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agibson

Quote from: talksalot on January 04, 2016, 09:13:57 PMTuesday 1/5
Washington Generals Vs. Globetrotters @ Valparaiso University

Turns out that VU plays just a mite more defense than the Globetrotters.  But, it was good fun!

Pretty decent crowd in the house, lots of kids.  A certain number of familiar faces from VU games, but lots of less familiar faces too.  Hopefully some good advertising for the VU teams.

I didn't realize they were on TV at the same time (6 PM ESPN2?).

talksalot

Tuesday 1/5
Rhode Island (10-5) 77 Richmond 65

agibson

Quote from: talksalot on January 05, 2016, 10:13:08 PM
Tuesday 1/5
Washington Generals Vs. Globetrotters @ Valparaiso University

Final score was Globetrotters 104, World All-Stars 100, I think.

But 10 or 15 of the All-Stars were from their coach monkeying with the scoreboard.  And 2 of the Globetrotters were from a nine-year old.

StlVUFan

Quote from: oklahomamick on January 05, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Don't know why they are fussing...They will still host. 
Detroit will host.

VULB#62


bbtds

Quote from: VULB#62 on January 05, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Horse a piece.

Since you didn't quote anything before your comment I have no idea what "Horse a piece" refers to or means. Was there a spelling error?  ??? ???

justducky


VULB#62

Quote from: bbtds on January 06, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 05, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Horse a piece.

Since you didn't quote anything before your comment I have no idea what "Horse a piece" refers to or means. Was there a spelling error?  ??? ???

Wisconsinese for "doesn't matter", "6 of one, half dozen of another," or "machts nichts."  Oakland/Detroit hosting = a horse a piece cuz it's still in Detroit.

talksalot

That's what I like about this forum... you learn something new every day...

http://www.waywordradio.org/discussion/topics/a-horse-apiece-1/


a3uge


ValpoHoops

Quote from: a3uge on January 06, 2016, 10:38:48 AM
Wisconsin people are weird.


Excuse me? I resemble that remark...   :lol:

bbtds

Quote from: VULB#62 on January 06, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: bbtds on January 06, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 05, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Horse a piece.

Since you didn't quote anything before your comment I have no idea what "Horse a piece" refers to or means. Was there a spelling error?  ??? ???

Wisconsinese for "doesn't matter", "6 of one, half dozen of another," or "machts nichts."  Oakland/Detroit hosting = a horse a piece cuz it's still in Detroit.

Thank you. I may of even heard this phrase before but to me at the time it seemed out of context and I'm sure you didn't mind as the educated person you are for providing an explanation. The other phrases, "6 of one, half dozen of another" and "machts nichts" (it doesn't matter) I'm much more familiar with.

talksalot

Wednesday 1/6
South Dakota @ IPFW - Local feed link:  http://www.gomastodons.com/watch/?Live=397      Mastodons favored by 5.5 points
Toledo @ Ball State - ESPN3 - Ball State getting 2 points
Indiana State @ Drake - ESPN3 - Drake Getting 1 point at home
Northern Iowa @ Missouri State - ESPN3 - Missouri State getting 6.5 points at home
Belmont @ SIU-Edwardsville - ASN Feed:   http://ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=3090      Belmont favored by 11.5 points
California @ Oregon - ESPN2 - Ducks favored by 3.5 points
Stanford @ Oregon State - ESPNU - Beavers are favored by 6 points at home

VULB#62

Quote from: bbtds on January 06, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 06, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: bbtds on January 06, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 05, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Horse a piece.

Since you didn't quote anything before your comment I have no idea what "Horse a piece" refers to or means. Was there a spelling error?  ??? ???

Wisconsinese for "doesn't matter", "6 of one, half dozen of another," or "machts nichts."  Oakland/Detroit hosting = a horse a piece cuz it's still in Detroit.

