VU Record Watch

[valpotx]

It doesn't surprise me that he is so high up on the national chart, when only being 5th on our all-time list.  They moved the 3-pt line back a few feet several seasons ago...

[LaPorteAveApostle]

The new season blocks record is 98.  The old one was 72.  So, should stand for a while.  We'll miss you, Vashil, especially the extra year you should've had.  His career mark was 170, #2 behind Raitis' 228.

The new record for most points in fresh-soph years is 1003.  Alec posted the #8 season for points with 570, and while having more games than most of the rest of those guys on the list helped, he still had to do it.  Had he hit one more 3 at the end (wouldn't that've been nice) he'd have tied senior Dan Oppland for season points, and he'd have passed senior Rowdy Broekhoff to have the #6 season in 3FGs alone.  (Let that sink in for a second.) 

As it is, he posted the #5 all-time 3-pt shooting season, at 46.6%, and is just behind Seth Colclasure for the #5 3FG% career, at 42.55%.

So how much better could he be?  I'll leave that to Kyle to project improvement, and simply give the most conservative estimate (what else) and tell you where he'd be if he posts 2 more seasons just like these 2.  Just a baseline; obviously he'd do better, just as he exceeded last year this year.

Games
1.  Buggs 138
2.  Alec 136

Points
1. Bryce 2185
2. Alec 2006

Rebounds
t4. Dan Oppland 782
t4. Alec 782

Field Goals
1. Alec 698
2. Bryce 696

3FG
1. Bryce 364
2. Alec 280

FTs
6. Dan Oppland 364
7. Alec 330

After 20 more FTA he'll be top 10 for FTs as well as 3FGs.

Again, this is the baseline.  I mean, why would Bryce leave in the next two years?  Because he's the only one who can keep Alec from breaking most of his records ; )

[FWalum]

 Keep on talking about Alec, but I think we also need to add Tevonn into the equation.  I think many of us speculated what it would have been like to have Brandon Woods for three years paired with Rowdy, well now I think we will have a better combination with Tevonn and Alec. I expect Tevonn to improve considerably over the summer, his outside shooting got better as the season progressed and if you look at just conference numbers his 3pt shooting percentage was in the low 40% range. He could easily average 15-16 a game next year.

[LaPorteAveApostle]

I think we also need to add Tevonn into the equation

Very good point; I'm not sure where he fits in yet, though we'll have a better idea after next year.

Here are some freshman guard season numbers.

Some I don't have stats for; some don't belong in a comparison because there's just no comparison as freshman to freshman (B-Mac got 10 mpg for 25 games; Berdiel got 14 mpg for 31; Nuness was too long ago to have stats for, as was Tonagel).

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=jimmie-miles&erik-buggs=2008-2009&i=1&jarryd-loyd=2004-2005&jimmie-miles=2003-2004&milo-stovall=1998-1999&p1=tevonn-walker&p2=jarryd-loyd&p3=milo-stovall&p4=erik-buggs

As you can see, the best comparison for him in Valpo freshman terms is Milo Stovall.  Loyd and Buggs were 1s not 2s, so, duh.  But they're really the only freshman guards that got as heavy a run.  However, my recollection--feel free to challenge--was that Milo had an amazing freshman year that was pretty close to his ceiling (12.0 ppg as sr, 10.6 as fr).

I also threw in Jimmie Miles despite once calling on this site for a "moratorium on comparisons to Jimmie Miles".  I think the statute just ran out on that though.

[agibson]

With LAA out of the picture, at least for a while, we should probably renew this thread.

I took a few notes while listening to my recording of the WVUR broadcast of Chicago State.  Others are welcome to clean it up, or update it, etc.

With Vashil getting that extra year after all, there's every chance that Raitis Grafs all-time block mark will fall... maybe against Wright State in February.  Vashil's on pace for 72 for this year (with a conservative game estimate, throughout this post), just past Moussa for the second best season, but well off his own mark from last year.

