Valpo Football Team Should Be Considered for the BCS College Football Playoff

[a3uge]

Hear me out.

Valpo beat Butler this year.

Butler, of course beat Stetson whom beat Marist.

Marist had a great win vs Jacksonville, who beat San Diego who beat Dayton.

Dayton, of course, beat Georgetown, who beat Holy Cross, who beat Morgan State, who beat South Carolina State.

SC State beat up on Bethune Cookman.

Bethune cookman beat FIU, who beat UAB, who beat Western Kentucky, who beat Bowling Green, who beat Indiana.

Indiana beat Mizzou.

And of course Mizzou beat Arkansas, who beat Ole Miss.

Ole Miss beat #1 Alabama.

So it's really illogical to NOT consider Valpo for the College Football Playoff, seeing as they basically beat the #1 team in the country.

[Kyle321n]

Seems legit.

[covufan]

Marist had a great win vs Dayton.

Didn't Marist lose to Dayton?  31-21?

[a3uge]

Marist had a great win vs Dayton.

Didn't Marist lose to Dayton?  31-21?

Correct, I don't understand why you ask this question though. Marist beat Jacksonville whom beat San Diego whom beat dayton

[covufan]

Hear me out.

Valpo beat Butler this year.

Butler, of course beat Stetson whom beat Marist.

Marist had a great win vs Jacksonville, whom beat San Diego whom beat Dayton.

Dayton, of course, beat Georgetown, whom beat Holy Cross, whom beat Morgan State, whom beat South Carolina State.

SC State beat up on Bethune Cookman.

Bethune cookman beat FIU, whom beat UAB, whom beat fAu.

FAU beat Western Kentucky, whom beat Bowling Green, whom beat Indiana.

Indiana beat Mizzou.

And of course Mizzou beat Arkansas, whom beat Ole Miss.

Ole Miss beat #1 Alabama.

So it's really illogical to NOT consider Valpo for the College Football Playoff, seeing as they basically beat the #1 team in the country.

Was just about to edit...

[covufan]

Marist had a great win vs Dayton.

Didn't Marist lose to Dayton?  31-21?

Correct, I don't understand why you ask this question though. Marist beat Jacksonville whom beat San Diego whom beat dayton

Nice, fast edit!  Wish I had quoted the whole thing, though

[a3uge]

UAB also beat Western Kentucky, so I can cut it down. Anyone see a shorter path?

[covufan]

Good find!  Makes you wonder.  A bit more believable when we do the same thing with men's basketball. 

Massey has a matchup tool.  I put in Valpo and Missouri:

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=262657&t0=Valparaiso&h=0&s1=262657&t1=University+of+Missouri

I put in 7 game series (no best of) and hit the sim button 14 times (98 games simulated) before Valpo scored in a 70-2 loss.  Hit the sim button another 8 times to get another score with a loss of 84-3. 

For Western Kentucky I simulated about 350 games and got a few close losses (10 points), but no wins. 

For Florida International I got one 21-17 loss in about 280 simulations.  Maybe next year!

[covufan]

UAB also beat Western Kentucky, so I can cut it down. Anyone see a shorter path?

No.  Longer paths yes, but I think the keys are Mizzou's loss to IU and FIU's loss to Bethune-Cookman.

[a3uge]

We did it both way today for basketball too.

Valpo 15 > Portland 12 > Portland State 8 > USC 12 > New Mexico

New Mexico > CS Fullerton > FIU > Kennesaw St > Samford > UMKC > Missouri > Valpo

[covufan]

Bowling Green also beat Akron, who beat Pitt, who beat Boston College, who beat USC, who beat AZ, who beat Oregon. 

Two paths to the BCS College Football Playoff!

[LaPorteAveApostle]

You used "whom" instead of "who", as you should when in the nominative or accusative (objective) cases.

...I still liked your post anyway.  Well done.

[a3uge]

You used "whom" instead of "who", as you should when in the nominative or accusative (objective) cases.

...I still liked your post anyway.  Well done.

I even looked that up. Are you sure?

[a3uge]

Handy geographically close-enough map.

[LaPorteAveApostle]

I even looked that up. Are you sure?

Mashup your list with Matthew 1, and you'll see what I mean.

In the 'key' of "g", that is:

Valpo begat Butler this year.

Butler, of course begat Stetson who begat Marist.

Marist was the mother of Jacksonville, who begat San Diego who begat Dayton.

Dayton, of course, begat Georgetown, who begat Holy Cross, who begat Morgan State, who begat South Carolina State.

SC State begat all up on Bethune Cookman.

etc.

[valpopal]

You used "whom" instead of "who", as you should when in the nominative or accusative (objective) cases.

...I still liked your post anyway.  Well done.

I even looked that up. Are you sure?

If we are going to focus on "grammar and punctuation," commas go inside of quotes. 

[LaPorteAveApostle]

Strongly disagree.  The comma is not part of the quote.

[valpopal]

Strongly disagree.  The comma is not part of the quote.

Rule 3a. Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks.
Examples: The sign said, "Walk." Then it said, "Don't Walk," then, "Walk," all within thirty seconds. He yelled, "Hurry up."

[bbtds]

Strongly disagree.  The comma is not part of the quote.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/quotation.htm

In the United States, periods and commas go inside quotation marks regardless of logic. Click HERE for an explanation (sort of).

[LaPorteAveApostle]

BRITISH PUNCTUATION RULES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!1!

i mean

BRITISH PUNCTUATION RULES, FOREVER!!!

(no more than 3 exclamation points, ever.)

