GB Coach Wardle Under Investigation

historyman · April 20, 2013, 03:46:09 PM

Quote from: VULB#62 on April 20, 2013, 08:15:18 AMNo question the negative publicity following on the heals of the Rutgers fiasco did UWGB no good.

I truly believe that because of the Rutgers fiasco that the UWGB parent decided it was the correct time to expose the situation at Green Bay.

VULB#62 · April 21, 2013, 09:24:31 AM

I agree.

valpopal · April 29, 2013, 10:43:37 PM

Specifics of the complaints made public, and they aren't pretty:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20130429/GPG020101/304290404/Bross-outlines-complaints-against-Wardle

wh · April 29, 2013, 11:09:43 PM

Such juvenile behavior by a college coach. Green Bay needs to go a different direction.

classof2014 · April 29, 2013, 11:23:12 PM

If this is true... this is way worse than I initially thought. I think GB will have a new head coach next season and Wardle will never be a basketball coach again.

If these are true... what a pitiful example of human kind.

FWalum · April 30, 2013, 12:03:10 AM

Crazy, I always told our players not to have sex.... I don't think it made much difference.

valpotx · April 30, 2013, 12:45:02 AM

That does sound pretty terrible. I am confused in regards to an Advisor telling him that his coach was blocking him from taking a class. I had both athletic and academic scholarship money, and nothing coach could have said would have prevented me from taking any classes that met our practice/game schedules. I think that Advisor needs to be looked at as well, as this guy was also a walk-on, without the obligation that comes from an athletic scholarship...

wh · April 30, 2013, 02:24:49 AM

It takes the "student" right out of "student athlete," doesn't it? Can you imagine Bryce telling one of our players that? Or Loyola telling Ben Averkamp that he shouldn't take pre-med courses because they're too hard and might interfere with basketball? And to think he said that to a walk-on is just crazy. Where did this guy come from again? Who were his mentors?

VULB#62 · April 30, 2013, 05:42:15 AM

Tom Crean at Marquette

FWalum · April 30, 2013, 07:24:42 AM

Quote from: wh on April 30, 2013, 02:24:49 AMWhere did this guy come from again? Who were his mentors?

Why do I get the feeling that you knew the answer to that question before you asked it

LaPorteAveApostle · April 30, 2013, 08:36:05 AM

...except maybe he did, since he kept this kid as a walk-on while promising him scholarships. I had no idea that you could withhold transfer approval of a non-scholarship player! Ridiculous. The NCAA just keeps finding more sharks to jump.

Come to Valpo if you want a good coach and a Lutheran institution.

Note also that it is the #1 story on the GBPG website, especially remarkable just after the draft and the Packers are relegated to nos. 3-5...

covufan · April 30, 2013, 01:10:42 PM

Quote from: valpopal on April 29, 2013, 10:43:37 PM
Specifics of the complaints made public, and they aren't pretty:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20130429/GPG020101/304290404/Bross-outlines-complaints-against-Wardle

Even if only 50% is true, it is still damaging to the coach and school.

vuweathernerd · April 30, 2013, 04:22:43 PM

i find it intriguing that some of these incidents happened during practices, yet alec brown is refuting them. at the very least, it should give a moment of pause before we rush to judgment. it could be that brown is afraid of retribution, but if it's true that wouldn't matter because wardle wouldn't be around for the upcoming season anyway.

motowntitan · April 30, 2013, 07:36:28 PM

Myron Metcalf now has an article that is on the front headline page (not just ncaam) on ESPn as of 8:28 EST.

My take is the following:

I am always a "three sides to every story" (or four, if you believe Kurosawa 8)) and let's let all of the facts get out.

That said the most interesting tidbit from the GBPG article is where Wardle says " I cannot comment on the specific allegations under federal privacy laws. I can say the version of events you are reporting is inaccurate. I have fully cooperated with the independent investigator, as have our players and coaches. I fully expect the eyewitnesses to these allegations you are reporting will contradict the version you are reporting."

So you can't comment, but then immediately make a comment that contradicts the story? Either deny or don't comment.

classof2014 · May 01, 2013, 05:34:25 PM

Both Sykes and Brown are claiming that Wardle never saw or knew about what was going on with Bross and Cougill.

