and Southern Indiana as replacements in the OVC for Belmont and Murray State.
Wouldn't mind seeing University of Southern Indiana on the schedule or would fans see this game similar to playing IUPUI and PFW?
Quote from: VALPO LI on June 24, 2022, 06:12:45 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing University of Southern Indiana on the schedule or would fans see this game similar to playing IUPUI and PFW?
Although PFW finished the Horizon League with a 15-6 conference record last season ;)
No problem with scheduling Southern Indiana or PFW...would prefer not scheduling Lindenwood.
Quote from: vu84v2 on June 25, 2022, 06:38:10 AM
No problem with scheduling Southern Indiana or PFW...would prefer not scheduling Lindenwood.
I'm sure SLU, SIUE, SIU-Carbondale, maybe Mizzou will schedule Lindenwood
Quote from: VALPO LI on June 24, 2022, 06:12:45 PMWouldn't mind seeing University of Southern Indiana on the schedule or would fans see this game similar to playing IUPUI and PFW?
Meh. At least USI is a D1 game. It doesn't strike me as a great scheduling get that moves the needle but it wouldn't be too bad I guess. PFW is interesting precisely because they were competitive in the HL this past year but IUPUI doesn't do a lot for me right now. Give me any of these in state D1s over any non D1 though.
Quote from: historyman on June 25, 2022, 12:17:47 PMQuote from: vu84v2 on June 25, 2022, 06:38:10 AMNo problem with scheduling Southern Indiana or PFW...would prefer not scheduling Lindenwood.
I'm sure SLU, SIUE, SIU-Carbondale, maybe Mizzou will schedule Lindenwood
SIUE will have to as a home and home since they are in the same conference SIU-C SLU and Mizzou might but probably only as a buy game (except maybe SIU-C which may not have the cache or finances to simply buy Lindenwood) but I don't know if any of these outside of SIUE is a given.
I'm hearing Valpo will open the season November 7th @ Toledo. This would be a return game of a Home/Home from last season where the Rockets (26-8) (17-3 MAC) came home with a 69-61 win at the ARC.
If this game holds this would be a good early challenge to see what the Beacons are all about for the 2022/2023 season.
Valpo headed to Mississippi December 10th!!!
https://twitter.com/OleMissMBB/status/1547657287770116102
Ole Miss (110 net) finished 13th in league play in the SEC last season with a 4-14 record 13-19 overall.
Was this the "Big Team down south" that was rumored? If so nice get. If we're as good as we hope we are we might even be able to win that one!
Was Prairie View kicked down the road for a year or two or is it now off the table?
Quote from: VALPO LI on July 14, 2022, 05:37:01 PM
Ole Miss (110 net) finished 13th in league play in the SEC last season with a 4-14 record 13-19 overall.
I refuse to get excited about Ole Miss until I'm shown some reason to think we can compete. :snore: BUT!!!!! Some early season wins might get me there. :thumbsup:
Have we played them since 'The Shot?' I am sure that their alumni will hate to see our name on the schedule
Quote from: valpotx on July 14, 2022, 11:32:19 PM
Have we played them since 'The Shot?' I am sure that their alumni will hate to see our name on the schedule
I think we should have a contest on guessing how many times they either show or mention "The Shot" during that game broadcast. My guess is 10+
Quote from: justducky on July 14, 2022, 06:20:54 PM
Was Prairie View kicked down the road for a year or two or is it now off the table?
Quote from: VALPO LI on July 14, 2022, 05:37:01 PM
Ole Miss (110 net) finished 13th in league play in the SEC last season with a 4-14 record 13-19 overall.
I refuse to get excited about Ole Miss until I'm shown some reason to think we can compete. :snore: BUT!!!!! Some early season wins might get me there. :thumbsup:
Interesting question about Prairie View A&M. I thought I heard they were a buy game for Valpo last season. The Panthers are scheduled to play @ Northwestern December 11th. Valpo is slated to be in Mississippi on the 10th. Maybe a trip to Northwest Indiana for PVA&M before or after the Wildcat game.
Let's all pray we can see the Panthers live!! :)
Stonehill College is not only moving to Division 1 this season, but Valpo's own Jason Karys has recently been promoted to a full-time Assistant Coach position. Karys also just coached Valpo's first TBT team that competed in Omaha last week.
Some Friday evening scheduling news:
Elon University will play @ Valpo December 18th as per Rocco Miller. The Phoenix finished 7th out of 10 in the Colonial Athletic Association last season.
https://twitter.com/RoccoMiller8/status/1553128903849365506
This potentially gives Beacon fans 3 home games this upcoming season. Stonehill, Elon and possibly Western Michigan.
Quote from: VALPO LI on July 29, 2022, 08:01:45 PMSome Friday evening scheduling news: Elon University will play @ Valpo December 18th as per Rocco Miller. The Phoenix finished 7th out of 10 in the Colonial Athletic Association last season. https://twitter.com/RoccoMiller8/status/1553128903849365506 This potentially gives Beacon fans 3 home games this upcoming season. Stonehill, Elon and possibly Western Michigan.
Home schedule is pretty meh so far but that's probably good for where we are as a program. Hopefully we can win most of these games and raise our expectations (and our scheduling) next year.
I don't know about anyone else, but I am ready for this season to kick off. Excited to see what this team can do!!! I think they
are going to surprise a lot of people.
"The New Guy"
Quote from: 1LoneBeacon on August 04, 2022, 09:18:47 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I am ready for this season to kick off. Excited to see what this team can do!!! I think they
are going to surprise a lot of people.