Vashil's also on pace to make it... about #15 in the career rebound standings.

Alec was setting youth records after his sophomore year, so no surprise that career records will come. He's on pace to make it into the top 10 in career scoring, in just his third season. In fact it looks like he entered the record books at #20 tonight.  (On the same night he entered a three-way tie for best single game 3P%.)

He's also moved to #8 on the career 3PM chart.  (That's right, part way into his junior season.)  3 behind Shawn Huff.

How about FT's? Alec's got a chance to make it into the top-10 single season FTM ranks this year.

He'll soon be eligible for the career FT% ranks, where he'd currently place 9th, behind Rowdy.

How about rebounds?  Alec's on pace to make it to 14th in the career ranks this year.  After only his junior season.

That's Alec and Vashil, anyone else?

It looks like Keith Carter's got a chance at knocking Jake Diebler out of that #20 career assist spot... in just three seasons.

Skara and some others currently have FG% numbers high enough for the top-10 single season ranks, but it's early.  Probably they'll come down a bit towards Earth.

[agibson]

Update through Youngstown State

Career Blocked Shots
1. Raitis Grafs 1999-03 228
2. Vashil Fernandez 2012-pres. 217 (on pace for 252)

Could break the record... @UIC on February 6?

Single Season Blocked Shots
1. Vashil Fernandez 2014-15 98
2. Moussa Gueye 2013-14 71
3. Raitis Grafs 2000-01 67
...
5. Vashil Fernandez 2013-14 58
...
10. Zoran Viskovic 1997-98 49
   Vashil Fernandez 2015-16 48

Career Rebounds
15. Bill Jenkins 1994-98 574
16. Zoran Viskovic 1996-99 551
17. Vashil Fernandez 2012-pres. 550 (on pace for 650, #11)
18. Jon Robisch 1961-64 546
    Joel Oberman 1971-75 546
20. Jim Stueve 1982-86 545
21. Alec Peters 2013-pres. 542 (on pace for 645, #13, after his _junior_ year)

Career Points
13. Jeff Simmons 1978-82 1,395
14. Mike Jones 1986-90 1,378
15. Milo Stovall 1998-02 1,345
16. Alec Peters 2013-pres. 1,335 (on pace for 1562, #7, after his _junior_ year)

With a post-season run, Alec could certainly crack the single-season point charts.

Career 3-Pointers Made
3. Lubos Barton 1998-02 244
4. Alec Peters 2013-pres. 185 (on pace for 216 after his _junior_ year)
5. Lance Barker 1991-95 177

Already leaving behind the likes of Shawn Huff.

Earlier this season he entered a four-way tie for best single game 3P% at 6-6.

Career 3-Point Percentage
1. Samuel Haanpää 2006-08 44.5%
2. Bryce Drew 1994-98 43.5%
   Shawn Huff 2004-08 43.5%
   Alec Peters 2013-pres. 43.5%

Single Season 3-Point Percentage
6. Scott Anselm 1986-87 46.1%
7. Seth Colclasure 2005-06 46.0%
8. Bryce Drew 1994-95 45.9%
   Alec Peters 2013-pres. 45.9%
10. Bryce Drew 1996-97 45.7%
Samuel Haanpää 2006-07 45.7%

Career Free Throw Percentage
6. David Redmon 1992-95 82.6%
7. Rob Cavanaugh 1990-94 82.5%
8. Alec Peters 2013-pres. 81.9%
9. Ryan Broekhoff 2009-13 81.8%

Career Assists
19. Ryan Broekhoff 2009-13 246
20. Jake Diebler 2005-09 229

Keith Carter 2013-pres. 212 (in three seasons)
could knock off Jake the same night Vashil takes the career blocks record?

[agibson]

We should make an update for individual records, but the Valpo SID's gotten us started with some team league records.

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Seems like the "league" records are regular-season only, not sure about the "all games" records that include non-conference (do they also include the league tournament?).

