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Just wipe the floor with Wardle's smug face, that's all I ask.

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I agree it is a revolving door at this point. GB will have two 4-star transfers coming in for next year, but we lose our best post guy. Its a bit of a wash, but other schools like Detroit and Cleveland State probably won't be so fortunate. Its a shame, I was really looking forward to watching most of the league come back next year but it really seems like every single team outside of Oakland will have lost their best player.

Its all fun and games until he decides to transfer halfway through the process. This rule benefits the players immensely, but is a total joke to the schools that recruit these kids out of hs. We're in the age of "personal brand building," even if that means hopping around from school to school, leaving early to the NBA even without a shot in hell of getting selected, all in the name of HOPEFULLY getting a pro opportunity someday, as opposed to staying at one school (maybe even transferring once if its for the right reasons) and playing well in a good situation. I may just be bitter about the Kerem situation, but seeing this happen around the league (now with Jaleel Hogan, too) is really starting to steer me towards losing interest in mid-major basketball if I know I can't even root for a kid to have a good year for the fear of him jumping ship to another school or the pros immediately.

I think he might be more of a project, but will be a very good player. His main strength is rebounding and he gets a lot of putbacks. It will be interesting to see how well he integrates into our up tempo style. He isn't going to run by anyone, but he might present matchup problems for guys like Smits and Sorolla in the post since he can muscle his way to rebounds. My bold prediction: our local guy, Will Chevalier, a 6-8 PF, will be our best freshman, and might be our best guy of this class.

He's definitely not coming back to us, he officially was granted his release.

One (ridiculous imo) destination according to their own fans is Bradley to reunite with the devil himself, Wardle. That is a lateral move at best and I really do not see why that would make any sense since they already have some bigs and the Braves aren't exactly a spring board into the NBA. Again, that is their own speculation, not mine, and I think its absurd. As of right now, none of us have heard anything other than he wants to go to a top 6 conference, where he'd probably snag about 10 minutes off the bench per game, tops. Maybe out west by his brother, a UNLV, Utah, perhaps, who knows? That is my own pure speculation. In any case, his best shot to make the league was to stay at GB where he was familiar with the system and his teammates and could've thrived as our go-to guy, gaining all-conference honors along the way.

Losing Kolawale and Santos will be a huge loss for the Flames because now teams can comfortably defend Dixson. UIC will be a two man show next year with Odiase and Dikembe.


Like was mentioned above, something needs to be done about the transfer rule. Kids have no incentive to stay at a mid to low major anymore if they even think they have a sniff at a higher level (see Kerem Kanter).

Again, this has nothing to do with "being oversensitive," it has everything to do with aligning one's self with the wrong side of history. We (most of us anyway) laugh at, but often scold those who brandish the confederate flag for the very same reason. The whole, "its our heritage" thing only works if your heritage is objectively inoffensive (by this I mean that a reasonable person who considers the circumstances would generally find no reason to be offended). Clearly, there are grounds for offense to be taken, therefore, don't berate those who do take offense to something like this. I am an unapologetic leftist (not a liberal, way further left) and I personally do not really find the crusader name offensive, but I can coherently rationalize why some might be uncomfortable with it. Be the "knights", "the horsemen", something that is uniquely Valpo, that would be cool. Crusaders are not unique to a Lutheran university (it literally makes zero sense, anyway, that would like my graduate school Marquette, which is Jesuit, going by the name the "Norbertines"). Like I said, I personally couldn't care less, but its not irrational to conceive the idea that some people might be reasonably offended by it.

I'm obviously an outsider, but I would vote yes simply because "Crusaders" and the event the name glorifies was in fact a horrific one. I get that its a private xian school, if you asked any student, fan, or faculty if they morally support what the "Crusades" represent, you'd be hard-pressed to find any real support. Something similar or something that represents Valpo's values or culture would be just fine, trust me, its not an attack on your identity.

To play Devils advocate and say he leaves, we will have no post presence unless we land a Juco PF named Vance Johnson. Our guards will be fine, Paul Turner will be an all conference dark horse. We also have Marquette transfer Sandy Cohen starting in December. We will be able to score, without Kanter we won't be able to rebound. If we do keep him, we could make a run at a conference title.

He already said he won't transfer. He also made no mention of playing anywhere else professionally, just the NBA, so my guess is on the backout deadline, Kerem will return to GB

Now he's already saying, "I can definitely see myself staying here".... I doubt he leaves

The only thing any of us can really see him doing is going to Europe to play next season, if anywhere else but GB. No chance he is on an NBA court come October as anything but a spectator. Personally, I think he will be back, but like any self-respecting Wisconsin sports pessimists do, our board is acting like the sun just burned out. Like you said, Kerem doesn't lose anything, he's probably just testing the waters.

I'm not sure on the grad transfer rule, my guess is that you can go wherever you want once you've graduated. However, he has indicated that he doesn't plan to transfer, only declare for the draft.

Having watched every single game the kid has played at the collegiate level, there is no chance he is pro-ready. Not sure why he decided this year was the time to do it since his stock really couldn't be that high (he only started for 6 weeks with up and down results). Maybe eventually he projects out but not right now. If he wants to go, that's his choice, however, I really don't see how this benefits him. Not signing with an agent is a curious choice, too. You would think if he were that confident that he would sign with someone. Maybe there is a bigger story here, but as of a few days ago, Linc gave an interview and mentioned Kerem as the guy to watch for next year in terms of impact, so this surely comes as a surprise to him. We have to play the waiting game now, I guess, this is far from over.

^ I don't know if using a slogan like that would attract the right clientele/support...

My proposal is a 6 team playoff, top two seeds get byes to the semi-finals, all games are hosted by the higher seed, games are every other night. How hard is that?

I personally don't really pay attention to the women's team. They are certainly more popular in the Green Bay area and when you talk about the "Phoenix" people generally assume you're talking about the women's team. I think for me, it boils down to "success fatigue" where its not even fun to watch them roll teams by 50 on the path to their guaranteed NCAA berth every year. I'm certainly happy for them, but I'd gladly trade their success to the men's team at any second.

In total opposition to my last post, per NBC Sports, Gary Waters is OUT at CSU.

I honestly think if Waters stays, the Vikings could be a contender for a 5-6 seed next year. Lots of experience on the team and Rob Edwards is pretty good.

Per ESPNs Jeff Goodman, the Horizon Semi-final was the last game for Jerry Slocum, as he has officially stepped down and retired at YSU.

^ Our forum is pretty dead, gotta vent somewhere...

^^ I've been responding, my man

The Phoenix will still be a competitor for a top 3 seed. We lost a lot of players but honestly it is more "trimming the fat." 3 guys were below average, non system players, while our Juco transfers were solid, but not unreplacable by any means. We are very excited about our incoming freshmen and we still have two scholarships to give. We also have a JUCO guy coming in who averages something like 27/8 the last time I checked. Plus, we have a 4.5 star Marquette transfer who will have a year and a half. Watch out for us, I think we will be more competitive next year.