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Valpo Football Team Should Be Considered for the BCS College Football Playoff

Started by a3uge, December 05, 2014, 03:28:54 PM

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a3uge

Hear me out.

Valpo beat Butler this year.

Butler, of course beat Stetson whom beat Marist.

Marist had a great win vs Jacksonville, who beat San Diego who beat Dayton.

Dayton, of course, beat Georgetown, who beat Holy Cross, who beat Morgan State, who beat South Carolina State.

SC State beat up on Bethune Cookman.

Bethune cookman beat FIU, who beat UAB, who beat Western Kentucky, who beat Bowling Green, who beat Indiana.

Indiana beat Mizzou.

And of course Mizzou beat Arkansas, who beat Ole Miss.

Ole Miss beat #1 Alabama.

So it's really illogical to NOT consider Valpo for the College Football Playoff, seeing as they basically beat the #1 team in the country.


Kyle321n

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a3uge

Quote from: covufan on December 05, 2014, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:28:54 PMMarist had a great win vs Dayton.
Didn't Marist lose to Dayton?  31-21?

Correct, I don't understand why you ask this question though. Marist beat Jacksonville whom beat San Diego whom beat dayton

covufan

Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
Hear me out.

Valpo beat Butler this year.

Butler, of course beat Stetson whom beat Marist.

Marist had a great win vs Jacksonville, whom beat San Diego whom beat Dayton.

Dayton, of course, beat Georgetown, whom beat Holy Cross, whom beat Morgan State, whom beat South Carolina State.

SC State beat up on Bethune Cookman.

Bethune cookman beat FIU, whom beat UAB, whom beat fAu.

FAU beat Western Kentucky, whom beat Bowling Green, whom beat Indiana.

Indiana beat Mizzou.

And of course Mizzou beat Arkansas, whom beat Ole Miss.

Ole Miss beat #1 Alabama.

So it's really illogical to NOT consider Valpo for the College Football Playoff, seeing as they basically beat the #1 team in the country.
Was just about to edit...

covufan

Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: covufan on December 05, 2014, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:28:54 PMMarist had a great win vs Dayton.
Didn't Marist lose to Dayton?  31-21?

Correct, I don't understand why you ask this question though. Marist beat Jacksonville whom beat San Diego whom beat dayton
Nice, fast edit!  Wish I had quoted the whole thing, though ;)

a3uge

UAB also beat Western Kentucky, so I can cut it down. Anyone see a shorter path?

covufan

Good find!  Makes you wonder.  A bit more believable when we do the same thing with men's basketball. 

Massey has a matchup tool.  I put in Valpo and Missouri:

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=262657&t0=Valparaiso&h=0&s1=262657&t1=University+of+Missouri

I put in 7 game series (no best of) and hit the sim button 14 times (98 games simulated) before Valpo scored in a 70-2 loss.  Hit the sim button another 8 times to get another score with a loss of 84-3. 

For Western Kentucky I simulated about 350 games and got a few close losses (10 points), but no wins. 

For Florida International I got one 21-17 loss in about 280 simulations.  Maybe next year!

covufan

Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:48:38 PM
UAB also beat Western Kentucky, so I can cut it down. Anyone see a shorter path?

No.  Longer paths yes, but I think the keys are Mizzou's loss to IU and FIU's loss to Bethune-Cookman.

a3uge

We did it both way today for basketball too.

Valpo 15 > Portland 12 > Portland State 8 > USC 12 > New Mexico

New Mexico > CS Fullerton > FIU > Kennesaw St > Samford > UMKC > Missouri > Valpo



covufan

Bowling Green also beat Akron, who beat Pitt, who beat Boston College, who beat USC, who beat AZ, who beat Oregon. 

Two paths to the BCS College Football Playoff!

LaPorteAveApostle

You used "whom" instead of "who", as you should when in the nominative or accusative (objective) cases.

...I still liked your post anyway.  Well done.
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

a3uge

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 05, 2014, 05:38:50 PM
You used "whom" instead of "who", as you should when in the nominative or accusative (objective) cases.