But, some of these we seem to beat rather soundly
(compare
http://hln.s3.amazonaws.com/sports/recordbooks/2/recordbook.pdf?1453990379
p. 22 or so).

Scoring margin was 09-10 Butler at 13.2, to our 14.7. Rebounding Margin 86-87 Loyola +11.1 to our +13.0. Overall rebounding is tighter, 81-82 Loyola had 43.2 to our 43.6 (higher tempo for their team, perhaps?).

With 93 blocks in the league season, we came very close to the current record, Green Bay 11-12 at 94, but UIC takes it at 101. (Was UIC also the most blocked? Suffering 88. One could wonder about their official scorer...)

For the "all games" records, currently overall rebounding seems too close to call vs. Dayton 90-91. Xavier 89-90 keeps their rebounding margin record. Looks like scoring margin is ours, +14.3 over Butler 01-02 +12.6.

Despite Oakland leading the country in scoring (87.3, 88.2 in conference) they don't come close to 87-88 Xavier which was at 95.2/95.0.

[talksalot]

Ending the 2016-17 campaign...

Lottich has a career won-loss record of 24-9, 72.73%
That is #1 on the career coaching chart for VU

Bryce was 124-49, 71.68%
Scott was 20-11, 64.52%
Homer was 371-305, 54.88%

Lottich's team scored an average of 74.70 points per game
2015-16 - 75.19 points per game
2005-06 - 78.76 points per game
2001-02 - 77.70 points per game
1992-93 through 1996-97 all averaged of 75 points per game


As a  team... forever...
we have 1,342 wins and 1,188 losses (53.04%)
we have scored 161,400 points, given up 158,339 points, a difference of 1.21 points per game

Lottich record
we scored 2,465 and gave up 2,274, a difference of 5.79 points per game
Bryce:  12,330 vs. 10,959, a difference of 7.92 points per game
Scott:  2,194 vs 2,036 a difference of 2.53 points per game
Homer:  48,409 vs 47,275 a difference of 1.68 points per game

[covufan]

Homer was 371-305, 54.88%

Considering Homer was 24-87 (21.62%) after four seasons, his final tally is quite impressive!

Last 18 years for Homer: 347-218 for a 61.42%.

[talksalot]

Not a lot of outstanding things this year... except #6 performance on the court.

Darius DeAveiro Assists

2021-22  68
2022-23  50
2023-24  130
              ----
              248

From the Record Book:
15. Milo Stovall 1998-02 295
16. Jared Nuness 1997-02 290
17. Tim Hostetler 1974-78 284
18. Greg Tonagel 1998-04 280
19. Daniel Sackey 2018-2021 269
20. Darius DeAveiro 2021-....    248

dropping off...
20. Ron Howard 2003-06 247


Congratulations to Darius for breaking into the top 20... as a JUNIOR!   

[valpotx]

I was hoping that it would be acknowledged in the write-up after our loss today, but do we have some type of ultimatum to only spin positive news about this season in those after game summaries?  After today, we have officially clinched our first under .500 home record since the 1991-1992 season.  That is not some simple thing to be swept under the rug.  That is 32 seasons of at least .500 ball at home, which is quite a feat, and unfortunately, the last vestige of our successful days to go away.  SID, why no mention of this aspect??

[historyman]

From the Record Book:
15. Milo Stovall 1998-02 295
16. Jared Nuness 1997-02 290
17. Tim Hostetler 1974-78 284
18. Greg Tonagel 1998-04 280
19. Daniel Sackey 2018-2021 269
20. Darius DeAveiro 2021-....    248

Tim Hostetler was one great ball handler and assist man. He, like a lot of point guards, passed first and looked to shoot when there weren't any better options.

I tried to look up some facts but could only find that his niece, Kasey, played soccer at Seattle U & Western Washington.

https://wwuvikings.com/sports/womens-soccer/roster/kasey-hostetler/4060

"PERSONAL: Major is biochemistry ... Her uncle, Tim, played basketball at Valparaiso University."