Thank you. I may of even heard this phrase before but to me at the time it seemed out of context and I'm sure you didn't mind as the educated person you are for providing an explanation. The other phrases, "6 of one, half dozen of another" and "machts nichts" (it doesn't matter) I'm much more familiar with.
It threw me at first as well when I moved out here 2 years ago.

justducky

Quote from: talksalot on January 06, 2016, 05:06:21 PMSouth Dakota @ IPFW - Local feed link:  http://www.gomastodons.com/watch/?Live=397      Mastodons favored by 5.5 points
Toledo @ Ball State - ESPN3 - Ball State getting 2 points
IPFW 85-65 over South Dakota .  They are now 11-4 and continue to sit at about RPI 90.

Ball St 87-69 over Toledo  Their RPI barely moves to #229. You would think their 9-4 record would deserve better, but their SOS is near the bottom at 346.

talksalot

#240
Wednesday 1/6... 7 opponents in action ... our opponents won the first 6 ... darn you Oregon State!

IPFW (13-4) 85 South Dakota 65  (Mastodon RPI up to 91)

Ball State (10-4) 87 Toledo 69  (Cardinals RPI 225)
Those two nice wins have moved Valpo up to RPI 39  8:25pm

Missouri State (5-10) 59 Northern Iowa 58 !  Nice top-100 win... UNI was #96
and the Valpo RPI is up to #37 on that win 9:03pm; MoSt RPI 251

Indiana State (7-7) 79 Drake 69; Sycamore RPI 161

Belmont (10-6) 85 SIU-Edwardsville 77  (Belmont RPI falls from 100 to 101 and back to 100, ending at 99 !)

California @ Oregon (12-3) 68 Stanford 65  (Duck RPI from 19 to 14)
Valpo RPI up to 36 !   10:18pm
Valpo RPI up to 34 !!  10:33pm
(we leap-frogged Butler and Purdue tonight... among others)

Stanford 78 Oregon State (10-3) 72... ruining our perfect night.   Valpo's RPI falls to 35; Beavers fall to 43
and Purdue goes back ahead of Valpo, with an RPI of 34.

StlVUFan

Quote from: VULB#62 on January 06, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: bbtds on January 06, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 05, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Horse a piece.

Since you didn't quote anything before your comment I have no idea what "Horse a piece" refers to or means. Was there a spelling error?  ??? ???

Wisconsinese for "doesn't matter", "6 of one, half dozen of another," or "machts nichts."  Oakland/Detroit hosting = a horse a piece cuz it's still in Detroit.
Well, it is a half hour away.  I suppose Oakland might be part of the Greater Detroit metropolitan area.  I didn't map the distance between Calihan and Joe Louis, but I'm guessing it's significantly shorter.

Whatever.  My point remains.  UDM has just as much of an advantage, and a little bit more I would think, to say nothing of the fact that I expect Oakland to a be lot more worthy than Detroit will be.  We'll have to see of course.

vu72

Indiana State beats Drake on the road, 79-69
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

talksalot

#243
Thursday 1/7/16
Green Bay @ Cleveland State - Phoenix favored by 3 points
Milwaukee @ Youngstown State - Panthers favored by 6.5 pounts
Rider @ Iona - Gae's are favored 8.5 pomts

Friday 1/8/16  ... only 6 D-1 Games in the nation
UIC @ Detroit

Saturday 1/9/16 - 13 of our opponents are in action !
Wright State @ Northern Kentucky
Ball State @ Ohio
Illinois State @ Indiana State
Milwaukee @ Cleveland State
Eastern Illinois @ Belmont
Missouri State @ Loyola
Marist @ Iona
IPFW @ Denver
Green Bay @ Youngstown State
California @ Oregon State


oklahomamick

Quote from: talksalot on January 06, 2016, 08:23:15 PMValpo RPI up to 36 !   10:18pm Valpo RPI up to 34 !!  10:33pm

As good as Oakland is....even if we escape with a road win in the O'rena we may drop in rpi because they are around 130ish.  (Just as Belmont did last night)
CRUSADERS!!!

agibson

Quote from: oklahomamick on January 07, 2016, 06:08:52 AM
Quote from: talksalot on January 06, 2016, 08:23:15 PMValpo RPI up to 36 !   10:18pm Valpo RPI up to 34 !!  10:33pm

