Game 7: @ Oregon State 11/24

[justducky]

I had already forgotten how to start a new thread but here goes.

Must win for any at large discussion. I can already hear the March conversations saying "who did they beat" disregarding the fact that nobody would play us.

Did anybody see any of the OSU- Iona game? Will we go back to man or continue to mix in the zone?

Skara could really help with this effort. Will we see more of EVN?

[agibson]

Some links and such.

The game's 8:00 PM central time, 6:00 PM in Oregon

TV: PAC-12 Network, with a replay 8 hours later.
Some seem to have access to the PAC-12 streaming video, if authorized by their TV provider, even if they don't get the channel.

ValpoAthletics page for game info
http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/15078/crusaders-continue-road-trip-at-oregon-state-tuesday-evening/

VU links to WVUR for audio
http://tunein.com/radio/The-Source-951-s23659/
hopefully their stream keeps up better than last time.

Worst case, live stats are at
http://statb.us/b/104137

OSU game notes
http://www.osubeavers.com/pdf9/4160806.pdf

and the OSU athletics page has their own audio link
http://www.osubeavers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?type=live&db_oem_id=30800

Some Oregon State message board links:
http://www.scout.com/college/oregon-state/forums/1708-basketball-talk/14318746-excited-for-valparaiso
http://www.pure-orange.net/bschoops/index.html (with sort of a Reddit flavor?)

and those were the more promising ones! It feels like there ought to be a more active, "main" board out there somewhere? Maybe not, I guess it's a football school?

[agibson]

Not a good day for local media coverage.   Seems like the NWI Times is silent (two games in a row?).  The Post Tribune has a story up, but it's behind the paywall (naturally, I have a subscription to the Times, not the Post Trib).

[agibson]

Vegas lines have been moving around, but favoring Oregon State on their home court, by anywhere from 2.5 points to 4.

Yesterday Pomeroy had

Valpo 26th with 10th best defense, 56th best offense.  Oregon 23rd best (maybe they slipped a little? their defense especially? now at 29th?).

Pomeroy's got Oregon State at 35th.  Giving Valpo a 1.9 point edge on defense (per 100 possessions), but Oregon State a 0.7 point edge on offense.  Close enough they could still be favorites on their home court?

One RealTimeRPI prediction has OSU by 4, but gives Vapo a 40% chance of winning. The other has OSU by 5.

Massey has us 43rd, OSU 46th, and gives OSU a 6 point edge, predicting our lowest score of the season in a 56-60 loss, with a 36% chance of winning.

Sagarin has us 41st, OSU 48th.

Should be a good game.  Would be a great win.

[bbtds]

Oregon State basketball building chemistry but challenge on horizon against remarkably cohesive Valparaiso

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/11/oregon_state_basketball_buildi.html


OSU men's basketball returns home vs. Valparaiso

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/college/oregon-state/2015/11/23/osu-mens-basketball-update/76273538/


Wayne Tinkle leaves four free tickets for fan at will call after Twitter interaction

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/11/wayne_tinkle_leaves_four_free.html#incart_most-read_beavers_article


Oregon State Beavers going for first 5-0 start since 1986 vs. Valparaiso: Gameday preview

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/11/oregon_state_beavers_going_for_1.html#incart_story_package

[historyman]

Just noticed that Oregon State's coach Wayne Tinkle's son, Tres Tinkle plays for his dad. Do you think they call him Little Tinkle or Wee Tinkle?   

[covufan]

From the game stats that come up it appears that Gary Payton II is quite the one man team. He leads in scoring, rebounding, assists, blocks, and steals!


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[bbtds]

Just noticed that Oregon State's coach Wayne Tinkle's son, Tres Tinkle plays for his dad. Do you think they call him Little Tinkle or Wee Tinkle?   

As a matter of fact there was a nice story on the father/son and Tinkle family connection here:

Wayne Tinkle and Tres Tinkle look forward to deepening father-son bond at Oregon State

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/06/wayne_tinkle_and_tres_tinkle_l.html?DB_OEM_ID=30800

[sliman]

Perhaps it's been noted and I overlooked it, but OSU was 17-14 last year, 15-2 at home!  Another example of why the bigs don't want to play good mid-majors on their floors and fear them on neutral courts.

[leftcoast]

There are two coaches sons playing at OSU: Tinkle and one of the assistant's kids also plays.

[agibson]

There are two coaches sons playing at OSU: Tinkle and one of the assistant's kids also plays.

Stephen Thomson and Jr, looks like.

[VULB#62]

Do any of you share the feeling/observation/gut that this team is approaching each 2015-16 game in a much more mature, determined manner than the same kids (excuse me, we are talking men here) last year?  I would hope so. I just look at AP in pressers, see pictures that spotlight the concentration of the guys and can't help but notice that something's different (in a good way).

I (me, just me) only wish Bryce would design more AP-only double screens, pics, whatever .... plays, to get him more scoring opportunities. This is his team.  Everybody knows that. His teammates look to him. He has the potential to dominate in every game, but sometimes he will need help. Yet at times his unselfish play can be unproductive in the grand scheme of things. I am reminded of Dougie McBuckets here. Don't think they didn't design offensive schemes around him? Just sayin ......

[valporun]

Do any of you share the feeling/observation/gut that this team is approaching each 2015-16 game in a much more mature, determined manner than the same kids (excuse me, we are talking men here) last year?  I would hope so. I just look at AP in pressers, see pictures that spotlight the concentration of the guys and can't help but notice that something's different (in a good way).

I (me, just me) only wish Bryce would design more AP-only double screens, pics, whatever .... plays, to get him more scoring opportunities. This is his team.  Everybody knows that. His teammates look to him. He has the potential to dominate in every game, but sometimes he will need help. Yet at times his unselfish play can be unproductive in the grand scheme of things. I am reminded of Dougie McBuckets here. Don't think they didn't design offensive schemes around him? Just sayin ......

A Rowdy 2.0? I mean AP seems to be just as unselfish a player as Ryan Broekoeff was.

[VULB#62]

But maybe that has to change just a wee bit?

[agibson]

Interesting! Opening with Oregon State by 4, the line shifted a -lot-, to Valpo by 1 around 4:30 on central.

Did something happen?

[a3uge]

Can't seem to get the game on ESPN3...

[hailcrusaders]

...and WVUR seems to have lost the feed. Now I'm getting a similar error to the other day. Made it through the first media TO...

[FWalum]

 Same issues as the Oregon game PAC 12's stream does the commercials fine but as soon as we get to the game it starts to mess up. WVUR is giving me the same error as it did in the Oregon game. This is getting really frustrating!

[VULB#62]

On the tracker our D is snuffing them.

[Vale O. Paradise]

Not the same, but you can listen in via Oregon State's online streaming service: http://www.osubeavers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?type=live&db_oem_id=30800

[VULB#62]

7:50 left in the 1st and we've held OSU to 13 points.

[oklahomamick]

Vashil in foul trouble again.  Oregon trip has not been kind to him.  OSU of course has double us, wait tripled us up on free throws. 

[frontrowfan]

any one know what's up with Skara...I know he has an ankle injury.  He's dressed tonight but doesn't look like he is going to play.  We need him with 3 fouls on Vashil

[VULB#62]

We are ahead in pretty much every stat  so far. The D is so tight!i this is something big majors are not used to.

[VULB#62]

Hammock is a monster. Leads Valpo with 8 at 3 minutes.