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two points

1) why are we assuming that he DIDN'T have academic issues last year - since he was sitting out for transfer, how would we know that he met eligibility grades last year.

2) it's not a large campus and these guys hang out together - surely when classes get going here, it's going to be pretty obvious if he's not around campus with the team....

[but I'm calling he's a transfer risk.]

Anybody else see Bradford sulking on the bench during timeouts.  Is he engaged with the team? 

Purely speculation, but I'm calling he's a transfer risk.

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Well, in today's AAU world mentality, do you think, adding a stud like Evelyn plus returning Lexus, Tevonn and Max, that playing time might b getting limited? I hope not...

One of the things to realize is that a team that has had the likes of Nickerson, Skara, Hammink, etc, we are used to a bigger line up.  That's not a bad thing, but neither is a more pure 3 guard look especially in the HL.  I was trying to find minutes for those guys all in my head in 2 spots (plus this potential new Juco transfer), but the reality is you are probably looking at most of 3 spots (given next year's inexperience at the small forward position).  Still, if Lexus and Bakari are both true point guards, and Lexus can find tonights form (so far sometimes) and Bakari lives up to his 3 stars (hopefully, but still yet to be proven), I'm also mentally trying to find minutes for Bradford.  Glad those more in the know seem to think he is in on VU.  I also don't know about sulking, but it's reasonable to wonder about the dudes minutes given all this, albeit a bit of downer after a good win. 

The other side of the equation is NO ONE had a game pencilled in for "it'll be a close game and you will see 30 total minutes from Davidson and Kiser" at the start of the year.  Ya never know what opportunity will show up before Bradford next year.... having three reasonable point guard options is a luxury I can't remember...

The Carter eligibility ruling was a real head scratcher.

Well, the Carter decision was rough, but it hinged more around SLU.  SLU refused to redshirt Keith at the time (played him for a few games and then still wouldn't even though under the minimum).  Also, recall, we brought him into games at the semester even though we knew there was a potential issue - our choice.  To get the NCAA to rule in his favor, it would require them to  exert influence over SLU.  As much as neither would help (a 2 or 3 loss team), having the NCAA dictate to a small school like SLU would, in the long run, be a disservice to us.  We got the raw end, but at least the NCAA isn't running every school's process.  It's just enforcing.


We got a better deal with Vashil because it involved an international professionalism issue.  It didn't involve another NCAA team...

I wonder if phone calls, emails, etc to the athletic department and/or NCAA about jubrils situation would be helpful to add some more pressure to those involved in holding out on this decision.

Probably would do more good than my spirited but likely futile #LetJubrilPlay twitter campaign...


Does the torch still do a letter to the editor section?  That used to be a semi effective way to get the students worked up and, now that university finally lets them publish digitally, it might go a long way towards getting the alumni involved. 


It seemed to be a pretty good tactic when we were at the university, but, then again, my roommate was the editor of the torch, so....

Or play Jubril at the 4?

Jubril is a former 6 man of the year, and outside of energy no show games that go way beyond Smirolla, the team has been playing pretty well.  Of course, smirolla will see diminished minutes (especially the smits part), but I think Jubril is going to come of the bench.  I bet he gets a shade over 20 minutes  across the 3, 4 and 5.  Peters is gassed and hasn't had someone competent to back him up all year.  Especially if we can get a couple big leads, we'll see a fair amount of Jubril at the 4 (where he played exclusively his first two years and some last year) whether or not he is the starting center.

It was the pep-band.

I was one of the more dedicated music majors in my class and when we were at VU, EVERYONE who was actually serious about music avoid the pep band like the plague.  This isn't a dig at the style of music, but the band was so horrific, anyone who seriously enjoyed music of any style didn't want to associate with the band.  Also, I lived on an intensive steady floor, played a piano for four hours a day, and my friends and I still managed to be supremely more socially functional than most of the pep band.  Even worse, most of them didn't even understand basketball.  That atmosphere at the arc would have been so much better if they just played recorded music.


I went to a large state school for grad school, and they payed the better music students to play in the band at home games.  The director was a staff member and not a student volunteer (like VU) They probably spent a couple grand a game on the pep band + it was about 1/4 of the instructors full time job.  You get what you pay for, I guess....

Hopefully the majority of students are staying away in some sort of protest until they FreeJubril

It's already a movement and it's #LetJubrilPlay

It can only be we recruit a type of student who just doesn't care.

many of them would rather cr4p on the mascot than cheer on the basketball team...

