Valpo Opponents' Schedule & Results 2013-14

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Evansville  59 
Ohio  81

Western Carolina  77 
Wright State  85

Marshall  78
East Tennessee State  88 

James Madison  53
Richmond  68

Ball State  55
Cleveland State  78

Detroit  65
South Florida  60

Austin Peay  88
Youngstown State  86 

Milwaukee  84
MO-Kansas City  79

Murray State  64
St. Mary's  89

Green Bay  67
Tulsa  59                (at Anchorage, AK)

[talksalot]

I wish James Madison and Murray State would snap out of it!  Anyway... another milestone on the brink...thanks to a couple of huge blowouts this year

Since we started playing at a D-1 level in 1977... Total Points

Valparaiso 75,673
Opponent  75.667     Difference of 6   that's (.0055) points per game over 1,082 games.

We have never been over the hump since turning D1...(we lost our first 5 games that year by a combined 74 points).  Watching parts of the Cleveland State game against Ball State, we have a chance to move ahead of the curve on Wednesday night in Muncie.

OH, several people asked if the 117-108 game on Friday was a school record for points in a game at 225...From the Record Book....quick answer:  no.
Consider that the 3-point field goal line was not established until 1986.

At Ball State 2/19/64  Cardinals won 117-116... total points 233
Muhlenberg  12/6/68  Valpo won 138-89... total points 227
Wheaton 3/1/68  Valpo won 121-104 ... total points 225


VU Games where both teams hit 100: 
Ball State 2/19/64 L 117-116
At Indiana State 1/5/66  L 113-100
St. Procopius 12/1/66 W 105-101
at Wheaton 3/2/68  L 106-105
Wheaton 3/1/69  W 121-104
at Western Illinois 3/1/93 L  104-100  (OT)
at Troy State 1/15/96   L  115-104
at Oakland 12/21/10 W 103-102
Mercer 11/29/13  L 117-108 (3OT)

NCAA Record... Troy State over Devry 258-141   1/12/92

The highest points-per-game average for a season was 1965-66, under Bartow, the average was 94.71 points per game.... we are at 86.00 this year so far.  Some of this may be the new "officiating" where they are trying to get more offense, but to go back in time, here are the results from that 1965-66 season, where no player had a shot they didn't like.

Dec. 4  Wheaton  W 100-80
Dec. 7  Hope  W 104-85
Dec. 10 Capital ! W 112-59
Dec. 1  Luther !  W 120-85
Dec. 14  at  Wabash  W  90-69
Dec. 16  Alberta  W  120-60
Dec. 18  at DePauw  L  80-77
Dec. 22  Purdue  W  114-96 
Dec. 30  at  Washington (Mo.)  W  70-59
Jan. 3  at Wheaton W 111-60
Jan. 5  at Indiana State  L  113-100
Jan. 8  Evansville  W  83-73
Jan. 12  Butler  W  89-83
Jan. 22  Washington (Mo.)  W 125-92
Jan. 26  at Ball State  W  89-76
Jan. 29  Saint Joseph's (Ind.)  W 72-65
Feb. 2  DePauw  W  110-71
Feb. 5  Indiana State L  101-86
Feb. 9  at Evansville L 95-88
Feb. 12 at Butler L 93-91
Feb. 16  at  Air Force  L 98-69
Feb. 19 Ball State  W  112-87
Feb. 22  at Saint Joseph's (Ind.) L 98-69
Feb. 26 Wabash  W 109-77
Mar  1  at Drake L 78-74
Mar  4 vs. Saint Procopius #W  107-76  (NCAA Midwest Regional)
Mar  5 at North Dakota #L  112-82  (NCAA Midwest Regional)


All in all, a pretty impressive season.

[LaPorteAveApostle]

Our team looks like a Pro.copious points are being scored.

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12/1/2013 Sunday

Wichita State  70
Saint Louis  65

[talksalot]

 

Our team looks like a Pro.copious points are being scored.

St. Procopius College
In 1897 St. Procopius College (destined to become Benedictine University in Lisle, Illinois) began classes in the building immediately to the east of the rectory.   

