Valpo Opponents' Schedule & Results 2016-17

[talksalot]

Ball State is favored by 6.5 over Western Michigan in Muncie, Failed to cover,but won 84-78 - GOOD
Loyola is favored by 1.5 over Indiana State in Terre Haute, Ramblers covered, 81-66 - BAD
Rhode Island is favored by 6.5 over St. Bonnie in Rhode Island, Rams covered, 71-59 - GOOD
Grand Canyon is at Chicago State - No Line, Cougars lost 85-77 - BAD
Morgan State is at Coppin State - No Line, Eagles lost 76-74 - BAD
Bama is favored by 7 over Mississippi State at Tuscaloosa, Tide Covered 71-62 - GOOD
Southern Utah is favored by 1.5 over Northern Colorado at home, SUU failed to cover or win, NC 89-71 - BAD
Youngstown State is favored by 1 over Cleveland State at the Beeghly. Guins covered 67-64 - PUSH
Kansas beat Kentucky 79-72 - BAD "Can you say 2-seed?" - BAD
Southern Illinois is favored by 2.5 over Missouri State in Springfield - Salukis 85-84 - BAD
BYU is favored by 12.5 over Loyola-Marymount in Utah, Cougars won 86-77 - GOOD
St. Mary's is favored by 10 over Santa Clara at Santa Clara, Gaels covered 72-59 - BAD
Oregon is favored by 6.5 over Colorado east of the Rockies, Yuuch, Buff's 74-65 as the Ducks Flopped - BAD

That's 4 "Good" 8 "Bad" and one "Push"

So we wake up on this snowy morning #66, .5694 in the RPI; and a half-game lead in the HL:

1pm/noon:  Milwaukee @ Oakland
2pm/1pm:  Green Bay @ Detroit
4pm/3pm:  Wright State @ UIC

[talksalot]

So we wake up on this snowy morning #66, .5694 in the RPI; and a half-game lead in the HL:

1pm/noon:  Oakland 79 Milwaukee 70 Overtime; Jalen Hayes had 23-14 on Friday in their loss to Green Bay; had 22-11 in their win today. that's 45-15 on the weekend, but they didn't win both games, and he did get 5 of the rebounds in the overtime period that should never have happened.

2pm/1pm:  Detroit 93 Green Bay 92  DeShawndre Black's 3-point play with 12 seconds left gave Detroit Mercy a 93-92 victory; UDM's Hogan with 28-4 (had 15-11 on Friday, for a 43-15 weekend, but they lost on Friday to Milwaukee)

4pm/3pm:  Wright State 88 UIC 86  Alstork with 24, Mitchell had 14 and 10

Valpo the only team in the league to go 2-0 on the weekend.  Shane Hammink scored 21 points and Alec Peters added 16 points and 12 rebounds, to go with 25 points and 14 rebounds  on Friday for 41 and 26 and the school career Free Throw Champion on the weekend, and the National Lead in Career Points for an active player with over 2200 points.   

Youngstown 1-0 only playing the one game against Cleveland State; Morse had 23 points and 2 rebounds for the 'Guins.

My AP bias is huge... but he should get that 9th POW on Monday...or will the league office ignore the final scores and look at the stats.

So we end the weekend #61, .5727 in the RPI; and a one-and-a-half-game lead in the HL.

In a 5-way tie for the longest winning streak in the country at 7... tied with Monmouth, Mt. St. Mary's, Navy and Sam Houston State.

in a 5-way tie for the 25th best D1 record in the country... tied with Illinois State, Northwestern, West Virginia and...let's see, oh yeh, Kentucky.

[oklahomamick]

Oakland should easily be 4-6 in conference.  5 seconds left with uwm shooting 3 free throws.  At that point I wonder what the odds are that Oakland loses.  And uic crazy non call at the end of the game, Oakland Lucky to be 6-4 rather than 4-6

[talksalot]

so, now we know... Wins and Losses are not as important as the stat sheet.

NDIANAPOLIS – Oakland's Jalen Hayes has been named Horizon League Player of the Week after he posted back-to-back double-doubles, averaging 22.5 points and 12 rebounds, while converting a league-best 22-of-29 (75.9 percent) from the field.

