Transfers

[NativeCheesehead]

Ahhh, out old friend Grizz and his moral equivalency. Reason #4,723 I won't miss the Horizon League.

[justducky]

If Lexus decides on Oakland I am fine with it. In truth I expect them to be a significantly better team than Valpo in 17-18 and still very good in 18-19. So why wouldn't we want to schedule a possible top 65 or better mid-major for a home and road?   REALITY CHECK!  This move to the MVC is NOT going to make our OOC scheduling much if any easier for building future at-large credentials.

We have to take the best we can find from those who are willing to play at the ARC. If that is Oakland ---GREAT!  Did our now fellow MVC members Illinois St, or Northern Iowa agree to 15-16, 16-17 home and aways ? Nope, and I am pretty sure they were called. So now we should destroy an ongoing working relationship with Kampe because some of you would rather focus on perceived player morality rather than team strength?   

Sometimes I have zero understanding of how many minds on this board function if indeed some are functioning at all

As for Lexus we shouldn't care if he is in an Oakland uniform against us; if that is what he wants and Oakland needs. It would only add to the competitive entertainment value.          
                  
                  
                     
                     
                     
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[valpotx]

This is not just a general 'perception,' ducky.  They have small-minded/scumbag young men on their team that think it is ok to beat up women.  This is a fact.  'Perceived player morality??'  Are you freaking kidding me?  I understand your general point that we should schedule top quality teams, but that was poor word choice.

[VU2014]

If Lexus decides on Oakland I am fine with it. In truth I expect them to be a significantly better team than Valpo in 17-18 and still very good in 18-19.

Oakland is losing a ton of talent after next season. They will rebuilding or reloading after seasons team. OU will have a few talented bigs in Brechting and Brock but their wings will be completely depleted after next season SR's. Kampe is really going to need to work some magic in recruiting and that why its going be so crucial for them to have amazing year to sell recruits on the program.

[VU2014]

A very very rare in conference transfer happening in the Missouri Valley Conference. Loyola's Matt Chastain (3-star) is transferring to Illinois State. The kid is a really good player. I know Valpo was recruiting him but never ended up offering because we were pretty full at Guard position last season and the coaching change ended Valpo's chances once Bryce and Powell left (Roger was the lead recruiter I believe). Larry Austin, Jr was going to commit to Valpo but once Bryce/Powell left he followed them to Vandy.

(side note: I hope the next assistant coach Valpo hires has some connections to the Chicago HS/AAU team/coaches like Roger Powell did. And someone with some pro playing experience. I know thats a tough and tall ask but would be nice to see.)

https://twitter.com/chastain_matt/status/870040273316970496
https://twitter.com/chastain_matt/status/859883632042795008
https://twitter.com/chastain_matt/status/723977997385097216

https://twitter.com/AustinDuncan33/status/713106061503438848
https://twitter.com/LeRoyFCPress/status/705205669830516736
https://twitter.com/IlliniSwami/status/708790808913117184
https://twitter.com/Pg_Reinhardt/status/705228210670313472

[bbtds]

And some people want us to continue to schedule them and in effect help their program?   I do remember how we cried like that when we were unable to schedule Butler.  As was mentioned earlier on a posting, Butler had nothing to gain from playing us. Even though we had beat them 4 straight times, some cried because we couldn't continue to play them, just like some of the OU people are doing.  Poor babies...what a shame.  Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

As has been stated previously let's see how Oakland schedules in the next 2 years and if they will help our RPI then let's make Kampe's day.

[EddieCabot]

And some people want us to continue to schedule them and in effect help their program?   I do remember how we cried like that when we were unable to schedule Butler.  As was mentioned earlier on a posting, Butler had nothing to gain from playing us. Even though we had beat them 4 straight times, some cried because we couldn't continue to play them, just like some of the OU people are doing.  Poor babies...what a shame.  Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

As has been stated previously let's see how Oakland schedules in the next 2 years and if they will help our RPI then let's make Kampe's day.