Benedictine University was founded in Chicago as St. Procopius College by the Benedictine monks of St. Procopius Abbey in 1887. It secured a charter from the state of Illinois in 1890. The College was founded to educate men of Czech and Slovak descent, and most students were of Czech ancestry in the early years. In 1901 the College moved to the more congenial atmosphere of Lisle, in DuPage County. The first building, Benedictine Hall, was dedicated in September 1901. The building was completed by 1921 and new buildings began to be added after 1926. The College became coeducational in 1968 and was renamed Illinois Benedictine College in 1971. In response to community needs, graduate, doctorate and adult learner programs were added. The College became Benedictine University in 1996.  The Eagles are 1-4 on this season.  NOW... aren't you glad you brought it up?

[VULB#62]

The highest points-per-game average for a season was 1965-66, under Bartow, the average was 94.71 points per game....   here are the results from that 1965-66 season, where no player had a shot they didn't like.

Dec. 1 Marquette L 80-79 {Missing from the original list}
Dec. 4  Wheaton  W 100-80
Dec. 7  Hope  W 104-85
Dec. 10 Capital  W 112-59
Dec. 1  Luther   W 120-85
Dec. 14  at  Wabash  W  90-69
Dec. 16  Alberta  W  120-60 {that was before Canadians were alowed to play good basketball}
Dec. 18  at DePauw  L  80-77
Dec. 22  Purdue  W  114-96  {Yes, Purdue!}
Dec. 30  at  Washington (Mo.)  W  70-59
Jan. 3  at Wheaton W 111-60
Jan. 5  at Indiana State  L  113-100
Jan. 8  Evansville  W  83-73 {never a question}
Jan. 12 Butler  W  89-83
Jan. 22  Washington (Mo.)  W 125-92
Jan. 26  at Ball State  W  89-76
Jan. 29  Saint Joseph's (Ind.)  W 72-65
Feb. 2  DePauw  W  110-71
Feb. 5  Indiana State L  101-86
Feb. 9  at Evansville L 95-88 {homers! even then}
Feb. 12 at Butler L 93-91 {was at Hinkle for that one -- we shouddah won}
Feb. 16  at  Air Force  L 98-69
Feb. 19 Ball State  W  112-87
Feb. 22  at Saint Joseph's (Ind.) L 98-69
Feb. 26 Wabash  W 109-77
Mar  1  at Drake L 78-74
Mar  4 vs. Saint Procopius #W  107-76  (NCAA Midwest Regional)
Mar  5 at North Dakota #L  112-82  (NCAA Midwest Regional)
All in all, a pretty impressive season.

I was there for every home game that year.  That team was unreal in the way they ran and scored.  It wasn't a "throw up anything and hope it would go in" offense.  It was just a fast paced offense that scored tons of points inside and on breaks.  Tallest player was Ken Rakow at 6'6."  Tom Smith was at point and Dick Jones was at what is now called the 2. Rich Eynon, Steve Cook (All-American in the 110 High Hurdles and at 6'2" could dunk (it was illegal then in games) with his eyes even with the rim)  and Vern Curtis were the forwards (and the basic rotation).  That was a 5'9", 5'10", 6'2", 6'4", 6'3", and 6'6" lineup that ran by larger teams and went nose to nose with the Jerry Sloan/Larry Humes Evansville teams in 65 and 66. Brown Gym was an incredible place to watch a game from 63-66 and, as I remember it, we packed in over 4K per game those years (classes never got in the way of watching that team play) -- can't speak about 67 cuz I was outta there by then, but Dick Jones, who also was an ace pitcher on Em Bauer's baseball team, averaged over 18 PPG. I'm proud to call all of them, except Smitty who was a Phi Psi but an honorary brother, brother Phi Delts.  In that era we (Phi Delt) owned the basketball, football, and baseball programs on campus.  My, how things have changed.  But a big point to make was that Gene Bartow was a genius at taking available talent and conjurring up a system that would use each player's talents to the max. We beat Marquette in 65 and lost to them by one point in 66, but it was one of my best memories watching a frustrated Al McGuire dealing with a game he could not control in 65.  I had the pleasure and honor of flying from Boston to Milwaukee on the same flight with Al years later -- what a great gentleman.  We talked at length.  He was one of the great ones.

[valpotx]

Wow, DeVry had a basketball team in 1992?!?!

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12/2/2013 Monday

Wright State  69
Morehead State  74   

Mercer  82
Oklahoma  96   

Loyola Marymount  73
UC-Riverside  69         

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ALL TIMES EASTERN STANDARD TIME

12/3/2013 Tuesday

Central Florida at Florida Atlantic  7:00 p.m.
Illinois at Georgia Tech  7:15 p.m.
Northern Iowa at Milwaukee  8:00 p.m.


