NCAA College Basketball Talk

[talksalot]

I didn't know Bears choke except for the ones in Chicago

[bbtds]

Coach Kampe,

The NCAA is listening alright. They are listening to the dollars go into the bank accounts of schools like UK, UCLA, Alabama, Texas, Etc. When Oakland shouts out it's like one of a million trees falling in the forest.

[VU2014]

Did anyone hear anything about why the Detroit-Mercy's head coach was suspended? Recruiting violation? The Detroit-Mercy athletics department is refusing to comment publicly about it.
https://twitter.com/TonyPaul1984/status/932754871337586688
https://twitter.com/Matt_Schoch_/status/932774149931585536

Something smells fishy about this...

[VULB#62]

Concordia-St Paul  69
Milwaukee Panthers  55

Ouch!

UWM rebounded with a win over D-I Elon. They sit at 4-1.

[VU2014]

Wow. The Vanderbilt staff just landed their 2nd 5 star recruit for next years class and they're still in the Romeo Langford's Top 3 who is another Top 3 recruit. Holy cow. 

Bryce, Roger, Jake and Casey are getting work done in the recruiting department.

https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/933389138094587909
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/933388860083417090
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/933388031326814208
https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/933388519816474625
https://twitter.com/PlayersTribune/status/933387186652700672

[valpotx]

All it took was someone to have solid recruiting chops, to do this at Vanderbilt.  You get a fantastic education (for however long you stay), and they have the money/facilities to compete on a consistent basis in the SEC.

[VU2014]

All it took was someone to have solid recruiting chops, to do this at Vanderbilt.  You get a fantastic education (for however long you stay), and they have the money/facilities to compete on a consistent basis in the SEC.

The two 5-stars they landed won't be there for more then 2 years tops. Vandy was a sleeping giant before and with this coaching staff they are finally waking waking up. They're facilities are amazing and they have DEEP pockets. Bryce picked a nice spot to land. Haha remember when Bryce was offered the Bradley job and he turned it down? I remember Bradley fans being mystified that he'd turn them down.

Roger Powell's name will likely start getting talked about for head coaching jobs the next few years. I don't want see him land with DePaul's dysfunctional admin/AD but he'd be an outstanding hire there once they realize bringing back Leitao for the 2nd time won't get the job done, if Coach Powell would want the job.

Jake Diebler will also be a great head coach one day.

[Valpower]

Purdue is in a tough OT battle with Tennessee.  I hope they pull it out.  I don't want to ruin our chance to play against a ranked opponent and unbeaten would be better.

[VU2014]

It sounds vaguely similar to the Valparaiso High School Football coach situation. I need to know what was said to know if it justifies a firing. I'm reserving judgement for now. It would have to be very cruel, nasty & reprehensible to justify a firing. If it was just some tough love coach talk then it would be ridiculous to fire him, imo. But we don't know what was said.
https://twitter.com/CoachingChanges/status/933386288786526213

[SanityLost17]

Wow. The Vanderbilt staff just landed their 2nd 5 star recruit for next years class and they're still in the Romeo Langford's Top 3 who is another Top 3 recruit. Holy cow. 

Bryce, Roger, Jake and Casey are getting work done in the recruiting department.

Ummm... Don't we have to play them next year or the year after?  I mean, I am happy for them, but this game just became a borderline automatic loss, even if it is at home.  haha

[oklahomamick]

Bryce and roger can recruit no doubt.  So can Scott at Baylor.  Remember Baylor before Scott?

[VU2014]

Wow. The Vanderbilt staff just landed their 2nd 5 star recruit for next years class and they're still in the Romeo Langford's Top 3 who is another Top 3 recruit. Holy cow. 

Bryce, Roger, Jake and Casey are getting work done in the recruiting department.

Ummm... Don't we have to play them next year or the year after?  I mean, I am happy for them, but this game just became a borderline automatic loss, even if it is at home.  haha

it was just speculation that the series would start next season. i kind of hope it doesn't start next season after hearing this recent recruiting news... i mean you never know. i could see bryce want to start the series at valpo next season to give darius garland a game in his native state in his likely one season at school also same with romeo langford if they land him over iu. we'll just have to wait and see.

Bryce and roger can recruit no doubt.  So can Scott at Baylor.  Remember Baylor before Scott?

scott has had an eye for uncovering diamonds in the rough and baylor is a perennial power now that he can consistently go after 4 and 5 star guys.

[Valpower]

Detroit Mercy beats St. Louis.  Do we still want them? Tawk amongst yourselves.

