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Title: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: setshot on April 04, 2012, 10:48:24 AM
Any word on Keith's replacement? A few of the old alums here in SC are speculating that Dana Shaw will get the job. All in the family you know. Seriously,any word yet? :-\
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: bbtds on April 04, 2012, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: setshot on April 04, 2012, 10:48:24 AM
Any word on Keith's replacement? A few of the old alums here in SC are speculating that Dana Shaw will get the job. All in the family you know. Seriously,any word yet? :-\

You just like the way the word "Nep" sounds when you say it.

Just like the way IU fans like the word "Hep." May he rest in peace.


it's time the baseball, football & women's basketball teams all get fixated on the word "Win."
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: covufan on April 04, 2012, 03:04:35 PM
I would hope that either ND or Purdue have an assistant ready to take over a team like Valpo.  Those are two programs worth emulating.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on April 04, 2012, 03:12:46 PM
Caroline McCombs? Candace (White) Whitaker (head coach at UMKC for a few years after assisting VU)? 

I am sure that we will hire a solid assistant from a larger program, but hopefully we get someone who will stay a few years!

Edit: nevermind about Candace, I just found an article that says she accepted an Assistant job at Oklahoma State, leaving UMKC's head coaching job after a 22-12 year.  Caroline is an Assistant at Northwestern.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valporun on April 04, 2012, 10:28:15 PM
Candace would be going back to the conference she played her college ball in. She graduated from Texas Tech, and would be going into the spot that was held by the woman who was killed in the plane crash with the head coach. I definitely wish her the best there. UMKC, as we all know, never really supported women's basketball, and she had her rough years. Hope she puts in a good couple of years at Okla St., and moves into another head coaching spot somewhere.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
We are approaching a month with no new coach named.....what gives?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vuweathernerd on April 12, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
We are approaching a month with no new coach named.....what gives?

that's not so much a surprise, but it doesn't even seem like there are even interviews going on. but i very well could be wrong.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 02:00:29 PM
Quote from: vuweathernerd on April 12, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
We are approaching a month with no new coach named.....what gives?

that's not so much a surprise, but it doesn't even seem like there are even interviews going on. but i very well could be wrong.

Sure, this screams of a situation where we can take our time. It is not like we need someone in to analyze who is returning, how they fit or fill open scholarships...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vu72 on April 12, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
I'm sure there is a national search going on just as there has been for every other coach--other than Bryce!!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: FWalum on April 12, 2012, 02:52:54 PM
I admit that I am a little biased having gotten to know Mark Labarbera a little over the last couple of years.  I think that he has shown a high level of competence as the AD of VU and I expect that he is doing his due diligence in vetting the next Women's Basketball Coach and will find someone that is well qualified and suited for the position. 
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 12, 2012, 02:52:54 PM
I admit that I am a little biased having gotten to know Mark Labarbera a little over the last couple of years.  I think that he has shown a high level of competence as the AD of VU and I expect that he is doing his due diligence in vetting the next Women's Basketball Coach and will find someone that is well qualified and suited for the position. 

I am sure you are correct. Short of waiting for someone in the Final Four I would have thought it would go quicker.  I, of course am not an AD, though I occasionally play one on this board.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: KL31NY on April 12, 2012, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
We are approaching a month with no new coach named.....what gives?

I hope they are making some kind of progress. Once everyone came back (save Keith and Kirby of course) from Spring Break, I talked with a few people including Mark. He said the goal was to have a successor named in four weeks. If that's based off Keith's resignation, we're there. If that's based off when I met with him, that deadline is days away.

The sooner we get a coach and set our situation, the better. We shouldn't rush the process to get a coach by tomorrow or anything, but the more time we have left till the end of the year once the new coach is named should be a positive to working through this period and get everyone on the same page heading into the summer.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 13, 2012, 07:09:49 AM
Quote from: KL31NY on April 12, 2012, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 12, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
We are approaching a month with no new coach named.....what gives?

I hope they are making some kind of progress. Once everyone came back (save Keith and Kirby of course) from Spring Break, I talked with a few people including Mark. He said the goal was to have a successor named in four weeks. If that's based off Keith's resignation, we're there. If that's based off when I met with him, that deadline is days away.