12/4/2013 Wednesday

Valpo at Ball State  7:00 p.m.
Detroit at Toledo  7:00 p.m.
Cleveland State at Drexel  7:00 p.m.
Robert Morris at Youngstown State 7:45 p.m.
Evansville at Murray State  8:00 p.m.
East Tennessee State at Austin Peay  8:00 p.m.
Southern Methodist at Illinois-Chicago  8:00 p.m.


12/5/2013 Thursday

Wright State at North Carolina A&T  7:00 p.m.


12/6/2013 Friday

James Madison at Sam Houston  7:00 p.m.
Loyola Marymount at Pittsburgh  7:00 p.m.


12/7/2013 Saturday

Wright State at Virginia Military  1:00 p.m.
Youngstown State at MO-Kansas City  1:05 p.m.
East Tennessee State at Georgia Tech  2:00 p.m.
Akron at Cleveland State  2:00 p.m.
Miami (OH) at Evansville  2:05 p.m.
Denver at Mercer  3:00 p.m.
Lipscomb at Murray State  4:00 p.m.
Bradley at Milwaukee  4:00 p.m.
Illinois-Chicago at Loyola-IL  4:00 p.m.
Virginia at Green Bay  5:00 p.m.
Ohio at Oakland  6:00 p.m.
Stetson at Central Florida  7:00 p.m.
Saint Louis at Valpo  8:00 p.m.
James Madison at Stephen F Austin  9:15 p.m.


12/8/2013 Sunday

Rhode Island at Detroit  2:00 p.m.
Auburn at Illinois  3:00 p.m.


12/9/2013 Monday

No opponents' games scheduled


12/10/2013 Tuesday

Oakland at Indiana  7:00 p.m.
Green Bay at Eastern Michigan  7:00 p.m.
Evansville at Xavier  7:00 p.m.
Dartmouth at Illinois  8:00 p.m.


12/11/2013 Wednesday

Howard at Central Florida  7:00 p.m.
Milwaukee at Wisconsin  8:00 p.m.


12/12/2013 Thursday

No opponents' games scheduled

ALL TIMES EASTERN STANDARD TIME

[talksalot]

so I flipped over to cbssports.com for the Wright State game... interesting headline... when you read the article... er uh... do ya think an editor did not read the story before keying the headline?
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Wright State hangs on to beat Morehead State 74-69

Dec. 2, 2013

MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) Angelo Warner had 19 points, eight assists and seven rebounds to lead Morehead State to a 74-69 victory over Wright State on Monday night.

Billy Reader's dunk with 25 seconds to go put Morehead State in front 72-67 and Warner iced the game on two free throws with 8 seconds left.

[historyman]

so I flipped over to cbssports.com for the Wright State game... interesting headline... when you read the article... er uh... do ya think an editor did not read the story before keying the headline? ------------------------------------------------------------ Wright State hangs on to beat Morehead State 74-69 Dec. 2, 2013 MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) Angelo Warner had 19 points, eight assists and seven rebounds to lead Morehead State to a 74-69 victory over Wright State on Monday night. Billy Reader's dunk with 25 seconds to go put Morehead State in front 72-67 and Warner iced the game on two free throws with 8 seconds left.

So you're saying cbssports.com got the headline both Wright and Wrong? 

[wh]

Last night was the first chance I've had to see WSU in action this season.  As everyone knows last year's WSU team made its living on the defensive end by initiating heavy physical contact on every cut and drive.  They definitely had a different look last night with being far more limited by the new rule changes. The good news for WSU fans - scoring against D-1 opponents is up by 10 points over last year.  The bad, points against are up by 15.  This is the struggle that defensive-minded teams like WSU are going to have with the new rule changes.  Are they going to be able to find enough offense to make up for what they lose on defense?  Maybe Hopkins will help bridge that gap.

Looking forward I don't think we'll know much more about WSU before conference play begins than we know right now.  Their 6 remaining OOC opponents have a combined D-1 record of 7-23 with RPI's ranging from 179 to 298. This should be 6 easy wins for a team with everyone back, plus the addition of Hopkins 2 or 3 games from now.

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12/3/2013 Tuesday

Central Florida  64
Florida Atlantic  75   

Illinois  64
Georgia Tech  67 

Northern Iowa  72
Milwaukee  83

ALL TIMES EASTERN STANDARD TIME

[FWalum]

Northern Iowa  72
Milwaukee  83

Watched the 2nd half of this game and was impressed with Matt Tiby.  Really high energy guy who reminds me of KVW a little in the post and also was able to step out and stroke a couple of 3's tonight.  Very versatile player.

