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VU2014

#100
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
Re: Sasha, if it is true that Purdue is at -1 if Edwards returns, and Sasha is the odd man out, will he not have to redshirt as a walk-on and have to pay his own way.  And if that is the case, why not simply not enroll.  That would give him 4 seasons of eligibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

I think he can still red-shirt his freshman year (I don't think he'll be paying out-of-pocket)

I don't think there is anyway he isn't on Purdue's campus next year. He's about as hard of a commit as they come and already signed his letter of intent. Going to the BIG 10 school was really important to him and mattered more then early playing time and opportunity of early development. My guess is he red-shirts next season, but who knows what he'll do if Purdue lands 1 or 2 of the 6 current other SG's they've already offered for class of 2018. Maybe he'll see the importance benefit of opportunity of playing time & early development down the road if he doesn't get that on Purdue's roster and transfer down the road. Lots of High School kids don't have the maturity yet to look at the big picture. Not saying I hope he transfers but I do hope he doesn't get too caught up with needing to be on a Power Conference team. Hopefully he ends up doing whats best for development as player. He has a lot potential and shouldn't be riding a bench.

bbtds

Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AMThat would give him 4 seasons of elegibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

Well, at least WW I will be over.  :)

Dave_2010

Quote from: VU2014 on May 22, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
Re: Sasha, if it is true that Purdue is at -1 if Edwards returns, and Sasha is the odd man out, will he not have to redshirt as a walk-on and have to pay his own way.  And if that is the case, why not simply not enroll.  That would give him 4 seasons of eligibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

I think he can still red-shirt his freshman year (I don't think he'll be paying out-of-pocket)


Whether the player redshirts or not, his scholarship will count against the school's allotment. If you have 14 scholarship players, someone has to go.

Football is able to get around this with the "greyshirt" process by which the player doesn't enroll/get his scholarship until the spring semester of his freshman year, but I doubt that will work in a 2 semester sport like basketball.


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M

Sounds like someone will eventually be asked to either walk on for a year or go prep.

VU2014

Quote from: M on May 22, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
Sounds like someone will eventually be asked to either walk on for a year or go prep.

I know it was rumored while Valpo was still in play in his recruiting that he was thinking about playing at a prep for a year.

Bummer for him if he gets forced to go prep or walk-on after already signing his letter of intent.

VULB#62

#105
Kinda like David Revalo when Vashil got his 4th year of elegibility.

historyman

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 12, 2017, 05:21:14 PM
Where is the official announcement and signed paperwork from Germany?








You didn't say which German paperwork.
"We must stand aside from the world's conspiracy of fear and hate and grasp once more the great monosyllables of life: faith, hope, and love. Men must live by these if they live at all under the crushing weight of history." Otto Paul "John" Kretzmann

historyman

Quote from: bbtds on May 22, 2017, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AMThat would give him 4 seasons of elegibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

Well, at least WW I will be over. :-)


Actually not till Nov. 11, 1918 at 11:11 a.m. French time (Armistice signed in Compiegne, France).

If we get another Serbian player than the war effort was all worth it. Of course we have the German player now so we must watch our p's and q's and our double s's. :-)
"We must stand aside from the world's conspiracy of fear and hate and grasp once more the great monosyllables of life: faith, hope, and love. Men must live by these if they live at all under the crushing weight of history." Otto Paul "John" Kretzmann


VULB#62

Derrik is one tall dude.

covufan

Quote from: VULB#62 on May 23, 2017, 11:52:02 AM
Derrik is one tall dude.
And yet, still not the tallest when he heads home for a weekend!

VULB#62

He should always look up to someone.  :)

VU2014

Mileek's High School coaches tweets. Really found the "point/forward/guard" mention interesting. A nod to his versatility.

I'm excited to see what a lot of the new guys like Mileek can do next year.

https://twitter.com/bojansayspotato/status/866838447675330560
https://twitter.com/bopat10/status/867422471317848064


vu72

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA5zgqoXYAAog6e.jpg

Markus Golder Tweet.  I think this guy is serious!
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

VU2014

Mid-Madness's Way too early Mid-Major rankings (Valpo is unranked).