Valpo should be able to get home and home games with teams from the MAC and should also target A-10 teams.  If Oakland is a worthy opponent, they should be considered down the road also, but that series should be on Valpo's terms, not Oakland's.

[FWalum]

Suspected a transfer might be in his future.  Seems like a good pickup for BSU.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/871569816133480448

[valpotx]

I am sure that they will play against each other at some point!

[VU2014]

Hazen brother duo at Valpo would have been cool but I don't think we had room on roster or at that position.

I know Valpo recruited him pretty hard before he committed to UCF then got out of his letter of intent because of a coaching change and chose Arkansas.

Brachen Hazen will have to sit out a year. I know Valpo is in the middle of a series with Ball State 2-for-2. This may be the last year or the series.

If I remember correctly Parker was the better athlete but Brachen was the better shooter in the family. Both great basketball recruits.

[VU2014]

He's not going to land at Valpo unless he wants to walk-on which seems really unlikely but I guess the kid is really struggling to find solid D1 programs that are interested right now. Sounds like he's a stellar academic student so maybe he can get a good academic scholarship at VU, but would still seem unlikely.

https://twitter.com/sportspartizan/status/871596217523941376

[wh]

He's not going to land at Valpo unless he wants to walk-on which seems really unlikely but I guess the kid is really struggling to find solid D1 programs that are interested right now. Sounds like he's a stellar academic student so maybe he can get a good academic scholarship at VU, but would still seem unlikely.

https://twitter.com/sportspartizan/status/871596217523941376

I'm sure he is a great young man, but he may have been in over his head at IU. I'm not sure he would be a good fit here.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2016/06/24/doyel-iu-recruit-grant-gelon/86249188/

[vu72]

He's not going to land at Valpo unless he wants to walk-on which seems really unlikely but I guess the kid is really struggling to find solid D1 programs that are interested right now. Sounds like he's a stellar academic student so maybe he can get a good academic scholarship at VU, but would still seem unlikely.

https://twitter.com/sportspartizan/status/871596217523941376

I'm sure he is a great young man, but he may have been in over his head at IU. I'm not sure he would be a good fit here.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2016/06/24/doyel-iu-recruit-grant-gelon/86249188/

Totally agree. We are being "picky" as well we should.  Aim higher.

[VUGrad1314]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he walks on he won't have to sit right? This kid may not have been able to make it in the Big 10 but that doesn't mean he won't be a valuable addition to a Valley team. He can shoot and we could definitely use more outside shooting. He's from Crown Point which deepens VU's connection with the surrounding area and gives more people a potential reason to go to games.If he's willing to walk on and can fit in academically, I see no good reason to turn him away if he expresses interest in joining the program. He should get plenty of open looks from the outside on this team and I'm sure we can find him enough minutes this year.

One more thought that just occurred to me: This guy was a teammate of another Crown Point guard who could really shoot the basketball and committed to a power 5 school . Should he find his lot on that P5 team unsatisfactory in any way having a high school teammate on the roster to tell him what a swell place Valpo is could prove key. Think big picture everyone.

[VU2014]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he walks on he won't have to sit right? This kid may not have been able to make it in the Big 10 but that doesn't mean he won't be a valuable addition to a Valley team. He can shoot and we could definitely use more outside shooting. He's from Crown Point which deepens VU's connection with the surrounding area and gives more people a potential reason to go to games. If he's willing to walk on and can fit in academically, I see no good reason to turn him away if he expresses interest in joining the program. He should get plenty of open looks from the outside on this team and I'm sure we can find him enough minutes this year.

Good points, specifically being from the "region" could help a little with attendance or lead more people from Northwest Indiana to pay attention. Not sure he'd get much run even with next years team. But I guess you never know.

If he'd be willing to accept a standard healthy academic scholarship and it was enough for him and if he'd agree to his "role" with potential of earning minutes in the future then I'd say go for it but still seems unlikely.