"The New Guy"
Appreciate your enthusiasm. But you probably haven't been around long enough to become jaded and have low expectations like most of us.
this will be the make or break year for Lottich, and I am sure he is aware of the this. Valpo needs to be successful this year, no lower than 4th in the Valley.
Quote from: Valpo89 on August 05, 2022, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: 1LoneBeacon on August 04, 2022, 09:18:47 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I am ready for this season to kick off. Excited to see what this team can do!!! I think they
are going to surprise a lot of people.
"The New Guy"
Appreciate your enthusiasm. But you probably haven't been around long enough to become jaded and have low expectations like most of us.
Oh come on 89! Three wins in a row and you'll be grabbing your yellow pad and trying to interview somebody!
No thanks, those days are LONG gone.
Quote from: Valpo89 on August 06, 2022, 05:40:14 PM
No thanks, those days are LONG gone.
(Gone) are the days when you wish your bed was already made. (No more) Manic Mondays. (Ain't) wishing it was Sunday. That's MY Fun Day. My I don't have to run day.written for the Bangles by Prince Rogers Nelson (one time known as the artist formerly known as "Prince")
Honestly, not really excited about the schedule. If was defeat Elon, will Musk award us with a team Tesla?
Need higher level teams on the schedule.
Does anybody know if Jerome Palm has arrived yet? I really think he could be a "big" (literally) game changer for us. He can block--probably not at the Vashil level, but Vashil had range to four feet while Jerome can step out to the 3.
https://twitter.com/TrollsMBball/status/1557928056504942593
The 11-19 Trinity Christian Trolls return back to the ARC December 6th, 2022 for a 7pm tip off.
First Non-D1 on the Beacon's schedule.
Interesting enough the Trolls are also playing @ two other Valley Schools, UIC Nov.7th and Indiana State Nov 27th.
I am told the home game against Stonehill will be during winter break on December 21.
Jerome Palm? As in "Jerry Palm"? :lol:
Quote from: VALPO LI on August 13, 2022, 03:09:38 PM
https://twitter.com/TrollsMBball/status/1557928056504942593
The 11-19 Trinity Christian Trolls return back to the ARC December 6th, 2022 for a 7pm tip off.
First Non-D1 on the Beacon's schedule.
Interesting enough the Trolls are also playing @ two other Valley Schools, UIC Nov.7th and Indiana State Nov 27th.
Uh, umm, I think "Beacons" beat "Trolls" in the team nickname playoffs. Just sayin'.
Too soon? I'll be quiet now.
Quote from: VALPO LI on August 13, 2022, 03:09:38 PM
[tweet]1557928056504942593[/tweet]
The 11-19 Trinity Christian Trolls return back to the ARC December 6th, 2022 for a 7pm tip off.
First Non-D1 on the Beacon's schedule.
Interesting enough the Trolls are also playing @ two other Valley Schools, UIC Nov.7th and Indiana State Nov 27th.
Troll Nation?
Just how big is Trinity Christian's influence over this country?
Will there ever be a "Beacon Nation?" ::)
Trinity Trolls.... I could get behind that name and mascot. They are even christian with the name trolls. Love to see Christians not afraid of their school name.
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University of the Incarnate Word will be coming to Valpo on November 19.
https://uiwcardinals.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2022-23
UIW is a private catholic university in San Antonio Texas that plays in the Southland Conference. The Cardinals finished last season with a 5-24 record. I do not think there is any history between Valpo and UIW except that at one point they both shared the same mascot.
November 19th is a Saturday!
Incarnate Word is terrible. That HAS to be a win.
Quote from: VALPO LI on August 22, 2022, 09:48:48 AM
UIW is a private catholic university in San Antonio Texas that plays in the Southland Conference. The Cardinals finished last season with a 5-24 record. I do not think there is any history between Valpo and UIW except that at one point they both shared the same mascot.
November 19th is a Saturday!
So they used the faceless Crusader guy. They are the Cardinals, did they change?
Carson Cunningham is their head coach, Chris Artis is an assistant plus they have a couple of Indiana kids.
Update they did drop the Crusaders in 2004. I couldn't find an image of their Crusader.
Trying to stay positive about things but man the last two game announcements have been worse than blah... A bad non-D1 team that we play EVERY YEAR for some reason and a terrible D1 team that we'd better beat... I wish we could get better schedules and actually compete for at large bids but those days are probably over...
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 22, 2022, 06:42:15 PM
Trying to stay positive about things but man the last two game announcements have been worse than blah... A bad non-D1 team that we play EVERY YEAR for some reason and a terrible D1 team that we'd better beat... I wish we could get better schedules and actually compete for at large bids but those days are probably over...
Waiting for the full schedule, but I am beginning to have the same feeling.
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 22, 2022, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 22, 2022, 06:42:15 PM
Trying to stay positive about things but man the last two game announcements have been worse than blah... A bad non-D1 team that we play EVERY YEAR for some reason and a terrible D1 team that we'd better beat... I wish we could get better schedules and actually compete for at large bids but those days are probably over...
Waiting for the full schedule, but I am beginning to have the same feeling.
Valpo unfortunately is not an at large team right now and therefore does not require an at large schedule. Northern Iowa on the other hand might be one and their schedule reflects it with games at Virginia, Richmond and home games against South Florida, Toledo, and St Bonaventure.
Quote from: VALPO LI on August 22, 2022, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 22, 2022, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 22, 2022, 06:42:15 PM
Trying to stay positive about things but man the last two game announcements have been worse than blah... A bad non-D1 team that we play EVERY YEAR for some reason and a terrible D1 team that we'd better beat... I wish we could get better schedules and actually compete for at large bids but those days are probably over...
Waiting for the full schedule, but I am beginning to have the same feeling.