When I was at Vu they would go so far as to pull over the student escort van to breathalyze everyone

I was not one of these students, but what started happening was students stopped using a dial a-ride and walking home and made other safe choices like putting 12 people in a car and trying to figure out how to use a round-about for the first time while intoxicated....

Stephen Davis is their starting 6'8" center.  He shots about 36% from 3.

This won't be good for Alec's final numbers, but I can see a lot of time the game with Micah, Lexus, Tevon, Shane and Alec on the court together.  And indeed, this would be a great game to #LetJubrilPlay

There are many people who say "let Jubril play". They don't know the facts and evidence, and nor do I.  I encourage the parties at be, whether they are the university or the NCAA, to investigate this as fast as possible - but I doubt that the basketball program is making poor judgements

As one of the promulgators of the #LetJubrilPlay movement, I would say I also trust the basketball program...  I don't trust the NCAA, or, necessarily, the university to go to bat for the kid...   I am especially suspicious of an organization that has strict amateurism standards when it comes to not paying players, but treats them basically like convicted adults while taking it's time figuring out their futures.  Even in issues that might not involve a moral laps, should it take months for guys like Vashil and Carter to hear back from the group on what they get to do with the next year of their lives?

Another dominating performance.  Funny to see Sorolla playing in the clean up role versus Derrik.  I think J is better at this time. Also, unfortunately, Micah still looks like a deer in the headlights.  Concerning...

Valpo is clearly not starting it's best 5 players, and it's working.  We need some support in the second rotation, and balancing the bench while letting smits/micah play with AP and Shane has been what has spurred this team.  Plus, Sorolla is often getting more minutes than Derek anyway.   I've also come to wonder to what extent Lexus' role change has been due to his knee starting to break down... saw him riding the bike towards the end of yesterdays game

Shane has been real good lately. Biggest difference is attacking the lane to score and not looking to pass on those drives. Keep it up!

He's managed to not give the ball to his defender 6 times a game these days, too...

bringing down the hammer on time programs like us.

The Valpo death penalty!

#LetJubrilPlay is growing on twitter.  Pick the meme up and share

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I have a high res version of this if anyone wants it for publication... couldn't figure out how to get a big file attached here....

Joking aside, can we confirm there will NOT be any score updates on the NFL game? It's like #LastMan come early! Didn't Whelliston's game get broken -at the ARC- one year, by somebody in the student section with a sign board?

Yes, that was my friends

uh... so i was just on twitter and typed in paul's twitter handle in the search bar and this came up...

This is my chance at internet fame!  Er, uh, social justice!

And here I thought pre-trial detention was a long-standing American tradition.

If you catch the right war or right federal agency, it's still possible get no-trial detention!

Forgive my ignorance here, but Kiser does have a scholarship, doesn't he? I've been surprised at the amount of playing time he's been getting, although that's not to say he hasn't earned it.

no he is a walk on

Let Jubril Play

Why do I picture a group of sanctimonious people lording over this process, who when asked why are you taking so long to resolve this, respond with a wry, dismissive, "Because we can."

I can see the kind of guy that wants to be a student on the honor council also being the kind of guy that didn't make the basketball team his freshman year of high school...

I hate saying it, but this Jubril absence has really developed our future big men.  Smits and Sorolla would not be anywhere near what they are now, without the last 9 games.

The Jubril suspension was definitely the best thing that could have happened to Smirolla and the 2017-2018 team, apart from landing a point guard transfer mid season

At this point, the best guess is this is a non Valpo holdup. The Honor Council, if involved, would have met and issued their decision by this time. So while it's convenient to blame the Honor Council because....well we have to blame someone....I'm not sure that blame it appropriately place. Fact is, none of us know what the actual situation is and we are unlikely to ever find out what it is.

Without every having been involved with the honor council, i'd have to agree.  In addition to the length, I think it would be impossible to keep the proceedings quiet.  If it were internal with the HC, someone on campus would know something, and it seems like no one really does, at least with regards to consequences.

I can't imagine why Jubril would hang out in street clothes on the bench at home games if he isn't going to come back this year.  Condition of his scholarship? But you've got to wonder about the locker room dynamic.

Well, I'd say he has some coaching value.  Certainly in practice. 

Additionally, since Valpo is a school that gives a crap about character and making these guys in to decent adults, I'd say the best punishment for something like this is having a front row seat to how much your stupid actions have cost your friends...