NCAA Seeding (Updated through 3/16)

[ValpoHoops]

Just trying to pull this all together in one place...I will update as the week goes on (I'll try to update as games end, as well as after ALL games are done for the day to get an accurate "end of day" RPI). Records are D1 games only.

I included the "majors" in here on the off chance that an awful team makes a crazy run.


Updated through all games on 3/16

Based strictly on RPI, there are currently 15 teams with "locked in" bids sitting below Valpo (Currently RPI #58) on the S-Curve, though several are very close. Remember, only auto bid teams will affect this number, all at-large teams will fall ahead of Valpo on the S-Curve. All teams remaining to play their championship games (4 conferences) would fall ahead of Valpo on the S-Curve.

There MAY still be a chance that we move up or down a slot as there are four teams between 56-62.

PREDICTION: 13 SEED


To earn a 12: Need to be ahead of 18 teams
To earn a 13: Need to be ahead of 14 teams
To earn a 14: Need to be ahead of 10 teams
To earn a 15: Need to be ahead of 6 teams

Conference	Championship Date	Auto Bid	RPI Rank
Mountain West	March 16	New Mexico (29-5)	2
Big East	March 16	Louisville	3
Big 12	March 16	Kansas (29-5)	5
West Coast	March 11	Gonzaga (30-2)	7
Conference USA	March 16	Memphis (30-4)	12
Ohio Valley	March 10	Belmont (24-6)	17
Missouri Valley	March 10	Creighton (27-7)	25
MAC	March 16	Akron (25-6)	43
Pac 12	March 16	Oregon (26-8)	47
Patriot	March 13	Bucknell (27-5)	51
WAC	March 16	New Mexico State (23-10)	56
Horizon	March 12	Valparaiso (25-7)	58
Southern	March 11	Davidson (25-7)	61
Summit	March 12	South Dakota State	62
Big Sky	March 16	Montana (22-6)	66
Southland	March 16	Northwestern State (19-8)	79
Ivy League	N/A	Harvard (18-9)	93
Atlantic Sun	March 9	Florida Gulf Coast (22-10)	94
MAAC	March 11	Iona (20-13)	97
Big West	March 16	Pacific (20-12)	100
America East	March 16	Albany (24-10)	130
Sun Belt	March 11	Western Kentucky (19-15)	150
Northeast	March 12	LIU-Brooklyn	179
SWAC	March 16	Southern (20-9)	180
Colonial	March 11	James Madison (20-14)	182
MEAC	March 16	North Carolina A&T (18-16)	213
Big South	March 10	Liberty (12-20)	288
---------------	---------------	-----------------------------	-------
ACC	March 17 (ESPN/12:00 PM)	Miami (FL)/North Carolina	4/16
Atlantic 10	March 17 (CBS/12:00 PM)	St. Louis/VCU	21/24
SEC	March 17 (ABC/12:00 PM)	Florida/Mississippi	6/50
Big Ten	March 17 (CBS/2:30 PM)	Ohio State/Wisconsin	11/28

[LaPorteAveApostle]

Monday March 11
Southern   #1 Davidson (67) vs. #3 College of Charleston (131) 7 PM (ESPN2)   CUMONG COUGARZ!!!   
Colonial   #1 Northeastern (154) vs. #3 James Madison (190) 7 PM (NBC Sports)
Sun Belt   #4 Florida International (109) vs. #6 Western Kentucky (166) 7 PM (ESPN)      
WCC     #1 Gonzaga (10) vs. #2 St. Mary's (31) 9 PM (ESPN)
MAAC      #4 Iona (100) vs. #6 Manhattan (180) 9 PM (ESPN2)

[Kyle321n]

Well CoC sure didn't help.

[LaPorteAveApostle]

I found an amazing new site that will feed every seed junkie's habit until Selection Sunday:

Bracket Matrix.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

It was bound to happen.  The site cross-references at least NINETY-TWO HYPOTHETICAL BRACKETS and averages the seed.  You can even click on the top row and view each of them individually, but why would you want to?

Right now we are the lowest of the 13ths, at 13.38 average, but just .01 behind our new nemesis Mr. Stephen F. Austin.  Just a few upsets from a 12 seed!

[valpocleveland]

We need a couple upsets in the WAC. Denver, NM St, and L Tech all have comparable RPI's to us. There are a bunch of teams grouped together in the 50's and 60's in RPI including Denver, NM St, L Tech, Akron, Bucknell, and SF Austin. A couple of these teams have a "signature" win (SF @ Oklahoma, Akron vs. Midd Tenn St, Bucknell vs. LaSalle) but we don't have anything that sets us apart from the rest. I will continue to cheer for the upsets (Nebraska for the Big Ten Title!) but I think we end up a 13 when all is said and done. Honestly, if we are the highest 13 or the lowest 12 will it make a difference? We would still be in the 4/13, 5/12 pod of the bracket. We either have to beat a 4 or 5 in the opening round followed by a 5 or 4 in the second round.

[LaPorteAveApostle]

Honestly, if we are the highest 13 or the lowest 12 will it make a difference? We would still be in the 4/13, 5/12 pod of the bracket. We either have to beat a 4 or 5 in the opening round followed by a 5 or 4 in the second round.