Valpo unfortunately is not an at large team right now and therefore does not require an at large schedule. Northern Iowa on the other hand might be one and their schedule reflects it with games at Virginia, Richmond and home games against South Florida, Toledo, and St Bonaventure.
I hate to say it, but...Matt may be scheduling to save his job. This is most likely a go/no go for his continued employment. If I were in those shoes i would want all the wins i could get.
Quote from: vu72 on August 23, 2022, 07:57:51 AMQuote from: VALPO LI on August 22, 2022, 10:29:10 PMQuote from: vu84v2 on August 22, 2022, 09:24:57 PMQuote from: VUGrad1314 on August 22, 2022, 06:42:15 PMTrying to stay positive about things but man the last two game announcements have been worse than blah... A bad non-D1 team that we play EVERY YEAR for some reason and a terrible D1 team that we'd better beat... I wish we could get better schedules and actually compete for at large bids but those days are probably over...
Waiting for the full schedule, but I am beginning to have the same feeling.
Valpo unfortunately is not an at large team right now and therefore does not require an at large schedule. Northern Iowa on the other hand might be one and their schedule reflects it with games at Virginia, Richmond and home games against South Florida, Toledo, and St Bonaventure.
I hate to say it, but...Matt may be scheduling to save his job. This is most likely a go/no go for his continued employment. If I were in those shoes i would want all the wins i could get.
It will all be exposed, one way or another, once the conference season comes around anyway. With the make up of our team, I don't mind an easier non-con but do hope we have a few tests/challenges in there.
I sincerely hope our new AD is smart enough not to be swayed by beating up on bad competition in the non con. if Matt does something in conference play this year then that's a completely different discussion but nothing should happen if our conference results aren't up to par even if the overall record looks nice on paper.
Valpo to host Western Michigan at the ARC November 13th.
That leaves 1 more unknown game on the schedule along with who the Beacons play at the Savannah Invitational.
https://twitter.com/WMUMBB/status/1562457207895375874
Obvoiusly Western Michigan isn't afraid to play a very tough OOC schedule. We really know very little about our away games schedule.
Interesting that a team would announce its schedule with three "TBAs".
Quote from: vu72 on August 24, 2022, 12:30:24 PM
Obvoiusly Western Michigan isn't afraid to play a very tough OOC schedule. We really know very little about our away games schedule.
What we do know is that Valpo opens the season on the road @ Toledo November 7th and heads out to play Ole Miss December 10th.
https://utrockets.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2022-23
https://olemisssports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2022-23
What we do know is that Valpo will host 3 home games at the ARC.
Western Michigan.
Incarnate Word.
Trinity Christian.
https://wmubroncos.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2022-23
https://uiwcardinals.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2022-23
https://athletics.trnty.edu/sports/mbkb/2022-23/schedule
What we are hearing but not confirmed is that Valpo should host Elon University and Stone Hill College at the ARC.
*Valparaiso University has not officially announced any scheduling news yet.
Quote from: VALPO LI on August 24, 2022, 03:08:28 PM
What we are hearing but not confirmed is that Valpo should host Elon University and Stone Hill College at the ARC.
Elon on December 18 and Stonehill on December 21
Quote from: valpopal on August 24, 2022, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: VALPO LI on August 24, 2022, 03:08:28 PM
What we are hearing but not confirmed is that Valpo should host Elon University and Stone Hill College at the ARC.
Elon on December 18 and Stonehill on December 21
I didn't see it on their website just twitter.
https://twitter.com/StonehillBball/status/1560334368945717249
https://twitter.com/RoccoMiller8/status/1553128903849365506
It looks like the "highlights" of the home non-conference schedule are two teams (Elon and Western Michigan) that were 12 games or more below .500 last season. This will not generate much enthusiasm with the student body, alumni, and community. I'm realistic, but the program needs to do better than this. You could argue that Stone Hill - a first year program - has done a better job at scheduling home games than Valpo.
Valpo really has a ham and eager non conference schedule. With the new AD, if Valpo doesn't get out of this swamp of mediocrity this year, you'll see needed changes. This program is in a funk.
MVC moving to a 20 game conference schedule provides 2 more solid games at least. So with that, having a few easy games on the schedule is not the worst thing in the world. But would still like to see the final spot be something semi challenging, that would fall into the "Good" category for my very scientific rating of the schedule.
OOC:
Great: Ole Miss
Good: Toledo, Western Mich, Savannah Invitational
Poor: Stonehill, Elon, Incarnate Word
Awful: Trinity
Stonehill? D1? Had to google them. Everyone d1 now. So many teams have made the jump in the last 5 years
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 25, 2022, 12:33:11 PM
Stonehill? D1? Had to google them. Everyone d1 now. So many teams have made the jump in the last 5 years
Five new D1 teams this year: Stonehill, Lindenwood, Texas A&M-Commerce, Southern Indiana, Queens (NC).
Ole Miss may be SEC but are certainly not great.
Your metric on great and good is rather generous.
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 25, 2022, 05:41:52 PM
Ole Miss may be SEC but are certainly not great.
You metric on great and good is rather generous.
Yes, but we still have the over/under on how many times "The Shot" is mentioned, correct?
Hypothetical: if Butler were to offer a one time buy game at Hinkle, would/should Valpo accept?
Nope
Yes, we need better teams on the schedule.
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 25, 2022, 05:41:52 PMOle Miss may be SEC but are certainly not great. You metric on great and good is rather generous.
I was in a generous mood.
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 25, 2022, 12:33:11 PM
Stonehill? D1? Had to google them. Everyone d1 now. So many teams have made the jump in the last 5 years
Stonehill College is a well-regarded small, Catholic college here in the Greater Boston area. I would never associate it with big(ger) time collegiate sports, however.
