Valpo Opponents' Schedule & Results 2016-17

[talksalot]

Time to pickup on who the opposition is playing... and how they make out...

DATE   VALPO Opponent   Team   LOCATION
11/14/2016   Southern Utah   St. Louis   at St. Louis, Mo. (SUU is 0-1, thanks to us)
11/14/2016   Rhode Island   Marist   Providence  (URI, 1-0, Beat Dartmouth by 84-16)
11/15/2016   Oregon   Baylor   Waco (Ore 1-0, beat Army 91-77)
11/15/2016   Alabama   Dayton   Tuscaloosa (Tide 1-0, beat Coastal Carolina 70-53)
11/15/2016   Ball State   Indiana State   Muncie  (Ball State beat Saint Louis 85-64!)
11/15/2016   Kentucky   Michigan State   Lexington (Cats are 2-0, beat SFAustin 87-64, Canisius 93-69)
11/15/2016   Indiana State   Ball State   Muncie  (Indiana State is 0-1, lost in OT to NIU)
11/16/2016   Coppin State   Coastal Carolina   Conway, SC (tonights, opponent, they are 0-1)
11/16/2016   Rhode Island   Brown   Providence
11/17/2016   Coppin State   BYU   Provo, UT
11/17/2016   Missouri State   Fontbonne   Springfield, MO (Bears 2-0, Alabama A&M (96-62) and  JaxState (91-65)
11/17/2016   Chicago State   Wisconsin   Madison (CSU beat Illinois Tech 97-89)
11/18/2016   Southern Utah   Bethesda   Cedar City, Utah
11/18/2016   Coppin State   Utah   Salt Lake City
11/18/2016   Alabama   Ball State   Tuscaloosa
11/18/2016   Ball State   Alabama   Tuscaloosa
11/19/2016   Rhode Island   Cincinnati   Providence
11/19/2016   Indiana State   Missouri-St Louis   Terre Haute
11/19/2016   Santa Clara   Northern Colorado   Santa Clara (0-1, lost to Tennessee State 69-61)!
11/19/2016   Chicago State   Oakland   Rochester MI
11/20/2016   Kentucky   Duquesne   Lexington

maybe a bit early to have a poll... but I'll put one out anyway... 21 opponent games this week, it can't be 21-0... Ball State and Indiana State and Ball State and Alabama play each other.

[talksalot]

I count 13 wins...  SUU vs St Louis will be interesting tonight. (SLU lost by 20+ to Ball State); Santa Clara vs Northern Colorado will also be interesting, SC lost to Tennessee State)... 'Bama-Dayton; URI-Cincy could have a nice impact on our RPI... or a bad impact...

[covufan]

Ball State and Indiana State and Ball State and Alabama play each other.

Aren't these games (and Chicago State Oakland) one win either way?

[talksalot]

Ball State and Indiana State and Ball State and Alabama play each other.

Aren't these games (and Chicago State Oakland) one win either way?

yes, but I only included the HL teams in the schedule if they were playing one of our OOC opponents   ... someone else has the HL schedule thread going...

[talksalot]

DATE   VALPO Opponent   Team   LOCATION11/14/2016   Southern Utah   St. Louis   at St. Louis, Mo. (SUU is 0-1, thanks to us)11/14/2016   Rhode Island   Marist   Providence  (URI, 1-0, Beat Dartmouth by 84-16)

SLU 88-76... Onwuasor scored 20, 13 boards for SUUUUUU.
URI 1,452 - Marist 65... ok... so it wasn't THAT bad... 107-65

and if you're looking for something to do Tuesday afternoon... Baylor @ Oregon... 2:30pm Central... you all should be awake by then after staying up for the GB @ Pacific 1:00am tip.

[talksalot]

Dayton dumped Tide 77-72 in Tuscaloosa.   
Baylor dumped Ducks 66-49 in Waco.
the Valpo strength of opponents is taking a hit in the 24-hours kickoff event.  GB loses, Oregon loses, Bama loses,

[FieldGoodie05]

The HL is not going to get an at large bid any time soon.  But interesting nonetheless.

[talksalot]

11/15/2016   Oregon LOSES AT  Baylor   Waco (Ore 1-1)
11/15/2016   Alabama LOSES TO  Dayton   Tuscaloosa (Tide 1-1)
11/15/2016   Kentucky DEMOLISHES  Michigan State   Lexington (Cats are 3-0)
11/15/2016   Indiana State BEATS  Ball State   Muncie  (Indiana State is 1-1)
11/15/2016   Ball State LOSES TO  Indiana State 80-74  Muncie  (Ball State is 1-1)

so, after 2 days... our opponents have 2 wins. (not including the pushes), Kentucky and Rhode Island.

[Valpower]

Rhode Island squeaks by Brown--they of the last-place-predicted finish in the Ivy League.  At home.