...I still liked your post anyway.  Well done.

I even looked that up. Are you sure?


LaPorteAveApostle

Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 06:18:10 PMI even looked that up. Are you sure?
Mashup your list with Matthew 1, and you'll see what I mean.

In the 'key' of "g", that is:

QuoteValpo begat Butler this year.

Butler, of course begat Stetson who begat Marist.

Marist was the mother of Jacksonville, who begat San Diego who begat Dayton.

Dayton, of course, begat Georgetown, who begat Holy Cross, who begat Morgan State, who begat South Carolina State.

SC State begat all up on Bethune Cookman.

etc.
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

valpopal

Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 06:18:10 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 05, 2014, 05:38:50 PM
You used "whom" instead of "who", as you should when in the nominative or accusative (objective) cases.

...I still liked your post anyway.  Well done.

I even looked that up. Are you sure?


If we are going to focus on "grammar and punctuation," commas go inside of quotes.  ;)

LaPorteAveApostle

"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

valpopal

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 05, 2014, 09:34:43 PM
Strongly disagree.  The comma is not part of the quote.


Rule 3a. Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks.
Examples: The sign said, "Walk." Then it said, "Don't Walk," then, "Walk," all within thirty seconds. He yelled, "Hurry up."

bbtds

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 05, 2014, 09:34:43 PM
Strongly disagree.  The comma is not part of the quote.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/quotation.htm

In the United States, periods and commas go inside quotation marks regardless of logic. Click HERE for an explanation (sort of).


LaPorteAveApostle

BRITISH PUNCTUATION RULES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!1!

i mean

BRITISH PUNCTUATION RULES, FOREVER!!!

(no more than 3 exclamation points, ever.)
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

covufan

Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:48:38 PMAnyone see a shorter path?
Yes, but I had to use this tool:

http://www.masseyratings.com/path.php?s=&t0=Valparaiso&pt=1&t1=


Shortest Path: Valparaiso >>> Alabama
By transitivity, this 19 game path shows that Valparaiso dominates Alabama by 248 points.


#   Date                Winner                      Scr       Loser                     Scr

1 2014-11-08 @ Valparaiso # 506 (4-8)  17         Butler# 478 (4-7)    3 
2 2014-10-04 Butler# 478 (4-7) 49 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 41 
3 2014-11-08 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 22 Marist# 432 (4-7) 14 
4 2014-11-01 @ Marist# 432 (4-7) 17 Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 16 
5 2014-09-13 @ Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 35 San Diego# 313 (9-3) 18 
6 2014-09-06 @ San Diego# 313 (9-3) 23 W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 17 
7 2014-10-04 @ W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 24 Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 17 
8 2014-10-11 @ Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 23 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 22 
9 2014-09-13 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 47 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 21 
10 2014-11-22 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 38 Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 31 
11 2014-10-25 @ Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 58 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 35 
12 2014-09-20 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 30 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 27 
13 2014-11-01 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 59 W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 10 
14 2014-08-29 @ W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 59 Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 31 
15 2014-09-13 @ Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 45 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 42 
16 2014-09-20 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 31 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 27 
17 2014-11-28 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 21 Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 14 
18 2014-11-22 @ Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 30 Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 0 
19 2014-10-04 @ Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 23 Alabama# 1 (12-1) 17

Kyle321n

Quote from: covufan on December 10, 2014, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:48:38 PMAnyone see a shorter path?
Yes, but I had to use this tool:

http://www.masseyratings.com/path.php?s=&t0=Valparaiso&pt=1&t1=


Shortest Path: Valparaiso >>> Alabama
By transitivity, this 19 game path shows that Valparaiso dominates Alabama by 248 points.


