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Recruiting: 2020

Started by VU2014, October 26, 2017, 03:14:16 PM

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valpo64

Our recruiting moves and roster changes have always been held close to the vest so maybe there is something going on that we do not know about.  It sure wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.

vu84v2

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 28, 2020, 03:56:36 AM
Congratulations Jacob!

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1243517272443871233

As I am sure is the case with many of you, I have been taking long walks around my own and adjacent subdivisions in the last few weeks. Among the neighbors that I have gotten to know (or know better) - at a safe distance - is a new neighbor who is a former D3 college player and assistant high school coach in Wisconsin. He has seen Jacob play. His comments were that Jacob is very skilled, but not that athletic. His stats are obviously inflated some because of playing against such small schools, but he was surprised that he did not generate more interest from Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. He thinks he could be very good at Valpo.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: vu84v2 on April 06, 2020, 10:19:44 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 28, 2020, 03:56:36 AM
Congratulations Jacob!

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1243517272443871233

As I am sure is the case with many of you, I have been taking long walks around my own and adjacent subdivisions in the last few weeks. Among the neighbors that I have gotten to know (or know better) - at a safe distance - is a new neighbor who is a former D3 college player and assistant high school coach in Wisconsin. He has seen Jacob play. His comments were that Jacob is very skilled, but not that athletic. His stats are obviously inflated some because of playing against such small schools, but he was surprised that he did not generate more interest from Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. He thinks he could be very good at Valpo.

Thank you for sharing with the rest of us.  I am glad to hear of his skill level and personally I think that carries a player much further.  Frankly a young Parker Hazen was primarily athletic and taller than his competition, I bet he improves in college and is a good contributor as a senior somewhere.  But if a player relies solely on athleticism or size then I'd rather have a player that has honed his skill like a Dan Oppland.  The fact that Jacob has progressed as he has at the high school level means more, imo.

vu72

Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:


https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm


Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

SanityLost17

Quote from: vu72 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:29 PM
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:


https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm


Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)

People say he's not very athletic, but neither is Krikke.    They are a similar size.    I don't think Krikke would have put up those numbers as a senior in high school in the small school division in Wisconsin, so I'm assuming at WORST he will have a similar freshman year as Krikke but I really think he will be quite a bit better.   

vu72

Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 16, 2020, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:29 PM
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:


https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm


Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)

People say he's not very athletic, but neither is Krikke.    They are a similar size.    I don't think Krikke would have put up those numbers as a senior in high school in the small school division in Wisconsin, so I'm assuming at WORST he will have a similar freshman year as Krikke but I really think he will be quite a bit better.   

"They" said the same thing about Alec Peters!
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

wh

Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 16, 2020, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:29 PM
Found these astounding stats on Jacob for his Senior year:


https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/basketball/stats.htm


Not only did he score 1,024 points, averaging 39 ppg and 16 rebounds, but he shot 77% from the 2, 86% from the line and.........wait for it......40 of 82 from the 3!!!!!! (49%)

People say he's not very athletic, but neither is Krikke.    They are a similar size.    I don't think Krikke would have put up those numbers as a senior in high school in the small school division in Wisconsin, so I'm assuming at WORST he will have a similar freshman year as Krikke but I really think he will be quite a bit better.   

IMO Ben is more athletic than you give him credit for. As for Jacob, I've watched and rewatched more video on him than any player I can recall, trying to determine how his small HS background will translate to big time college basketball. Bottom line, I think he's the real deal. I don't expect him to stand out right out of the gate, given all the quality returning players we'll have, but he could play a major role in year 2 and beyond. As to Ben, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think he is a star in the making.

M

Agree with WH...have you actually watched him in the pregame warmups...dude has the best dunks out there!

SanityLost17

Quote from: M on April 21, 2020, 07:41:59 AM
Agree with WH...have you actually watched him in the pregame warmups...dude has the best dunks out there!

I fully expect that the 4 and 5 positions might actually be a strength for us next year as all three look to be 3 point threats.   Krikke with a year under his belt, McMillan improving leaps and bounds every year, and JO being D1 ready immediately.    I could see those guys all averaging 20-25 minutes a game at the 4/5 positions eating up the majority of the time at those positions.   

VUBBFan


vu72

Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

VUGrad1314

I have a feeling we're going to like Sheldon Edwards quite a bit. Could be another gem.

M

With JFL heading out, who are we in on?

VU2014

Quote from: M on April 28, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
With JFL heading out, who are we in on?

No clue, but I would lock down a scholarship with anyone who doesn't project to have a high ceiling, unless they are a grad-transfer stop gap.

Keon Thompson and Chris Mantis are the Top 2 2020 targets, imo. I know Ball State is recruiting Chris pretty hard and I would be so disappointed if we lost out on Keon to Drake.

wh

Quote from: M on April 28, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
With JFL heading out, who are we in on?

