2015 MBB PRESEASON AWARDS

VULB#62 · October 14, 2015, 01:50:18 PM

They are out. Alec is 1st team. Vashil, Tevonn, Darien 2nd team. Felder POY.

VALPO
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8

HORIZON
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll

a3uge · October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM

<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>

Still, those 7 people that didn't vote Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.

wh · October 14, 2015, 02:43:50 PM

Quote from: a3uge on October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>

Still, those 7 people that didn't voted Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.

Everyone back from last year's conf. Season/ tournament champs, 2 new players who could start for any other team in the league, and a 7-1 3-star IN HS All-Star freshman. Oh, and 4 of the top 10 players in the pre-season poll.

No one could be that stupid as to vote for anyone other than Valpo. It has to be a handful of clowns who think that showing childlike loyalty to "their" program should trump their obligation to use their brain. Proof positive of a longstanding management principle that 10% of people in every profession are laggards and losers.

covufan · October 14, 2015, 03:13:39 PM

Quote from: a3uge on October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>

Still, those 7 people that didn't vote Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.

7 out of 43 voters?? If Vashil were not coming back I could understand having 16% voting for some other team. Does the Detroit voter know something about a change in HC in the next few weeks?

vu72 · October 14, 2015, 08:11:28 PM

Quote from: wh on October 14, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: a3uge on October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>

Still, those 7 people that didn't voted Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.

Everyone back from last year's conf. Season/ tournament champs, 2 new players who could start for any other team in the league, and a 7-1 3-star IN HS All-Star freshman. Oh, and 4 of the top 10 players in the pre-season poll.

No one could be that stupid as to vote for anyone other than Valpo. It has to be a handful of clowns who think that showing childlike loyalty to "their" program should trump their obligation to use their brain. Proof positive of a longstanding management principle that 10% of people in every profession are laggards and losers.

Couldn't agree more. This is a pre-season poll. How can you vote against a team that returns all starters? Even if you thin the incoming talent will make their team better, it is totally unproven. The only known fact is that Valpo is the reigning champ and returns everyone. The poll thus becomes a joke.

historyman · October 14, 2015, 09:57:59 PM

Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2015, 01:50:18 PMThey are out. Alec is 1st team. Vashil, Tevonn, Darien 2nd team. Elder POY. VALPO http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8 HORIZON http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll

You mean F(oul)elder.

VULB#62 · October 15, 2015, 09:47:12 AM

Quote from: historyman on October 14, 2015, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2015, 01:50:18 PMThey are out. Alec is 1st team. Vashil, Tevonn, Darien 2nd team. Felder POY. VALPO http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8 HORIZON http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll

You mean F(oul)elder.

Yep. Fixed it.

Pgmado · October 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM

Everything you need to know about Horizon League Media Day

http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/thoughts-from-horizon-league-media-day/article_4f9aaf5a-7370-11e5-b6ab-aba7e0fe287e.html

vu72 · October 15, 2015, 04:32:32 PM

Quote from: Pgmado on October 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
Everything you need to know about Horizon League Media Day

http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/thoughts-from-horizon-league-media-day/article_4f9aaf5a-7370-11e5-b6ab-aba7e0fe287e.html

So who starts for the Crusaders? Oh, perhaps a better question at this point--who are the five most talented players on our squad?

wh · November 12, 2015, 01:51:54 PM

From Commish:

http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/post/4849

Reposting this little aggregate table on Horizon predictions here at the bottom of the thread. Basically, a team gets 10 points for first, 9 for second, etc. down to one point for a last place prediction. Where a publication did not predict the entire standings, I gave all the unranked teams 0 points, and then the last ranked team 1 point, next to last ranked team 2 points, etc.

Poll/Team   Valpo   OU   Mil.   UD   WSU   GB   CSU   UIC   YSU   NKU
Horizon League Poll   10   9   8   7   6   5   4   3   2   1
Blue Ribbon   10   8   9   7   5   6   4   2   3   1
Athlon   10   9   7   6   3   8   5   4   2   1
Lindys   10   9   8   6   7   5   4   2   3   1
ESPN   3   2   1   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
Ken Pomeroy   10   7   5   6   9   8   4   1   2   3
NBC Sports   10   9   8   6   7   5   3   4   2   1
Sporting News   9   10   7   8   4   6   5   3   2   1
CBS Sports   10   9   7   6   8   5   4   2   1   3
USA Today   10   8   9   7   5   6   4   3   2   1
Catch & Shoot   10   9   8   6   7   5   3   4   2   1
High Def Hoops   10   8   9   6   7   5   1   4   2   3
Starting @ Floorboards   10   9   8   7   4   5   6   3   1   2
Sports Illustrated   10   9   6   8   5   7   4   2   1   3
Sagarin   10   9   7   6   4   8   5   3   2   1
Sports Madness   3   2   1   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
Total   145   126   108    92    81    84    56    40    27    23

That gives us a "consensus" order of finish as of 11/12 of
1. Valparaiso
2. Oakland
3. Milwaukee
4. Detroit
5. Green Bay
6. Wright State
7. Cleveland State
8. UIC
9. Youngstown State
10. Northern Kentucky

Consensus All-Conference (2 points for 1st team selection, 1 point second team)
Alec Peters, Valparaiso (POY) - 16
Kahlil Felder, Oakland - 16
Matt Tiby, Milwaukee - 14
Paris Bass, Detroit - 14
JT Yoho, Wright State - 9

Bobby Hain, Youngstown - 7
Jordan Fouse, Green Bay - 6
Vashil Fernandez, Valparaiso - 5
Tevonn Walker, Valparaiso - 3
Joe Thomasson, Wright State - 2
Akeem Springs, Milwaukee - 2
Jalen Hayes, Oakland - 2
Darien Walker, Valparaiso - 1

Read more: http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/post/4849#ixzz3rJBX6W4C