1/16 - Green Bay @ the ARC

atkins · January 16, 2016, 08:03:52 PM

Our free throw shooting looks like that of a bunch of high schoolers. Against the power conference tourney teams, we won't have the luxury of slow starts and poor free throw shooting.

vu72 · January 16, 2016, 09:07:24 PM

Great crowd, I'd estimate 4500, watching from home. Sloppy game yet won by 15. We aren't going to be perfect every game!

VULB#62 · January 16, 2016, 09:08:38 PM

Cold FT start but 72% by game end. Alec and Vashil with double doubles.

a3uge · January 16, 2016, 09:09:41 PM

Quote from: vu72 on January 16, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
Great crowd, I'd estimate 4500, watching from home. Sloppy game yet won by 15. We aren't going to be perfect every game!

Love how bad, sloppy games are 10+ game victories. Wonder what the Horizon League record is for consecutive 10+ game victories

govalpogo · January 16, 2016, 09:12:09 PM

Gosh, what a pesky GB team. Seemed like they scored 5 points in 5 seconds three separate times (maybe). Hard to argue with a 15 pt victory over the 2nd place team...I guess I'm glad there's room for improvement and hope springs eternal for what this team can do when they hit on all cylinders! Valpo Victory! Watch out for the YSU Giant Killers on Monday

valpolaw · January 16, 2016, 09:18:14 PM

Quote from: atkins on January 16, 2016, 08:03:52 PMOur free throw shooting looks like that of a bunch of high schoolers. Against the power conference tourney teams, we won't have the luxury of slow starts and poor free throw shooting.

Agree, free throws are always problematic for us. We made 26 of 36 free throws for 72%. This isn't horrible, but in close games, those extra points will be needed. Otherwise, great win tonight--just have to keep winning one at a time.

VULB#62 · January 16, 2016, 09:38:14 PM

52-35 rebound advantage is not too shabby. FG% advantage was 48% to 32%.

agibson · January 16, 2016, 09:48:00 PM

Quote from: VULB#62 on January 16, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
Alec and Vashil with double doubles.

Anyone have an idea the last time we had two in a game?

agibson · January 16, 2016, 09:49:39 PM

Quote from: vu72 on January 16, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
Great crowd, I'd estimate 4500, watching from home.

I was guessing they'd list it at 4800 - upper deck nicely full, but not jam packed. Fuller than the HL Championship last year.

Listed at 4939. Listening to conversations in the bleachers, seemed like some bandwagon fans were coming on board. Or, at least, people from around town non-VU, who maybe used to come to games a few seasons ago, were back for the first time this season, that sort of thing. About time!

VULB#62 · January 16, 2016, 09:54:04 PM

Quote from: agibson on January 16, 2016, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 16, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
Alec and Vashil with double doubles.

Anyone have an idea the last time we had two in a game?

That's a double double double

HC · January 16, 2016, 09:57:11 PM

Great time tonight! My team had fun and asked some great questions about college. First time almost any of them had been on a college campus.

Gym was pretty packed. Fun atmosphere, and who doesn't love all the dunks?!

VUfan · January 16, 2016, 09:59:54 PM

Good win, look out for Youngstown State we have a history of slow starts there. Play hard from the start. 5-0 is nice but there 13 more games to play. I think we will have play them all. keep working!!!!!!!!

hailcrusaders · January 16, 2016, 10:04:06 PM

Darien outplayed Tevonn for the first time in a while. Good thing I guess?

agibson · January 16, 2016, 10:04:56 PM

Quote from: a3uge on January 16, 2016, 09:09:41 PMWonder what the Horizon League record is for consecutive 10+ game victories

Butler had five in a row in their undefeated 2009-10 league run, and then another double-digit win in the Bracketbuster.

I'm reminded that season included a 48-47 Butler win at RPI 200+ Loyola. Maybe a good reminder of how hard it is (now that RPI Forecast is going to put our percent chance of going undefeated at.. 23%?).

Butler had four losses non-conference (admittedly, none of them as bad as Ball State... or even Belmont)... until the NCAA final.

agibson · January 16, 2016, 10:09:34 PM

Thinking of the low-scoring Butler one-point win over Loyola.