Player of the Week | Jalen Hayes | Oakland | R-Jr. | Forward | Lansing, Mich.
Hayes recorded back-to-back double-doubles, his fifth during Horizon League play. The Lansing, Mich., native scored game-highs in both outings, tallying 23 and 22 points respectively. Hayes shot an impressive 76 percent from the floor, going 22-of-29 in the two games, to lead all league players in field goal percentage.

Sunday's win over Milwaukee marked the 19th time in his last 20 league games Hayes reached double figures. He led the Golden Grizzlies in two games averaging 22.5 points and 12.0 rebounds.

This is Hayes' first career player of the week honor and is the first for an Oakland player since Feb. 22, 2016, when Kay Felder earned his seventh weekly honor of the 2015-16 season – the most single-season player of the week honors in Horizon League history.

2016-17 Horizon League Players of the Week
Nov. 14 – Mark Alstork, Wright State
Nov. 21 – Mark Alstork, Wright State
Nov. 28 – Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Dec. 5 – Drew McDonald, Northern Kentucky | Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Dec. 12 – Lavone Holland II, Northern Kentucky
Dec. 19 – Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Dec. 26 – Tai Odiase, UIC
Jan. 2 – Charles Cooper, Green Bay
Jan. 9 – Drew McDonald, Northern Kentucky
Jan. 16 – Jaleel Hogan, Detroit
Jan. 23 – Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Jan. 30 – Jalen Hayes, Oakland

[vusupporter]

I'm sure the fact his FG% was about 40% higher than Alec's had nothing to do with it.

[a3uge]

22-29 is impressive. Alec struggled last game. It's a team sport and these are individual stats.

Look at it this way: thank god we have things to be excited about beyond these awards. Oakland hasn't been a top 100 RPI team in several years, so beyond these awards, what do their fans have to look forward to at this point? Another Vegas 16 tournament appearance? An upset of the top team? At best, a 15 seed in the tournament? Let them have their awards, they need it.

[SanityLost17]

so, now we know... Wins and Losses are not as important as the stat sheet.

NDIANAPOLIS – Oakland's Jalen Hayes has been named Horizon League Player of the Week after he posted back-to-back double-doubles, averaging 22.5 points and 12 rebounds, while converting a league-best 22-of-29 (75.9 percent) from the field.

Player of the Week | Jalen Hayes | Oakland | R-Jr. | Forward | Lansing, Mich.
Hayes recorded back-to-back double-doubles, his fifth during Horizon League play. The Lansing, Mich., native scored game-highs in both outings, tallying 23 and 22 points respectively. Hayes shot an impressive 76 percent from the floor, going 22-of-29 in the two games, to lead all league players in field goal percentage.

Sunday's win over Milwaukee marked the 19th time in his last 20 league games Hayes reached double figures. He led the Golden Grizzlies in two games averaging 22.5 points and 12.0 rebounds.

This is Hayes' first career player of the week honor and is the first for an Oakland player since Feb. 22, 2016, when Kay Felder earned his seventh weekly honor of the 2015-16 season – the most single-season player of the week honors in Horizon League history.

2016-17 Horizon League Players of the Week
Nov. 14 – Mark Alstork, Wright State
Nov. 21 – Mark Alstork, Wright State
Nov. 28 – Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Dec. 5 – Drew McDonald, Northern Kentucky | Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Dec. 12 – Lavone Holland II, Northern Kentucky
Dec. 19 – Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Dec. 26 – Tai Odiase, UIC
Jan. 2 – Charles Cooper, Green Bay
Jan. 9 – Drew McDonald, Northern Kentucky
Jan. 16 – Jaleel Hogan, Detroit
Jan. 23 – Alec Peters, Valparaiso
Jan. 30 – Jalen Hayes, Oakland

I think that Peters/Hammink/Tevonn are all top 10 players in the league.  However, I highly doubt all three make it on 1st or 2nd team at the end of the season.  The league will award stat getters from terrible teams.  Also, the problem for Tevonn is that his contributions don't always show up in the stats, but I would take him top 10 in a HL draft any day of the week.  We are 1/2 way through the conference season, somebody should start a thread for "mid-season" awards if the season were to end today.  That could be fun.

