Transfers

[vu72]

SO..................... What if they were to just eliminate the graduate transfer possibility?  Play 4 years as an undergraduate OR graduate in 3 and earn a friggin living in the real world. Basic choice. Simple. And if you do graduate in 3, and are serious about a career, go ahead and go  to graduate school on the rest of your scholarship but don't play basketball - earn a friggin living in the real world.

Scholarship  players have an amazing opportunity that regular students could only dream of. In the case of Vapo they're privileged to attend a high-profile, private university free of charge. They stay on campus in the summer attending classes and working on their basketball skills, while their peers are home working summer jobs. They're provided tutors and study tables to help stay on the straight and narrow. They can fairly easily graduate in 3 years - and then get the first year of grad school completely paid for. When it's all over they walk out the door with a degree (or 2) in hand and no student debt to contend with for the next 10 years (longer if it gets deferred somewhere along the way).

Isn't that a big enough benefit in and of itself, without having to add some basketball-related, transfer gimmick to it?

I'm with both comments.  Another way to handle the player's desire to try "the big time" is to say that after you graduate, and still have eligibility, you can play immediately however the benefiting school cannot provide you with a scholarship.  You have received the benefits as described by wh.  That was the deal you cut with the school you chose.  If you decide to go the graduate transfer route your finances are on you and your family.  Graduate schools can get pretty expensive!! 

[VULB#62]

And how many of these post-grad BB players ever really get that masters anyway?  If they carry the same load in season as when they were under grads they'd be several credits short -- unless they actually hang around after the season and complete all of their course work.  Then you have Vashil who hung around for TWO 

[SanityLost17]

Athletes who would have had 80%+ of their school paid for without athletics (academic money) should have more freedom of movement.  They were obviously students 1st and didn't need basketball to earn a college degree at a reasonable price.  The University would have invested in them without basketball.   

Students who were not going to get much academic aid who are on scholarship should have less freedom of movement.  The University has invested a lot of money in them as a basketball player.

I didn't think about this argument for very long, so I am sure there are holes in the argument, but you get the idea.     

[bbtds]

https://twitter.com/Ryan_fazekas/status/854105323954515968
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/854165846943576066
https://twitter.com/paulh707/status/854321136397627393

It's interesting when a student athlete refers to VU as Valpo University he is making sure he distinguishes Valpo High from Valpo U because he's had many years competing against Valpo High and that it was a big rivalry. He doesn't want his friends from high school thinking he means Valpo High.

[M]

Well he did visit two VUs....probably wanted to distinguish which VU he was talking about.

[bigmosmithfan1]

It's interesting when a student athlete refers to VU as Valpo University he is making sure he distinguishes Valpo High from Valpo U because he's had many years competing against Valpo High and that it was a big rivalry. He doesn't want his friends from high school thinking he means Valpo High

Oh, I've noticed this for years. Friends from Merrillville, Portage, etc. will always say they were rooting "for Valpo U." so there's no misconstruing that they would ever root for the green and white team over on Campbell St. (VHS is loathed by other Duneland Conference schools/grads, in my experience).

[bbtds]

Well he did visit two VUs....probably wanted to distinguish which VU he was talking about.

Valparaiso University and Vanderbilt University. Only Ryan knows the city and high school well as "Valpo."

[Valpo89]

Fazekas never played against Valpo High, being at Marquette.

Some schools don't take too kindly to MCM's "methods" of obtaining "student-athletes." So they refuse to play them.

But sure, he played against Valpo teams prior to high school.

[VU2014]

I wouldn't sweat it guys. Tweets are limited to only a 140 characters so it pretty common to see abbreviations in tweets.

I almost never see reporters tweet out Valparaiso. It's 95% of the time just 'Valpo'.

[VU2014]

 

Valpo or fordham?

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/856222409556406273

https://twitter.com/Ryan_fazekas/status/856220614041972736

[VU2014]

Valpo!!!!!!


https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/856224537226207232

[covufan]

If we are still looking for a one and done, we might be able to steal one from the MVC before we join:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/mikyle-mcintosh

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66427/mikyle-mcintosh

[VU2014]

If we are still looking for a one and done, we might be able to steal one from the MVC before we join:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/mikyle-mcintosh

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66427/mikyle-mcintosh

I don't really think Mcintosh would consider Valpo or at least it would be extremely awkward if Valpo were to leave for the MVC (IL St is in the MVC).

