2017 Fall Football Camp

[VULB#62]

It is time to shift to rumors, guessing, conjecture and discussion of the preseason football camp goings on.

My first observation is that there was no discussion about positional depth - just experience. No mention about the QB position especially. I hope there will be lots of VUFB tweets and stuff that help us see what is happening on a daily/weekly basis.

GO VALPO.

[VUOR63]

What do the upperclassmen make the freshmen do nowadays?  The freshmen used to have to arrange a skit for the end of camp as well as learn and then sing the fight song on demand (usually at lunch to serenade the hardworking cafeteria ladies).

[valpofb16]

Alright just a few quick questions

1, I can do a preseason depth chart by games played last year and add in freshman and redshirts and update it weekly if anyone be interested?

2, I can also do player breakdowns again if members would like

A few quick hits

1. Tough loss on Hughes but nunes will help also expecting a big breakout year from Leandre a former 247sports 3 star

2. D line lost Michael Penn and Brent dicksom. Penn was quality depth. Dickson had a load of potential

3. Expecting 6 wins this year team much better however schedule is brutal for valpo

[VU2624]

Alright just a few quick questions 1, I can do a preseason depth chart by games played last year and add in freshman and redshirts and update it weekly if anyone be interested? 2, I can also do player breakdowns again if members would like A few quick hits 1. Tough loss on Hughes but nunes will help also expecting a big breakout year from Leandre a former 247sports 3 star 2. D line lost Michael Penn and Brent dicksom. Penn was quality depth. Dickson had a load of potential 3. Expecting 6 wins this year team much better however schedule is brutal for valpo

Put me down as interested

[VULB#62]

Now you have at least 2.

[vu72]

3

[IndyValpo]

Alright just a few quick questions

1, I can do a preseason depth chart by games played last year and add in freshman and redshirts and update it weekly if anyone be interested?

2, I can also do player breakdowns again if members would like

A few quick hits

1. Tough loss on Hughes but nunes will help also expecting a big breakout year from Leandre a former 247sports 3 star

2. D line lost Michael Penn and Brent dicksom. Penn was quality depth. Dickson had a load of potential

3. Expecting 6 wins this year team much better however schedule is brutal for valpo

Please add whatever you can the more the better! Thanks..

[VU2624]

I wonder if there will be any no shows. That might be a good idea for a future pool.

If a player or players don't show up, and I think typically there are a couple at least who don't, I wonder if they replace with one of the uninvited....who may even be there if they've decided to continue.

[valpofb16]

Here is a look at attrition

Attrition                  
Graduated   Player/Career   Notes                         Transferred/Not Invited to Camp      2016
LB   #3 Derrick Estell (25GP)   Bypassed RSSR         #2 CJ Elion    K   FR-DNP
CB   #6 Idode Kerobo (38GP)                    #5 Ryan Dugan   WR   SO-11GP
WR   #9 Ryan Shea (29GP)   Bypassed RSSR         #5 Bryce Crook   DB   FR-DNP
RB   #25 Denzell Conway (11GP)   Bypassed RSSR      #13 Grant Papenfuss   QB   FR-DNP
WR   #26 Tim Foley (6GP)   Bypassed RSSR         #22 Kyle Dye   DB   SO-6GP
TE   #27 Brett Fox (28GP)                            #23 Kellan Hughes   DB   JR-11GP AllPFLHM(Injury)
Snake#41 Charlie Hackett (17GP)                    #35 Kyle Bender   DB   FR-DNP
FB   #45 Kenny Floyd (1GP)   Bypassed RSSR         #36 Parker Welch   LB   FR-DNP
LS   #52 John Coyne (20GP)   Bypassed RSSR         #37 Kyle Farwick   LB   FR-3GP
OL   #64 Connor Rettig (23GP)   Bypassed RSSR       #38 Kyle Petroff   LB   FR-DNP
OL   #74 Brian Lang (23GP)   Bypassed RSSR         #40 Michael O'brien   LB   FR-1GP
DT   #90 Brandon Doepke (19GP)   Bypassed RSSR      #45 Taylor Allen   DB   FR-DNP
                                                       #46 Nolan Fortman   DB   FR-DNP
                                                       #48 Brent Dickson   DE   FR-2GP
                                                       #57 Torrin Sallis   DE   RSFR-1GP
                                                       #59 Tyree Thomas   LB   RSSO-DNP
                                                       #82 Jayson Reckards   WR   FR-DNP
                                                       #83 Chris Orlich   WR   FR-2GP
                                                       #85 Ronnie Reitz   WR   FR-DNP
                                                       #89 Thomas Hassel   TE   FR-DNP
                                                       #97 Michael Penn   DT   SO-10GP