[covufan]

Anyone see a shorter path?

Yes, but I had to use this tool:

http://www.masseyratings.com/path.php?s=&t0=Valparaiso&pt=1&t1=


Shortest Path: Valparaiso >>> Alabama
By transitivity, this 19 game path shows that Valparaiso dominates Alabama by 248 points.


#   Date                Winner                      Scr       Loser                     Scr

1 2014-11-08 @ Valparaiso # 506 (4-8)  17         Butler# 478 (4-7)    3 
2 2014-10-04 Butler# 478 (4-7) 49 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 41 
3 2014-11-08 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 22 Marist# 432 (4-7) 14 
4 2014-11-01 @ Marist# 432 (4-7) 17 Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 16 
5 2014-09-13 @ Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 35 San Diego# 313 (9-3) 18 
6 2014-09-06 @ San Diego# 313 (9-3) 23 W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 17 
7 2014-10-04 @ W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 24 Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 17 
8 2014-10-11 @ Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 23 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 22 
9 2014-09-13 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 47 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 21 
10 2014-11-22 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 38 Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 31 
11 2014-10-25 @ Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 58 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 35 
12 2014-09-20 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 30 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 27 
13 2014-11-01 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 59 W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 10 
14 2014-08-29 @ W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 59 Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 31 
15 2014-09-13 @ Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 45 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 42 
16 2014-09-20 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 31 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 27 
17 2014-11-28 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 21 Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 14 
18 2014-11-22 @ Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 30 Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 0 
19 2014-10-04 @ Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 23 Alabama# 1 (12-1) 17

[Kyle321n]

Anyone see a shorter path?

Yes, but I had to use this tool:

http://www.masseyratings.com/path.php?s=&t0=Valparaiso&pt=1&t1=


Shortest Path: Valparaiso >>> Alabama
By transitivity, this 19 game path shows that Valparaiso dominates Alabama by 248 points.


#   Date                Winner                      Scr       Loser                     Scr

1 2014-11-08 @ Valparaiso # 506 (4-8)  17         Butler# 478 (4-7)    3 
2 2014-10-04 Butler# 478 (4-7) 49 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 41 
3 2014-11-08 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 22 Marist# 432 (4-7) 14 
4 2014-11-01 @ Marist# 432 (4-7) 17 Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 16 
5 2014-09-13 @ Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 35 San Diego# 313 (9-3) 18 
6 2014-09-06 @ San Diego# 313 (9-3) 23 W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 17 
7 2014-10-04 @ W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 24 Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 17 
8 2014-10-11 @ Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 23 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 22 
9 2014-09-13 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 47 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 21 
10 2014-11-22 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 38 Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 31 
11 2014-10-25 @ Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 58 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 35 
12 2014-09-20 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 30 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 27 
13 2014-11-01 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 59 W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 10 
14 2014-08-29 @ W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 59 Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 31 
15 2014-09-13 @ Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 45 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 42 
16 2014-09-20 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 31 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 27 
17 2014-11-28 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 21 Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 14 
18 2014-11-22 @ Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 30 Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 0 
19 2014-10-04 @ Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 23 Alabama# 1 (12-1) 17

Oh yeah well...


Alabama   beat   Southern Miss   52 - 12
Southern Miss   beat   Appalachian St   21 - 20
Appalachian St   beat   Campbell   66 - 0
Campbell   beat   Valparaiso   34 - 24

[covufan]

Anyone see a shorter path?

Yes, but I had to use this tool:

http://www.masseyratings.com/path.php?s=&t0=Valparaiso&pt=1&t1=


Shortest Path: Valparaiso >>> Alabama
By transitivity, this 19 game path shows that Valparaiso dominates Alabama by 248 points.


#   Date                Winner                      Scr       Loser                     Scr

1 2014-11-08 @ Valparaiso # 506 (4-8)  17         Butler# 478 (4-7)    3 
2 2014-10-04 Butler# 478 (4-7) 49 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 41 
3 2014-11-08 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 22 Marist# 432 (4-7) 14 
4 2014-11-01 @ Marist# 432 (4-7) 17 Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 16 
5 2014-09-13 @ Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 35 San Diego# 313 (9-3) 18 
6 2014-09-06 @ San Diego# 313 (9-3) 23 W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 17 
7 2014-10-04 @ W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 24 Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 17 
8 2014-10-11 @ Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 23 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 22 
9 2014-09-13 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 47 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 21 
10 2014-11-22 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 38 Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 31 
11 2014-10-25 @ Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 58 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 35 
12 2014-09-20 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 30 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 27 
13 2014-11-01 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 59 W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 10 
14 2014-08-29 @ W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 59 Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 31 
15 2014-09-13 @ Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 45 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 42 
16 2014-09-20 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 31 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 27 
17 2014-11-28 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 21 Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 14 
18 2014-11-22 @ Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 30 Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 0 
19 2014-10-04 @ Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 23 Alabama# 1 (12-1) 17

Oh yeah well...


Alabama   beat   Southern Miss   52 - 12
Southern Miss   beat   Appalachian St   21 - 20
Appalachian St   beat   Campbell   66 - 0
Campbell   beat   Valparaiso   34 - 24

The opposite of the combination of these is probably the most likely outcome!

[usc4valpo]

tx - if you add it up, Alabama to beat Valpo by 117 points?  Pointwise, that would be something interesting to watch.  Phyllis from Mulga on the Paul Feinbaum show would be joyful over that.

[bbtds]

tx - if you add it up, Alabama to beat Valpo by 117 points?  Pointwise, that would be something interesting to watch.  Phyllis from Mulga on the Paul Feinbaum show would be joyful over that.

Phyllis from Mulga is very happy!!!

You don't want to see her angry