A valid question--not a huge difference, but a difference nonetheless.  Imagine if, in 1998 we had played instead:
--also-4th seeded Maryland (we saw a year later how that turned out, albeit under different circumstances)
--also-4th seeded Michigan St (we saw two years later how that turned out, albeit under more different circumstances)
--5th seeded Syracuse or 4th seeded New Mexico?  No easy outs there.

It's going to come down to individual matchups, of course.

[crusadermoe]

That chart shows average seeds is awesome.   

If it predicts right, we get a #13 and a likely trip to Kansas City to play KState or Okla St.   

Ohio State in Dayton might be best draw for possible Valpo fan travel.     Please not Michigan.

[StlVUFan]

Prime time in Kansas City would be perfect for me.

[a3uge]

http://bracketmatrix.com/

OOFFFF got bumped down to a 14 seed with New Mexico St getting a 13 seed. Might need some help, but I believe there's still tons of room for help.

New Mexico St has to win twice.

Akron has to win twice without their best player.

Stephen F. Austin has to win twice.

So these teams have to go 6-0 for Valpo to be in danger of being a 14 seed.

[LaPorteAveApostle]

On the plus side we are now a 12 to two prognosticators, and that hadn't happened yet:
http://thecatchandshoot.com/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-2/
http://herestotheacc.blogspot.com/

[bmlvu97]

Interesting that one of the blogs that has Valpo as a 12 has them playing Butler... very very interesting...

Brian

[SanityLost17]

I am just going to reiterate what I said just before the home game against Detroit.  "If we win out, we are a 12 seed.  If we lose one, we are a 13 seed.  If we lose two, we are a 14 seed."   Well, we lost against Detroit, so we are GOING to be a 13 seed.  had we won that game we would have been a 12 seed. Had we lost at GB, we would have been a 14. 

[crusadermoe]

Last Lunardi bracket had us #13 in San Jose playing Arizona #4.    Wisconsin seeded #5 in same bracket.    That is a remotely possible for VU to the Sweet 16.

I would LOVE to see Wisconsin beat Indiana today and move up to a #4 so we could draw them.   They are slow enough for us to beat them.  Wisconsin might have risen to a #4 already after beating Michigan but doubtful.

[a3uge]

Last Lunardi bracket had us #13 in San Jose playing Arizona #4.    Wisconsin seeded #5 in same bracket.    That is a remotely possible for VU to the Sweet 16.

I would LOVE to see Wisconsin beat Indiana today and move up to a #4 so we could draw them.   They are slow enough for us to beat them.  Wisconsin might have risen to a #4 already after beating Michigan but doubtful.

Wisconsin is wright State but more over the top. They're the most painful boring team to watch and play very fundamental basketball. They are very beatable due to their poor offense, and they don't take advantage off forcing turnovers. They slow the game down and play excellent defense and limit their own mistakes.

[talksalot]

I was in Tempe when we played AZ in the dance... Tony Vilcinskis and gang going down in a blaze... in the last game of day 2... Not a fan of the placement geographically ... but I can't complain about the pairing... I believe Washington would be our last PAC 10/12 opponent...  I really hope Auburn Hills, Dayton or Lexington... and spousal permission...

[ValpoHoops]

and spousal permission...

"...uh...I have to go see a man about a horse. See you in a few days!"
<JB runs out door to already running and packed car, throws it in reverse then screams down the street>

[LaPorteAveApostle]

"...uh...I have to go see a man about a horse. See you in a few days!"

literally laughing.  thank you.

[crusadermoe]

Lunardi now has Valpo in San Jose playing #4 Marquette.     

Other #4s are K-State, Michigan, and Wisconsin.      I got my wish for Wisconsin to beat the Hoosiers, now if we can just draw them for the first round........!

[vuweathernerd]

If anybody wants to chat about the seedlings or bracket in general, I'll be in the chat room during the show.

[VULB#62]

USAToday updated:

Valpo #14 (was #13) v. #3 Michigan -- Auburn Hills

NM State #13 v. #4 Marquette -- San Jose

« Last Edit: Today at 08:05:47 AM by VULB#62 »

[humbleopinion]

If anybody wants to chat about the seedlings or bracket in general, I'll be in the chat room during the show.

It's nice to know that someone else on the forum shares my dual interest of gardening and VU basketball.

[vuweathernerd]

If anybody wants to chat about the seedlings or bracket in general, I'll be in the chat room during the show.

It's nice to know that someone else on the forum shares my dual interest of gardening and VU basketball.

Darn autocorrect. I didn't even see that... That's what I get for trying to post that from my iPad.

[vu84v2]

Would love to see Valpo play K-State in Kansas City (4 vs. 13).  It is realistic, though I could see SD State getting the matchup with K-State in Kansas City.  K-State is a far better matchup for Valpo than Michigan or Wisconsin.

[StlVUFan]

Would love to see Valpo play K-State in Kansas City (4 vs. 13).

IN PRIME TIME

[LaPorteAveApostle]

It's nice to know that someone else on the forum shares my dual interest of gardening and VU basketball.

THANK YOU so much for catching that.  my eye just autocorrected too.  my day has been made.