Its also been widely speculated that he wants to go to a P6 team. I just can't see him leaving for the HL.

If by chance he did transfer to Valpo and we left for the MVC, then that would be a hell of a way to jump start the rivalry by landing their best player who is going to be a grad transfer lol. But still I think its unlikely.

[wh]

If we are still looking for a one and done, we might be able to steal one from the MVC before we join:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/mikyle-mcintosh

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66427/mikyle-mcintosh

I don't really think Mcintosh would consider Valpo or at least it would be extremely awkward if Valpo were to leave for the MVC (IL St is in the MVC).

Its also been widely speculated that he wants to go to a P6 team. I just can't see him leaving for the HL.

If by chance he did transfer to Valpo and we left for the MVC, then that would be a hell of a way to jump start the rivalry by landing their best player who is going to be a grad transfer lol. But still I think its unlikely.

When AP was going through the recruiting process, he narrowed a pot full of offers down to 2 finalists - Valpo and Illinois State. People on their board were incensed when he chose Valpo - inferior program, inferior league, high school gym, the usual stuff.  I can only imagine the reaction if we stole their best player.

[bbtds]

If we are still looking for a one and done, we might be able to steal one from the MVC before we join:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/mikyle-mcintosh

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66427/mikyle-mcintosh

I don't really think Mcintosh would consider Valpo or at least it would be extremely awkward if Valpo were to leave for the MVC (IL St is in the MVC).

Its also been widely speculated that he wants to go to a P6 team. I just can't see him leaving for the HL.

If by chance he did transfer to Valpo and we left for the MVC, then that would be a hell of a way to jump start the rivalry by landing their best player who is going to be a grad transfer lol. But still I think its unlikely.

You underestimate the Lottich power of recruiting!  Sexiest mid-major head coach in the NCAA. 

[VU2014]

One interesting note. We were one of the two schools Australian Transfer Tom Wilson from SMU was considering. He eventually chose Boise State because they had a scholarship available for him during the Spring Semester.

He will not be playing for Boise State, because he decided to go Pro in Australia instead.

https://twitter.com/FoxBasketball/status/826947003548471298
https://twitter.com/MichaelLKatz/status/826978442591629313
https://twitter.com/jbizzle_3/status/850090295693684736

[valpo4life]

Mark Donnal is transferring to Clemson

[VU2014]

Mark Donnal is transferring to Clemson

I really like that the coaching staff is being picky with that last scholarship. I just don't want them to settle and it sounds like they not going to.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/857289032467963906
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/857289295215947777
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/857289362387718148

[vu72]

Sure sounds good when our coach says "we're being picky"!  Not too many mid-majors are in that position.

[valpopal]

One time Valpo commit Zion Morgan (FR) will be transferring from UNLV

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Interesting twist: Morgan has announced he will be going to Junior College:

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[oklahomamick]

I guess we dodged the Zion Morgan bullet.

Mark Donnal, a 6'9 graduate transfer from Michigan decided on Clemson.  He might take Skara's minutes next year. 

[VU2014]

I guess we dodged the Morgan Zion bullet.

Mark Donnal, a 6'9 graduate transfer from Michigan decided on Clemson.  He might take Skara's minutes next year. 

But Don Bosco "prep" said it was the best thing for David's career to go to Clemson... I still won't get over how those dirtbags treated David like a cattle. I hope David has a great career at Clemson and goes Pro but I wish he never got involved with those people. Still doesn't sit right with me.

[VULB#62]

GB just lost a key player to transfer. According to an Oren tweet, Trevor Anderson is going to Wisconsin. The HL seems to be THE place for P5 schools to do off season shopping.

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On the 10PM GB News last night this was one of the lead stories.  According to them, Anderson is going to UW as a WALK-ON!  Hard to believe that.  He was, I believe, Mr. Wisconsin Basketball.

[VULB#62]

Here's Anderson's Tweet that is titled Leap Of Faith.  That could mean the walk-on status is real.

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[underdawg]

Hi--SIU fan. I know you lost Peter, Hammink and Adekoya. I'd like to see who you guys think will start for the Crusaders--will you use a lot of red-shirted players?