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Recruiting: 2020

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Quote from: valpo64 on January 05, 2020, 03:43:42 PM
Remember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach.  Jacob has broken  Sam's scoring records from what I understand.  Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.

Seth Cloclasure set many HS records for Indiana too. He was pretty good but in no way dominated like he did in HS. There is a transition to college ball that some HS players just don't do like they did in HS.

wh

Quote from: valpo64 on January 05, 2020, 03:43:42 PM
Remember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach.  Jacob has broken  Sam's scoring records from what I understand.  Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.

Ok, I spent a lot of time over the weekend watching video and reading commentary about Jacob, including from his AAU team against D-1 level talent.  Not a doubt in my mind that he is the real deal.  In fact, thank goodness he plays against small school competition.  D-1 Major recruiters are hesitant to take a chance on small school success translating into big time D-1 athletics success, especially early in the recruiting process.  Fortunately for us, Jacob wanted to make his choice before his senior year began; otherwise, undoubtedly we would be directly competing with D-1 Major programs by now.  As good as he was last year, this year's videos are more impressive.  His all around speed and athleticism have improved.  He's more flexible, has a variety of post moves.  He is a very good leaper.  Unlike a lot of players (including Javon) he's equally capable of throwing down monster dunks off either 1 foot (drive to the hoop)or 2 (straight up underneath). He can drive under the hoop, cross over to the other side, spin 180 degrees in mid air and throw down a monster dunk. Oh, and he has a very nice looking jump shot with easy 3-pt. range.

IMO the 2020 recruiting class is the 2nd Matt Lottich home run in a row.  Donovan and Ben are grand slams.  I'm excited to see how this new class will perform.  This is the way good programs are built and sustained.  Matt is doing everything right and deserves our respect and full support - short term and long term.

vu72

Thanks wh, great report.  I'm doing a little digging on the other two and found this video (not sure it hasn't been posted earlier) on Sheldon Edwards.  This kid has NBA range and reminds me a little of Javon with the athleticism and ability to cut to the basket and finish.

https://youtu.be/ssBfBQYHvYs
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VUGrad1314

Quote from: wh on January 06, 2020, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 05, 2020, 03:43:42 PMRemember that this is the same school that former Wisconsin Sam Dekker attended, in fact his Dad is the head coach.  Jacob has broken  Sam's scoring records from what I understand.  Dekker was a big time star in the Big 10, or 12 what ever it its.
Ok, I spent a lot of time over the weekend watching video and reading commentary about Jacob, including from his AAU team against D-1 level talent.  Not a doubt in my mind that he is the real deal.  In fact, thank goodness he plays against small school competition.  D-1 Major recruiters are hesitant to take a chance on small school success translating into big time D-1 athletics success, especially early in the recruiting process.  Fortunately for us, Jacob wanted to make his choice before his senior year began; otherwise, undoubtedly we would be directly competing with D-1 Major programs by now.  As good as he was last year, this year's videos are more impressive.  His all around speed and athleticism have improved.  He's more flexible, has a variety of post moves.  He is a very good leaper.  Unlike a lot of players (including Javon) he's equally capable of throwing down monster dunks off either 1 foot (drive to the hoop)or 2 (straight up underneath). He can drive under the hoop, cross over to the other side, spin 180 degrees in mid air and throw down a monster dunk. Oh, and he has a very nice looking jump shot with easy 3-pt. range. IMO the 2020 recruiting class is the 2nd Matt Lottich home run in a row.  Donovan and Ben are grand slams.  I'm excited to see how this new class will perform.  This is the way good programs are built and sustained.  Matt is doing everything right and deserves our respect and full support - short term and long term.



This is amazing. We have a player that broke the records of not only a big star in a major conference Dekker was a key performer in deep NCAA tournament runs and was a first round pick in the NBA Draft if my memory serves. If Jacob comes anywhere close to that we are going to be so grateful to have him alongside Donovan Ben Javon and (at least for next year Eron and Nick.) You're making me excited again wh and 64. I need to see results on the floor but this report has me more hopeful than I was before I read it.

