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Started by HC, November 15, 2012, 10:53:56 AM

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Smj

That was a very fun read.........

valpotx

Let's go HL!  I am not sure of the consequences for the conference's RPI over these 9 games, but the WAC is not too far behind us in that area.
"Don't mess with Texas"

LaPorteAveApostle

Quote from: valpotx on February 23, 2013, 12:55:02 AMthe WAC is not too far behind us in that area.

Then it's time for us to deploy "MISSION: CHICAGO STATE"

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talksalot

Oh Man... and I was going to put big bucks on IUPUI tonight... thank you for saving me from the embarrassment!  Guess I'll just watch a replay of last night's Saint Louis Game at the venerable place down state...:)

LaPorteAveApostle

Quote from: Smj on February 22, 2013, 10:35:04 PMThat was a very fun read.........

thanks, smj & 72.  it's fun putting these together, but you never know who gets it.
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

KL31NY

Here's a "who to root for" page: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader Especially fun for today with all these Bracketbuster matchups
"Confidence is huge: believing you're better than the other guy gives you an advantage."
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vuweathernerd

Quote from: KL31NY on February 23, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
Here's a "who to root for" page: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/jerry-palm-reader Especially fun for today with all these Bracketbuster matchups

great find. gonna have to save this one for the next couple weeks.

vuweathernerd

i can't do it. just can't root for detroit. go shockers! love their arena too. looks and sounds like one hell of a place to play.

talksalot

As of 8:20, the HL is 3W (Valpo, UWM and YSt) and 4L (WSU, UDM, UIC and LUC)....

with two in-progress... Cleveland State up 6 on Western Ill with 10:00 to play, and UWGB down 13 to Drake with 14:00 to play

LaPorteAveApostle

well, wish i weren't right, but called it on the 4-5.  and swap Loyola for CSU and I'd have gotten them all right too.  (ok, maybe i've been spending too much time in the purgatory that is ESPN Sec 140)

shocked that the Summit contender went down at home.  Look at the box, too--nothing leaps out that "yeah no wonder they lost to The Cleve"--other than the fact that midgame they went from being up 11 to down 8 pretty much.

also wish Loyola had pulled it off, but since KSU is an opponent, doesn't hurt too much.  balances out IUPUI losing :)

what say those that watched live, say WSU-Det, etc?
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

vu72

I watched the WSU-Det game and Detroit was really
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 23, 2013, 08:57:43 PM
well, wish i weren't right, but called it on the 4-5.  and swap Loyola for CSU and I'd have gotten them all right too.  (ok, maybe i've been spending too much time in the purgatory that is ESPN Sec 140)

shocked that the Summit contender went down at home.  Look at the box, too--nothing leaps out that "yeah no wonder they lost to The Cleve"--other than the fact that midgame they went from being up 11 to down 8 pretty much.

also wish Loyola had pulled it off, but since KSU is an opponent, doesn't hurt too much.  balances out IUPUI losing :)

what say those that watched live, say WSU-Det, etc?


I watched the game and Detroit was really sloppy.  Did mount a comeback and got to within 1 or 2 then let it slip away.  Juwan Howard Jr didn't play so their very shallow bench was all the more such.  McCallum and Minnerath played very good games but WSU just had better, deeper talent.  They will make some noise come March and xould win the alley come their tourney. Creighton took it on the chin at St. Mary's.
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chef

Detroit spent most of the first half bickering with each other, and all of both halves playing no defense. Their offense was impressive as always.

valpotx

Sweet, hopefully they keep bickering with each other.  They are the Lakers of the HL.  If they are in sync, they can blow you out, but otherwise, they are screwed.
"Don't mess with Texas"

valpotx

Also, the WAC went 6-1 in BB play, to close to within 0.0037 of us.  That is the closest it has been for awhile, but should keep them from catching the HL in RPI
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wh

Quote from: valpotx on February 23, 2013, 10:29:22 PM
Also, the WAC went 6-1 in BB play, to close to within 0.0037 of us.  That is the closest it has been for awhile, but should keep them from catching the HL in RPI

Detroit still has to play Temple.  I wonder if a Detroit loss would cause us to fall below the WAC?

KL31NY

Quote from: vu72 on February 23, 2013, 09:27:22 PM
Juwan Howard Jr didn't play so their very shallow bench was all the more such.
Based off reports from examiner.com and the Wichita Eagle, Howard injured one his hips in practice this week. I could not find out which hip. I would like to hear that, though, because I found some stories from mlive.com about Howard's 2010-11 freshman year at WMU. In mid-January of that season, he injured his right hip and groin in a game against Ball State on a fall after a drive to the basket which resulted in a charge. Despite the injury and lack of practice time, he played through some pain in the team's next game four days later against Eastern Michigan. According to his UDM bio, he did not miss a game that season.
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Smj

HL did okay in the bracket buster....   4-3...   I NEVER thought UDM had much of a chance against Wichita.   I saw them play a couple games this year and they looked good at home.