The sooner we get a coach and set our situation, the better. We shouldn't rush the process to get a coach by tomorrow or anything, but the more time we have left till the end of the year once the new coach is named should be a positive to working through this period and get everyone on the same page heading into the summer.

I would have thought we'd be further along in the process right now. I understand it doesn't get the same sense of urgency that the boys program would get, given a similiar situation, but, at some point, this administration, and AD, need to show this university, and these ladies, that they do have significance, and they are working hard to build this program back up. The longer they wait to get someone on board, the smaller the qualified candidates list becomes. It's my understanding that the players themselves don't know any more then we do. What kind of message does that send to them? It's a kin to draft day, we're into the final rounds, and the pickins are getting slim. I felt after what these players had to endure last season, we owed them our undivided support, and would make their coaching staff replacement a top priority. There is much work to be done getting a system in place, working through the current scholarship suituations, piecing this puzzle together, and getting a jump on a game plan for next season. Granted, the new staff can't work with the players as they would like , but, being alllowed to do so early last season due to the China trip was proof that that isn't always an advantage. Getting a grip on the players you have, evaluating the newbies coming in, and defining the roles of each of them, is a tall task, and someone needs to be working on it, NOW! As I mentioned before, If they don't have a plan to get some bigs on board, it's going to be another very long season.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: ValpoHoops on April 13, 2012, 10:09:13 AM
There is a women's basketball recruiting period in the spring, this year it's April 20-23 (or thereabouts). That's next weekend. My guess is that there will be a coach in place by then. With only six weeks or so of evaluation periods in a year, a school can't afford to give up a weekend without a coach.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vu72 on April 13, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
Not sure what you mean by "the pickins are getting slim".  Do you mean among D1 coaches?  What about D2 or D3?  There are a bunch of great D2 or 3 coaches who would die to get the Valpo job.  Look at Stevens for example.  Came from a D3 position.  I think the problem is the pool and candidates who have applied is too BIG, not too small.  This happened when Dale Carlson was picked for football.  Everybody thought"who will want the Valpo job?" and the reality was--A LOT of people.

Mark LaBarbera knows what he is doing, let's be patient.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: FWalum on April 13, 2012, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 13, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
Not sure what you mean by "the pickins are getting slim".  Do you mean among D1 coaches?  What about D2 or D3?  There are a bunch of great D2 or 3 coaches who would die to get the Valpo job.  Look at Stevens for example.  Came from a D3 position.  I think the problem is the pool and candidates who have applied is too BIG, not too small.  This happened when Dale Carlson was picked for football.  Everybody thought"who will want the Valpo job?" and the reality was--A LOT of people.

Mark LaBarbera knows what he is doing, let's be patient.
Agree completely, I think Mark's hiring record is pretty darn good.  He already knows all the reasons why this should be attacked with urgency.  Continued support is what this forum needs to show for the ladies program through this tough period.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 13, 2012, 11:42:58 PM
Quote from: ValpoHoops on April 13, 2012, 10:09:13 AM
There is a women's basketball recruiting period in the spring, this year it's April 20-23 (or thereabouts). That's next weekend. My guess is that there will be a coach in place by then. With only six weeks or so of evaluation periods in a year, a school can't afford to give up a weekend without a coach.

You made my point actually. Someone needs to be on board sooner than later to take advantage of the 4/20-23 period. It's important for due dilligence to run it's course, but taking too long has an adverse affect on these situations. The possition becomes less attractive for possibly the "right" candidate, who could also move on to another opportunity.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: setshot on April 18, 2012, 09:35:07 AM
Bucknell has just hired a new women's Bball coach from D3 U of Chicago. He could have been a good fit for VU. Then again,if he had been in the running for both the VU and the BU jobs it would have been,hands down, BU. Nevertheless, where are we in our search? Do we have any candidates? Let's move. :snore:
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vu72 on April 18, 2012, 10:13:52 AM
Quote from: setshot on April 18, 2012, 09:35:07 AM
Bucknell has just hired a new women's Bball coach from D3 U of Chicago. He could have been a good fit for VU. Then again,if he had been in the running for both the VU and the BU jobs it would have been,hands down, BU. Nevertheless, where are we in our search? Do we have any candidates? Let's move. :snore:

Setshot, you are a riot!  :lol: Nice shot at Valpo!  Of course you don't know what you are talking about and that's what makes it really funny. Bucknell was 5-25 last year in women's hoops and obviously is in a worse spot by far than Valpo.  Both mn and women play in a 4000 seat facilitiy which is much smaller than Valpo but, nonetheless, seeing that Bucky plays on the East Coast, it has to be better, right??   :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: setshot on April 18, 2012, 11:11:35 AM
Right! Better location, academically more prestigious schools (closer to UC's standards than VU would have been),better pay and blue. Gotcha! Where are we on our search? ???
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on April 18, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Man, I love popping on here throughout the day to get the occasional glance of some East coast smug.  I took extra delight in my Rangers beating the crap out of the Red Sox last night 19-3, just because of that smug...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: StlVUFan on April 18, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: valpotx on April 18, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Man, I love popping on here throughout the day to get the occasional glance of some East coast smug.  I took extra delight in my Rangers beating the crap out of the Red Sox last night 19-3, just because of that smug...
Me too.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: setshot on April 18, 2012, 01:47:24 PM
Pat Summitt is resigning from her coaching position at Tennessee. Perhaps, even with her health and mental state,she could help us find a coach. We need help.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vuweathernerd on April 18, 2012, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on April 18, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: valpotx on April 18, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Man, I love popping on here throughout the day to get the occasional glance of some East coast smug.  I took extra delight in my Rangers beating the crap out of the Red Sox last night 19-3, just because of that smug...
Me too.

as did i
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpo04 on April 18, 2012, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: valpotx on April 18, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Man, I love popping on here throughout the day to get the occasional glance of some East coast smug.  I took extra delight in my Rangers beating the crap out of the Red Sox last night 19-3, just because of that smug...

...because Texas  smugness is so much better ;)
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on April 18, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
Well, we are big on our state/sports teams, but we don't go around touting our universities as in another world versus everyone else just because they are in TX.  I would assume that hardly anyone on this board can give too many factual comments on where TX universities stand on a national scale, and would be surprised where some of them rank nationally.  It's assumed by people on the East coast that if you went to school in their direction, it is a superior school.  My comment was more directed at the smugness of what they perceive as their IQ versus other areas, not as much sports smugness.  It also may have to do with my company being based out of Boston, and I have to listen to way too much 'the Northeast is the best' bull$*!%  :)
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 18, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Meanwhile, back at the topic..............For me, the cause for concern is this. We've been without a head coach for some time now. There's a lot of movement a foot with coaches taking new possitions, and universities going in different directions. Not only have we heard nothing about a strong candidate or two this late in the process, we haven't even heard the first rumor of interest by a candidate, or the school for that matter. The previous staff had a policy that the ladies would be on campus for classes, and workouts year round. This wasn't a school policy, but what the coaches put into place. We're coming up to May, and the last I heard, the players don't even know what they'll be doing this summer, or where they'll be doing it. Yeah, this is cause for concern as well.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: IndyValpo on April 19, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: jack on April 13, 2012, 11:42:58 PMThere is a women's basketball recruiting period in the spring, this year it's April 20-23 (or thereabouts). That's next weekend. My guess is that there will be a coach in place by then. With only six weeks or so of evaluation periods in a year, a school can't afford to give up a weekend without a coach.

Well, unless we are naming someone today ot looks like this recruiting period will be missed.  Are the assistants (not Kirby) still employed, if so what are they doing?

Freeman resigned 3/15, you figure about 2 weeks to gather candidates, 2 more weeks for interviews and hire someone. We are about a week beyond that. 
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 19, 2012, 08:52:57 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 19, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: jack on April 13, 2012, 11:42:58 PMThere is a women's basketball recruiting period in the spring, this year it's April 20-23 (or thereabouts). That's next weekend. My guess is that there will be a coach in place by then. With only six weeks or so of evaluation periods in a year, a school can't afford to give up a weekend without a coach.