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vu72

Jacob breaks the 2000 point level!  Great lengthy video really shows his footwork and overall skills.  Granted, it was against the Little Sisters of the Poor but still, the guy will have a much needed inside/outside game.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/sheboygan-lutherans-jacob-ognacevic-joins-2k-point-club/ar-BBZhtdo
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FWalum

Looking forward to seeing Jacob Ognacevic in a VU uniform and hope that his game will translate to the college level despite playing in a lower level class in Wisconsin. I was worried about his athleticism last year, but it appears that perhaps he has started to mature a bit and from this recent video he appears to be more athletic than I remember. Since he is averaging 36 ppg he has to be approaching 2300 points in his high school career.

https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm
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FWalum

#382
We really haven't talked much about Conner Barrett who is playing a Prep school year at Brewster Academy. I spent some time looking for stats, but it didn't appear that many are available. I could only find one game in which Conner had 10 points. He is playing with a bunch of High Major guys so it will be interesting to see what he looks like coming in with an additional year of maturity (he is now listed as 6' 5" and even 6' 6" on at least one site) and playing and practicing with basically an all-star roster. This PDF roster shows who the players have signed with as of November.  His Brewster Hudl profile has a short video of him shooting 2 threes.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1578056908/brewsteracademyorg/c2s5zxjousmlw7a5tuyh/2019-20Roster13.pdf

https://www.hudl.com/profile/13782953/Connor-Barrett
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valpo64

Like his quick release...anxious to see him in Valpo brown and gold along with Jacob next year.

valpo84

Interesting name on that list was Jamal Mashburn Jr, and signed to play with Ricky Pitino at Minny (Dad played for Rick at UK I believe).
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valpo64

There are rumbles around that Ricky is on the hot seat at Minnesota.

SanityLost17

Quote from: FWalum on February 24, 2020, 10:53:09 AM
Looking forward to seeing Jacob Ognacevic in a VU uniform and hope that his game will translate to the college level despite playing in a lower level class in Wisconsin. I was worried about his athleticism last year, but it appears that perhaps he has started to mature a bit and from this recent video he appears to be more athletic than I remember. Since he is averaging 36 ppg he has to be approaching 2300 points in his high school career.

https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/jacob-ognacevic/fxynjqbOEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/videos.htm

Krutweig is not super athletic nor super tall.  He is smart, strong, and crafty.   And he dominates.    Clearly these 2 are different types of players, but you don't have to be super athletic to be really good. 

oklahomamick

I Swear Krutweig is in my over 40 league
CRUSADERS!!!

FWalum

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 27, 2020, 04:47:02 PM
I Swear Krutweig is in my over 40 league
And he has the hairline to prove it.  ;)
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FWalum

Just like Connor Barrett, Sheldon Edwards has also used this year to go to a Prep school and will be coming to VU basically as a Sophomore in maturity.  This could really help both of these two players and it will be VERY interesting to see if they act and perform more like Freshman or as players with a little more experience.
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NativeCheesehead

Krutwig isn't athletic, but he's got a sneaky quick first step in the post.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 27, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
Krutwig isn't athletic, but he's got a sneaky quick first step in the post.

I think Krikke has the same quick first step.  I think we might see one of the biggest YOY improvement from him.

vufan75

Back last fall Valpo was recruiting Jeremiah Williams, who had transferred for his senior year to Simeon High School in the CPL. He visited Valpo, but decided to not commit to any school at that time.

Apparently Valpo is still in the mix per the linked article below. He says he's leaning to SIU now. Mullins has done a heck of a job at SIU in his short tenure. Loyola also is mentioned among his current suitors.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/2/27/21156276/jeremiah-williams-simeon-basketball



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Valpower

Quote from: vufan75 on February 27, 2020, 07:50:31 PM
Back last fall Valpo was recruiting Jeremiah Williams, who had transferred for his senior year to Simeon High School in the CPL. He visited Valpo, but decided to not commit to any school at that time.

Apparently Valpo is still in the mix per the linked article below. He says he's leaning to SIU now. Mullins has done a heck of a job at SIU in his short tenure. Loyola also is mentioned among his current suitors.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/2/27/21156276/jeremiah-williams-simeon-basketball



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Speaking of old-looking (from another thread on Krutwig), Williams looks like he's in his 30's.


VUGrad1314

Do we have an open scholarship anyway? I don't think we do.

FWalum

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 27, 2020, 09:21:47 PM
Do we have an open scholarship anyway? I don't think we do.

We do not.
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VU2014

Quote from: FWalum on February 27, 2020, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 27, 2020, 09:21:47 PM
Do we have an open scholarship anyway? I don't think we do.

We do not.

That could change as we all know. I haven't heard anything but it's just the nature of CBB these days. I don't think he lands at Valpo but I he's going to be a very nice college player.

VUGrad1314

Well it sounds like there's a good chance he's going to end up in the Valley with SIU and Loyola on his list as well and that would be good for all of us. The more good players in this league the better.

VUBBFan


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