I found this in-depth article about Bobby, written after he had scored a 1000 points in high school. It really speaks to his work ethic and dedication to the sport. It also has some great comments from his Mom, who ia a former basketball star at Vanderbilt. In a Times article following his transfer he talked about wanting to play the 4 at Valpo. I think he is a great find who along with Dority will add a whole new dimension to the team.
http://davidgmiller.typepad.com/lovelandmagazine/2008/04/loveland-ohio-1.html (http://davidgmiller.typepad.com/lovelandmagazine/2008/04/loveland-ohio-1.html)
Thanks for digging that up. Great story. With Bobby, Kevin and Rowdy on the floor at one time, we will be very hard to out rebound!
He played post most of his time at Indiana, so it's likely that he'll also share time in the post with Kevin. This also may give him better matchups defensively.
http://indiana.247sports.com/Article/What-Bobby-Capobiancos-transfer-means-for-him-Indiana-26255 (http://indiana.247sports.com/Article/What-Bobby-Capobiancos-transfer-means-for-him-Indiana-26255)
"Is everyone in this --- damned house named Bobby Capobianco??"
(Inside joke for any Made fans out there.)
I've heard nothing but great things about Capo's work ethic during his redshirt year. Pretty easy to assume that the departure of Edwards and Vucic had something to do with their understanding that Capobianco would be taking most of their minutes.
Glad to hear that report Eddie, because I haven't heard anything good from his time at IU. I'm hoping a new location and a fresh start has positives results!
Quote from: sectionee on April 01, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Glad to hear that report Eddie, because I haven't heard anything good from his time at IU. I'm hoping a new location and a fresh start has positives results!
Really? Every IU fan I know seems to love the guy. Several plan to drive over to a few VU games next year just to see him play.
This is part of an interview from an Indiana basketball site after he announced the transfer to Valpo. I noticed a few things of interest which I've highlited:
"It was the best academic fit and the best basketball fit," Capobianco said. "By the time I took my visit, it was obvious that this was the right place."
Capobianco also said he thought he would fit well in Valparaiso coach Bryce Drew's offensive vision. In Indiana's offense, Capobianco was used almost exclusively as a screener and rarely even got the ball in the post. In high school, he was actually known for being able to shoot from beyond the arc, and said Drew plans to use him in that fashion.
"Obviously, I don't know the entire offense right now," Capobianco said. "But just from speaking to Coach Drew, I think after my redshirt year, he's going to try to find a way to use all my skills. I think he knows that even though I have the size to play in the post, I can also do some things on the perimeter. He can use me to dribble drive, he can use my shot. He understands that I have some flexibility and he can work with that."
OK, so what's my point? Here it is: Bobby also looked at Evansville among other schools yet chose Valpo. We have been told about Evansville's great facilities and they play in the Valley, which is perceived to be a step up from the Horizon. No mention of conference or facilities. What he mentioned was academic fit and most importantly Coach Drew's vision of how he would be used and Valpo's style of play. Just sayin...
Quote from: vu72 on April 04, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
OK, so what's my point? Here it is: Bobby also looked at Evansville among other schools yet chose Valpo. We have been told about Evansville's great facilities and they play in the Valley, which is perceived to be a step up from the Horizon. No mention of conference or facilities. What he mentioned was academic fit and most importantly Coach Drew's vision of how he would be used and Valpo's style of play. Just sayin...
It probably didn't hurt that Capobianco dates Margo Andrews, an IU student who lives in Valparaiso. Just sayin...
Quote from: vu72 on April 04, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
This is part of an interview from an Indiana basketball site after he announced the transfer to Valpo. I noticed a few things of interest which I've highlited:
"It was the best academic fit and the best basketball fit," Capobianco said. "By the time I took my visit, it was obvious that this was the right place."
Capobianco also said he thought he would fit well in Valparaiso coach Bryce Drew's offensive vision. In Indiana's offense, Capobianco was used almost exclusively as a screener and rarely even got the ball in the post. In high school, he was actually known for being able to shoot from beyond the arc, and said Drew plans to use him in that fashion.
"Obviously, I don't know the entire offense right now," Capobianco said. "But just from speaking to Coach Drew, I think after my redshirt year, he's going to try to find a way to use all my skills. I think he knows that even though I have the size to play in the post, I can also do some things on the perimeter. He can use me to dribble drive, he can use my shot. He understands that I have some flexibility and he can work with that."
I do not know much of Copobianco's game and I have never seen him play, but the way he describes himself, his game sounds a lot like Richie Edwards. For those in the know, is this a right assumption?
I think he will be better than Richie and play better defensively.