Well, unless we are naming someone today ot looks like this recruiting period will be missed.  Are the assistants (not Kirby) still employed, if so what are they doing?

Freeman resigned 3/15, you figure about 2 weeks to gather candidates, 2 more weeks for interviews and hire someone. We are about a week beyond that.

Unless one of the assistants is a strong consideration to take the helm, (frankly, I like them, but don't think either is ready yet) How much time and effort does a program want them to invest, or would they personally want to invest, when it's a sured bet that, someone outside the program coming in to take over, will be bringing their own staff on board and starting a new. A new coach from outside will already be dealing with the recruits, hand picked by the previous staff, if they have signed on the dotted line already, and I have no reason to believe they haven't.
Again, if this was the men's program, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I feel for the ladies.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: KL31NY on April 19, 2012, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: jack on April 19, 2012, 08:52:57 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 19, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: jack on April 13, 2012, 11:42:58 PMThere is a women's basketball recruiting period in the spring, this year it's April 20-23 (or thereabouts). That's next weekend. My guess is that there will be a coach in place by then. With only six weeks or so of evaluation periods in a year, a school can't afford to give up a weekend without a coach.

Well, unless we are naming someone today ot looks like this recruiting period will be missed.  Are the assistants (not Kirby) still employed, if so what are they doing?

Freeman resigned 3/15, you figure about 2 weeks to gather candidates, 2 more weeks for interviews and hire someone. We are about a week beyond that.

Unless one of the assistants is a strong consideration to take the helm, (frankly, I like them, but don't think either is ready yet) How much time and effort does a program want them to invest, or would they personally want to invest, when it's a sured bet that, someone outside the program coming in to take over, will be bringing their own staff on board and starting a new. A new coach from outside will already be dealing with the recruits, hand picked by the previous staff, if they have signed on the dotted line already, and I have no reason to believe they haven't.
Again, if this was the men's program, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I feel for the ladies.

Take the helm? Steve Helm?  ;D

But seriously, we better have someone soon. Very soon. This is a tough time to be at in the program without knowing who's going to be the leader moving forward...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 19, 2012, 09:10:34 PM
I figured someone would see that.  :P Just a play on words there. My guess is, we'll know something by the weekend. There has apparently been some activity on that front. We shall see.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: bbtds on April 20, 2012, 01:12:58 PM
Yes, we could hire a male coach with the first name Adam(s), Scott, Richard(s)on), or Gerard(ot) but I think the wise decision would be to hire a female coach who would get in her Carr and beat it down to Valpo and make the Call-Away from the pressure, on some of these recruits. Some think the AD is taking 2 Lang(e) to make a decision. Would it really help if the decision were made by Komara? This new coach could Varner a little momentum and bring some hope if only a Timmer, man that would help. What a Ray of sunshine that would be. Some believe that this team will be sHort-on players if we don't get going on recruiting soon. First names of coaches are plentiful, Jan's one.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 20, 2012, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: bbtds on April 20, 2012, 01:12:58 PM
Yes, we could hire a male coach with the first name Adam(s), Scott, Richard(s)on), or Gerard(ot) but I think the wise decision would be to hire a female coach who would get in her Carr and beat it down to Valpo and make the Call-Away from the pressure, on some of these recruits. Some think the AD is taking 2 Lang(e) to make a decision. Would it really help if the decision were made by Komara? This new coach could Varner a little momentum and bring some hope if only a Timmer, man that would help. What a Ray of sunshine that would be. Some believe that this team will be sHort-on players if we don't get going on recruiting soon. First names of coaches are plentiful, Jan's one.

Wow, someone has some time to burn!! :) Smart money say's it'll be a female, but whomever they chose, won't come for Free man!! ;)
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on April 20, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: bbtds on April 20, 2012, 01:12:58 PMYes, we could hire a male coach with the first name Adam(s), Scott, Richard(s)on), or Gerard(ot) but I think the wise decision would be to hire a female coach who would get in her Carr and beat it down to Valpo and make the Call-Away from the pressure, on some of these recruits. Some think the AD is taking 2 Lang(e) to make a decision. Would it really help if the decision were made by Komara? This new coach could Varner a little momentum and bring some hope if only a Timmer, man that would help. What a Ray of sunshine that would be. Some believe that this team will be sHort-on players if we don't get going on recruiting soon. First names of coaches are plentiful, Jan's one.