As good as Oakland is....even if we escape with a road win in the O'rena we may drop in rpi because they are around 130ish.  (Just as Belmont did last night)

They're 9-6. Some bad opponents in their record, but some good ones too.  I bet our RPI is fine, increasing at least a bit, on a road win at Oakland. It's probably our best chance, right? And, they haven't played UIC or NKY yet.


oklahomamick

Quote from: agibson on January 07, 2016, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 07, 2016, 06:08:52 AM
Quote from: talksalot on January 06, 2016, 08:23:15 PMValpo RPI up to 36 !   10:18pm Valpo RPI up to 34 !!  10:33pm
As good as Oakland is....even if we escape with a road win in the O'rena we may drop in rpi because they are around 130ish.  (Just as Belmont did last night)
They're 9-6. Some bad opponents in their record, but some good ones too.  I bet our RPI is fine, increasing at least a bit, on a road win at Oakland. It's probably our best chance, right? And, they haven't played UIC or NKY yet.

So basically we will  not be able to improve our rpi through any HL games? 
CRUSADERS!!!

agibson

Quote from: oklahomamick on January 07, 2016, 09:46:46 AM
Quote from: agibson on January 07, 2016, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 07, 2016, 06:08:52 AMAs good as Oakland is....even if we escape with a road win in the O'rena we may drop in rpi because they are around 130ish.  (Just as Belmont did last night)
They're 9-6. Some bad opponents in their record, but some good ones too.  I bet our RPI is fine, increasing at least a bit, on a road win at Oakland. It's probably our best chance, right? And, they haven't played UIC or NKY yet.

So basically we will  not be able to improve our rpi through any HL games? 

Playing with the numbers a little, maybe it's not quite as dismal as some of us assumed. Most road wins seem likely to help our RPI, and some home wins.

We're currently RPI #35 or #40.  RPI Forecast says #40, Warren Nolan (probably more up to date?) says #35.  If we win out the regular season (4% chance, says RPI Forecast) RPI Forecast puts us at #25.1, #38 with even two more losses (25% chance of that particular outcome, or 45% chance we do at least that well).  So, we can certainly improve.

RPI Forecast currently has us 53%, 0.8 point, favorites at Oakland.

Turning to RPI Wizard, the computational details get a little murky, but if I give us _no_ other games, _just_ our current record, they give us #33 (at the end of the season for everybody else, I think).  If I add the Oakland road win it improves to #24. They claim a loss there would drop us to #37.  They claim that even a win against Oakland at the ARC, as the only other game of the season after today, would put us at #25.

They've got Milwaukee, Detroit, and Green Bay road wins helping us too.

Road wins that hurt us: UIC, NKY and Youngstown's a push.  But, it seems that most road wins will help us.

They've got the Milwaukee win at the ARC helping us, but the Detroit win a push. So, probably a number of wins at the ARC will hurt us.

bbtds

Quote from: StlVUFan on January 06, 2016, 08:32:52 PMWell, it is a half hour away.  I suppose Oakland might be part of the Greater Detroit metropolitan area.  I didn't map the distance between Calihan and Joe Louis, but I'm guessing it's significantly shorter.

Approximately 35 miles from OU to Joe Louis, about 40 minutes.

Aprroximately 10 miles from UDM to Joe Louis, about 15 minutes.

talksalot

Thursday 1/7/16
Green Bay (10-5) 87 Cleveland State (5-11) 67
Milwaukee (11-5) 81 Youngstown State (6-10) 65
Iona (8-6) 67 Rider 58    25 wins in a row at home for the Gaels, now leading their division.

HL Standings and RPIs

Green Bay 3-0    138
Detroit  2-0   117
Valpo 1-0  35
Milwaukee 2-1  173
Oakland 1-1  136
Wright St 1-1 164
Young St 1-2  231
UIC     0-1  344
No Ky 0-2 298
Clev St  0-3  187