Richie played mostly at the "5". Bobby will play a lot more minutes at the "4". He has better foot speed than Richie and thus will be able to guard more on the perimeter. Bobby brings a toughness to the table, while Richie was more a finesse player. Richie was the type of player that could score 15 and his guy would also get 15. Bobby may not put up those big scoring numbers, but he'll cause fits for the man he is guarding. Bobby will also big a bigger factor on the glass.
Nice report chef. So we get an upgrade in size, footspeed, toughness, rebounding, and defense. Sounds like a power forward!
Any offensive skills?
lowposter
Even if his offensive skills are below what Richie did, I will be happy with a guy who plays better defense.
Bobby can shoot it. Don't expect him to be a 40% three-point shooter, but he can make the open perimeter shot. I'm sure you'll see some of the pick and pop game we saw a lot with Cory Johnson. I think the reason Richie and Kevin were not on the court much at the same time was the concern that neither were a good fit to guard the athletic "4" men that you see most nights in the Horizon League. I don't think that will be the same case with Bobby and Kevin.
Quote from: chef on April 07, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Bobby can shoot it. Don't expect him to be a 40% three-point shooter, but he can make the open perimeter shot. I'm sure you'll see some of the pick and pop game we saw a lot with Cory Johnson. I think the reason Richie and Kevin were not on the court much at the same time was the concern that neither were a good fit to guard the athletic "4" men that you see most nights in the Horizon League. I don't think that will be the same case with Bobby and Kevin.
Chef - I'm wondering about backup at the 5 (assuming Bobby were to play most of his minutes at the 4). Do you know anything about Fernandez's readiness to step in and play some meaningful minutes?
Kevin averaged nearly 24 minutes a game last year. I could see Vashil playing about 10 minutes a game, with Bobby playing the "5" in a few minute stretches as well. Vashil is an extremely hard working athlete with a huge upside. On the defensive end, he is ready right now to be a big factor. The belief is with his athleticism and work ethic he'll become an effective offensive player in a short matter of time. After Kevin graduates, the hope is Vashil will be ready to be a very good center in our league.
Here a short video of Bobby I posted in another "Bobby Capobianco" thread some time ago. It was a few years ago so presume he is bigger, stronger and a better shot now. I see an athletic big who can move well around the hoop.
http://www.courier-journal.com/VideoNetwork/34458206001/Recruiting-Bobby-Capobianco (http://www.courier-journal.com/VideoNetwork/34458206001/Recruiting-Bobby-Capobianco)
I have heard from a very reliable source that Vashil is ready to play as chef suggests, and that he will add a shot blocking presence we haven't had since Raitis or Mohamad Kone. Here is another question I posed: "Will Ryan be playing at the 3 this year?"
The answer is a little surprising. It was that whether or not Ryan can play the 3 offensively in not an issue. He will be a matchup problem for a typical 3 in our league who is more like 6'4", but...the bigger question is, can he guard the 3? The same matchup problems apply here. It remains to be seen if he can gain the quickness to be a 3 full time. I'd love to have Bobby, Kevin and Ryan on the floor at one time together with another sharp shooter like Will and then together with our new scoring point. How do you doublr Ryan then? We will have lots of options.
Here's my guess. Ryan averages 34 mpg next season. He plays the "4" 25 minutes and the "3" 9 minutes.
More realistic scenario. Ryan averages 34 minutes a game, all at the 4. Bobby and Vashil mimicking the minutes that Richie and Vucic played!
Quote from: chef on April 07, 2012, 10:09:08 AM
Here's my guess. Ryan averages 34 mpg next season. He plays the "4" 25 minutes and the "3" 9 minutes.
I really hate to disagree with chef, but that scenario does not make much sense to me with Capobianco on the floor and I am pretty sure he will start along with Kevin and Ryan and be on the floor at least 25 minutes a game barring foul trouble. Ryan will have to play the 3 next year a good percentage of the time, and most likely will be looked at as a 3 at the next level unless he grows 2" and adds 40 pounds. I think this forces other teams to go bigger versus our lineup and that puts the lineup advantage back in our favor. Ryan is a very savvy player who anticipates and plays the angles well already. I am sure he will be working on quickness along with defending the 3 so I am not really too worried about him defensively. In other words, I think Ryan can defend the 3 better than most 3's in our league will be able to defend him.
Quote from: johnestuff on April 07, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
More realistic scenario. Ryan averages 34 minutes a game, all at the 4. Bobby and Vashil mimicking the minutes that Richie and Vucic played!
I don't see this at all. Underestimating Capobianco tremendously if that is what you think.
If Ryan is playing a lot at the 3 we will see Valpo play a lot of zone defense, which is fine with me. I think we see Ryan at the 4 at least half the game, more along the lines of what Chef said.
Quote from: sectionee on April 07, 2012, 05:40:33 PM
If Ryan is playing a lot at the 3 we will see Valpo play a lot of zone defense, which is fine with me. I think we see Ryan at the 4 at least half the game, more along the lines of what Chef said.