We made 4 2020 offers and signed 3. The 4th, 6-8 Jeremiah Oden, Sunrise Christian Academy, is still unsigned. I see he has received 24 offers. 23, including Valpo, are still open. Rivals and 247 Sports rank him 3 stars.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jeremiah-oden



VUBBFan


Quote from: wh on April 28, 2020, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: M on April 28, 2020, 09:53:31 AMWith JFL heading out, who are we in on?
We made 4 2020 offers and signed 3. The 4th, 6-8 Jeremiah Oden, Sunrise Christian Academy, is still unsigned. I see he has received 24 offers. 23, including Valpo, are still open. Rivals and 247 Sports rank him 3 stars. http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jeremiah-oden


We had more offers than 4. Oden is just the last one we offered that has not signed with any team. Jeremiah Williams was one we had a offer out to and he signed with Temple last week so his name disappeared from our list. There were other offers to players that I don't remember what their names were, but they have all signed elsewhere.

VU2014

#491
There are legs to the news about the Canadian recruit we were recently showing interest in

vu72

Quote from: VU2014 on April 30, 2020, 12:13:15 PM
There is legs up the Canadian recruit we were showing interest in recently

what?  ???
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015



bbtds

#495
Reminder that Quebec uses a system in education of 3 years of high school, 2 years of something called CEGEP which is like a college prep and then 3 years of a university. When Tavonn Walker and Max Joseph finished their CEGEP school they were given 4 years at Valpo.

Jean-de-Brébeuf of Montreal is a private college which is comparable to the public school CEGEP. Brebeuf includes in it's alumni Pierre and Justin Trudeau, Prime Ministers of Canada.


Wikipedia

Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf (French: [kɔ.lɛʒ ʒɑ̃ də bʁe.bœf]) is a private, previously Jesuit French-language educational institution offering secondary school and college-level instruction in Quebec. It was a boys' school but since 2014 admits both girls and boys.

The school is located at 3200 Côte-Sainte-Catherine Road. Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf is also a boarding school for college students wishing to reside at the college from Monday to Friday, and also during weekends.

Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf is commonly seen as one of the foremost schools in Canada and in Quebec, and it has the first place in the Fraser Institute School Ranking as of 2016.

With alumni Pierre Trudeau and Justin Trudeau, Brebeuf is the secondary education institution that has produced the most Canadian Prime ministers in the country. It also was the alma mater of Quebec Premiers Robert Bourassa and Pierre-Marc Johnson, and of Leaders of the Official Opposition of Quebec such as, André Boisclair and Pierre-Karl Péladeau.

Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf offers a number of two-year pre-university programs (unlike public colleges, it does not offer technical programs, which typically take around three years to complete and lead directly to certification for a specific trade or profession). Pre-university college degrees cover subject matter roughly equivalent to that of the additional year of high school given elsewhere in Canada in preparation for a chosen field of study in university.

Post-secondary students attending Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf can choose one of several programs of study, depending on the concentrations required for the university program in which they intend to pursue their studies. The college offers programs in Social Science, Literature & Communications, Health Science, Pure and Applied Science and Arts & Sciences.

Athletics
The school is known for being very competitive in basketball, lacrosse and fencing, having won provincial titles in basketball several times and having many of its former students fence at international levels. The school also competes at provincial and regional level hockey, volleyball, cheerleading, broomball, cross country running, badminton and rugby competitions. The school's lacrosse team has been in the finals for the four years it has played[when?] and has won the title three consecutive years.

bbtds

#496
RSEQ is the equivilent of the IHSA in Illinois, the IHSAA in Indiana and the WIAA in Wisconsin. It stands for Quebec Student Sport Network.

The Réseau du sport étudiant du Québec (RSEQ; literal translation: Quebec Student Sports Network) is the current name for the organisation formerly known as the Quebec Student Sports Federation (QSSF) in English. RSEQ is the governing body of primary and secondary school, collegiate and university sport in Quebec. It also serves as a regional membership association for Canadian universities which assists in co-ordinating competition between their university level athletic programs and providing contact information, schedules, results, and releases about those programs and events to the public and the media. This is similar to what would be called a "college athletic conference" in the United States.

The RSEQ, which covers Quebec, is one of four such bodies that are members of the country's governing body for university athletics, U Sports. The other three regional associations coordinating university-level sports in Canada are Ontario University Athletics (OUA), Atlantic University Sport (AUS), and the Canada West Universities Athletic Association (CW).

The RSEQ was initially known as the Quebec Universities Athletic Association (QUAA) when it was founded in 1971 with the reformulations of three university athletic associations spanning the universities of Ontario and Quebec. After the merger between the university, collegiate and high school governing bodies in 1989, the amalgamated association was named to the QSSF and then renamed RSEQ in November 2010.

As with all of Canada's provincial high school athletics associations, the RSEQ is an affiliate member of the United States-based National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS)
headquartered in Indianapolis next to the NCAA.

vu72

The class is complete!  Matt has made it clear that he values athletes over giants and puts a premium on shooters.  We've got a lot of both in this group!

http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19851/goodnews-kpegeol-joins-valpo-basketball-program/
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

wh

#498
Quote from: vu72 on May 06, 2020, 04:10:12 PM
The class is complete!  Matt has made it clear that he values athletes over giants and puts a premium on shooters.  We've got a lot of both in this group!

http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2019-20/19851/goodnews-kpegeol-joins-valpo-basketball-program/
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Matt's 3rd consecutive stellar recruiting class, and possibly his best. My only regret is that I will be gone for several weeks in Oct. and Nov. and won't get to see those early games where everyone gets to play. Always fun.

SanityLost17

I am curious as to why he left Kansas State after only 1 semester?    Anybody read anything?