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/5/31/15715078/mid-major-madness-power-rankings-update-gonzaga-western-kentucky-grand-canyon

RANK  TEAM   2016-17 RECORD
1   Gonzaga (4)   37-2
2   Saint Mary's (4)   29-5   
3   Rhode Island (1)   25-10
4   Vermont   29-6
5   UT Arlington   27-9   
6   Nevada   28-7   
7   Middle Tennessee   31-5   
8   BYU   22-12   
9   Western Kentucky   15-17
10   College of Charleston   25-10
11   Bucknell   26-9   
12   Oakland   25-9   
12   Princeton   23-7
14   Florida Gulf Coast   26-8   
15   Illinois State   28-7   
16   VCU   26-9   
17   San Diego State   19-14   
18   Dayton   24-8   
19   New Mexico State   
20   Harvard   18-10
20   Boise State   20-12   
22   St. Bonaventure   20-12
23   UNC Asheville   23-10   
24   UNC Wilmington   29-6   
25   Grand Canyon   22-9   

The Next Ten: Yale, Saint Louis, Davidson, Northern Kentucky, UC Davis, Wyoming, East Tennessee State, Old Dominion, Louisiana Tech, Saint Joseph's.

bbtds

Quote from: vu72 on May 29, 2017, 07:02:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA5zgqoXYAAog6e.jpg

Markus Golder Tweet.  I think this guy is serious!

Just like VU and the HL most VU basketball players have "been there, done that"

VU2014

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/871053911796449280
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/871049623934291968

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/6/3/15713918/part-1-eligible-transfers-on-ncaa-tournament-bids-lamonte-bearden-wku-joe-burton-brekkott-chapman

Part 1: Eligible transfers that could have an impact on NCAA Tournament bids
After a year on the bench, these players are ready to help their new programs.
by Jordan Burton  Jun 3, 2017, 10:03am PDT

More than 700 players across the nation have swapped schools this season with each program hoping to catch lightning in a bottle as the second, and in some cases third, team these players will have suited up for.

Last year, Arkansas transfer JaCorey Williams was the CUSA POY for Middle Tennessee and helped the Blue Raiders score a first round upset over Minnesota. Over a multi-part series, we'll be taking a look at transfers that sat out the 2016-17 season, but could have a similar impact on NCAA Tournament bids.

NOTE: This does NOT include 2016-17 transfers, only players that transferred during the 2015-16 season and sat out last season.

...............

VU2014



vu72

Quote from: wh on June 17, 2017, 05:27:00 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/875493968053665796
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-athletes-in-action-st-0616-20170615-story.html

Valparaiso's Luke Gore, Micah Bradford, Derrik Smits grow on European trip
By: Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
Date: June 15, 2017

Kansas State dismisses forward Isaiah Maurice
(after he returns from AIA trip)

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/kansas-state-dismisses-forward-isaiah-maurice/

Wow!  Apparently hanging out with those Christians was too much for Webber!   ???
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

bbtds

"There are standards of conduct required to be a member of our program, and there are consequences when those standards aren't met," Weber said in the release. "Isaiah did not meet his responsibilities, and unfortunately this is the result."

It could be Webber thought the student/athlete sacrificed too much of his time to play for AIA and that became apparent when Maurice returned. It would be interesting to hear the whole story from Bradford and Smits about Maurice's conduct on the Poland trip.


valpo64

Just for info...when Coach Weber was at both Purdue and Illinois he was a faithful member of a Lutheran Church and attended regularly

VULB#62

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Quote from: bbtds on June 17, 2017, 08:20:06 AM
"There are standards of conduct required to be a member of our program, and there are consequences when those standards aren't met," Weber said in the release. "Isaiah did not meet his responsibilities, and unfortunately this is the result."

It could be Webber thought the student/athlete sacrificed too much of his time to play for AIA and that became apparent when Maurice returned. It would be interesting to hear the whole story from Bradford and Smits about Maurice's conduct on the Poland trip.

AIA players generally are really good kids. Coach Gore will have had a very close-up view of this young man's personality, habits and behavior. Traveling in eastern Europe as a cobbled-together team tells a lot about character. Depending on the real reason for his dismissal (assuming the absence of anything felonious) and assuming that the trip contributed to some sort of coach/player/VU players bonding, might it be reasonable to hear some discussions about him in a Valpo future context?