[talksalot]

None of our opponents are playing tonight... but the game to track is North Florida vs. Florida Gulf Coast

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400918778

or watch it on espn3

UNF #14 is Dallas Moore.  The guy in a dog fight with Alec Peters for the Career Points lead.  Alec leads by 16 going into tonight.  So far, he has 8 points coming up to the under 12 media in the first half.

[talksalot]

UNF #14 is Dallas Moore.  The guy in a dog fight with Alec Peters for the Career Points lead.  Alec leads by 16 going into tonight.  So far, he has 8 points coming up to the under 12 media in the first half.

So, I'm sure you already know... Dallas Moore... scored 17 points tonight in their blowout loss to FGCU. 4 if 9 from 2pt, 3 of 9 from 3pt and missed his only free-throw attempt...

so, until Thursday... he has a 1-point lead on AP for the career points lead.

[talksalot]

we started Monday...  #61, .5727 none of our opponents played today; and are at #61 .5725 dropping two 10,000th's of a point.

Tuesday's schedule, and a rarity... all of our opponents are at home and are favored!   which means absolutely nothing!

Toledo at Ball State (Cards favored by 3.5)
George Washington at Rhode Island (Rams favored by 10.5)
Loyola at Missouri State (Most favored by 2)
Georgia at Kentucky ( 'cats favored by 16.5)

[oklahomamick]

Sanitylost17, they started one on the HL blog.  Of course and like many years before, not very many valpo guys making the list.  Very disrespectful

[FWalum]

Sanitylost17, they started one on the HL blog.  Of course and like many years before, not very many valpo guys making the list.  Very disrespectful

Which one and where?

[oklahomamick]

http://horizonleaguefans.freeforums.net/thread/988/half

[talksalot]

Tuesday's schedule, and a rarity... all of our opponents are at home and are favored!   which means absolutely EVERYTHING!   4-0 ON THE NIGHT!

Toledo at Ball State (Cards favored by 3.5) Cards 81-80... but they really tried to give it away!
George Washington at Rhode Island (Rams favored by 10.5)... tied at 69,  Rhode Island closes on 13-1 run to beat George Washington
Loyola at Missouri State (Most favored by 2).... failed to cover, but 1 is enough 82-81 in Overtime!
Georgia at Kentucky ( 'cats favored by 16.5) 90-81 in Overtime.  Mr. Monk had a decent second half.

Started Tuesday at #61 .5725
Ended Tuesday at #58  .5738,  with only the Wyoming @ San Diego State game left...

[talksalot]

The Wednesday Festivities....starting at #58  .5738

Alabama at Arkansas (Hogs favored by 10)
Evansville at Indiana State (Sycs favored by 4)

(Vegas says RockChalk favored by 6.5 over Scotty)

[justducky]

Hmmmm   Is it even mathematically possible for a team to now have a 14-7 record and be saddled with an RPI of 207 

Well maybe if your OOC schedule is ranked 349 and you played in a weak MAC conference which encourages cream puff non-con schedules so they can boost RPIs 

Yes!!! We are speaking of Ball St and we possess two of the same anchor wins they have in 331 Coppin St, and 345 Southern Utah.

Question? We signed up for a OOC Tournament which gave us Alabama and BYU on a neutral court but in the fine print we had to host 2 of the worst teams in college basketball. Net, net was this worth it 

[Kyle321n]

Question? We signed up for a OOC Tournament which gave us Alabama and BYU on a neutral court but in the fine print we had to host 2 of the worst teams in college basketball. Net, net was this worth it 

Ok, who do we schedule instead of those 4 games? Could we actually get 4 D-1 schools?

[talksalot]

The Wednesday Festivities....starting at #58  .5738

Alabama at Arkansas (Hogs favored by 10) Razorbacks covered, and thensome... 87-69
Evansville at Indiana State (Sycs favored by 4)  Took'em an overtime, but ISU prevailed 85-84.

so the OOC OPP go 1-1

and Baylor just threw the ball out of bounds with 1.3 seconds to, down 3 at Phogg Allen.

Valpo's RPI #56   .5739  climbed two spots and 1  10,000th of point.