One more thought that just occurred to me: This guy was a teammate of another Crown Point guard who could really shoot the basketball and committed to a power 5 school . Should he find his lot on that P5 team unsatisfactory in any way having a high school teammate on the roster to tell him what a swell place Valpo is could prove key. Think big picture everyone.

I think you are referring to Sasha Stefanovic. I believe he played 2 guard for Crown Point (ken decker played the 1) and he was a legit star and would bring many more eyeballs/fans then Gelon ever would if he chose Valpo over Purdue. Sasha got caught up with Big10 "status" over early playing time and development. A decent amount of media/fans think he may become an eventual transfer his freshman or sophomore year if he doesn't establish a "role" in the Purdue offense early in his Purdue career. Would have been an amazing get for our program if he chose us, but he seemed to really want to get the notoriety/label of being a Big10 player. Hope it all works out for him and wish him the best.

I bet we'll see Purdue's HC Painter put him in the game vs Valpo if the game gets away from us at some point late in the game to give him some run in front of NWI fans that will be in the building on Dec. 14 at their place. Would be awesome if we could shock the world and make a statement in the State of Indiana. 

[Valpo89]

Gelon would still have to sit out a year.

[VU2014]

Fairly accurate depiction of the P5 poaching a lot the top Mid-Major schools talents this offseason...

https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/872138091108151297

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/876830795813576704

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-coaches-like-baseball-rule-for-nba-draft-but-it-may-not-solve-the-big-issues/

College coaches like 'baseball rule' for NBA Draft, but it may not solve the big issues
College coaches are mostly for using MLB's policy for its draft, but the NBA might not be interested
By: Matt Norlander @MattNorlander
Jun 19, 2017

If we are to believe his words and glean from his tone, NBA commissioner Adam Silver could catalyze major changes to college basketball in the coming years.

Silver's recent comments about reconsidering the NBA's age-minimum rule for the NBA Draft has once more spurred discussion about what protocol would be better for all involved. Before moving any further, understand this is the perma-reality: There is no perfect solution. There is no rule that benefits the NBA as it does college basketball as it does the players. The NBA is run by smart people, and if there was an endgame that magically worked for everyone invested they'd have found it by now.

So, no matter what, one of the three aforementioned entities — the NBA, college basketball or the player — will be forced into sacrifice in any variable. Obviously, since the NBA and the NBA Players Association bargain the rule, the NBA is not going to be hindering itself.

..........

[VU2014]

Vanderbilt just released 2 interesting transfers. Larry Austin Jr and Payton Willis.

You may remember hearing the name Larry Austin Jr because he nearly transferred to Valpo but he chose to follow Bryce and Roger to Vandy instead of joining Valpo a few years ago. I wonder if he regrets that decision. He was a 3 star PG recruit from Xavier.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3136480/larry-austin-jr

https://twitter.com/AdamSparks/status/974033357695840256

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/974442309940113409

[valpotx]

Succcckkkkkkkssssssssss for Evansville

[SanityLost17]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/3138197/ryan-luther

Transferring from Pitt.   Looks like he was a senior this year who got injured before ACC play started.  Not sure the nature of the injury.  Plays the 4.  Good Size at 6'9" 225, rebounded well in the games he did play, and around 40% from 3 during his career at Pitt.   Didn't take a ton of 3's but hit at a good percentage for the ones he did take.   

[VUGrad1314]

The transfer bug has hit Pitt so hard I'm hearing that even Dan Marino and Tony Dorsett are exploring their options right now.

[VUGrad1314]

In all seriousness I wonder who's going to coach that mess. Maybe Thad Matta or Tubby Smith? I would have suggested Dwight Shrute AKA Tom Crean but he's taking the Georgia job. Wow a lot of pretty good jobs opened up this year;

[vu72]

It's up to eight players wanting out.  The problem began with the hiring of the nut case Stallings.  He was quietly removed from Vandy and then two year later not so quietly at Pitt.