I had to kirby enthusiasm when I saw this. I think you did a gray job, and that your puns are a boone to the board, but you can have more material when you use the other part of their names, sur.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valporun on April 21, 2012, 01:12:53 AM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on April 20, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: bbtds on April 20, 2012, 01:12:58 PMYes, we could hire a male coach with the first name Adam(s), Scott, Richard(s)on), or Gerard(ot) but I think the wise decision would be to hire a female coach who would get in her Carr and beat it down to Valpo and make the Call-Away from the pressure, on some of these recruits. Some think the AD is taking 2 Lang(e) to make a decision. Would it really help if the decision were made by Komara? This new coach could Varner a little momentum and bring some hope if only a Timmer, man that would help. What a Ray of sunshine that would be. Some believe that this team will be sHort-on players if we don't get going on recruiting soon. First names of coaches are plentiful, Jan's one.

I had to kirby enthusiasm when I saw this. I think you did a gray job, and that your puns are a boone to the board, but you can have more material when you use the other part of their names, sur.

Reading all of this, I couldn't Hammel it. I busted a Gutowski, and if there was video of this, it would have been a thing to Bechtold. Even the Caped Cru-Stangler had to get a laugh from this.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpopal on April 22, 2012, 08:40:16 AM
Mike Flynn of Blue Star Basketball Media, who earlier reported Valpo had narrowed the field to Providence assistant coach Shauna Green and a D-2 coach, now says he heard that "Green is out of the Valpo running, the job went to the D2 coach, and I don't have the name."
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vufan75 on April 23, 2012, 01:55:26 PM
Per Paul Oren on Twitter just a few minutes ago, "Ferris State women's basketball coach Tracey Dorow named to same position at Valparaiso. More details to come."
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: KL31NY on April 23, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
Official Valpo Athletics release- http://valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2011-12/11719/tracey-dorow-named-valpos-womens-basketball-coach/ (http://valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2011-12/11719/tracey-dorow-named-valpos-womens-basketball-coach/)
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpopal on April 23, 2012, 02:02:50 PM
This confirms Mike Flynn's tweets from Saturday:

"Hearing from #USJN (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23USJN) Windy City in IL that Valpo is down to two Shauna Green & a d2 coach named Darro?"

"Green is out of the Valpo running."
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: IndyValpo on April 23, 2012, 02:26:01 PM
Interestingly at Ferris she had one assistant who was a Valpo grad and a manager of the men's and women's BB teams 2001-05.  I would assume he will join her here.

The only other coach was a volunteer assistant who is her father.

Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: VULB#62 on April 23, 2012, 02:33:54 PM
It appears from the year-by-year record attached to the release that she only had three sub.500 seasons and two of those were consecutive.  And with that exception, whenever the record dropped below .500 it was immediately followed by progressively stronger winning seasons.  That suggests recruiting youngsters and developing them into winners and then  starting over again.  Hopefully, at Valpo she can reach the re-load level.  Best wishes to her.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: setshot on April 23, 2012, 03:58:26 PM
I was hoping Valpo would go green,with an East coast connection. However,Dorow from Ferris state sounds like the wheel deal. Welcome aboard and good luck. Go Valpo!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on April 23, 2012, 04:47:46 PM
Congrats to Tracey, and hopefully she returns us back to being a contender!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vu72 on April 23, 2012, 05:14:22 PM
I wish the "meet the public" meeting was going to be on the net.  Maybe someone who can be there will be kind enough to give us their impressions.  Sounds like a very good hire and her comments lead me to think she will be a very good fit.  Now, for setshot's sake, it would have been better if the women had been a Johns Hopkins grad and black, but I'm sure one of three still makes him happy!  ;)
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: 78crusader on April 23, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
Any coach who starts out by thanking the Lord is A-OK in my book. Mark L has yet to make a bad hire. Paul
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: ValpoHoops on April 23, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Tracey is a fantastic coach and a better lady. She wil represent the program, school and community extremely well and I am proud that she is the coach of my school. I truly believe that he will be able to turn the program back into what it should be.


