Mid Major Rankings

[oklahomamick]

SB NATION

RANK    TEAM    RECORD    LAST WEEK    POINTS
1    Saint Mary's (5)    3-0    2    196
2    Gonzaga (3)    3-0    1    195
3    Rhode Island    4-1    3    176
4    Wichita State    4-0    5    175
5    VCU    3-0    6    157
6    BYU    3-0    10    146
7    Dayton    2-1    4    138
8    Northern Iowa    3-1    16    134
9    Valparaiso    3-1    8    120
10    Davidson    3-1    11    109
11    San Diego State    2-1    7    106
12    UNC-Wilmington    3-0    17    101
13    New Mexico    3-0    15    78
14    George Washington    3-0    19    63
15    Ohio    3-0    NR    48
16    Yale    2-1    NR    47
17    St. Bonaventure    1-1    20    46
18    Florida Gulf Coast    1-3    NR    38
18    Saint Joseph's    3-1    NR    38
20    Nevada    3-1    25    37
21    Princeton    0-2    9    36
22    UT-Arlington    1-3    13    35
23    Chattanooga    3-2    23    32
24    Monmouth    1-2    12    31
25    Utah State    3-0    NR    27

COLLEGE INSIDER
1.    Gonzaga (22)    3-0    764    1    West Coast
2.    Saint Mary's (8)    3-0    748    2    West Coast
3.    Wichita State    4-0    715    3    Missouri Valley
4.    UNCW    3-0    663    6    Colonial
5.    BYU    3-0    611    12    West Coast
6.    Valparaiso    3-1    569    7    Horizon
7.    Ohio    3-0    541    13    Mid-American
8.    Illinois State    1-1    490    9    Missouri Valley
9.    Belmont    1-1    476    11    Ohio Valley
10.    Chattanooga    3-2    449    8    Southern
11.    Monmouth    1-3    430    4    Metro Atlantic
12.    Northern Iowa (1)    3-1    399    17    Missouri Valley
13.    UT Arlington    1-3    375    5    Sun Belt
14.    Stephen F. Austin    2-1    323    20    Southland
15.    Princeton    0-2    287    10    Ivy League
16.    Yale    2-1    282    18    Ivy League
17.    North Dakota State    4-1    254    19    Summit
18.    Fort Wayne    2-2    245    16    Summit
19.    Long Beach State    1-4    171    15    Big West
20.    Tennessee State    4-0    144    NR    Ohio Valley
21.    Florida Gulf Coast    1-3    143    21    Atlantic Sun
22.    ETSU    3-1    117    21    Southern
23.    South Alabama    5-0    109    NR    Sun Belt
24.    Oakland    4-0    96    NR    Horizon
25.    Arkansas State    4-1    92    NR    Sun Belt

[talksalot]

Sagarin has the Horizon as #17 conference...

  86  Oakland-Mich.               77.47    3   0  (interesting, Grizz only has 2 D-1 wins BowlGrn by 7 and WestMich by 17)
  88  Valparaiso                   77.34    3   1
 136  Green Bay                    72.93    2   2
 177  Wright State                 70.98    2   1
 196  Northern Kentucky         69.72    2   2 
 198  Illinois-Chicago             69.69    1   1
 241  Cleveland State              66.17    1   2
 253  Youngstown State             65.31    2   3
 255  Detroit                      65.23    0   3
 293  Milwaukee                    62.37    0   2

*Oakland gets the 1:30am (ET) slot at the Great Alaska Shootout against Nevada early Thursday morning

[VU2014]

Martez Walker (Oakland: Junior) and Dikembe Dixson (UIC: Sophomore) are going to give Alec a run for his $ for the Horizon League player of the year. Alec is still probably the favorite.

[VUSWIM08-12]

don't forget about Mark Alstork for the Raiders...averaging over 30/game through 4 games...and Cameron Morse for the Penguins!

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/year/2017/seasontype/2/group/50

[FWalum]

 Not sure where to put this, but I would guess that the Fort Wayne Mastodons will be entering the poll after their victory over #3 Indiana University By 3 in overtime. Probably should be glad we're not playing them a return game at the memorial coliseum this year.

[bbtds]

Not sure where to put this, but I would guess that the Fort Wayne Mastodons will be entering the poll after their victory over #3 Indiana University By 3 in overtime. Probably should be glad we're not playing them a return game at the memorial coliseum this year.

IU won't be playing anyone in the state at this rate (minus Purdue). Maybe they can just play all the other IU schools without Purdue in the title (IUSB, IUNW, IUSE, IUK, IUC, IUE)

[Valpower]

It is also never great for a team when the team you are going against cares so much more about a game than you do

That's probably never the case, rather it's that one team cares more about winning and the other about not losing.

[a3uge]

The most amazing part about that game was that IPFW's center and leading scorer fouled out and they still won. They played with confidence for most the game (last 5 min of regulation not withstanding), and a lot of that has to do with the fact they were playing at home.

Kudos to ipfw for taking advantage of the unlikely circumstance. When this was scheduled, I'm sure IU assumed this would be a cake walk as ipfw has improved considerably in the past few years. It goes to show that winning on the road is difficult, and if power conference teams actually played half their games on the road, there wouldn't be as big of a perceived gap between mid majors and power conference schools come selection Sunday. It's incredibly frustrating that this will lead to even less road games and more RPI gaming, and the likes will all continue to get rewarded for cowardly schedules.

[FWalum]

There were a lot of interesting things that Fort Wayne did to get IU back to Fort Wayne.  Bobby Knight use to come up to the Memorial Coliseum and play games every once in a while, not against Fort Wayne, but against other non-conference teams.  Some donors from the area talked to Crean and the AD about playing here and they agreed as long as this was an IU HOME game and season ticket holders could get into the game as if it were in Bloomington.  IU was given over 7000 tickets and they were allowed to set the ticket prices and much to Fort Wayne's dismay (because they knew they could probably sell the place out no matter what the price was) the prices were set relatively low compared to what Fort Wayne wanted to sell them.  This really reduced Fort Wayne's take from this game and they were pretty upset about it.

As many have mentioned, this is a great win for Fort Wayne, but it will make it infinitely more difficult for them and other Mid Majors to schedule power conference teams at home and even  neutral sites.  I doubt if IU will ever play in Fort Wayne again.  However, I can't wait to talk to Coach Coffman next Tuesday before his coach's show.

[agibson]

A nice bump for Valpo to #3 in the College Insider coaches poll. It's going to be hard to pass Gonzaga and St. Mary's. Unless they start laying eggs, or we beat Kentucky (!).

BYU tumbles all the way to #14 - hopefully more about Utah Valley State than about us.

Oakland hangs around at 25, Wright State #31.

Funny that the Sagarin keeps Oakland so high, still above us at 83 vs 85. Ken Pom has us at 75, to Oakland's 132.

The RPI's maybe starting to be meaningful (as much as it ever is, perhaps... before things are watered down by the big conference teams flashing their gaudy non-conference records at each other).Valpo 93, Wright State 125, Oakland 136. And the Horizon overall at a dismal #19. Barely above Southland. Below SoCon. Below the OVC. Below the surprisingly strong Sun Belt.