NCAA College Basketball Talk

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1015277320423247872

[VUGrad1314]

According to this thread Northern Kentucky will begin a 4 year home and home series with Cincinnati in 2019. http://horizonleaguefans.freeforums.net/thread/1114/hl-non-con-schedules?page=1&scrollTo=3545

My mistake . The NKU\UC series starts THIS YEAR.


https://twitter.com/dontribunesport/status/1015045828409483265

[VUGrad1314]

NKU will host its own MTE.  Interesting. Wonder who's involved. All teams involved have made at least one NCAA Tournament since 2013.

https://twitter.com/dontribunesport/status/1016419799897985024

[VUGrad1314]

This should be good. Can't see the grounds on which they could challenge the NCAA's decision. Methinks this one should be over quickly.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1016716465687314432

[VU2014]

NKU will host its own MTE.  Interesting. Wonder who's involved. All teams involved have made at least one NCAA Tournament since 2013.

https://twitter.com/dontribunesport/status/1016419799897985024

It's starting to become a trend for mids in lower leagues to create their own tourney's if they don't have the brand name recognition or resources to get into some of the better neutral site tournaments. Oakland and NKU both are hosting their own tournaments. I'm not sure how much it ultimately is a helpful tournament from a resume perspective but it gives their fans home games.

This should be good. Can't see the grounds on which they could challenge the NCAA's decision. Methinks this one should be over quickly.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1016716465687314432

They could just be trying to drawn the NCAA in legal fees to get them to reverse their decision. UNC is was successful at spending tens of millions of dollars on legal fees.

[VUGrad1314]

Of course the reverse is that we may learn even more about the depths of depravity to which Pitino's Louisville program allegedly sunk. Seems like a risky play for not much potential gain.

[VUGrad1314]

Wonder what happened here. Is he transferring?  His numbers sure look good. Yes I know we don't need a PG.

https://twitter.com/MiamiOH_BBall/status/1016458145743417344

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4279433/darrian-ringo

Verbal Commits says he's transferring:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/darrian-ringo

[wh]

Wonder what happened here. Is he transferring?  His numbers sure look good. Yes I know we don't need a PG.

https://twitter.com/MiamiOH_BBall/status/1016458145743417344

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4279433/darrian-ringo

Verbal Commits says he's transferring:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/darrian-ringo

...no longer part of the team
...no further comment at this time

Sounds like a perfect Oakland Grizzlies candidate.

[VUGrad1314]

Cool series on Mid-Major Madness starting with this article largely about George Mason's 2006 team that will explain why these runs that shocked the nation really weren't so shocking. Teams to be profiled:

2006 George Mason

2010&2011 Butler

2011 VCU

2013 Wichita State

2018 Loyola

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/7/11/17555884/cinderella-code-part-one-goliath-versus-david-george-mason-uconn-2006-final-four-ncaa-tournament

[VUGrad1314]

I am darn proud that we've shared a conference with two of these teams accounting for three of these runs and were selected to replace a team that made a fourth such run. Hopefully  one day we can make a run of our own and write our own story in the annals of mid major greatness.

[bigmosmithfan1]

Um, NKU let UC use their arena for home games last season while UC's arena was being renovated. That's probably the reason for the home-and-home series (that might have even been part of the agreement for UC to use the arena, but wasn't announced until now).

I mean, it's great for NKU, but let's not pretend that UC is doing that out of the goodness of their heart.

[VUGrad1314]

Let's all laugh at South Florida's terrible schedule.

https://gousfbulls.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

[FieldGoodie05]

Let's all laugh at South Florida's terrible schedule.

https://gousfbulls.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

The more crappy their schedule the better for the rest of us. Solid opponents are a valuable resource and we should welcome other conferences scheduling down.

I don't see your point.  Could be I'm overlooking something.

[VUGrad1314]

That it's embarrassing for a team with the resources and opportunities afforded to it like USF has to schedule like this. If Valpo did this, I'd be livid. Teams that take their loftier position for granted and don't challenge themselves  make me mad because they aren't punished like we are even if we do challenge ourselves. This is  in spite of the fact that I'd take our conference against pretty much anybody. And I know what Valpo could do and would do with such opportunities: they'd make the most of them. An MVC team has to be letter perfect against an extremely tough schedule while a team like this could theoretically slide into the field on the strength of their conference affiliation. It's good for us because it means more available games, but it's so unnerving to see. Undeserved privilege at its finest.