[EddieCabot]

Northern Iowa  72
Milwaukee  83

Watched the 2nd half of this game and was impressed with Matt Tiby.  Really high energy guy who reminds me of KVW a little in the post and also was able to step out and stroke a couple of 3's tonight.  Very versatile player.

This looks like a good win ... UNI was picked 3rd in the Valley.  Of note, it took UWM to December 3rd to match last season's win total of 8.  They may not be great, but they are definitely improved.

[classof2014]

I have been incredibly impressed with UWM. They've beaten some really good teams and look like a legitimate contender this season.

Still cautious though, let us not forget the hot and surprising start UIC was able to get off to last season and they were a big let down come conference play.

[wh]

I have been incredibly impressed with UWM. They've beaten some really good teams and look like a legitimate contender this season.

Still cautious though, let us not forget the hot and surprising start UIC was able to get off to last season and they were a big let down come conference play.

The 7 D-1 teams they have beaten have a combined D-1 record of 14-33, and all 7 have losing records.  They also lost to 2-5 Loyola.  A better test will be against 5-2 Bradley on Saturday, although the Braves have beaten some real cupcakes themselves. 

[EddieCabot]

I have been incredibly impressed with UWM. They've beaten some really good teams and look like a legitimate contender this season.

Still cautious though, let us not forget the hot and surprising start UIC was able to get off to last season and they were a big let down come conference play.

The 7 D-1 teams they have beaten have a combined D-1 record of 14-33, and all 7 have losing records.  They also lost to 2-5 Loyola.  A better test will be against 5-2 Bradley on Saturday, although the Braves have beaten some real cupcakes themselves.

Like I said, they're not great, but at least they're winning some games.  IMO, beating bad teams is better than losing to bad teams.

You could apply the same skepticism to Valpo ... their 3 DI wins come against teams that are 4-13 against DI competition. 

As you point out, it's very tough to draw conclusions this early in the season. Things will shake out over time.  My only point was that any non-con win by a league team helps the league.

[valpotx]

I am happy that they are winning their out of conference games, that is all I care about at the moment.  I won't call them a contender until I see them do it in conference, as they were just plain AWFUL last season.  It was like watching a scene from Gravity, one catastrophe after another!

[wh]

I have been incredibly impressed with UWM. They've beaten some really good teams and look like a legitimate contender this season.

Still cautious though, let us not forget the hot and surprising start UIC was able to get off to last season and they were a big let down come conference play.

The 7 D-1 teams they have beaten have a combined D-1 record of 14-33, and all 7 have losing records.  They also lost to 2-5 Loyola.  A better test will be against 5-2 Bradley on Saturday, although the Braves have beaten some real cupcakes themselves.

Like I said, they're not great, but at least they're winning some games.  IMO, beating bad teams is better than losing to bad teams.

You could apply the same skepticism to Valpo ... their 3 DI wins come against teams that are 4-13 against DI competition. 

As you point out, it's very tough to draw conclusions this early in the season. Things will shake out over time.  My only point was that any non-con win by a league team helps the league.

I wasn't taking issue with your comment.  I thought 2014's comment about them beating some "really good teams" was a little over the top - nothing more than that. Obviously, I hope they win every OOC game they play.  As I noted on another thread awhile back, having a strong Milwaukee is very important to the Horizon League.   

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12/4/2013 Wednesday

Valpo  69
Ball State  50 

Detroit  75
Toledo  91

Cleveland State  82   3 OT
Drexel  85 

Robert Morris  75
Youngstown State  84

Evansville  63 
Murray State  65 

East Tennessee State  80
Austin Peay  74 

Southern Methodist  73 
Illinois-Chicago  65 

[valporun]

If you live in the Chicagoland area, or get Comcast Sportsnet Chicago on your television viewing system, the SMU-UIC game will be on CSNChicago at 7PM CT this evening.

[valpotx]

Do we have confirmation that our game will be free today through one of those links?

[StlVUFan]

Do we have confirmation that our game will be free today through one of those links?

I'm watching their pre-game free right now at the mac site.

However, the WVUR webcast seems to be down.  Can't connect from my laptop or from the TuneIn app.

[valporun]

It took me a little bit to get connected on the Tune-In radio app too.