[bbtds]

Hmmmm   Is it even mathematically possible for a team to now have a 14-7 record and be saddled with an RPI of 207 

Well maybe if your OOC schedule is ranked 349 and you played in a weak MAC conference which encourages cream puff non-con schedules so they can boost RPIs 

Yes!!! We are speaking of Ball St and we possess two of the same anchor wins they have in 331 Coppin St, and 345 Southern Utah.

Question? We signed up for a OOC Tournament which gave us Alabama and BYU on a neutral court but in the fine print we had to host 2 of the worst teams in college basketball. Net, net was this worth it 

What do Wright State and Ball State have in common?

[oklahomamick]

I attended the #14 cincinnati at Tulsa game last night.  I ran into a friend who is on staff at oru. Oru is having a historic bad year after having a bad year last year. 

I inquired about the down years at oru and the coach simply said we don't have the talent and recruiting has been taking a hit.

I asked what changed? 

He responded that the university doesn't provide cost of living with the scholarship until junior year and the amount is very small compared to other schools. 

Since our players live on campus the first couple years, does VU pay cost of living on top of the scholarship? What do the other horizon league teams do?  Is there a chance uic and northern Kentucky pay a great deal more to the players than valpo? 

[talksalot]

Starting Thursday, Valpo's RPI #56   .5739 

UDM @ Cleveland State 6pm - Vikings favored by 6.5
OAK @ Youngstown State 6pm - Grizz favored by 7.5
UIC @ Green Bay 7pm - Phoenix favored by 8
Santa Clara @ Portland 9pm - Broncos favored by 5
Arizona State @ Oregon 10pm - Ducks by 17 FoxSports 1
Gonzaga @ BYU 10pm - Bulldogs favored by 8 ESPN 2


The line on the game tonight has fallen to 8.5, starting yesterday morning at 10... The O/U at 134...up from 129

[talksalot]

Starting Thursday, Valpo's RPI #56   .5739  ... Immediately after the VU Win was posted, the RPI climbed to 55... very briefly.

UDM @ Cleveland State 6pm - Vikings favored by 6.5 CSU 90 UDM 73
OAK @ Youngstown State 6pm - Grizz favored by 7.5  OAK 90 YSU 76
UIC @ Green Bay 7pm - Phoenix favored by 8 - GB 84 UIC 80

Three in the books and three to go:  #57  0.5734 That's what happens when you play #259 (who climbed to 258 on the loss)

Santa Clara @ Portland 9pm - Broncos favored by 5
Arizona State @ Oregon 10pm - Ducks by 17 FoxSports 1
Gonzaga @ BYU 10pm - Bulldogs favored by 8 ESPN 2


The line on the Milwaukee game tonight has fallen to 8.5, starting yesterday morning at 10... The O/U at 134...up from 129... so... 71-53... we covered the spread but not the OU

[talksalot]

Three in the books and three to go:  #57  0.5734 That's what happens when you play #259 (who climbed to 258 on the loss)

Santa Clara @ Portland 9pm - Broncos favored by 5 - Jared Brownridge had three 3-pointers and 17 points, Santa Clara held Portland to 16 second-half points to win 60-45
Arizona State @ Oregon 10pm - Ducks by 17 FoxSports 1 - Dillon Brooks scored 27 points, including the last 12 of the game for #13 Oregon, and the Ducks escaped with a 71-70 victory
Gonzaga @ BYU 10pm - Bulldogs favored by 8 ESPN 2 - and they covered 85-75

and the RPI ends Thursday:  #57   0.5735     BYU at 96, 'Bama at 67 and URI at 44 are helping, AND, Santa Clara is at #144.  Which is answering one of the questions posed earlier... Oakland has fallen to #145.... now our worst loss of the season.

Friday 2/3 Action:

Rhode Island at Davidson, the Wildcats are favored by 4.
Buffalo at Ball State, the Cardinals are favored by 10.

[justducky]

What do Wright State and Ball State have in common?

Since nobody else will bite let me be the straight man. After exhaustive research I have discovered that both are located on planet Earth and both are named after 19'th century primates.

Your turn.

[talksalot]

They have both beaten Valpo one more time that we have beaten them (WSU 14-15, Ball State 31-32)... although Santa Clara would now be on that list... 0-1

They both have 15 wins on the season