I was unfamiliar with Incarnate Word College before this. I'm wondering if they're on the schedule because their head coach, Carson Cunningham, has a strong region connection (Gary Andrean player and coach; Gary Steelheads CBA player):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carson_Cunningham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carson_Cunningham)
Nothing against these schools as academic institutions, but I agree with others that opponents like this will not build VU's hoops street cred. If we beat Incarnate by 30, no one will consider that noteworthy. But if, heaven forbid, we should lose to a school like this, then I'll start having flashbacks to my student days of the late 70s/early 80s. 😳
Quote from: elephtheria47 on August 25, 2022, 06:56:45 PM
Hypothetical: if Butler were to offer a one time buy game at Hinkle, would/should Valpo accept?
No, would Valpo do this for DePaul, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Marquette, Creighton? Why do it for Butler?
Disagree. Get a chance to face top opponents, and when we are successful they will do a home and home. We are down right now to successfully request home and home matchups.
Quote from: historyman on August 26, 2022, 02:46:53 AMQuote from: elephtheria47 on August 25, 2022, 06:56:45 PMHypothetical: if Butler were to offer a one time buy game at Hinkle, would/should Valpo accept?
No, would Valpo do this for DePaul, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Marquette, Creighton? Why do it for Butler?
I would like it if Valpo did it for any for those schools you listed actually.
Be aware that there are Valpo alums across the US that would like to engage. Also, it can help promote the school if we do it right. I love to see more Valpo matches against DePaul and Northwestern and other bigger name schools.
I like the idea of a one time "buy game" with Butler (or Marquette, Xavier, Georgetown) because it creates the opportunity for alumni events in the associated cities for the games in which alumni are more likely to be enthused. Previous events at schools like SIU-E are ridiculous because the perceived quality of the opponent is very poor (plus, in the case of SIU-E, the school is not in the city or major areas where alumni might live). Take for instance, Milwaukee. If you schedule alumni events around a game with UWM, no one cares because UWM is not considered an option for a strong sporting event. But it is a different story with Marquette.
DePaul is a different case because there will be a conference game in Chicago. Creighton would depend on the number of Valpo alums in and near Omaha (by the way, Creighton should be an excellent team this year).
Valpo needs better facilities and probably a good payout also if we want to demand home and home matchups.
Excerpt Copy/Paste from JMU scheduling article ...
Scheduling guru Rocco Miller also reported the Savannah event will feature a six-team field and a four-team field with teams in both brackets guaranteed three games from Nov. 25-27.
I didn't remember seeing the dates for the Savannah Invitational until now.
The driving force behind getting good teams to play you is winning!!! The ARC could be renovated, the parking can get better and the Crusaders can be Pups it won't matter. Win and the opportunities will come. Just ask Belmont and Murray State fans.
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 26, 2022, 10:24:03 AM(plus, in the case of SIU-E, the school is not in the city or major areas where alumni might live).
I think you might be mistaken where Edwardsville, IL is located. It's definitely the metro east section of St Louis and some Valpo alumni from St Louis have no objection to a game there although Saint Louis U would be the better opponent to get on the schedule.
And I could see Lindenwood in St Charles, MO (just across the Missouri River from St Louis County in St Charles County) could also find their way on the schedule.
Lindenwood University to Southern Illinois University Edwardsville - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lindenwood+University,+209+S+Kingshighway+St,+St+Charles,+MO+63301/Saint+Louis+University,+North+Grand+Boulevard,+St.+Louis,+MO/Southern+Illinois+University+Edwardsville,+Hairpin+Drive,+Edwardsville,+IL/@38.719038,-90.3894482,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x87df2f19e20b6def:0x46b335b39c1db1b8!2m2!1d-90.5033325!2d38.786763!1m5!1m1!1s0x87d8b4a352e7a467:0x59f657a5d42e4d25!2m2!1d-90.2336408!2d38.6348237!1m5!1m1!1s0x8875f8759c8a6365:0x7b43439fa62e2836!2m2!1d-89.9996714!2d38.7951375!3e2)
Quote from: historyman on August 26, 2022, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 26, 2022, 10:24:03 AM(plus, in the case of SIU-E, the school is not in the city or major areas where alumni might live).
I think you might be mistaken where Edwardsville, IL is located. It's definitely the metro east section of St Louis and some Valpo alumni from St Louis have no objection to a game there although Saint Louis U would be the better opponent to get on the schedule.
And I could see Lindenwood in St Charles, MO (just across the Missouri River from St Louis County in St Charles County) could also find their way on the schedule.
Lindenwood University to Southern Illinois University Edwardsville - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lindenwood+University,+209+S+Kingshighway+St,+St+Charles,+MO+63301/Saint+Louis+University,+North+Grand+Boulevard,+St.+Louis,+MO/Southern+Illinois+University+Edwardsville,+Hairpin+Drive,+Edwardsville,+IL/@38.719038,-90.3894482,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x87df2f19e20b6def:0x46b335b39c1db1b8!2m2!1d-90.5033325!2d38.786763!1m5!1m1!1s0x87d8b4a352e7a467:0x59f657a5d42e4d25!2m2!1d-90.2336408!2d38.6348237!1m5!1m1!1s0x8875f8759c8a6365:0x7b43439fa62e2836!2m2!1d-89.9996714!2d38.7951375!3e2)
OK, perhaps my knowledge of the location of St. Louis population centers might be off - but very few Valpo alums are going to go out to see Valpo play at either SIU-E or Lindenwood. You need quality opponents....and SLU is far and away the best option. After that, Valpo is better spending money on alumni events elsewhere.