As for her assistant, the Valpo grad, just a gut feeling that he will be joining her ;).
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 24, 2012, 07:16:20 AM
It'll be intersting to see if this new coach will retain the 2 assistants that are still there. I think with them both being new to the scene, it might not be a bad idea to keep them around. They haven't been involved with the program so long (as was Kirby) that they can't adapt a new philosophy, and by all accounts, the two have built up a repore with the players.
We'll see.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: VULB#62 on April 24, 2012, 09:27:34 AM
She's brought at least 1 assistant with her from Ferris State -- Kurt Westendorp -- according to the VU Athletics website.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: bbtds on April 24, 2012, 10:27:14 AM
It looks like Valpo women's basketball is no longer Free, man, we'll just have to wait to see what happens to-Dorow. And Kurt will be coming south and Westendorp with her.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valporun on April 24, 2012, 01:06:53 PM
Yes, Kurt Westendorp has been announced as a part of Coach Dorow's staff, now if we'll see either Steve Helm or Kelly Komara joining her is unknown. Having seen Coach Dorow's record, I'm definitely excited to see that if we have a down year somewhere, she'll be able to put the pieces together to get them back over the .500 mark quickly. Now what current players will be returning and what signed recruits will be coming for the 2012-2013 season?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 24, 2012, 03:35:42 PM
Other than the two that graduated, I believe we'll see all the players that contributed last season, as well as the incoming recruits, as valpo will honor their commitments to them. Now the incoming players may opt out, but it's doubtful. As for the bench riders last season, who knows. I'd like to see a scholarship or two freed up for a couple of bigs. Lord knows we need them.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 26, 2012, 06:31:25 AM
Looks Like Helm is in, and Kormara is out. Not sure I understand the logic there. Let's hope She has a plan. If anything, I would have thought that would have gone the other way. I'm really surprised anyone was kept to be honest. Now we'll see if Dorow can attract some much needed bigs.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: vu72 on April 26, 2012, 08:28:04 AM
So is Stephanie Lang done?  What was her injury?  She certainly is "big".
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: KL31NY on April 26, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: jack on April 26, 2012, 06:31:25 AM
Looks Like Helm is in, and Kormara is out.

Is this official? I haven't seen any indication anywhere else yet that this would be the case.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 26, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
I think Lang had multiple issues she was dealing with. I think even at her healthiest, she's be limited on minutes anyway. Very few players (excluding the one from detriot) her size can get up and down the floor consistently and be effective doing so. It's been my experience that, when a player, of any size or playing any possition, misses an entire season due to multiple medical issues, with no condition that can be corrected with surgery, they are either done, or soon to be. She's a great kid, but with her lack of contribution, or physical conditioning required to play at this level, even if she could return to the mix, it would take an entire season to get back to playing form. I hope I am wrong, but history would say otherwise. I think even a bigger concern now will be, if Horton, and Calloway can get back in and mix it up. As bad as we need bigs, we need more healthy bodies even more. Last season was brutal. You can't compete in D1 with the mess we had last season. I still haven't heard of any extra years of elgeability for any of the players that didn't play last season. Anyone??     
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 26, 2012, 09:21:22 AM
Quote from: KL31NY on April 26, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: jack on April 26, 2012, 06:31:25 AM
Looks Like Helm is in, and Kormara is out.

Is this official? I haven't seen any indication anywhere else yet that this would be the case.

I suppose it's not official, until they make it so. Anything is possible. It's my understanding that this is the way things will shake out. stay tuned I guess.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: VULB#62 on April 26, 2012, 09:41:14 AM
Right now (10:35 AM EDST) the new coaches are profiled and Kormara is still on the WBB web page along with Helm.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on April 26, 2012, 09:58:38 AM
No "Kormara", but there is a "Komara"...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 26, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
Kormara may have been offered a better opportunity, or "fit". Who knows. My info comes from outside the situation so at this time, I see it as "speculation", until it's made official. Personally, I'd like to see her stay on. She seems to have a great repore with the team, and I think she could be big in the recruiting process.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on April 26, 2012, 10:03:40 AM
Yep. Drop the "r".
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on April 26, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: jack on April 26, 2012, 10:03:40 AMYep. Drop the "r".