[VUGrad1314]

Like it or not as a conference composed of a mix of public and private schools the MVC is going to need to find private schools in order to expand because the private member schools aren't going to want to cede too much power to the public schools. Sadly, the list of viable private schools within the conference footprint is small and (mostly) bad. Here are the reasonable (and some rather unreasonable )options:

UDM (bad team Requires travel partner so they'd have to add Oakland Not sure if schools like Missouri State and Southern Illinois would go for that kind of northeastward expansion UDM doesn't offer every MVC sport)

Oral Roberts (bad team but good in other sports like baseball) Basketball program has some history of success but not recent Potential exists to be a strong add but will take time if it ever happens  Gives Missouri State a reasonable travel partner Could be a desperation add if the private schools don't budge on the need for balance but this won't make the publics happy nor is it likely to make the conference better

Grand Canyon: BIG potential but WAY out of footprint Not gonna happen For-profit status also an issue

Denver: Out of footprint  Don't bring much as a program Hard pass

Belmont: For reasons unknown they need convincing They'd be perfect though

SLU: They SHOULD be in the Valley but they need to be convinced that life in the Valley is better than life in the A10 which appears to be a tall order if you listen to their fanbase. Their Big East aspirations which could be served by moving to the Valley could prove problematic because of the perception that it is easier to get there from the A10 than the Valley (Creighton begs to differ )

Dayton: Unlike SLU they have actually performed well in the A10 on a consistent basis and they are not a severe geographic outlier for the A10 like SLU is Furthermore they have big East aspirations as well  Convincing themto move to the Valley will be harder than convincing SLU

[wh]

When the MVC added Valpo, Commissioner Elgin said the decision to expand beyond 10 will be based on "...whether or not there are programs out there that would increase the possibility of getting at-large bids."  That's a very high bar that essentially excludes every program in the Midwest except Dayton and St. Louis.

Being selective to the extreme makes perfect sense. IMO, to even consider programs like Milwaukee or Detroit anytime in the foreseeable future would be ridiculous. They're far more likely to have another major misstep or scandal before they ever become at-large timber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv0iA0NccWw

[bbtds]

Bryce and roger can recruit no doubt.  So can Scott at Baylor.  Remember Baylor before Scott?

Otherwise known as BBS. And if you add in a couple other initials it becomes bbtds. 

[VU2014]

Purdue is dominating the #2 Arizona right now. If they win this game it will probably keep them in the Top 25 for next weeks polls.
https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/934266009493454848

[wh]

Arizona must be the most overrated team in college basketball. They're about to suffer their 3rd straight loss.

[VU2014]

Oakland got obliterated tonight by Kansas 102-59.

Going into Allen Fieldhouse like...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400989177

[VUGrad1314]

Wh: I would add Belmont  Murray State Northern Kentucky North Dakota State and South Dakota State and (although they are out of the footprint) New Mexico State and Grand Canyon  to your list of programs that could help increase the chances of an at-large bid.Conferences that get at large bids have either:

1-2 exceptional teams OR

Multiple strong teams (30-50 RPI range) reinforced by a strong second layer ( At least 3-4 teams between 60-110 the more to the higher side the better ) and a solid third layer(3-4 teams 130-160) and no true bottom feeders. The recent history of all these programs suggests that they can contribute well to this conference and would make the MVC a better league. We should aim as high as we can and not rush though.

[historyman]

Purdue is in a tough OT battle with Tennessee.  I hope they pull it out.  I don't want to ruin our chance to play against a ranked opponent and unbeaten would be better.

I have a feeling that is what Matt Painter was saying during our close game with Kent State tonight/Friday.

[a3uge]

Purdue is in a tough OT battle with Tennessee.  I hope they pull it out.  I don't want to ruin our chance to play against a ranked opponent and unbeaten would be better.

I have a feeling that is what Matt Painter was saying during our close game with Kent State tonight/Friday.

Raw RPI really only matters for automatic bids - the selection committee typically seeds the 12-16 seeds roughly by RPI. For power conference schools, the only metric that really matters is quantity of top 25 wins. So Purdue coaches and fans probably don't care too much about Valpo's RPI. It's not really going to affect their seed line.

[VUGrad1314]

So your contention is then that if we somehow finish the nonconference season unblemished win the MVC regular season title but don't win the tournament we'd still have no chance at an at-large unless Purdue and Northwestern finish the season ranked? I don't buy that.

[VU2014]

Looking forward to watching this matchup tomorrow. Not a fan Holtmann and I'm definitely NOT a fan of Butler basketball. I hope OSU runs them out of the gym. regardless should be a fun watch
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/934303532852719616

[VU2014]

Wow. Oakland almost lost to Oral Roberts last night... ORU is 1-6 on the season. The game went to overtime. That would have been a soul-crushing loss not only because ORU stinks but because of they're old-rivals. This is not the way OU fans wanted to begin their season.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400989314