[valpofb16]

Quarterback #9 Jimmy Seewald  SO.(10GP)   #4 Joe Mullen RSSO. (TRAN)   #14 Chris Duncan RSFR.   #13 Ryan Markoff FR.   #17 Trey Bilinski FR.   
Runningback #10 Jarrett Morgan SR. (10GP)   #32 Cody Boxrucker SO. (11GP)   #44 Kyle Cartales SO. (11GP)   #21 Elias Earley RSSO. (3GP)   #20 Doug Haugh FR.   
Fullback   #40 Brannen Matin RSFR.               
Tight End   #84 Mason Sutter JR. (11GP)   #87 Martin Petruff SO. (11GP)   #16 Ryan Clarke SR (8GP/QB)   #31 Alex Kluck FR.   #80 Brett Bitner FR.   
Tackle   #75 Shannon Taliaferro JR. (10GP)   #76 Alex Cotton RSSO. (3GP)   #50 James Zajac RSFR.   #74 Nick Johnson FR.      
Guard    #67 Eric Rentschler JR. (11GP)   #69 Alex Helander RSSO. (1GP)   #72 Solomon Kamara RSFR.   #72 Solomon Kamara RSFR.      
Center #65 Jack Jarnigan RSSO. (11GP)   #61 Sean Pierce SO. (7GP)   #50 John Horan RSSO.   #51 Nick Antonacci FR.      
Guard  #73 Tom Schofield JR. (11GP)   #70 Brady Sullivan RSSO. (1GP)   #64 Sean Stephens RSFR.   #78 Ronald Williams RSFR.   #66 Sam Vas FR.   
Tackle #77 Terrence Roberts RSSO. (1GP/MRS)   #60 Andrew Lundberg RSSO.(10GP)   #71 Bryce Biggs RSFR.   #79 Thomas Walsh FR.      
WR1   #1 Jean Rene JR. (11GP)   #8 Ryan Moore JR. (6GP)   #12 JD Koehler RSSO. (3GP)   #82 Deuce Larose FR.   #81 Antonio Dargaj FR.   
WR2   #30 Frank Catrine SR. (9GP)   #3 Parker Fox RSSO. (11GP)   #7 Dalton Stokes RSJR. (4GP/QB)   #86 Kevin Wright FR.   #26 Donny Navarro FR.   
WR3   #2 Griffin Norberg JR. (11GP)   #23 Bailey Gessinger SO. (11GP)   #33 Conor Beer FR.   #89 Josh Benson FR.   #19 Trey Stablein FR.   
NT    #56 Tristan De La Rosa SR. (10GP)   #93 James Reed SO. (10GP)   #42 Jake Iery JR. (3GP)   #90 Isaac Velasco FR.   #58 David Mason FR.   
DT   #99 Jakob Trumpower RSSO. (10GP)   #54 Jesse Studyvin JR. (3GP)   #44 Connor Sperling RSFR.   #96 Cameron Germain FR.   #62 Nathan Orlandini FR.   #92 Andrew Gerdys FR.
DE   #34 Jay Slone RSSR. (5GP)   #95 Murphy Osmond SO. (10GP)   #91 Jordan Goebel RSFR.   #97 Jeremiah Olojo FR.   #63 Jakob Rosiek FR.   #52 Cullen Bauer-Trotter RSFR. (TRAN)
Rush   #18 Mike Wheeler JR. (11GP)   #33 Gowan Baldwin JR. (10GP)   #38 Joey Poloskey FR.   #89 Cade Bishop FR.   #46 Joshua Baker FR.   
Snake   #7 Kye Hall SR. (9GP)   #31 Dylan Johnson SO. (11GP)   #36 Austin Petrie SO. (8GP/RB)   #6 Logan Pfizenmayer FR.   #35 Jake Gapinski FR.   
MIKE    #49 Nick Turner JR. (10 GP)   #39 Jack Buckley SO. (5GP)   #43 John Regan SR. (2GP)   #32 Gavin Twiff FR.      
WILL   #24 Drew Snouffer JR. (11GP)   #9 Tyler Newkirk SO. (8GP)   #47 Matthew Messler RSSO. (2GP)   #37 Laddie Skarecky FR.      
CB   #5 Jalin LeAndre JR. (9GP)   #2 Stacey Jones FR.   #21 Aaron King FR.   #27 Brent Brimmage FR.   #40 Tramone Duncan FR.   
S   #4 JJ Nunes RSSR. (1GP/MRS)   #15 Isaac Lane RSSO. (10GP)   #22 Kevin Geulce FR.   #41 Henry Hebda FR.      
S   #28 Josmar Diaz-Martinez JR. (11GP)   #20 Jamari Booker SO. (10GP)   #19 Bryce Leach FR.   #25 Dilan Scargle FR.   #45 David Hebda FR.   
CB   #11 Christian Campbell JR. (10GP)   #17 Brandon Riley SR. (10GP)   #14 Cam Kelly FR.   #29 Julian Benavides FR.      
K   #98 Jake Simpson RSJR (8GP)  #1 Dimitrios Latsonis (8GP)   
P       #88 Alex Ng (11GP)   #13 Kyle Ulbrich FR
LS   #99 Carter Puckett FR               