This the worst Home OOC schedule I can remember. :(
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2022-23/21450/valpo-basketball-reveals-nonconference-schedule/
@ Chicago State....ouch I didn't see that coming.
I would hope Valpo is getting paid to play this game.
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1565339662712856576
Disappointing schedule.
2 out of the 8 teams on this schedule had a winning record last season.
Toledo 25-8 (86 NET)
Western Michigan 6-22 (329 NET)
Chicago State 7-25 (340 NET)
Incarnate Word 5-24 (350 NET)
Trinity Christian 11-19 Non-D1
Ole Miss 13-19 (110 NET)
Elon 8-22 (NET 253)
Stonehill 15-12 (New to D-1)
That non conference schedule is unacceptable. It's an indictment on the state of our program. Has Lottich developed any relationships with other coaches during his tenure here?
The day we joined the MVC should have been the day we told CSU we're never going to their building anymore.
The chicago state game is really perplexing other then it's physically very close. It's got to be a H&H but was there really no other school that could fill that slot. It's a guaranteed win but against a consistent bottom ten team in the country I guess the silver lining may be it's at least D1? Couldn't find a horizon or summit league team...
This is an awful schedule...awful! Virtually no way to generate any excitement in the program until the MVC schedule.
On the surface, this non-conference schedule merely seems an attempt to inflate the "W" column before MVC play begins. There certainly doesn't appear much for fan excitement in the six home dates, especially for students since one of the games is an exhibition, another is during Thanksgiving break, and two others occur after fall semester lets out. So the only two games that count with students on campus are W. Michigan (a Sunday) and Trinity Christian (a Tuesday night against an NAIA team during the week final papers are usually due). In other words, only 1 D-1 game for students. I doubt that is enough to build strong momentum of support.
This is not going to prepare us for MVC conference play. Maybe Lottich could have scheduled games with some of the high schools in the Region
Question for those of you more steeped in scheduling matters: Is this non-conf slate due to looking for easy wins, inability to get better schools to schedule VU, or both?
In any event, it really does remind me of what VU's MBB schedule looked like when I matriculated in the late 70s....
Quote from: David81 on September 01, 2022, 01:28:58 PM
Question for those of you more steeped in scheduling matters: Is this non-conf slate due to looking for easy wins, inability to get better schools to schedule VU, or both?
In any event, it really does remind me of what VU's MBB schedule looked like when I matriculated in the late 70s....
In Matt's defense (only a little defense), We need to remember that three of the five starters are brand new to Valpo and Matt's system. I'm presuming here that Palm, Green and Edwards will get the start or at a minimum play major roles. We also add two very good teams to the Valley while losing one. Still a very crappy home schedule prior to conference.
That's no real defense though cause this is the most players he's brought back year over year I believe
Quote from: David81 on September 01, 2022, 01:28:58 PM
Question for those of you more steeped in scheduling matters: Is this non-conf slate due to looking for easy wins, inability to get better schools to schedule VU, or both?
In any event, it really does remind me of what VU's MBB schedule looked like when I matriculated in the late 70s....
Either of these reasons is possible, but I will argue that there may be another reason. You'll note that the only road games requiring flights are games in which travel costs are directly or indirectly covered. My guess is that this is part of a larger emphasis to minimize spending. You pay a little and you get Western Michigan, Elon and Incarnate Word. You pay more and you may get average to above average teams within mid-tier conferences. I also wonder if the intention to keep costs down has a greater affect on scheduling because Valpo left two of midwestern mid-major conferences...hence MAC teams are willing to schedule, but Summit and Horizon teams are not.
Regardless of the challenges, a program is responsible to develop a schedule that interests and excites its fan base (within reason, of course - I do not expect a bunch of Big Ten or Big East teams playing in the ARC). The program, and thus those who run the program, have failed this year after having poor schedules for the last several years.
Quote from: vu72 on September 01, 2022, 09:19:29 AM
This the worst Home OOC schedule I can remember. :(
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2022-23/21450/valpo-basketball-reveals-nonconference-schedule/
Agreed. Hard to see a home game that will draw many fans as a must see game. Only possible Nov/Dec saving grace for fans would be a MVC conference game. I'm assuming with the 20 game conference schedule there will be 2 conference games in Dec? Perhaps one home, one away? I'd sure like to think we're better than this type of schedule. I've drank too much kool-aid over time. Wow.
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Whatever. I'm pretty numb at this point. This is probably the worst overall schedule (and the worst home schedule) I've seen possibly ever in all my time as a fan. I'm at the point where I believe that Valpo's home schedules are just always going to be bad and that's just something we're going to have to accept especially if we aren't winning. Maybe when (if) we prove we can be a strong program at the MVC level again that will change but not before. Who wants to go on the road to play a likely Q3\Q4 team except another likely Q3\Q4 team? That said I still believe as much as I hate to admit it that this is probably the right schedule for where the program is right now even though I wish it were at least a little bit stronger. This program needs some confidence and a spark and maybe this (hopefully) easy schedule will provide that confidence with the spark coming in MVC play where that confidence translates into some wins to get things rolling towards the goal of finally establishing ourselves in the MVC. That's about as optimistic as I can be at this point. Please show me something Beacons. Give me a reason to be hopeful again. Let's win some games build momentum and strive for a much better schedule next year. I don't want to become the new Marty Simmons-era Evansville of the conference that gorged itself on non con cupcakes to have a nice record with no substance and then got hammered in conference because they weren't prepared. Come to think of it I think that team ran the exact same offense as Lottich does... That is not a comforting thought...