[talksalot]

Coppin State falls to 0-3 after a 89-59 drubbing by Coastal Carolina, now 1-2. They were 7-34 from 2-point range last night, 12-36 from 3-point range.  This morning, the eagles got up early to drive down to Charleston to catch a flight to Salt Lake City. They get into SLC about 2:30pm, a 2-hour bus ride from the airport ... and Tip Off in Provo TONIGHT against BYU at 7pm.... oh to be young again!

Brown outscored URI 39-38 in the second half, but did fall 79-72.  URI now 3-0; Brown 1-2.

so after 3 days... our opponents have 3 wins and a push.

Tonight... other than the Coppin - BYU mistake (this may turn into a push), Chicago State rides into the Kohl Center to take on the Badgers... and the MoState Bears (2-0) host the 'powerful' (cough) Fontbonne University in the Griffins season opener.  Fontbonne is picked 10th in the 10-team "Saint Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference."

[talksalot]

11/17/2016   BYU 96 Coppin State 59
11/17/2016   Missouri State 100  Fontbonne  27   
11/17/2016   Wisconsin 69 Chicago State 51

so after 4 days, the opponents have 4 wins and a push.

Friday?   Looks like one more win, and another push.

11/18/2016   Southern Utah   Bethesda   Cedar City, Utah
11/18/2016   Coppin State   Utah   Salt Lake City
11/18/2016   Alabama   Ball State   Tuscaloosa  -- Push.

[talksalot]

11/18/2016   Southern Utah   Bethesda   Cedar City, Utah 108-92   1
11/18/2016   Coppin State   Utah   Salt Lake City   51-94
11/18/2016   Alabama   Ball State   Tuscaloosa   77 59  push
11/18/2016   Ball State   Alabama   Tuscaloosa   59-77  push
11/19/2016   Rhode Island   Cincinnati   Providence  76-71 Nice win for the Rams!
11/19/2016   Indiana State   Missouri-St Louis   Terre Haute  96-55
11/19/2016   Santa Clara   Northern Colorado   Santa Clara 88-72
11/19/2016   Chicago State   Oakland   Rochester MI   79-107
11/20/2016   Kentucky   Duquesne   Lexington  93-59

OK, I count a total of 9 wins, not including the pushes... the OOC opponents did some major let downs this week   Oregon losing to Baylor and Bama losing to Dayton.   

Lets hope for a good week... starting late Monday Night!   

[talksalot]

Busy week in College hoops... showing the Monday-Morning-Sagarin ratings... Valpo is #100 this morning.

11/21/2016 #195   Santa Clara   Sacred Heart   Santa Clara   
11/21/2016 #331   Southern Utah   Coastal Carolina   at Las Vegas, Nev.    
11/21/2016 #346   Coppin State   Ball State   Las Vegas Tourney   Push
11/21/2016 #32   Oregon   Georgetown   Maui Invitational   
11/21/2016 #145   Ball State   Coppin State   Las Vegas Tourney   Push
11/22/2016 #32   Oregon   Tennessee/Wisconsin   Maui Invitational   
11/22/2016 #341   Chicago State   East-West University   Chicago   
11/23/2016 #331   Southern Utah   Ball State   at Las Vegas, Nev.    Push
11/23/2016 #32   Oregon   Tba   Maui Invitational   
11/23/2016 #52   Alabama   TBA   Las Vegas Tourney   
11/23/2016 #145     Ball State   Southern Utah   Las Vegas Tourney   Push
11/23/2016 #5     Kentucky   Cleveland State   Lexington   Push
11/23/2016 #92   Missouri State   DePaul   Chicago   
11/24/2016 #118   Indiana State   Iowa State   Orlando FL Tourney   
11/24/2016 #195   Santa Clara   Arizona   Las Vegas Tourney   
11/25/2016 #346   Coppin State   Grand Canyon   Phoenix   
11/25/2016 #37   Rhode Island   Belmont   Providence   
11/25/2016 #5     Kentucky   Tennessee-Martin   Lexington   
11/25/2016 #118   Indiana State   Stanford/ Miami   Orlando FL Tourney   
11/25/2016 #195   Santa Clara   Vanderbilt/Butler   Las Vegas Tourney   
11/26/2016 #331   Southern Utah   Life Pacific   Cedar City, Utah    
11/26/2016 #346   Chicago State   Notre Dame   South Bend   
11/27/2016 #92   Missouri State   North Dakota State   Springfield, MO   
11/27/2016 #118   Indiana State   tba   Orlando FL Tourney   

[vu72]

Georgetown just beat oregon with Dillon Brooks in maui

Makes the loss look very bad.