Cougill claims they didn't see the mistreatment.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/01/ex-green-bay-forward-brennan-cougill-supports-teammates-allegations/

Honestly, I'm taking the sides of Cougill and Bross. a) Why would both Bross and Cougill make up such stories and tell their mothers about it? b) Both Brown and Sykes are by far the two best players on the GB squad and Wardle doesn't want to do anything to lose them, thus playing favorites.

I'm sure what we've heard from Bross and Cougill aren't the full story, nor do I think we'll ever know what fully happened. But if it's true about Bross, which I am leaning towards it being closer to the truth than Sykes and Brown backing up Wardle. Then I believe GB will be in the market for a new head coach and Wardle will be scanning the classifieds of the local newspaper.

valpotx · May 01, 2013, 06:13:52 PM

I highly doubt that Bross would make up a story in the national media about crapping his pants, and the resulting treatment. What kind of deranged person would make that up, knowing full well that embarrassment would follow?

dylanrocks · May 01, 2013, 06:29:32 PM

If what I read about Ryan is true, I'd like to express my deep admiration for his religious convictions.

In the face of chastisement and ridicule, it takes a strong man to stand up for what he believes in.

If we don't have the courage of our convictions, what on earth do we have?

FWalum · May 01, 2013, 08:16:24 PM

Quote from: dylanrocks on May 01, 2013, 06:29:32 PM
If what I read about Ryan is true, I'd like to express my deep admiration for his religious convictions.

In the face of chastisement and ridicule, it takes a strong man to stand up for what he believes in.

If we don't have the courage of our convictions, what on earth do we have?

Nicely said dylanrocks.

wh · May 01, 2013, 08:35:20 PM

Quote from: FWalum on May 01, 2013, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: dylanrocks on May 01, 2013, 06:29:32 PM
If what I read about Ryan is true, I'd like to express my deep admiration for his religious convictions.

In the face of chastisement and ridicule, it takes a strong man to stand up for what he believes in.

If we don't have the courage of our convictions, what on earth do we have?
Nicely said dylanrocks.

Excellent point. He may be a basketball walk-on, but he's a star in the game of life.

covufan · May 02, 2013, 11:03:47 AM

Quote from: wh on May 01, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: FWalum on May 01, 2013, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: dylanrocks on May 01, 2013, 06:29:32 PM
If what I read about Ryan is true, I'd like to express my deep admiration for his religious convictions.

In the face of chastisement and ridicule, it takes a strong man to stand up for what he believes in.

If we don't have the courage of our convictions, what on earth do we have?
Nicely said dylanrocks.

Excellent point. He may be a basketball walk-on, but he's a star in the game of life.

Excellent statements!

historyman · May 03, 2013, 02:39:59 AM

Quote from: covufan on May 02, 2013, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: wh on May 01, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: FWalum on May 01, 2013, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: dylanrocks on May 01, 2013, 06:29:32 PMIf what I read about Ryan is true, I'd like to express my deep admiration for his religious convictions. In the face of chastisement and ridicule, it takes a strong man to stand up for what he believes in. If we don't have the courage of our convictions, what on earth do we have?
Nicely said dylanrocks.
Excellent point. He may be a basketball walk-on, but he's a star in the game of life.
Excellent statements!

Excellent statement by dylanrocks! Excellent statement by FWAlum! Excellent statement by wh!
Extremely excellent statement by covufan for recognizing all three previous excellent statements! This board is so great at recognizing excellent play and evaluating excellent comments!

And that Ryan Bross guy ain't too bad either for standing up in the face of immense pressure and showing courage against a tyrant.

classof2014 · May 24, 2013, 03:57:31 PM

Wardle is still gonna be the face of GB basketball for the future. I can say that I am surprised that he is to keep his job.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-05-24/wisconsin-green-bay-coach-brian-wardle-investigation-keeping-his-job-mike-rice

LaPorteAveApostle · May 24, 2013, 04:11:26 PM

ridiculous. sweeping them will feel even better this year.

dylanrocks · May 24, 2013, 06:10:34 PM

I too am quite surprised that Wardle was permitted to stay given the current climate of sensitivity.

I certainly wouldn't want a son of mine to play for a man who tells him to have premarital intercourse.

Well, at least there's a disciplinary letter being placed in his file.

historyman · May 24, 2013, 06:59:13 PM

I pray for the student athletes such as Ryan Bross, Brennan Cougill, etc. because of the damage Wardle has done to them.

With only 9 members on the UWGB men's basketball team, it will be interesting, just like the Valpo women's team, whether their coach can fill out the roster for this coming season.