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Valpo Basketball / Re: Butler Bball Scheduling
May 26, 2016, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: bbtds on May 26, 2016, 10:09:38 AM
Here is a question I'd like Butler fans to answer.

I noticed it a couple years ago when the scheduling was announced but forgot to post it on this board. I noticed it in a post on the SLU board about Indiana State's schedule.

Scroll down to HoosierPal's post (#18) on May 20th when he quotes a line about Indiana State's schedule that was in the Terre Haute Tribune Star:

QuoteThe rest? Butler visits Hulman Center to conclude a 2-for-1, a rare two where the pair was at Hulman Center. ISU plays at Utah State in the Mountain West/MVC Challenge.

There's the mix of the traditional in-state/nearby mid-major foes (Valparaiso, Ball State, Eastern Illinois). Western Kentucky visits Hulman Center and so will a likely Division II team. ISU might do a buy game, but given its schedule, it might not have to.
– Todd Golden, Tribune-Star


Butler gave Indiana State a 2-for-1 with the 2 games at the Hulman Center. Yet they demand a 2-for-1 from Valpo with the 2 games at Hinkle. WHY? What makes Indiana State so much better than Valpo? ISU, a team Valpo beat last season. The simple answer is Butler is scared they will lose to Valpo!!!

As many others have noted, it was not a 2-for-1.  It was a home-and-home.  The first game we played there was a return game from a bracket-buster event.

But why is your question posed as "Why won't Butler play at Valpo?"  It should be phrased as "why won't ANYONE play at Valpo?"  What's been the biggest non-Butler game at the Arc in the past 10-15 years?

I looked over the past 5 years and it looks like it was either Ball State or Duquesne.  So...yeah, it's not a Butler thing.

The Horizon league is markedly below the MVC, which is another reason we'd schedule ISU over Valpo.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the Big East or other power conferences that are willing to schedule a H/H with a Horizon league school.  Butler was an anomaly in that league, which is why they're not in it anymore.
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Quote from: bbtds on May 24, 2016, 05:41:07 AM
I still believe that Irish Dawg is pushing a lot of Butler BS down our way so that he can feel even more superior about his school doing better than Valpo. So much of that argument is contrived BS! I will never understand why Butler people, like Irish Dawg, feel that Butler is so much more superior than Valpo. There is one coach in the HL that Butler never beat in 4 tries and that was Bryce Drew. Then they quit playing Valpo. Now that is a whole lot of BS!

Came over from the Butler board to see what you guys were thinking about Peters and saw this gem...

Couple notes...

1.  Butler played a Bryce Drew coached Valpo team three times (unless there was some time when Bryce filled in for Homer I don't recall).  All three of those games were in the 2011-12 season, one of Butler's worst in the past 20 years...so kudos to that one.  I'm sure Bryce has a plaque in his office commemorating that accomplishment...

2.  How is Butler's basketball program not objectively superior to Valpo's?  I'm not trying to be a dick, but what's one measure where you would say Valpo > Butler?

Conference Affiliation?
NCAA Tournament Births?
NCAA Tournament Wins?
All-Time H2H Record?
Attendance?
Facilities?

I personally just hope Peters doesn't end up in Bloomington.