[talksalot]

11/21/2016    Santa Clara   Sacred Heart   Santa Clara   up 8 late
11/21/2016    Coastal Carolina  83 Southern Utah 68 Las Vegas Tournament
11/21/2016    Ball State 79 Coppin State 77 Las Vegas Tourney   Push
11/21/2016    Georgetown 75 Oregon 71   Maui Invitational   

Bucknell 75 Vanderbilt 72 part of the other Las Vegas Tournament oh, wait.  that doesn't matter... except that my sister is a Bucknell alum and that's the real reason I put that in here.

and the Winner of the Valpo -Bama game gets BYU... who just destroyed SLU over the last 10 minutes...92-62, BYU is 4-0, SLU is 2-2.  11,050 watching that game at the buzzer on the youtube channel.

[valpotx]

Yikes, Bryce is going to have a tough time after that loss to Bucknell.  They aren't the same quality team from a few years ago (2011-2012/2012-2013 seasons), and had just lost to Butler by 26.

[oklahomamick]

Yikes, Bryce is going to have a tough time after that loss to Bucknell.  They aren't the same quality team from a few years ago (2011-2012/2012-2013 seasons), and had just lost to Butler by 26.

That was Byrce's first loss to Butler and it was a bad one. 

Way way too early....but what if Bryce doesn't have success there?  Does he go to another mid-major?  Does he become an assistant?  I believe in time he will turn it around.  But very interesting to speculate

[valpotx]

They play Butler on Thursday.  I was mentioning that Bucknell isn't the same quality team from a few years back and lost to Butler by 26, yet Vandy lost to Bucknell.

[valpo84]

Not sure what the comment about Scott underperforming was, but Scott has exceeded all expectations in his 14 years at Baylor (wow that's hard to believe it's been 14 years).  He has competed for Big 12 tournament titles, been a perennial NCAA team and has sent a number of talented players to the NBA all without any major issues.  He righted the ship there after Bliss and has a 252-172 record (essentially highest winning percentage of any Baylor coach) despite a completely decimated program when he took over (21-63 his first 3 years). Not to mention his Christian outreach.  Baylor was not a basketball school before Scott got there and it is clearly a upper tier program now.  Moreover, it is still a private school in the middle of a conference of Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas.

And, can we please let Bryce have some time to learn the SEC and build his program.  We want him to have success too as that does reflect well on what he learned and accomplished at Valpo.  In fact, their struggles show that Stallings didn't exactly leave the cupboard full and maybe why he left.  Those last 4 years weren't exactly stellar, but Vandy will have patience as long as they are competing for NCAA bids.  Again a private school in the midst of Kentucky, Tennessee, and LSU basketball.  Although competing in the SEC doesn't take much as we have seen with Alabama last night.

[talksalot]

11/22/16:   Oregon gets Tennessee 12:30pm CT on ESPN2 in the Consolation round game.

Fun game to watch... Indiana AT Fort Wayne (8pm Central) in front of "the largest crowd to ever watch a basketball game in the Coliseum"... "been sold out for about a year".  The Mastadon's are favored to win the Summit.

[hailcrusaders]

11/22/16:   Oregon gets Tennessee 12:30pm CT on ESPN2 in the Consolation round game. Fun game to watch... Indiana AT Fort Wayne (8pm Central) in front of "the largest crowd to ever watch a basketball game in the Coliseum"... "been sold out for about a year".  The Mastadon's are favored to win the Summit.

How did IPFW Fort Wayne manage this and how can we do it

[a3uge]

11/22/16:   Oregon gets Tennessee 12:30pm CT on ESPN2 in the Consolation round game. Fun game to watch... Indiana AT Fort Wayne (8pm Central) in front of "the largest crowd to ever watch a basketball game in the Coliseum"... "been sold out for about a year".  The Mastadon's are favored to win the Summit.

How did IPFW Fort Wayne manage this and how can we do it

IU is handling the tickets for this game, so it's essentially a home game to appease their Fort Wayne recruits/fanbase.

[vu72]

11/22/16:   Oregon gets Tennessee 12:30pm CT on ESPN2 in the Consolation round game. Fun game to watch... Indiana AT Fort Wayne (8pm Central) in front of "the largest crowd to ever watch a basketball game in the Coliseum"... "been sold out for about a year".  The Mastadon's are favored to win the Summit.

How did IPFW Fort Wayne manage this and how can we do it

IU is handling the tickets for this game, so it's essentially a home game to appease their Fort Wayne recruits/fanbase.

And I think it is a state school/state school or more likely parent/child thing.  They will never come to the ARC.  I use to lobby Creen about it and never got any hope from him.

[M]

Fort Wayne managed this in a similar way Valpo managed to get Purdue in the building a few years back, by losing their town's best hoopers to those big schools.

[valpo64]

Ft. Wayne  was only given about 2,500 tickets, from which they had to use some for comps.  IU called all the shots as it basically is a home game for them as they took 7,500 tickets.  It will be on the Big 10 Network.  A number of years back IU played  pre-season intra-squad games in FW and sold out the place every year.  They discontinued the game at FW when the NCAA would not allow  schools to play these games so far away from their campus.