3/21, 12:15pm ET: NCAA First Game: (14) Valpo v. (3) Michigan State Game Thread

Zoltar · March 17, 2013, 05:15:55 PM

Should be an easy win.

valpo04 · March 17, 2013, 05:20:45 PM

Thursday, Auburn Hills, MI

truth219 · March 17, 2013, 05:23:42 PM

Your crazy dude michigan state is a good basketball team...they beat kansas, wisconsin, and michigan. To say that's an easy win for valpo is really odd

milanmiracle · March 17, 2013, 05:24:34 PM

I could think of a worse matchup, but it'd be hard....

bbtds · March 17, 2013, 05:27:53 PM

Quote from: Zoltar on March 17, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
Should be an easy win.

Easy win for who? Are you a Spartan?

Zoltar · March 17, 2013, 05:31:43 PM

I saw Michigan St play Wisconsin and I wasn't impress with Michigan St guards. I think we match up well.

LaPorteAveApostle · March 17, 2013, 05:35:16 PM

Quote from: Zoltar on March 17, 2013, 05:31:43 PMI think we match up well.

I do too, Appling/Buggs, Dawson/Broekhoff, etc., but to answer the question in the OP

THEY DARN WELL BETTER BE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE A FOURTEEN SEED LET ALONE NOT THE TOP ONE OF THEM.

Valposter · March 17, 2013, 05:36:13 PM

Tom Izzo is Mr. March Madness........and at home no less. Horrible draw for us. When is the last time MSU has lost in the first round in Izzo's tenure.....ever? I think the NCAA really punished us for how we looked in the HL tournament combined with a lack of signature wins. I don't agree with it. I think we got hosed.

LaPorteAveApostle · March 17, 2013, 05:39:16 PM

It's a horrible draw in the sense that we deserved a 12 more than a 14...and should solidly have been a 13.

I'm thinking they thought they were 'doing us a favor' by giving us the closest region.

...bbbbbuut it's also REALLY close to michigan state.

eh. i still think they're beatable. let's hear it for matchups.

milanmiracle · March 17, 2013, 05:41:59 PM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 17, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: Zoltar on March 17, 2013, 05:31:43 PMI think we match up well.

I do too, Appling/Buggs, Dawson/Broekhoff, etc., but to answer the question in the OP

THEY DARN WELL BETTER BE BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE A FOURTEEN SEED LET ALONE NOT THE TOP ONE OF THEM.

Do you feel strongly about that? I highly doubt that Michigan State was the lowest 3 seed, as they sent them to Auburn Hills for their first round and kept them in the midwest region.

vuweathernerd · March 17, 2013, 05:42:16 PM

this game terrifies me. about the worst possible thing that could've happened was insulting us with a 14 seed like this. if we play anything like we did on tuesday night, we'll get run out of the state of michigan, not just the palace. everybody is going to have to be on their game for us to even keep this close. their post play will outman us, i hate to say.

vuweathernerd · March 17, 2013, 05:46:51 PM

Quote from: Valposter on March 17, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Tom Izzo is Mr. March Madness........and at home no less. Horrible draw for us. When is the last time MSU has lost in the first round in Izzo's tenure.....ever? I think the NCAA really punished us for how we looked in the HL tournament combined with a lack of signature wins. I don't agree with it. I think we got hosed.

amen to all of this. absolutely HOSED. the other 14s are harvard, davidson, and northwestern state. are you ****ing kidding me??? northwestern state? we could beat ANY of those others, but to be on the same line as northwestern state is a huge insult to me.

humbleopinion · March 17, 2013, 05:52:01 PM

Let's hope they at least want Michigan St to play in front of an evening audience, so more of us can watch the game.

LaPorteAveApostle · March 17, 2013, 05:55:39 PM

Quote from: vuweathernerd on March 17, 2013, 05:46:51 PMthe other 14s are harvard, davidson, and northwestern state. are you ****ing kidding me???

well, i think we're easily better than all with the possible exception of davidson.

who are the 13s?

milanmiracle · March 17, 2013, 05:58:12 PM

Actually I'll be in the minority here, but I don't think Valpo got hosed with a 14 seed. They didn't beat anybody. The best win was Detroit? Really? 1 win vs. the RPI top 100 and you're complaining about being a 14 seed? I think it was fair and I am not remotely surprised. I have been much more surprised if they would have received a 13 seed.

vuweathernerd · March 17, 2013, 05:59:11 PM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 17, 2013, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: vuweathernerd on March 17, 2013, 05:46:51 PMthe other 14s are harvard, davidson, and northwestern state. are you ****ing kidding me???

well, i think we're easily better than all with the possible exception of davidson.

who are the 13s?