Agree with this. If you get 25 minutes from KVW and Capobianco and 10 from Fernandez, you still need 20 from Ryan at the 4 spot. I wouldn't be too worried about the defensive matchups, because as sectionee pointed out, Valpo will play a lot of zone.
Frankly, I think Valpo is at their best offensively with Ryan playing the 4 spot ... meaning they are basically playing a four guard offense. He helps spread the floor, which isolates KVW in the post and he's also a tough matchup for bigger guys. :twocents:
I like seeing Capobianco playing with his back to the basket in that clip, and being physical. Obviously, that was a few years ago, but hopefully still the way he plays.
Options will be available for multiple lineups on the floor. The really intriguing thing about this squad as currently assembled is there is a considerable amount of talent from 1 thru 10 (or more). Every position has at least one player which has proven himself at VU in the past, plus incoming talent at most positions.
This is a deep squad. There are pros and cons to that. Obviously, in case of matchup issues, there will be options. In case of injuries, illnesses, academic issues, ineffective performance, etc. there will be players that should be available to answer the call.
We can go short, with 3 guards and Ryan at a 4, we can go super short with 4 guards and a big, or we can go big with a normal 2 guards, Ryan at 3, Bobby, and Kevin. Or we can go super big with Ryan sliding to a 2 and playing zone.
I too am concerned about the quickness issue. The HL is a quick league, often as stated, with the 3 being a 6'4 or 6'5 swing. With Kenney, we have that option also.
Now, here is the big question...will there be enough minutes for this deep team? There will be a number of seniors. Will they get their minutes? Will everyone be content?
This is a locker room question, which most of us have no idea of how it will work out. I recall talking to Dick Harlan a couple of years ago and we faced a similar situation with an over abundance of guards and he was curious as to how it would play out. It did. My guess is there are no super egos with this squad. There will be great senior leadership with the POY and another HL All Conference performer. These are the questions which concern me most with this group.
lowposter
News about what Bobby is up to this summer!
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2011-12/11847/capobianco-on-trip-to-east-asia-with-us-eagles/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2011-12/11847/capobianco-on-trip-to-east-asia-with-us-eagles/)
Quote from: vu72 on June 04, 2012, 05:58:44 PM
News about what Bobby is up to this summer!
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2011-12/11847/capobianco-on-trip-to-east-asia-with-us-eagles/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2011-12/11847/capobianco-on-trip-to-east-asia-with-us-eagles/)
Good to see that we have a few players playing this summer - Bobby and Rowdy.
This statement speaks volumes about Bobby's character and conviction:
"I am looking forward to using basketball to meet new people and help spread God's word," said Capobianco. "Also, this allows me to travel places I have never been and experience new things and cultures."
I think this trip was in June ... did anyone hear how Capobianco played on the tour?
IMO, Capobianco will be the "wild card" for Valpo next year. I think Valpo will be very good no matter what he contributes, but if he plays like the three-star recruit he was coming out of high school, he could be a huge upgrade over Edwards and Valpo would be a solid top-25 team.
My guess is that Capobianco is a good person and I also agree that he could be the difference between the team being good or great next year. A great team will have Broekhoff playing the 3 at least half of the time, creating better up front strength and a huge matchup dilemma for opponents agaist Broekhoff.
However, I would respectfully disagree that spreading God's word in different cultures shows character and is ethical.
Quote from: EddieCabot on July 05, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
I think this trip was in June ... did anyone hear how Capobianco played on the tour?
IMO, Capobianco will be the "wild card" for Valpo next year. I think Valpo will be very good no matter what he contributes, but if he plays like the three-star recruit he was coming out of high school, he could be a huge upgrade over Edwards and Valpo would be a solid top-25 team.
He will be a different player from Edwards. Richie was a very good 3 point shooter but not such a great rebounder. Bobby is bigger, height and muscle wise so should help out on the boards and make us very tough inside. How he plays on the perimeter will be very interesting. The bigger "wild card" will be Dority. If he can play like a Big East point and put big pressure defensively on teams best guard then he will be a big upgrade to Harris and put us in a position where there is no dropoff from Erik. Another key to how good we will be will be the eligibility or not of Alex Rossi. At 6'5-6" and one of the best shooters in his class, Rossi could easily replace the 3 point shooting of Richie and Jay. If he's as good as advertised (ESPN 92 rating, 36th best 2 guard), then LOOK OUT! ;)
Quote from: vu84v2 on July 05, 2012, 05:11:34 PM
My guess is that Capobianco is a good person and I also agree that he could be the difference between the team being good or great next year. A great team will have Broekhoff playing the 3 at least half of the time, creating better up front strength and a huge matchup dilemma for opponents agaist Broekhoff.