I do wonder if it would be good to play a couple of games that go down to the wire. I won't enjoy this, and I hope it's because some other team is playing out of their mind. But, it'd probably be good to win a couple of close ones.

I probably felt more nervous, for longer, in tonight's game than any this season. The missed Peters FT to start didn't help, nor the home run ball that they read the whole way and stole. Something about the pace, and the completely different VU offensive game, and the sloppy ball handling, just never let me get comfortable until... maybe that 16-5 run from about 10 minutes left until 5 minutes left. Then it felt pretty safe, if ugly.

I never thought we were going to lose exactly. Just never any kind of comfortable until late in the game.

Fun to see us getting to the rack, and it was the pace of game that seemed likely against Green Bay. But, did we let them dictate the style and tempo too much? We won, by 15, and I guess the defense was pretty good. Certainly the rebounding was. Just never felt like a VU offensive groove. Unless our groove is "whatever works"?

agibson · January 16, 2016, 10:23:45 PM

Quote from: HC on January 15, 2016, 11:55:37 AMI'm bringing my middle school basketball team from Lake Ridge to see this one

I wasn't familiar with the school. Gary? Cool! How'd you get the gig?

justducky · January 16, 2016, 10:34:04 PM

Quote from: agibson on January 16, 2016, 10:09:34 PMWe won, by 15, and I guess the defense was pretty good. Certainly the rebounding was. Just never felt like a VU offensive groove. Unless our groove is "whatever works"?

Once again there was little or no zone played and yes the defense was very good! Our early shooting and offensive execution left much to be desired. In the first half saw several instances of point guard play which looked to specifically open one individual and by that focus missed someone else who was briefly wide open near the bucket. That falls under the category of not being able to see the trees because of the forest.

nkvu · January 16, 2016, 10:41:34 PM

This year Valpo is doing what in past years has been done to them so often by higher ranked schools. That is to say in the past they could hang with those teams sometimes even into the second half but those teams would pull away to win comfortably at the end. Now Valpo is doing that to other teams. Seems to me like a nice step up for the program.

VULB#62 · January 16, 2016, 10:49:52 PM

Quote from: VULB#62 on January 16, 2016, 09:54:04 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 16, 2016, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 16, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
Alec and Vashil with double doubles.

Anyone have an idea the last time we had two in a game?

That's a double double double

Actually Darien was one RB away from a double double too (10 pts, 9 RBs).

That would have been a triple double double!

wh · January 16, 2016, 11:00:04 PM

With Valpo winning and the Packers losing, this die hard Crusader/Bears fan will sleep very comfortably tonight.

talksalot · January 16, 2016, 11:28:25 PM

Quote from: bbtds on January 16, 2016, 02:04:36 PMI'll predict that a team with Green Bay in it's name will lose tonight

Let's see... Final in Womens College basketball...

Green Bay 64 UIC 22

So... it wasn't a complete waste of time being a Green Bay fan!

talksalot · January 16, 2016, 11:38:53 PM

Consecutive double-digit wins...

2005-06

89    74    Centenary - T     6-4
95    64    Oakland - H     7-4 - Non Conference
105    73    Longwood - H     8-4 - Non Conference
80    60    Oral Roberts - H     9-4
88    72    IPFW - H     10-4
82    68    Western Illinois - T     11-4

so we did have 4 consecutive conference wins by more than 10....

someone can have fun finding the last time we did 5 in a row...

oklahomamick · January 16, 2016, 11:40:21 PM

This pesky Green Bay team reminded me of some of the CSU teams of the past. The constant press, hand checking and fouling.

chef · January 17, 2016, 12:36:17 AM

We were never in the same league as IPFW, only IUPUI.

nkvu · January 17, 2016, 12:44:27 AM

D Walker seems to be finding his game. Skara can be bad and good in the same game. Needs to cut down the turnovers and find his 3 point shot to take the next step. Nice to see that the bench can step up when some of the starters struggle. Gives us tremendous flexibility. Have to keep it up each game. No let downs.