Transfers

[VULB#62]

Mid major coaches have to create a culture in their programs that players from bigger schools want to come to when they realize "big" doesn't really mean "better".  I think Bryce Drew did this while he was at Valpo and we'll see if Lottich can do this while he is at the helm.

VUOR63 has hit on the mid-major response to up-transfers:  Recruit disillusioned P-5 players who were at the highest level, found that they were not getting the minutes they were hoping for (or promised by recruiters) and who just want to play lots of BB in a D-I setting.  Current cases in point Shane, Joe, and Bakari to just name a couple of recent additions. Further back, Cappo, Bogan, Moussa.

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/852239934916247552

[VULB#62]

Check out Markus' Twitter Banner.  Outstanding!   


https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3

[vu72]

What stands out to me is the athleticism of the incoming guys.  Even Jabril said that they are "WAY" more athletic then we were coming in.  Instead of guys like Bogan, Boggs, Davidson or Capo (all good players but hardly rim rattlers) think of the guys coming in or who have been here and will be eligible to play.  Doubt we have ever had as athletic of a team.

Don't know how good they will be but I do see a shift in recruiting philosophy.

[vu72]

The Horizon League loses another one to transfer. The grad transfer rule is really hurting the Horizon League (and other Mid-Major/Low-Major Conf)

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/852228003123916800

Sure, another quality player gone but at the same time the Horizon is adding some quality players via transfer who will be elgible next year.  Bakari and Joe to name two.  Oakland adds Nunn and already has a few high major transfers on their roster. Green Bay loses Kanter but has a Pepperdine and Bradley transfer on their roster. Detroit loses Hogan but had players on their roster from Colorado and GW.  It is simply a revolving door

[VU2014]

The Horizon League loses another one to transfer. The grad transfer rule is really hurting the Horizon League (and other Mid-Major/Low-Major Conf)

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/852228003123916800

Sure, another quality player gone but at the same time the Horizon is adding some quality players via transfer who will be elgible next year.  Bakari and Joe to name two.  Oakland adds Nunn and already has a few high major transfers on their roster. Green Bay loses Kanter but has a Pepperdine and Bradley transfer on their roster. Detroit loses Hogan but had players on their roster from Colorado and GW.  It is simply a revolving door

Redshirt transfer and grad-transfers are very different type transferring scenarios, imo.

If they changed the rule to Grad-transfers had to sit out the next season before getting play I'd be ok with the Grad-Transfers more.

[VUOR63]

VU2014, I couldn't disagree more.  If, as you say, graduate transfers should have to sit out, then shouldn't coaches have to redshirt a year before coaching at a new job?

A graduate transfer has fulfilled his obligation to the university and has earned the flexibility to go and spend his final eligibility where he wants.  It just so happens we were fortunate to be blessed with a man like Alec Peters who valued Valpo enough to stay.  In a world where the NCAA uses athletes to build a revenue-generating platform, it's refreshing to see the graduate transfer rule being utilized liberally by athletes around the country.

As I indicated in a previous post, it's up to the program to establish itself as a destination to either stay or come to.  If you can't do that, then you won't achieve viability.  We shouldn't take for granted that Valpo is a special place that, even though there's room for improvement, provides athletes a tight-knit family to come to and work on your craft--whatever that may be.

[FWalum]

Another Golder tweet. https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/852356290433081344 With the banner and the other Valpo references, if this kid is a Business Major then he is definitely getting an A in Marketing.

[vu72]

The Horizon League loses another one to transfer. The grad transfer rule is really hurting the Horizon League (and other Mid-Major/Low-Major Conf)

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/852228003123916800

Sure, another quality player gone but at the same time the Horizon is adding some quality players via transfer who will be elgible next year.  Bakari and Joe to name two.  Oakland adds Nunn and already has a few high major transfers on their roster. Green Bay loses Kanter but has a Pepperdine and Bradley transfer on their roster. Detroit loses Hogan but had players on their roster from Colorado and GW.  It is simply a revolving door

Redshirt transfer and grad-transfers are very different type transferring scenarios, imo.

If they changed the rule to Grad-transfers had to sit out the next season before getting play I'd be ok with the Grad-Transfers more.