However, I would respectfully disagree that spreading God's word in different cultures shows character and is ethical.
while you obviously have a right to your opinions, I hardly think a Christian school athletic board is the correct place to express it.
Perhaps I did not choose the right place to express my opinion. Athletes and others who use the opportunity of being interviewed on TV after a win or great performance to evangelize their faith could follow the same advice. I will also note that I had a dissenting view towards another comment made on the board, so my comments were not solely unsolicited.
Quote from: vu84v2 on July 06, 2012, 06:52:16 AM
Perhaps I did not choose the right place to express my opinion. Athletes and others who use the opportunity of being interviewed on TV after a win or great performance to evangelize their faith could follow the same advice. I will also note that I had a dissenting view towards another comment made on the board, so my comments were not solely unsolicited.
Evangelism is a basic tenet of Christianity. Valpo is a Christian university. Thus, one might expect VU students to be engaged in Christian evangelistic service initiatives. I assume this isn't news to you.
Getting back on topic, it's amazing how many unknowns there are going into this next season considering that we're returning all five of our starters. Four new faces on the court, possibly five depending on Rossi's eligibility status.
Previous quote from other post: Evangelism is a basic tenet of Christianity. Valpo is a Christian university. Thus, one might expect VU students to be engaged in Christian evangelistic service initiatives. I assume this isn't news to you.
I grew up Lutheran and went through all of the confirmation programs. I never was taught or learned that evangelism was a basic tenet of christianity. I attended Valparaiso (a very good academic institution) and was never told or taught that evangelism was a basic tenet of christianity. I became a member of the UCC and was never taught that evangelism was a basic tenet of christianity. I have served and supported Valparaiso in various ways and have never been told that evangelism is a tenet of christianity. So perhaps evangelism is practiced by a subset of christians that believe that it is somehow their duty to tell people that their faith is better than what people believe and that they somehow speak for all christians...when they do not. Hence the ethical problem with Capobianco's statement.
C'mon man
I'm hoping Capo can relieve Rowdy from having to grab 10 boards a game. Any scoring will be a bonus!
With ya EE. Isn't this evangelism discussion more about how a kid reflects and lives his beliefs rather than getting up on a soap box and preaching. Athletes in Action comes to mind. A lot of very good colleges scheduled these teams to provide a strong pre-season test -- not to hear about their religious foundations. The AIA message was more subtle than in your face. Maybe that is what Bobby was referring to: 'I am a good BB player, and, because I am associated with this particular program you also now happen to know I am committed to my religious beliefs.'
Let's all move on.
Quote from: vu84v2 on July 06, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
Previous quote from other post: Evangelism is a basic tenet of Christianity. Valpo is a Christian university. Thus, one might expect VU students to be engaged in Christian evangelistic service initiatives. I assume this isn't news to you.
I grew up Lutheran and went through all of the confirmation programs. I never was taught or learned that evangelism was a basic tenet of christianity. I attended Valparaiso (a very good academic institution) and was never told or taught that evangelism was a basic tenet of christianity. I became a member of the UCC and was never taught that evangelism was a basic tenet of christianity. I have served and supported Valparaiso in various ways and have never been told that evangelism is a tenet of christianity. So perhaps evangelism is practiced by a subset of christians that believe that it is somehow their duty to tell people that their faith is better than what people believe and that they somehow speak for all christians...when they do not. Hence the ethical problem with Capobianco's statement.
You are making a blanket statement about the Lutheran Church's position om evangelism that is simply incorrect. The largest Lutheran denomination in the United States is the EVANGELICAL Lutheran Church in America. The ELCA has over 10,000 churches (including 2 in Valpo) and 4.7 million members, making it the 7th largest religious body in the U.S. The ELCA teaches that sharing the Christian faith with others is the responsibility of every member.
You may find this interesting (from the ELCA website):
http://www.elca.org/Growing%20In%20Faith/Discipleship/Evangelizing%20Church.aspx (http://www.elca.org/Growing%20In%20Faith/Discipleship/Evangelizing%20Church.aspx)
At the end of day, Bobby C. could just as easily be a member of the ELCA as not, and be participating in something that his church would fully endorse and support.
We can agree to disagree. Agree that moving on is the best thing and I apologize for prolonging the argument.
Meanwhile, back to basketball! Here is a story about Bobby that should get us all excited! I really think he will be a mismatch given his size and strength. Can't wait to see Bobby, Ryan and Kevin on the floor together. Our rebounding problems are over!
http://posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/mutka/9527676-452/mutka-vus-capobianco-roots-ex-iu-teammates.html (http://posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/mutka/9527676-452/mutka-vus-capobianco-roots-ex-iu-teammates.html)