:)

and ditto what the previous post said--she's a legend here, and that's got to be worth more here than say in Palo Alto.

Although, having said that, the weather--and money--there probably outweighs one's reputation, since that's exactly what took me from the Region to SW FL.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 08, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
Well, it appears my info was right. I notice that Kelly Komara's name has been dropped on the coaches list. I wish her well, where ever she ends up. They've kept Helm as the second assistant.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 17, 2012, 09:55:28 AM
Anyone have any more info concerning the ladies program? Signings, returnings, etc.? Any truth to the rumor that Lang won't be joining them next season? Will Adams be playing next season?
Anyone?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: StlVUFan on May 17, 2012, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: jack on May 17, 2012, 09:55:28 AM
Anyone have any more info concerning the ladies program? Signings, returnings, etc.? Any truth to the rumor that Lang won't be joining them next season? Will Adams be playing next season?
Anyone?

I believe I saw a tweet from Paul Oren that Betsy Adams was released from her scholarship.  Confirm/Deny, anyone?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpopal on May 17, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: StlVUFan on May 17, 2012, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: jack on May 17, 2012, 09:55:28 AM
Anyone have any more info concerning the ladies program? Signings, returnings, etc.? Any truth to the rumor that Lang won't be joining them next season? Will Adams be playing next season?
Anyone?

I believe I saw a tweet from Paul Oren that Betsy Adams was released from her scholarship.  Confirm/Deny, anyone?

I can confirm this.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 17, 2012, 12:54:42 PM
Wouldn't Betsy be a 5th year senior if she stayed? If so, I suspect she's ready for the next chapter. I'm surprised they don't send out a news release letting everyone who cares, and follows the program, know what's up, and what direction they're heading. It would probably go a long way towards rejuvenating support. Unless I missed something, I still haven't seen anything official about Komara. I'm assuming since they don't have here listed as an assistant, that she's moved on. Nothing offical about Stef Lang either, only that she probably wouldn't meet the requirements of the new staff. I trust Scott is rehabing and will be returning. Haven't heard a thing about Calloway. I'm hoping Horton can stay healthy and contribute next season.
Lets hope there's a shot that the new staff has a big or two in mind to join the fold. We are going to be extremely small without any help in that department.   
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on May 17, 2012, 02:01:17 PM
Adams would be a big loss for the program, but if she is ready to graduate and stop playing, you can't blame her
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpopal on May 17, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
Quote from: valpotx on May 17, 2012, 02:01:17 PM
Adams would be a big loss for the program, but if she is ready to graduate and stop playing, you can't blame her

My understanding is that Adams is hoping to transfer to a school where she could play one more year.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 17, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
That's too bad. If she wants to play another year, I'm curious why she would chose to do so elsewhere. Maybe it has something to do with Freeman leaving, and the incoming staff.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on May 17, 2012, 03:00:54 PM
If she is set to graduate, maybe she is taking the Brandon Wood route.  Either way she has to play for a new coach, and she may be thinking she could play for a more competitive program by transferring
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpopal on May 17, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: jack on May 17, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
That's too bad. If she wants to play another year, I'm curious why she would chose to do so elsewhere. Maybe it has something to do with Freeman leaving, and the incoming staff.

It was not her choice.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 17, 2012, 09:43:36 PM
Quote from: valpopal on May 17, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: jack on May 17, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
That's too bad. If she wants to play another year, I'm curious why she would chose to do so elsewhere. Maybe it has something to do with Freeman leaving, and the incoming staff.

It was not her choice.

That's too bad. We'll miss her outside shooting, and leadership. She strikes me as a candidate that will stay involved with the sport after she's done playing. I wish her well in her next endevour.

Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valporun on May 17, 2012, 11:47:58 PM
That's a shame that Adams has been released from her scholarship. I thought she would be on the coaching staff after her college career ended, had Freeman won enough to stay that long...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpopal on May 28, 2012, 09:45:53 AM
Message from Betsy Adams: "Going to be an Eagle next year at Florida Gulf Coast University!!!"  Wishing Betsy the best!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: valpotx on May 28, 2012, 12:02:47 PM
Pretty decent team from the look of it, with them being a 12 seed in the tourney last season.  Good luck to her
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 29, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
Wishing Betsy all the best. With her and Lang departing, and freeing up scholarships, it'll be interesting to see which direction the staff goes to shore up our inside game. It's no mystery that we have to do something inside, if we want to compete in this league next season.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on May 29, 2012, 08:18:23 AM
That's exciting for me to hear, because FGCU's the closest D1 down here--gives me a reason to actually give a you know what about them other than scanning their schedule to see they're not playing anyone I care to see.


Oh, and the irony of having to work the night we were in Miami for the NIT...although, I don't think I could've put them over the top :/
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: Valpo89 on May 29, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: jack on May 29, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
Wishing Betsy all the best. With her and Lang departing, and freeing up scholarships, it'll be interesting to see which direction the staff goes to shore up our inside game. It's no mystery that we have to do something inside, if we want to compete in this league next season.
Did you see, hear or do you know that Stefanie Lang is gone? I heard from a person last week who talked to Stef, and there was no indication that she is no longer part of the program.
I'm assuming you're not referring to Gina Lange, correct?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: KL31NY on May 29, 2012, 02:41:39 PM
Betsy at FGCU isn't too bad a move. Coming off a conference title and NCAA berth, plus w/ about half the guards gone due to graduation, this could be a nice situation for Betsy to try and make an impact. Plus, she will have Abby Scharlow as company from the coaching staff...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on May 29, 2012, 10:22:17 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on May 29, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
Quote from: jack on May 29, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
Wishing Betsy all the best. With her and Lang departing, and freeing up scholarships, it'll be interesting to see which direction the staff goes to shore up our inside game. It's no mystery that we have to do something inside, if we want to compete in this league next season.
Did you see, hear or do you know that Stefanie Lang is gone? I heard from a person last week who talked to Stef, and there was no indication that she is no longer part of the program.
I'm assuming you're not referring to Gina Lange, correct?

It's my "understanding" that the coaching staff will be going in a different direction with regards to Lang. I don't know, nor have I heard anything official to confirm this. I will say, if you look at the new coaches's MO, or approach to coaching, one would get the sense that Lang, and maybe a few others, might just struggle with the conditioning requirements she expects from her teams. I think in the next couple of months, we may see some surprising developments, as we should. To make an omlete, you have to crack an egg. This staff will have their hands full trying to get us back to being a competitive program, and it will require many changes. Some expected, and others, maybe not. Given that we could not continue down the path we were on, we can only support the staff and their decisions, popular or not, and we will always cheer on our lady Crusaders!     
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: bbtds on June 11, 2012, 08:21:53 AM
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2011-12/11851/katie-loosvelt-completes-womens-hoops-coaching-staff/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2011-12/11851/katie-loosvelt-completes-womens-hoops-coaching-staff/)

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet, last Thursday Coach Tracey Dorow named one of her former Ferris State basketball players, Katie Loosvelt, as an assistant coach to her Valpo women's basketball staff. Loosvelt played for Dorow from 2004 to 2008 as a point guard.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: VULB#62 on June 11, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
Noted her background and experience in conditioning, fitness and nutrition.  Seems to align with Jack's earlier post about Dorow emphasizing conditioning.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball Coach
Post by: jack on June 11, 2012, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 11, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
Noted her background and experience in conditioning, fitness and nutrition.  Seems to align with Jack's earlier post about Dorow emphasizing conditioning.

She sounds like an interesting fit for this program. She's familiar with the coach, and her style, her expectations, and is all about conditioning, targeted towards the female athlete. I don't think the last point gets stressed enough. There are routines, specific to women basketball players, that is geared towards the way they are built, specifically their hip and knee alignment, which is far different then men players. Many injuries can be avoided with a proper conditioning routine.
A large plus I see with adding her to the mix, is her experience with the guard possition. We are, and will be a guard heavy squad for some years to come. her experiences, along with the four years served under Dorow, should prove to be quite valuable to these young group of guards.
Starting to get ramped up already about the upcoming season!