Just realized/remembered that Valpo benefited from the grad-transfer rule when Moussa Gueye came to Valpo after graduating from Alabama.

[FWalum]

VU2014, I couldn't disagree more.  If, as you say, graduate transfers should have to sit out, then shouldn't coaches have to redshirt a year before coaching at a new job?

A graduate transfer has fulfilled his obligation to the university and has earned the flexibility to go and spend his final eligibility where he wants.  It just so happens we were fortunate to be blessed with a man like Alec Peters who valued Valpo enough to stay.  In a world where the NCAA uses athletes to build a revenue-generating platform, it's refreshing to see the graduate transfer rule being utilized liberally by athletes around the country.

As I indicated in a previous post, it's up to the program to establish itself as a destination to either stay or come to.  If you can't do that, then you won't achieve viability.  We shouldn't take for granted that Valpo is a special place that, even though there's room for improvement, provides athletes a tight-knit family to come to and work on your craft--whatever that may be.

I have complained a lot in the past about Student Athletes not really having much to do with being a student in many other programs. I don't particularly like what this rule is doing to good Mid-Major teams, but you have to admit that this is the one rule that actually promotes and rewards good academic performance.  I think that our coaches are smart enough to notice when a player is working toward graduating in 3 years (or 4 years for a red shirt) and that this could be a possibility for that player.  I think that we can take pride in the fact that our players have the ability to undertake the rigor required to reach their academic goals and have this opportunity.  Don't get me wrong, I want our program to succeed at the highest level, but athletics are supposed to be a means to an end and Valpo is doing an excellent job of preparing these students for success in life. If they gave out rankings for teams with players receiving graduate degrees, I think we would be one of the top schools in the country.

[vu72]

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/852239934916247552

So why not any announcement from Valpo?  Are they waiting on another signing to announce both at the same time??   

[vusupporter]

The Horizon League loses another one to transfer. The grad transfer rule is really hurting the Horizon League (and other Mid-Major/Low-Major Conf)

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/852228003123916800

Sure, another quality player gone but at the same time the Horizon is adding some quality players via transfer who will be elgible next year.  Bakari and Joe to name two.  Oakland adds Nunn and already has a few high major transfers on their roster. Green Bay loses Kanter but has a Pepperdine and Bradley transfer on their roster. Detroit loses Hogan but had players on their roster from Colorado and GW.  It is simply a revolving door

Redshirt transfer and grad-transfers are very different type transferring scenarios, imo.

If they changed the rule to Grad-transfers had to sit out the next season before getting play I'd be ok with the Grad-Transfers more.

Just realized/remembered that Valpo benefited from the grad-transfer rule when Moussa Gueye came to Valpo after graduating from Alabama.

Will Bogan as well.

[vufan75]

Was Will Bogan a grad transfer or just regular transfer? Did he play for us 1 or 2 years? I don't remember for sure?

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[wh]

Was Will Bogan a grad transfer or just regular transfer? Did he play for us 1 or 2 years? I don't remember for sure?

He graduated from Ole Miss in 3 years, but played only 2 seasons due to a medical redshirt.  So, he was a grad transfer with 2 years of eligibility.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/roster/2012-13/5981/will-bogan/#.WO-QfPnythE

[a3uge]

The Horizon League loses another one to transfer. The grad transfer rule is really hurting the Horizon League (and other Mid-Major/Low-Major Conf)

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/852228003123916800

Sure, another quality player gone but at the same time the Horizon is adding some quality players via transfer who will be elgible next year.  Bakari and Joe to name two.  Oakland adds Nunn and already has a few high major transfers on their roster. Green Bay loses Kanter but has a Pepperdine and Bradley transfer on their roster. Detroit loses Hogan but had players on their roster from Colorado and GW.  It is simply a revolving door

Redshirt transfer and grad-transfers are very different type transferring scenarios, imo.

If they changed the rule to Grad-transfers had to sit out the next season before getting play I'd be ok with the Grad-Transfers more.

Just realized/remembered that Valpo benefited from the grad-transfer rule when Moussa Gueye came to Valpo after graduating from Alabama.

