Valparaiso has ACCEPTED* the Invite to become the 10th Member of the MVC!!!!

[oklahomamick]

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now... [tweet]861969729707286528[/tweet]

Need to win a lot more HL league titles and start finishing in the top 100. 

[VULB#62]

I wonder if this will require another Board Meeting or can it be done via teleconference?  Presume the later.  I'm guessing a formal acceptance announcement tomorrow.

Probably depends on what "the details" wind up being, don'tcha think?

Sure, but others have posted that "the details" are settled before and invite goes out. Doubt very seriously that a million dollar exit fees hasn;t been addressed/solved at this point.  Has an invitation to join a conference ever been issued publicly and then rejected?  Certainly hope not.

Could there be such a thing as buyer's remorse here?  Doubt it in this case, but ya never know until the ink is dry.  It's always that the devil is in the details.  And, BTW,  my reply was in regard to your question as to whether an additional B of T meeting/concall would be necessary, not whether it was a make or break thing.

[VULB#62]

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now... [tweet]861969729707286528[/tweet]

Need to win a lot more HL league titles and start finishing in the top 100.

Wonder if Matt has been on the horn to Kampe already trying to set up an OOC game (or multi-game series) at the Little Ceasars Arena (  😜  ) with a return to the ARC in 2018-19?

[covufan]

No surprise here.
https://twitter.com/CraigHaley/status/861970515359039489

Duh!  Where else could they go?

While I would like to see the MVFC in Valpo's future, unless Valpo commits to being an extremely good PFL team there is no chance of jumping to MVFC or FCS scholarship in the near (5-10 year) future.

[NativeCheesehead]

We have a football team?

[covufan]

I'm excited for Valpo and all sports in this move to the MVC!

With the news out there that the MVC is not done expanding, I'm wondering if our private school status helped in the decision making process.  An extra year would give the MVC and potential schools time to get everything in order prior to an April vote.

[covufan]

We have a football team?

In the Shields Up years it might be debatable. 

[VU2014]

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now... [tweet]861969729707286528[/tweet]

Need to win a lot more HL league titles and start finishing in the top 100.

Wonder if Matt has been on the horn to Kampe already trying to set up an OOC game (or multi-game series) at the Little Ceasars Arena (  😜  ) with a return to the ARC in 2018-19?

Doubt we'd play this year. 

I bet Kampe has to be fuming right now after the HL losing Valpo. Its win or bust this year with OU with that very heavy SR roster he has. They have to banking recruiting on showing results this upcoming season.

I bet we will schedule them again some time in the future. We scheduled them when they were in the Summit & we were in HL.

One other thing to keep in mind is we will have an OOC opening since we were in the middle of a 2-for-2 with Indiana State.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/861992695711092736
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/861993660157763584

[vu72]

The accepting school isn't going to want to seem too eager, and you have to keep up the visual of an invite and an acceptance. My guess is there will be a phote op and official announcement with Valpo officials and that's more of the negotiation that's happening than anything that could scuttle the deal. If Valpo wasn't going to accept they would have let the MVC know privately before the vote and put out their own announcement highlighting why either before or shortly after a decision was announced.

I get it.  Kinda like a candidate for President of a University, when the handwriting of rejection is all over the wall, announces he/her withdrawal from consideration.

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/862002635838279680

Valparaiso invited to Missouri Valley Conference
Crusaders would replace Wichita State as 10th member of league
Paul Oren Times Correspondent  May 9, 2017 Updated 10 min ago

...........

"Valparaiso director of athletics Mark LaBarbera refused comment more than an hour after the Valley announced Valparaiso's invitation. ""no further comment pending the negotiation of terms."

.............

"Those terms could involve an exit fee that would need to be paid to the Horizon League, allowing the Crusaders to immediately leave the league. There has also been precedent for an outgoing conference member to have to apply for a waiver to be eligible for postseason competition. The Horizon League softball tournament begins on Wednesday in Chicago and the baseball tournament will be held at the end of the month."

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[valpo84]

 

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now...
https://twitter.com/JRoseWXYZ/status/861969729707286528

Guessing Oakland is just warming up their old Summit League press materials and quotes from a few years ago when we left the AMCU-8/Mid-Con/Summit.