[valpofb16]

Notes

-Will Update post games
-Freshman and Transfers added in back
-DNP/RS ordered by year of eligibility
-I had a nice spreadsheet but forum won't let me post
-Ask if any follow up questions

[VULB#62]

Kellen Hughes is a big loss and you have him listed as injury-related.  Any detail?

[valpofb16]

Spinal/Neck injury in spring

[vu72]

A couple of questions:  First, is Seewald healthy?  Next, am I reading this correctly that Mullen is a transfer?  If so, from where? Finally, for now, why would Clarke switch from QB to be third string TE??

[valpofb16]

-No update on Seewald. Edit: I am about 50/50 Chris Duncan will take the first snap at Montana

-Mullen transferred from Tiffin where he did not play football

-As of Clarke, expect him to be starting long snapper, Petruf and Sutter are both quality tight ends and both played and started the double tight end set last year. Petruf also had a great spring and Sutter is a two year returning starter. I expect Clarke to play in every game and be featured in some double tight end sets. However it was either be a special teams, offense utility player, the teams long snapper, and travel every game, or be the team's third string quarterback. He went with the option to see the field.

[VU2624]

Couple of QB points/questions:

Mullen transferred in last year. I think he was injured during the spring.

What happened to Papenfuss? He was stated to be neck and neck with Duncan in the spring and I can't say either guy was all that overwhelming. Did he transfer? It wouldn't make a ton of sense to not invite him especially if Seewald does have a physical issue which will limit or eliminate him early.

I hope they don't pay down the road for the loss of that number of underclassmen.

Thanks for the great job on the roster. Outstanding.

One more question: Anyone know what happened to the kicker from Florida who won whatever state award as the best kicker they give out? He committed but haven't seen anything on him since.

[valpofb16]

Papenfuss was really third option in his class at quarterback and was from Florida. Combine that with the team bringing in two more quarterbacks and Valpo being none scholarship that is tough. If he lost his spot to one of the freshman he'd be fourth string looking at a Sophomore-Redshirt Freshman-Freshman/Mullen in front of him. That is a tough sell to stay

Kicker Logan Robinson is not reporting to camp however his name may surface as a walk on at a different school after camp ends.

Loss of Underclassmen


Receivers-This year's class is better. A lot better.
Linebackers-Same thing plus keeping the ones who contributed last year

[VU2624]

Thanks.

Papenfuss was really third option in his class at quarterback and was from Florida. Combine that with the team bringing in two more quarterbacks and Valpo being none scholarship that is tough. If he lost his spot to one of the freshman he'd be fourth string looking at a Sophomore-Redshirt Freshman-Freshman/Mullen in front of him. That is a tough sell to stay

Thanks. Comes across as you're saying this was his decision.

[valpofb16]

Don't personally know to be honest. Just adding up factors.

[VU2624]

Looking at the depth chart, CB looks a bit inexperienced with only 3 returners. Fate has a way of picking on those situations as well.

[usc4valpo]

Fb16 - this is outstanding reporting and many thanks for your insight.

[valpofb16]

Valpo football video had Tristan DE LARosa and Jimmy See Wald both practicing. Great signs

[VU2624]

Excellent news. Thanks for the heads up.

[bbtds]

Jimmy See Wald

Now when I see Jimmy's name I'll think of Lake Forest. 

[VU2624]

Valpo football video had Tristan DE LARosa and Jimmy See Wald both practicing. Great signs

Odd that the tweet with the video has been removed.