"benefited"

[VULB#62]

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/852239934916247552

So why not any announcement from Valpo?  Are they waiting on another signing to announce both at the same time??   

Not an official release but the MBB Twitter site did retweet Markus' tweet (below).  I am assuming that an official announcement will be released once the entire class is finalized rather than one at a time.

[tweet]852239934916247552[/tweet]

[valpo64]

Golder's signing was mentioned in FW's morning paper today.  The Journal Gazette writer got the news from someplace.  I figured it came from a VU release.

[FWalum]

Golder's signing was mentioned in FW's morning paper today.  The Journal Gazette writer got the news from someplace.  I figured it came from a VU release.

  Would have bet the article was not by Tom Davis.... and it wasn't.

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733737385119744
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733827801694208
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733916146356224
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852739567534841860

[wh]

Marcus' stats:

http://www.nwacsports.org/basketball/stat.php?stat=individualStats&team=&sport=mbasketball&season=2016&playerid=38860

Very good stat line, especially @27 min.

[FieldGoodie05]

Golder Signs NLI To Join Valpo Men's Basketball Program


Golder Signs NLI To Join Valpo Men's Basketball Program
Thursday, April 13, 2017
Valparaiso University men's basketball head coach Matt Lottich announced today that Markus Golder, a 6'6" swingman out of North Idaho College, has signed a National Letter of Intent and will join the Crusader men's basketball program for the 2017-18 season. Golder will be a sophomore for the Crusaders next season and has three seasons of eligibility remaining.

"We are extremely excited to have Markus join the Valparaiso University community," said Lottich. "He will be a welcomed addition to the academic, social and athletic scene at Valpo. On the court, Markus brings a unique athletic ability combined with a nice outside shooting touch. What we noticed very quickly with Markus is that he has a strong desire to continue to improve and is not afraid to work hard. We can't wait to get Markus on campus and start coaching him. The Valpo basketball faithful will enjoy watching Markus compete."

As a redshirt freshman last season for the Cardinals, Golder led the team as he averaged 18.9 points per game on 55% shooting from the floor. Golder also hit at a 39% clip from 3-point range and 81% from the foul line, and registered 6.6 rebounds per game as well. He helped lead the way as North Idaho finished the season with a 25-5 record, including a 13-3 mark in Northwest Athletic Conference play, and earned the NWAC East Region title.

Golder redshirted his first year at NIC in 2015-16 after joining the Cardinals program from Clackamas [Ore.] H.S. He earned First Team All-State and All-League accolades as a senior and led the Cavaliers to back-to-back appearances in the state playoffs.

Golder is the fifth newcomer set to join the Crusaders on the court next season. Local prep stars Mileek McMillan (Merrillville) and Parker Hazen (Columbia City) signed their respective NLIs during the early signing period in November and will join the program as freshmen in 2017-18. Transfers Joe Burton (Oklahoma State) and Bakari Evelyn (Nebraska) will be eligible for the first time at Valpo next year after sitting out this season due to NCAA transfer regulations.

[VUOR63]

Nigel Williams-Goss, the guard at Gonzaga, is from Happy Valley, OR (which feeds into Clackamas HS).  I wonder if Golder and Williams-Goss ever crossed paths in youth leagues before Williams-Goss went down to Findlay Prep.

[VU2014]

Vandy, Valpo and Fordham all in play for Ryan Fazekas.

Vandy has 2 open scholarships for next year (still 1 outstanding offer for a 2017 recruit)

Fordham has 4 open scholarships for next year and ZERO signed or committed players from the class of 2017 (BRUTAL). (still 7 outstanding offer for a 2017 recruit)

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/852740837901348864
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852752832587382784

[yayphoenixyay]

I agree it is a revolving door at this point. GB will have two 4-star transfers coming in for next year, but we lose our best post guy. Its a bit of a wash, but other schools like Detroit and Cleveland State probably won't be so fortunate. Its a shame, I was really looking forward to watching most of the league come back next year but it really seems like every single team outside of Oakland will have lost their best player.

[FieldGoodie05]

Looks like we missed out on Shaq Calhoun.

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaqcalhounnn

His twitter picture shows Tennessee Tech bball court and he makes comments sounding like a decision.