I really wanted Wright State to beat the Purple Asses (damn autocorrect - meant Aces).  I hoped for a Valpo win but definitely was NOT thinking we would beat them that badly.

agibson

Quote from: wh on February 23, 2013, 10:43:42 PMDetroit still has to play Temple.  I wonder if a Detroit loss would cause us to fall below the WAC?

Probably not.  Detroit's just one team, and their loss at Wichita State left their RPI rank basically unchanged - probably a loss at Temple wouldn't do too much worse.

If the Bracketbuster disparity is repeated in the post-season, that might be enough to push us below the WAC.

agibson

Quote from: Smj on February 24, 2013, 07:20:20 AMHL did okay in the bracket buster....   4-3... 

Except that we have nine teams in the conference, and went 4-5.  Good to see UWM get a win on the road in non-conference play.

Smj

Quote from: agibson on February 24, 2013, 08:46:06 AM
Quote from: Smj on February 24, 2013, 07:20:20 AMHL did okay in the bracket buster....   4-3... 

Except that we have nine teams in the conference, and went 4-5.  Good to see UWM get a win on the road in non-conference play.

Interesting my CBS sports phone app does not show any other games?  (Good thing I am not a reporter)

LaPorteAveApostle

SMJ, i'm guessing one of those was the CSU-Western Ill game?  It wasn't on RPIForecast, meaning it wasn't on KenPom either...

Actually...real-time thinking happening--no it couldn't be because you missed two losses.

Do tell:  who doesn't rate?

You know, like people do with their crazy uncles--hide them in a spare room when company comes over--maybe that's what the HL was trying to do for BB yesterday...
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

wh

Quote from: Smj on February 24, 2013, 07:20:20 AM
HL did okay in the bracket buster....   4-3...   I NEVER thought UDM had much of a chance against Wichita.   I saw them play a couple games this year and they looked good at home.

I really wanted Wright State to beat the Purple Asses (damn autocorrect - meant Aces).  I hoped for a Valpo win but definitely was NOT thinking we would beat them that badly.

I think we need to give WSU a pass.  The fact that Arceneaux and Darling (their 2 leading scorers) didn't play changed the entire dynamic of the game.  The fact that WSU stayed within 12 without them is a pretty good accomplishment.   

LaPorteAveApostle

True, but Evansville's second leading scorer, Ned Cox, managed just 9 minutes before injuring his foot.

His replacement, the freshman DJ B., scored 18 in the second half to make up for it.  Guess it was Balentine's Day.

To paraphrase "The Rock"'s Sean Connery, "Losers talk about their best (players).  Winners go (to their bench) and (find) a prom queen to play guard."

This'll be the last time you hear me quote Billy D in support of him:

Quote"D.J. Balentine's a guy we really recruited very, very hard," said Wright State coach Billy Donlon. "JT Yoho said yes first. That was the last (scholarship) we had. I'm not saying we would have beaten Evansville for him, but we went all the way to the wire with D.J. Balentine. He's a terrific player."
...
"We have good enough players who played tonight to win that game," Donlon said. "It had nothing to do with Cole and Reggie not playing. I mean it. I also will not disrespect the effort with which the Evansville kids played with, and I also will remind you that their second-best player (Cox) played nine minutes."

(in the interest of fairness perhaps it should be noted that Yoho was no slouch either in 32 bench minutes, with 20 points, 11 rebounds, and 1 bottle of rum)

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/feb/23/balentine-scores-11-first-half-maintain-ues-lead-o/
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LaPorteAveApostle

Quote from: wh on February 23, 2013, 10:43:42 PMDetroit still has to play Temple.  I wonder if a Detroit loss would cause us to fall below the WAC?

Quote from: agibson on February 24, 2013, 08:45:13 AMProbably not.  Detroit's just one team, and their loss at Wichita State left their RPI rank basically unchanged - probably a loss at Temple wouldn't do too much worse.

well @#% i schadened my freude

WAC .5015
HL .5014

http://www.rpiforecast.com/confrpi.html

http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/conf_Men.html
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agibson

Ouch. 

We've climbed back above them later on this evening, at least.  We're at 0.5010, they're down to 0.5004.

Could come down to a coin toss.  Or post-season play.