#   Date                Winner                      Scr       Loser                     Scr

1 2014-11-08 @ Valparaiso # 506 (4-8)  17         Butler# 478 (4-7)    3 
2 2014-10-04 Butler# 478 (4-7) 49 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 41 
3 2014-11-08 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 22 Marist# 432 (4-7) 14 
4 2014-11-01 @ Marist# 432 (4-7) 17 Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 16 
5 2014-09-13 @ Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 35 San Diego# 313 (9-3) 18 
6 2014-09-06 @ San Diego# 313 (9-3) 23 W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 17 
7 2014-10-04 @ W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 24 Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 17 
8 2014-10-11 @ Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 23 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 22 
9 2014-09-13 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 47 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 21 
10 2014-11-22 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 38 Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 31 
11 2014-10-25 @ Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 58 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 35 
12 2014-09-20 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 30 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 27 
13 2014-11-01 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 59 W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 10 
14 2014-08-29 @ W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 59 Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 31 
15 2014-09-13 @ Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 45 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 42 
16 2014-09-20 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 31 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 27 
17 2014-11-28 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 21 Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 14 
18 2014-11-22 @ Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 30 Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 0 
19 2014-10-04 @ Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 23 Alabama# 1 (12-1) 17


Oh yeah well...


Alabama   beat   Southern Miss   52 - 12
Southern Miss   beat   Appalachian St   21 - 20
Appalachian St   beat   Campbell   66 - 0
Campbell   beat   Valparaiso   34 - 24
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covufan

Quote from: Kyle321n on December 11, 2014, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: covufan on December 10, 2014, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2014, 03:48:38 PMAnyone see a shorter path?
Yes, but I had to use this tool:

http://www.masseyratings.com/path.php?s=&t0=Valparaiso&pt=1&t1=


Shortest Path: Valparaiso >>> Alabama
By transitivity, this 19 game path shows that Valparaiso dominates Alabama by 248 points.


#   Date                Winner                      Scr       Loser                     Scr

1 2014-11-08 @ Valparaiso # 506 (4-8)  17         Butler# 478 (4-7)    3 
2 2014-10-04 Butler# 478 (4-7) 49 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 41 
3 2014-11-08 @ Stetson# 493 (5-7) 22 Marist# 432 (4-7) 14 
4 2014-11-01 @ Marist# 432 (4-7) 17 Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 16 
5 2014-09-13 @ Jacksonville# 291 (9-2) 35 San Diego# 313 (9-3) 18 
6 2014-09-06 @ San Diego# 313 (9-3) 23 W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 17 
7 2014-10-04 @ W New Mexico# 372 (5-6) 24 Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 17 
8 2014-10-11 @ Ft Lewis# 413 (3-8) 23 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 22 
9 2014-09-13 CSU-Pueblo# 131 (12-1) 47 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 21 
10 2014-11-22 @ Sam Houston St# 98 (10-4) 38 Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 31 
11 2014-10-25 @ Cent Arkansas# 158 (6-6) 58 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 35 
12 2014-09-20 Northwestern LA# 144 (6-6) 30 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 27 
13 2014-11-01 @ Louisiana Tech# 69 (8-5) 59 W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 10 
14 2014-08-29 @ W Kentucky# 79 (7-5) 59 Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 31 
15 2014-09-13 @ Bowling Green# 116 (7-6) 45 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 42 
16 2014-09-20 Indiana# 89 (4-8) 31 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 27 
17 2014-11-28 @ Missouri# 16 (10-3) 21 Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 14 
18 2014-11-22 @ Arkansas# 19 (6-6) 30 Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 0 
19 2014-10-04 @ Mississippi# 8 (9-3) 23 Alabama# 1 (12-1) 17


Oh yeah well...


Alabama   beat   Southern Miss   52 - 12
Southern Miss   beat   Appalachian St   21 - 20
Appalachian St   beat   Campbell   66 - 0
Campbell   beat   Valparaiso   34 - 24
The opposite of the combination of these is probably the most likely outcome!

usc4valpo

tx - if you add it up, Alabama to beat Valpo by 117 points?  Pointwise, that would be something interesting to watch.  Phyllis from Mulga on the Paul Feinbaum show would be joyful over that.

bbtds

Quote from: usc4valpo on December 11, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
tx - if you add it up, Alabama to beat Valpo by 117 points?  Pointwise, that would be something interesting to watch.  Phyllis from Mulga on the Paul Feinbaum show would be joyful over that.




Phyllis from Mulga is very happy!!!

You don't want to see her angry