[vu72]

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now... [tweet]861969729707286528[/tweet]

Need to win a lot more HL league titles and start finishing in the top 100.

Wonder if Matt has been on the horn to Kampe already trying to set up an OOC game (or multi-game series) at the Little Ceasars Arena (  😜  ) with a return to the ARC in 2018-19?

Doubt we'd play this year. 

I bet Kampe has to be fuming right now after the HL losing Valpo. Its win or bust this year with OU with that very heavy SR roster he has. They have to banking recruiting on showing results this upcoming season.

I bet we will schedule them again some time in the future. We scheduled them when they were in the Summit & we were in HL.

One other thing to keep in mind is we will have an OOC opening since we were in the middle of a 2-for-2 with Indiana State.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/861992695711092736
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/861993660157763584

I'm wondering if Detroit isn't the next to vacate the building.  Think about it.  They were part of a conference with Butler, Loyola and Valpo and now they are the only private left.  Not sure where they go but if I were them I would be looking for the exit before another commuter school is added to replace us.

[VU2014]

 

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now...
https://twitter.com/JRoseWXYZ/status/861969729707286528

Guessing Oakland is just warming up their old Summit League press materials and quotes from a few years ago when we left the AMCU-8/Mid-Con/Summit.

Oh trust me a few of them have already been sniping at me by say our team is too chicken to schedule them.

I hope we don't them no favor next year and don't schedule them just get under their skin. I'm sure Kampe has already made a phone call to Matt asking him to play them.

We should say we'd think about giving them a 2-for-1 starting in 2018-2019 just to piss them off 

[oklahomamick]

Would we have gotten the invite if we would have stayed in the Summit?  Would we have been as successful the last 7 years if we would have stayed in the Summit, or more so?  Obviously we can't answer those questions, but interesting to think about. 

10 years in the HL and we only won the league half the time.....Pretty good.

[justducky]

Let me break this down to its simplest elements.

Our move to the HL was "one step forward" and it was a BIG one. Post -Butler it quickly became "two steps back" with the last few years being a backward sprint. This MVC move is another "one step forward". With the value of our hindsight, what can do to insure future MVC basketball stability?

Think about this? Didn't the 2007 Horizon League look like a better landing spot than the 2017 MVC? Doesn't that scare you? 

[IrishDawg]

Doubt we'd play this year. 

I bet Kampe has to be fuming right now after the HL losing Valpo. Its win or bust this year with OU with that very heavy SR roster he has. They have to banking recruiting on showing results this upcoming season.

I bet we will schedule them again some time in the future. We scheduled them when they were in the Summit & we were in HL.

On of thing to keep in mind is we will have an OOC opening since we were in the middle of a 2-for-2 with Indiana State.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/861992695711092736
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/861993660157763584

Props to you for trying, but a home & home isn't going to happen w/Butler.  Their OOC schedule is going to be plenty tough next season (3 games at the PK80 tourney, Crossroads Classic w/Purdue, home against Utah, possible away game for the Gavitt tip-off), and with 9 of their 13 scholarship players as underclassmen, they'll get a few more buy games against teams like Princeton that will do well in their own leagues and won't demand a return trip.

It took 14 years, 7 NCAA tournament appearances, 6 tournament wins and 2 Sweet 16 runs for Butler to finally get a home and home with old conference foe Xavier.  Good luck in the MVC, considering your average recruiting ranking is already higher than anyone else in the league, things should go pretty well.

[VULB#62]

Oh trust me a few of them have already been sniping at me by say our team is too chicken to schedule them.

I hope we don't them no favor next year and don't schedule them just get under their skin. I'm sure Kampe has already made a phone call to Matt asking him to play them.

We should say we'd think about giving them a 2-for-1 starting in 2018-2019 just to piss them off 

For the last few years we on this board have been lamenting the fact that good mid majors are not scheduling each other as much as they should and that has hurt all mid majors come March Madness. So now we leave the HL and pull a Butler?  I don't think so.  We are not hypocrites.  We should be putting our money where our mouth is.  We should immediately seek out OU, (whoever the second rated HL team is - NKU??), Belmont and Murray for 2017-18.  Unless the HL acts quickly each HL team will have to replace the two game slots on their schedule vacated by Valpo.  Offering back at least one game to a couple of the highest rated HL teams would be beneficial all around.