No power 5 teams will ever come to the arc, unless it's a favor (Robbie Hummel) etc.. New Mexico (Alford) and ETSU came because both coaches had ties to Indiana or in this case Murray's father Gene Bartow. Non sure how we got a home and home with St. Louis. A fair comparison is....our non con schedule to Murray State, Belmont over the years. Northern Iowa is able to get some top A10 teams, but what other MVC schools have good non con home schedules yearly. Did Loyola have great non con home schedule. Unless we pay and or become a power again, scheduling will remain a challenge. Now that the power 5 conferences have more teams, they have less available slots for non con. Ole Miss game is prolly a nice $40 - $60,000 check. Ofcourse he's trying to load up on wins.
Ole miss 40-60... it's 70+ easy probably 80-85
There's a bunch of issues related to the schedule which have been touched on.
I think much of it comes down to the competitiveness of the program at the moment which can be frustrating but won't get solved until after the season at the earliest. Either it turns around at least somewhat this season or they'll be a rebuilding begun next year. I'm confident in the current AD to take care of it. He seems to get it. The program just isn't attractive right now.
For all the bleating about the schedule, and I agree it isn't good, who would you like them to play and, of those teams, which would logically commit to coming to the ARC?
The peers for Valpo are in the MVC. What OOC home schedules to those teams have?
The team isnt going anywhere, so why not at least play some buy games (and put that money back into the program/upgrade the ARC) and let the players have some of those cool experiences/arenas/atmospheres. Cant wait to see where our OOC SOS will end up.
We're recruiting to a bad coach, in an old outdated gym, and against a s**tty schedule.
I have this feeling Valpo will go through the motions this year to bag the coach and clean up from the ground up. No AD, new president, we need a new attitude.
I found a little information on the Savannah tourney, which is being called the inaugural "Hostilo Community Classic". The games will be played at the brand new Enmarket Arena.
The only team showing opponents is Mercer and their schedule shows games against Fairfield, Robert Morris and Towson. If you assume those 4 teams will play round robin, I'm guessing (100% speculation) that Valpo will match up against South Alabama, S Dakota St and James Madison (avoiding Evansville).
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 07, 2022, 02:41:20 PM
I found a little information on the Savannah tourney, which is being called the inaugural "Hostilo Community Classic". The games will be played at the brand new Enmarket Arena.
The only team showing opponents is Mercer and their schedule shows games against Fairfield, Robert Morris and Towson. If you assume those 4 teams will play round robin, I'm guessing (100% speculation) that Valpo will match up against South Alabama, S Dakota St and James Madison (avoiding Evansville).
Thank for the update. I plan on attending.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 04, 2022, 10:48:34 AM
I have this feeling Valpo will go through the motions this year to bag the coach and clean up from the ground up. No AD, new president, we need a new attitude.
I assume that you meant new AD.
I honestly think that the poor schedule is partially related to budget constraints - minimize travel, etc.
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 07, 2022, 02:41:20 PM
I found a little information on the Savannah tourney, which is being called the inaugural "Hostilo Community Classic". The games will be played at the brand new Enmarket Arena.
The only team showing opponents is Mercer and their schedule shows games against Fairfield, Robert Morris and Towson. If you assume those 4 teams will play round robin, I'm guessing (100% speculation) that Valpo will match up against South Alabama, S Dakota St and James Madison (avoiding Evansville).
Good find.
I saw that Towson has Mercer and South Alabama on their schedule for this MTE. Nicholls State was originally listed to play as well in the tournament but now they are no longer.
I would really hope to see Valpo get matched up with games against South Dakota State and JMU over Robert Morris and Fairfield. Fingers crossed.
Do the Beacons need to be in Div 2 ???? ??? ??? ???
Quote from: Valpo Joe on September 07, 2022, 08:21:16 PM
Do the Beacons need to be in Div 2 ???? ??? ??? ???
No!!!
Blue ribbon has us picked 8th!
https://mvc-sports.com/news/2022/9/7/mens-basketball-blue-ribbon-yearbook-tabs-drake-as-mvc-mbb-favorite.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2B3UuEzodbBYSWvuyzQxOMb-mEfEiBooJFD_hf0tv5es8WCgPamhSpLbo
Quote from: vu72 on September 08, 2022, 08:21:53 AM
Blue ribbon has us picked 8th!
https://mvc-sports.com/news/2022/9/7/mens-basketball-blue-ribbon-yearbook-tabs-drake-as-mvc-mbb-favorite.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2B3UuEzodbBYSWvuyzQxOMb-mEfEiBooJFD_hf0tv5es8WCgPamhSpLbo
I had to research why Murray State would be predicted at 10 after going 31-3 last season. Looks like they had 8 guys transfer, including 3 who went to LSU.
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 08, 2022, 11:09:55 AMQuote from: vu72 on September 08, 2022, 08:21:53 AMBlue ribbon has us picked 8th! https://mvc-sports.com/news/2022/9/7/mens-basketball-blue-ribbon-yearbook-tabs-drake-as-mvc-mbb-favorite.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2B3UuEzodbBYSWvuyzQxOMb-mEfEiBooJFD_hf0tv5es8WCgPamhSpLbo
I had to research why Murray State would be predicted at 10 after going 31-3 last season. Looks like they had 8 guys transfer, including 3 who went to LSU.
Poke through the threads as this was discussed months ago.
Savannah is a nice tourney. And Ole Miss is a chance to prove something. Western Michigan and Toledo are logcial MAC neighbors. That's enough to test ourselves.
Apart from that I agree that it looks like a money-saver schedule on travel and maybe stocks a few early Ws.