[VU2014]

I'm with VUGrad1314. That schedule is atrocious. They aren't even testing themselves against quality mids. They are just trying to stack up empty wins to give a "recruiting pitch" to recruits. They know they can't compete in their own conference so they are just trying to make the record look better by playing cupcakes. This schedule reminds me of Georgetown's last season.

[IrishDawg]

I'm with VUGrad1314. That schedule is atrocious. They aren't even testing themselves against quality mids. They are just trying to stack up empty wins to give a "recruiting pitch" to recruits. They know they can't compete in their own conference so they are just trying to make the record look better by playing cupcakes. This schedule reminds me of Georgetown's last season.

Yeah, Georgetown's schedule itself was embarrassing (other than their game against Syracuse), but at least USF didn't pull out of the best non-conference tournaments of the year like Georgetown did last year with the PK80.  Plus, the terrible non-conference schedule actually did work for Georgetown.  They were far more competitive in the Big East than I would have thought, even though their record was 5-13.

I wouldn't call USF a team with "resources and opportunities" though.  They're in a better league than the MVC, but it's not anything that they contribute to that.  They're an awful program (1 tourney appearance in the last 25 years, with all those years in a multi-bid league), and they don't spend like a high major program considering how spread out the American is.

[VUGrad1314]

Article on CUSA and Sun Belt scheduling changes. I think something like this could definitely be of great benefit to a traditionally strong midmajor conference like the MVC. It could help us get a second maybe even a third team into the field.

https://deadspin.com/a-college-basketball-insider-is-uniting-mid-majors-to-b-1826990796

[bbtds]

Article on CUSA and Sun Belt scheduling changes. I think something like this could definitely be of great benefit to a traditionally strong midmajor conference like the MVC. It could help us get a second maybe even a third team into the field.

https://deadspin.com/a-college-basketball-insider-is-uniting-mid-majors-to-b-1826990796

I was thinking this situation with CUSA's altered conference schedule over again. If this had been implemented in the MVC last season (17-18) would Valpo have lost/not played some games against Loyola and SIU (maybe Ill State and Drake) and played more winnable games against Evansville, UNI and MSU? Would Valpo have had a better record and possibly not finished last?

[VUGrad1314]

Wouldn't have helped us at all. We went 6-4 against seeds 2-6 in the MVC and 0-8 against Loyola and seeds 7-9.

[bbtds]

Wouldn't have helped us at all. We went 6-4 against seeds 2-6 in the MVC and 0-8 against Loyola and seeds 7-9.

Yes, but you are forgetting the old investment warning. Past performance is not always indicative of Future Results.

Maybe Valpo wins those games if they play some of the lower seeds a third time in conference play.

[VUGrad1314]

Wouldn't have helped us at all. We went 6-4 against seeds 2-6 in the MVC and 0-8 against Loyola and seeds 7-9.

Yes, but you are forgetting the old investment warning. Past performance is not always indicative of Future Results. Maybe Valpo wins those games if they play some of the lower seeds a third time in conference play.

Right, it's not a guarantee but it's generally a fine indicator. Wins are wins. Losses are losses. Sweeps are sweeps. That maybe argument applies to any game or anything in life. Maybe something happens and eventually it will but the evidence shows that we would have had a better chance against the higher seeds in the conference.

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/jarronctwin/status/1019082717382598656

[VUGrad1314]

Part 2 of Matt Craig's Series: The Cinderella Code. I am seriously enjoying reading this and hope others are as well. A major theme of this installment is comparing and contrasting the career paths successful Power 5 Coaches like Bill Self and Roy Williams, and legends of the mid-major level like Shaka Smart, Brad Stevens, Jim Larranaga, Gregg Marshall, and Porter Moser. His point? to win at the mid-major level, you need to be a little unconventional.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/7/17/17578416/the-cinderella-code-part-2-fighting-like-david-shaka-smart-vcu-final-four-2011

[VUGrad1314]

Coaches may be barred from Peach Jam in the future.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-ncaa-is-likely-to-make-this-the-last-peach-jam-college-coaches-can-attend-and-that-would-be-a-mistake/

[VUGrad1314]

Oakland's schedule is out. Heavy at home in the beginning, heavy on the road at the end. Much more difficult at the end; and that MTE shouldn't do much more for them than pad their metrics, but it's a solid schedule on the whole minus the non-D1. I'm a little impressed that they were able to get so many MAC teams to play them on the Blacktop.

https://goldengrizzlies.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=60