Smits Commits to Valpo!

FieldGoodie05 · April 29, 2019, 08:26:35 PM

Quote from: wh on April 29, 2019, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: bigmosmithfan1 on April 29, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
QuoteHe didnt fit in the offense here

A) There's been no evidence of any sort of offensive system the past two years so that seems like a hasty generalization, and...

B) If a 7-1 dude who can score (regardless of any other flaws in his game) doesn't a fit a coach's "offensive system" in a midmajor conference, then that coach is, frankly, a moron. You adjust your damn system for that at this level.

We did, and it was painful to watch.

Someone else said it best, if Butler has shooters to where he can kick it and they have to stay home on the double down ....then he'll be a good get by said program. At the time of course Butler hadn't been named, just _______ program that lands him.

And we ran our offense through him ad nauseam, we just didn't have an offensive threat from outside to keep defenses honest.

It's not so much that Matt doesn't run sets, it's just that he learned real quick that Bakari and crew couldn't sink shots consistently.

This year should be quite telling on whether Matt has X and O chops to put on display. I'm coming around to 2019/20 season after the offseason vote of no confidence by so many players.

JD24 · April 29, 2019, 11:23:28 PM

What happened to Smits staying near Mommy and Daddy or warm weather or whatever else it was that had it thought he'd end up in Arizona?

VU2014 · April 29, 2019, 11:30:19 PM

Rik still has a home in Indy. It sucks that he's leaving Butler of all places but I don't want to dog the kid too much. It's his choice and if he doesn't want to be here then so be it. It is what it is. Best of luck to him. I'll be following his career and beyond.

bbtds · April 30, 2019, 03:32:45 AM

Quote from: JD24 on April 29, 2019, 11:23:28 PM
What happened to Smits staying near Mommy and Daddy or warm weather or whatever else it was that had it thought he'd end up in Arizona?

FYI, Rik and Mommy are divorced. Rik and girlfriend moved to Arizona. It was a move most likely for weather but probably also not to shove it in Mommy's face that Rik had moved on from the marriage.

https://www.indystar.com/story/life/home-garden/2017/07/14/hot-property-rik-smits-zionsville/472329001/

Smits and his longtime girlfriend, Donna Jarrett, have listed the property for $2.7 million.

In addition to the court, in the house boasts five bedrooms, 5½ bathrooms, a 14-foot kitchen island, subzero fridge, walk-in shower and movie theater connected to the court.

All the doorways are tall, too, the 7-4 former center pointed out.

humbleopinion · April 30, 2019, 05:11:49 AM

Quote from: VU2014 on April 29, 2019, 11:30:19 PMI don't want to dog the kid too much.

Was this an intended Butler-referenced pun?

valpotx · April 30, 2019, 05:25:45 AM

I wish him well in general, but Buck Futler forever

bbtds · April 30, 2019, 01:48:09 PM

Quote from: humbleopinion on April 30, 2019, 05:11:49 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 29, 2019, 11:30:19 PMI don't want to dog the kid too much.

Was this an intended Butler-referenced pun?

My answer would be yes, it's a lot of bull, dog.

bigmosmithfan1 · May 01, 2019, 10:20:58 AM

Quote from: wh on April 29, 2019, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: bigmosmithfan1 on April 29, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
QuoteHe didnt fit in the offense here
A) There's been no evidence of any sort of offensive system the past two years so that seems like a hasty generalization, and... B) If a 7-1 dude who can score (regardless of any other flaws in his game) doesn't a fit a coach's "offensive system" in a midmajor conference, then that coach is, frankly, a moron. You adjust your damn system for that at this level.
We did, and it was painful to watch.

See point a) above.

VUBBFan · May 21, 2019, 12:40:28 PM

They like the Smits name down in Indy.
https://twitter.com/ButlerMBB/status/1130879859469762562

usc4valpo · May 21, 2019, 02:49:12 PM

they may like his name but not his performance. he can be a tackling dummy for the Greek Freak...

vuny98 · May 21, 2019, 02:55:56 PM

Quote from: usc4valpo on May 21, 2019, 02:49:12 PMthey may like his name but not his performance. he can be a tackling dummy for the Greek Freak...

He's got a decent jump shot and he has size. His defense was sub par, but in the NBA that's not really something anyone seems too concerned about... so who knows.

M · May 21, 2019, 07:50:06 PM

Smits plays no defense and would be destroyed by every single big man or even sorta big man in the league. He also can't hit an NBA range 3. Zero chance. Will do fine overseas or maybe G League.

usc4valpo · May 22, 2019, 09:34:40 AM

I think he is also slow.

valpotx · May 22, 2019, 09:50:23 PM

If Alec Brown couldn't make it to the NBA, neither will Smits Jr.

usc4valpo · May 23, 2019, 12:25:15 PM

too slow, too turnover prone, and in reality not that huge a loss for Valpo hoops. Move on.

vuny98 · May 23, 2019, 03:17:23 PM

Quote from: usc4valpo on May 23, 2019, 12:25:15 PMtoo slow, too turnover prone, and in reality not that huge a loss for Valpo hoops. Move on.

He was very frustrating. Had so much potential, some great offensive moves at times, decent vision and made some great passes, good jump shot. But was often slow to move around, made some real bad turnovers/sloppy ball handling, went quite for whole half's at a time on the offensive end, and was not aggressive on rebounds.

Not that I think it will happen, but one real good year fixing some of those issues in the right system could at least get him some looks.

wh · May 23, 2019, 07:06:55 PM

Quote from: vuny98 on May 23, 2019, 03:17:23 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on May 23, 2019, 12:25:15 PMtoo slow, too turnover prone, and in reality not that huge a loss for Valpo hoops. Move on.

He was very frustrating. Had so much potential, some great offensive moves at times, decent vision and made some great passes, good jump shot. But was often slow to move around, made some real bad turnovers/sloppy ball handling, went quite for whole half's at a time on the offensive end, and was not aggressive on rebounds.

Not that I think it will happen, but one real good year fixing some of those issues in the right system could at least get him some looks.

To your point, it's not every day that a 7-2 center shows up on your doorstep, so naturally he would be harder to coach up. If only he had had someone closer to his size to learn from, someone who really undersood the intricacies of playing the center position, someone who played the position at a very high level. And, as long as I'm dreaming, how about a former NBA All-Star? If only...

valpospartan · May 23, 2019, 07:43:05 PM

Quote from: vuny98 on May 23, 2019, 03:17:23 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on May 23, 2019, 12:25:15 PMtoo slow, too turnover prone, and in reality not that huge a loss for Valpo hoops. Move on.

He was very frustrating. Had so much potential, some great offensive moves at times, decent vision and made some great passes, good jump shot. But was often slow to move around, made some real bad turnovers/sloppy ball handling, went quite for whole half's at a time on the offensive end, and was not aggressive on rebounds.

Not that I think it will happen, but one real good year fixing some of those issues in the right system could at least get him some looks.

Not to mention his lack of dunking ability. Too often, IMHO, he missed a layup, when an easy dunk was available.

antwaundomenic · July 06, 2019, 07:45:51 AM

Outstanding! Welcome, Derrik!

bbtds · July 06, 2019, 09:06:02 AM

Quote from: antwaundomenic on July 06, 2019, 07:45:51 AM
Outstanding! Welcome, Derrik!

The thread title really should be changed to Derrik FINALLY commits to Butler.