On student fan draws, my cynical view has been that students aren't coming to the Nov.-Dec. games anyway unless it is Butler or a big name school. And those schools won't come to the ARC. It's more the season ticket fan base we turn off. Save the money this year and hope we get some nice draws on weekend dates vs MVC teams. I wonder what our game ticket revenue for MVC vs non-conference? Does anyone know?
Just to throw this out there... I see the Stonehill (Easton Massachusetts) game on Wednesday 12/21..."Community Game"...Jason Karys is their assistant coach. Another example of Valpo helping the new kids on the block. Stonehill is playing at the Peoria Civic Center on Monday the 19th.
Wouldn't it be great to hear the annual Union Street Hoops episode with Luke Gore talking about the 2022 Valpo Basketball schedule with Paul Oren? It's been 260 days of silence :-X
I NEED MY UNION STREET HOOPS!!!!!
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1570429130692337664
3 Saturday games back to back at the ARC.
Starting
1/28 vs Evansville
2/4 vs Drake
2/11 vs Illinois State.
Only playing Missouri State and Southern Illinois once
Only 2 major road trips for the month of February
2/1 @ MoSt. and 2/26 @Murray State the other 2 are down state to Terre Haute and a short ride to Chicago.
I feel we drew well in Valley Play.
I also feel we drew pretty well for league play and weekend games. And how exciting it is to see Belmont and Murray State on there 4 times. Lets gooo
Quote from: elephtheria47 on September 15, 2022, 01:08:12 PM
I also feel we drew pretty well for league play and weekend games. And how exciting it is to see Belmont and Murray State on there 4 times. Lets gooo
I feel that same - good draw for MVC play. I hope that the university markets the Murray State game heavily (especially to students). Need to get them interested and excited earlier than mid-January.
Quote from: vu72 on September 08, 2022, 08:21:53 AMBlue ribbon has us picked 8th! https://mvc-sports.com/news/2022/9/7/mens-basketball-blue-ribbon-yearbook-tabs-drake-as-mvc-mbb-favorite.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2B3UuEzodbBYSWvuyzQxOMb-mEfEiBooJFD_hf0tv5es8WCgPamhSpLbo
Nice to see they selected Krikke as First Team All MVC as well. We Gon' need big production from the Canadian if we expect to finish in the top half of the league. Has it been discussed what the MVC Tourney format will look like?
Yeah they released the format a little while back, I believe it's first 4 have byes last eight play each other.
Starting the season against Belmont & Murray State. I like it.
I know a lot of MVC Fans think Murray is going to come to the MVC and be an elite program and I disagree (new coach and cast of players). It will take time.
Quote from: VU2014 on September 18, 2022, 03:58:23 PMI know a lot of MVC Fans think Murray is going to come to the MVC and be an elite program and I disagree (new coach and cast of players). It will take time.
I'm not expecting great things from Murray this year, but with Steve Prohm back in the saddle Id expect them to be a strong top half pick for 23-24 and top third or better most years thereafter. I have difficulty imagining Prohm jumping ship from Murray a second time so they will likely have a solid coach and recruiter who will retain players better than most schools playing at our mid-major level.
Prohm is now 0-3 vs Valpo but by the end of the 24-25 season he may pull even or ahead. ;) [I just said that to start some fireworks! :)]
I've heard some say that their transfers look good but that's mostly from Murray fans so take it with a grain of salt. Everyone's optimistic before the season begins. I'm not sure what to believe. I think the league is going to be really wide open and hard to predict. I do think Drake is probably the favorite to win the league but there will be a lot of solid teams. Not sure about multibid prospects but nonconference will determine that. Also never thought that I would see any Valpo fan (seemingly) excited about an 8th place league finish but I guess that's where we are now. Hopefully we'll be better than that.
Some good scheduling news. In the Savannah Invitational/Hostilo Hoops Community Classic Valpo will play:
James Madison University Friday 11/25.
South Dakota State Saturday Saturday 11/26.
The Dukes from JMU finished the season 15-14 in the CAA and this year will start conference play in the Sun Belt.
South Dakota State finished the season 35-5 with going a perfect 18-0 in conference play.
https://enmarketarena.com/hhcclassic/
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 21, 2022, 12:11:37 PM
Some good scheduling news. In the Savannah Invitational/Hostilo Hoops Community Classic Valpo will play:
James Madison University Friday 11/25.
South Dakota State Saturday Saturday 11/26.
The Dukes from JMU finished the season 15-14 in the CAA and this year will start conference play in the Sun Belt.
South Dakota State finished the season 35-5 with going a perfect 18-0 in conference play.
https://enmarketarena.com/hhcclassic/
South Dakota State is a very good team to have on the schedule.
MVC Media day interviews with Valpo
https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/1572657246164881409
Quote from: vu84v2 on September 21, 2022, 02:10:13 PMQuote from: VALPO LI on September 21, 2022, 12:11:37 PMSome good scheduling news. In the Savannah Invitational/Hostilo Hoops Community Classic Valpo will play: James Madison University Friday 11/25. South Dakota State Saturday Saturday 11/26. The Dukes from JMU finished the season 15-14 in the CAA and this year will start conference play in the Sun Belt. South Dakota State finished the season 35-5 with going a perfect 18-0 in conference play. https://enmarketarena.com/hhcclassic/
South Dakota State is a very good team to have on the schedule.
I still hope that one day that will become a conference game. South Dakota State belongs in the MVC.
SDSU just became the highlight on the schedule. Fantastic program. Love watching them play.
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 21, 2022, 12:11:37 PM
Some good scheduling news. In the Savannah Invitational/Hostilo Hoops Community Classic Valpo will play:
James Madison University Friday 11/25.
South Dakota State Saturday Saturday 11/26.
The Dukes from JMU finished the season 15-14 in the CAA and this year will start conference play in the Sun Belt.