new mexico state, boise st/la salle play-in, south dakota state, and montana.

milanmiracle · March 17, 2013, 06:02:25 PM

Quote from: vuweathernerd on March 17, 2013, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: Valposter on March 17, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Tom Izzo is Mr. March Madness........and at home no less. Horrible draw for us. When is the last time MSU has lost in the first round in Izzo's tenure.....ever? I think the NCAA really punished us for how we looked in the HL tournament combined with a lack of signature wins. I don't agree with it. I think we got hosed.

amen to all of this. absolutely HOSED. the other 14s are harvard, davidson, and northwestern state. are you ****ing kidding me??? northwestern state? we could beat ANY of those others, but to be on the same line as northwestern state is a huge insult to me.

Northwestern State has 3 wins over the RPI top 100 vs. ~~Valpo's 1~~ Edit:2. Um...

govalpogo · March 17, 2013, 06:04:32 PM

Well friends...the world has no expectations of us...shock the nation Valpo!

valpo04 · March 17, 2013, 06:06:05 PM

Quote from: milanmiracle on March 17, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: vuweathernerd on March 17, 2013, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: Valposter on March 17, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Tom Izzo is Mr. March Madness........and at home no less. Horrible draw for us. When is the last time MSU has lost in the first round in Izzo's tenure.....ever? I think the NCAA really punished us for how we looked in the HL tournament combined with a lack of signature wins. I don't agree with it. I think we got hosed.

amen to all of this. absolutely HOSED. the other 14s are harvard, davidson, and northwestern state. are you ****ing kidding me??? northwestern state? we could beat ANY of those others, but to be on the same line as northwestern state is a huge insult to me.

Northwestern State has 3 wins over the RPI top 100 vs. Valpo's 1. Um...

Valpo has 2: Detroit and EKU. 13 seed Montana has...0.

Northwestern State has an RPI of 82, BPI of 127
Valpo: 59/61

Hosed.

LaPorteAveApostle · March 17, 2013, 06:08:54 PM

Quote from: milanmiracle on March 17, 2013, 06:02:25 PMNorthwestern State has 3 wins over the RPI top 100 vs. Valpo's 1. Um...

Care to explain how you get 1 out of 2?

Besides, if 2 of said (NW St) wins are over the same school...

In conclusion, they aren't ahead of us anyway. They're lower on the S-curve.

milanmiracle · March 17, 2013, 06:10:11 PM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 17, 2013, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: milanmiracle on March 17, 2013, 06:02:25 PMNorthwestern State has 3 wins over the RPI top 100 vs. Valpo's 1. Um...

Care to explain how you get 1 out of 2?

Besides, if 2 of said (NW St) wins are over the same school...

In conclusion, they aren't ahead of us anyway. They're lower on the S-curve.

Because I can't count.

vuweathernerd · March 17, 2013, 06:11:15 PM

Quote from: milanmiracle on March 17, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: vuweathernerd on March 17, 2013, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: Valposter on March 17, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Tom Izzo is Mr. March Madness........and at home no less. Horrible draw for us. When is the last time MSU has lost in the first round in Izzo's tenure.....ever? I think the NCAA really punished us for how we looked in the HL tournament combined with a lack of signature wins. I don't agree with it. I think we got hosed.

amen to all of this. absolutely HOSED. the other 14s are harvard, davidson, and northwestern state. are you ****ing kidding me??? northwestern state? we could beat ANY of those others, but to be on the same line as northwestern state is a huge insult to me.

Northwestern State has 3 wins over the RPI top 100 vs. Valpo's 1. Um...

two of those came against the same team, stephen f austin. and the other was louisiana tech. forgive me if i'm not impressed. oh, and none of those 3 wins came against teams ranked closer than about 15 spots behind valpo.

chef · March 17, 2013, 06:11:47 PM

Valpo had 2 wins vs the top 70 - Detroit and EKU, and 7 wins VS the top 150, Montana had 2 wins VS the top 150. When compared w/Montana, Valpo did get hosed.

LaPorteAveApostle · March 17, 2013, 06:15:25 PM

lol to the can't count.

take a gander at this shot from bracketmatrix. the seed is actual...the number after the conference is the average seed on the 95 brackets they survey.

we got screwed a little--not as much as oregon. then again, the pac-12 blew goats this year.

the only unjustifiable jump is montana. which sucks because syracuse is the only team I'd rather play in this area than MSU.

i'm slowly getting over it because I hate msu anyway.

AND HEY GUESS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEATEN 2 MSUs THIS YEAR LET'S MAKE IT THREEVE

vuweathernerd · March 17, 2013, 06:22:51 PM

It's too bad the msu this time around isn't Minot state. We'd steamroll them.