[vufan75]

My congratulations to ALL involved at Valpo for this decision to step up and move to the MVC. B of D, administration and Valpo Athletics all on same page it seems! Hope this marks a new era for Valpo Athletics in what I feel is historically a more prestigious conference overall.
Time now to play with the bigger boys and girls in all sports and recruit for that scenario. Now to hope we have a more immediate plan to address facility concerns once the dust settles.
#GoValpo #ValpoMBB #MVC #Valleyhoops #CrusaderFund

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[VU2014]

This the right move to make for Valpo.

The MVC was not what was 10 years ago or even 4 years ago but its still a notch or 2 above the HL for multiple reasons.

Its the best home for us at this moment and if we thrive here then you never know where it could take us... possibly a new non-football conference that doesn't exists yet. We will see more realignment the next 5-10yrs and schools will continue to come and go. When opportunity strikes you have to take it and worry about the future for when it comes and prepare the best you can for it. I'm quite happy with this leap to the MVC.

[a3uge]

Let me break this down to its simplest elements.

Our move to the HL was "one step forward" and it was a BIG one. Post -Butler it quickly became "two steps back" with the last few years being a backward sprint. This MVC move is another "one step forward". With the value of our hindsight, what can do to insure future MVC basketball stability?

Think about this? Didn't the 2007 Horizon League look like a better landing spot than the 2017 MVC? Doesn't that scare you? 

What is your alternative?

[vufan75]

Thanks for the good wishes IrishDawg! Still wish we could play each other annually. But guess that makes too much sense the way MBB Scheduling works anymore.

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[Valpo89]

I'm really happy about this move. Will miss Oakland, but that's about it.
Now Wright State, Milwaukee, Green Bay, UIC and Cleveland State know how Valpo felt, to some extent, in 1994.
Yes, I can hold a grudge a long time.

[VU2014]

Oh trust me a few of them have already been sniping at me by say our team is too chicken to schedule them.

I hope we don't them no favor next year and don't schedule them just get under their skin. I'm sure Kampe has already made a phone call to Matt asking him to play them.

We should say we'd think about giving them a 2-for-1 starting in 2018-2019 just to piss them off 

For the last few years we on this board have been lamenting the fact that good mid majors are not scheduling each other as much as they should and that has hurt all mid majors come March Madness. So now we leave the HL and pull a Butler?  I don't think so.  We are not hypocrites.  We should be putting our money where our mouth is.  We should immediately seek out OU, (whoever the second rated HL team is - NKU??), Belmont and Murray for 2017-18.  Unless the HL acts quickly each HL team will have to replace the two game slots on their schedule vacated by Valpo.  Offering back at least one game to a couple of the highest rated HL teams would be beneficial all around.

Relax.

It's just fun to poke fun at OU fans because they talk so much crap and they could be the most annoying MM fan-base. There may be actual OOC concerns for next season, so we might not be able to schedule them. I liked playing and I think we will continue playing them, but probably not next year if I had to take a guess.

-We have the West Coast Road Trip, playing Santa Clara & more (we're not going there to play 1 game)
-Northwestern
-Purdue
-Ball State
-I know I'm probably forgetting someone. (Lord help us if we get stuck playing Chicago State again. Please let it end!)

[FieldGoodie05]

Hahaha wow Detroit area reporter is already declaring Oakland "Top Dog" of the Conference now... [tweet]861969729707286528[/tweet]

Not far fetched if you go by last years results.  They whooped us home and away, given the refs took Tevonn out of the @ OU game.

[justducky]

Let me break this down to its simplest elements.

Our move to the HL was "one step forward" and it was a BIG one. Post -Butler it quickly became "two steps back" with the last few years being a backward sprint. This MVC move is another "one step forward". With the value of our hindsight, what can do to insure future MVC basketball stability?

Think about this? Didn't the 2007 Horizon League look like a better landing spot than the 2017 MVC? Doesn't that scare you? 

What is your alternative?

The MVC needs a transfusion of instant  . Who better than us? If this is public vs private and the publics are right then we should join or lead the publics with this movement. More later. Too busy to talk>