South Dakota State finished the season 35-5 with going a perfect 18-0 in conference play.
https://enmarketarena.com/hhcclassic/
Interesting side note:
There are only 9 teams listed for this MTE.
Nicholls State is playing in another MTE. This leaves no scheduled opponents for Fairfield on Friday, JMU on Saturday and Valpo on Sunday.
Who is Valpo playing on Sunday???
Is there a mystery team joining this MTE?
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 09, 2022, 02:46:07 PM
Wouldn't it be great to hear the annual Union Street Hoops episode with Luke Gore talking about the 2022 Valpo Basketball schedule with Paul Oren? It's been 260 days of silence :-X
I NEED MY UNION STREET HOOPS!!!!!
Asked and answered!!!!
Thank you.
A great episode of "The Victory Bell: The Podcast" diving into the non conference schedule. There is definitely a common word I hear a lot from Luke Gore and that is the "budget". Explains why some games are on the schedule. -
I guess most of us figured that the budget was driving the short road trips. I bet they looked for more guarantee games to add to the Ole Miss one.
So financial realities dictate that it's going to be awhile (if ever) before we're a competitive MVC program. That doesn't inspire optimism.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on September 27, 2022, 08:06:00 PM
So financial realities dictate that it's going to be awhile (if ever) before we're a competitive MVC program. That doesn't inspire optimism.
I would not want to be the person given the responsibility to market the non-conference games.
As the saying goes, it takes money to make money.
I got the sense that we're having trouble scheduling teams because of the NET rankings. We're in a no-man's land because good programs won't schedule us because we're not a guaranteed loss but we're also no longer a "name" draw. Kind of the worst of both worlds.
Now, it would be nice have additional travel dollars so we could schedule games around the country. I'll be interested in seeing if we can get a second game for next years Elon road trip. I'd love to see them try and play Virginia, Richmond, VCU, or Virginia Tech.
Quote from: mj on September 28, 2022, 10:37:06 AMI got the sense that we're having trouble scheduling teams because of the NET rankings. We're in a no-man's land because good programs won't schedule us because we're not a guaranteed loss but we're also no longer a "name" draw. Kind of the worst of both worlds.
Talked at homecoming with a person who has first hand knowledge of the scheduling process. What Gore says in the interview about the constraints regarding the timing and reduced number of games is very true.
Chasing fewer games that don't hurt the power 5 teams in the out of conference schedule is making things much more difficult than it already was, in some cases literally telling us we are F#{@king crazy. Budget plays a part in the equation, but not as big as what it is being made out to be. We are asking for games but it has to be the right time and place. mj is right in saying we're in a no-mans land right now.
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 27, 2022, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 09, 2022, 02:46:07 PM
Wouldn't it be great to hear the annual Union Street Hoops episode with Luke Gore talking about the 2022 Valpo Basketball schedule with Paul Oren? It's been 260 days of silence :-X
I NEED MY UNION STREET HOOPS!!!!!
Asked and answered!!!!
Thank you.
A great episode of "The Victory Bell: The Podcast" diving into the non conference schedule. There is definitely a common word I hear a lot from Luke Gore and that is the "budget". Explains why some games are on the schedule. -
Did he mention who would be Valpo's 3rd opponent in the Savannah tourney or is that still TBD?
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 29, 2022, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 27, 2022, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 09, 2022, 02:46:07 PM
Wouldn't it be great to hear the annual Union Street Hoops episode with Luke Gore talking about the 2022 Valpo Basketball schedule with Paul Oren? It's been 260 days of silence :-X
I NEED MY UNION STREET HOOPS!!!!!
Asked and answered!!!!
Thank you.
A great episode of "The Victory Bell: The Podcast" diving into the non conference schedule. There is definitely a common word I hear a lot from Luke Gore and that is the "budget". Explains why some games are on the schedule. -
Did he mention who would be Valpo's 3rd opponent in the Savannah tourney or is that still TBD?
Still looks to be TBD!
https://twitter.com/RoccoMiller8/status/1575546197976023041
It would not surprise me if Valpo gets paired with a Non-D1 in Savannah.
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Looks like they secured a quality game before Savannah:
https://twitter.com/RoccoMiller8/status/1577371935578591233
Thanks for the update, jtm. Valpo website is now updated to reflect the Samford game and only two games in Savannah.
Great get Valpo! At Samford with a return home game next year at the ARC.
JMU was not so lucky. They drew a non D-1 in the Savannah Invitational. That's why I was thinking Valpo would as well. Pleasantly surprised by this news. :thumbsup:
https://www.coastalgeorgiasports.com/SIDHelp/m/a%7C3532.php
Well it's a D1 school from a good conference and a solid measuring stick game for where we are right now as a program. It doesn't wow me but I'm more than okay with this especially considering the alternative was a non D1. The MVC's only one non D1 allowed mandate may have saved us here as I don't think the Sun Belt (which doesn't emphasize hoops to the degree that the MVC does) has such a mandate.
With crowds down and travel expenses up about the only way you can justify a Samford home and home is by this type of multi-game scheduling. Sounds like solid games Wed, Friday, and Saturday sandwiching restaurant turkeys and pumpkin pies on Thursday. :'(
Samford is a good get....22-11 last year and won two games on the road against Power 6 opponents. Even better to get a home and home.
Apologies if I missed it, but I assume Valpo will have a "secret scrimmage" in addition to their one exhibition game? Any information on who the opponent might be?
Quote from: vu84v2 on October 05, 2022, 09:00:42 AMSamford is a good get....22-11 last year and won two games on the road against Power 6 opponents. Even better to get a home and home.
Samford looks good, but they could try harder.