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Quote from: VU2014 on July 19, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1019969075831869440
Anyone know of any broadcasting or streaming information for this event?  Would love to be able to watch some games next week.
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http://www.usateam.org/fisu-america

There's a "Watch Live" link to Facebook on that page.

Basketball is on the schedule starting July 24 through July 28

Here's the )(&*)@#&* Roster...

First   Last   Position   University
Shannon   Bogues   G   Stephen F Austin
Eli   Cain   G   DePaul
Phlandrous   Fleming   G   Charleston Southern
Markus   Golder   G   Valporaiso
TJ   Holyfield   F   Stephen F Austin
Drew   McDonald   F   Northern Kentucky
Joshua   Nebo   F   Texas A&M
Tayler   Persons   G   Ball State
Frederick   Scott   F   Rider
William   Wampler   F   Wright State

talksalot

http://www.usateam.org/mbb-fisu-america-games   for the schedule

USA is in Group B

Wednesday 7/25    7:15pm USA vs loser Mexico/Chile
Thursday 7/26     7:15pm  USA vs. Winner Mexico/Chile


Friday:  7/27:   B1 plays at 7:15   B2 plays at 5:30 and B3 plays at 11am

Saturday 7/28, thinking positively, the Gold Metal game is at 6pm vs the Group A Winner (Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay); the Bronze Metal Game is at 4:15pm



vu72

Quote from: EddieCabot on July 19, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 18, 2018, 09:44:42 PM
Rob is a pretty in the know guy. Just hype or does he know something we don't know? I like Sackey's potential but starting lineup for a freshman PG seems like a stretch for me. Bakari is going to be a starter. I could see Sackey and Bakari playing together though. I honestly don't know what to expect from Sackey his freshman season. Has anyone seen how he looks in one of the skills sessions (practice)?

https://twitter.com/RobBehrend/status/1019715885647433728

Wow!  Can't wait to see this guy play!

I doubt he makes the starting lineup.  You don't start two freshman when you have other choices.  Perhaps Rob is suggesting that Javon isn't that good.  Bakari is an all conference type talent and Micah surely will see the court.  Oh, and we didn't sign a grad transfer to see him in the game only in blow out situations. Even if Daniel is that college ready, his size will be an issue when he is called on to guard a 6'4" or 6'5" guard.
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justducky

Quote from: vu72 on July 19, 2018, 04:54:39 PMI doubt he makes the starting lineup.  You don't start two freshman when you have other choices.  Perhaps Rob is suggesting that Javon isn't that good.  Bakari is an all conference type talent and Micah surely will see the court.  Oh, and we didn't sign a grad transfer to see him in the game only in blow out situations. Even if Daniel is that college ready, his size will be an issue when he is called on to guard a 6'4" or 6'5" guard.
Predicting point guard playing time with this bunch has the potential to make all of us look stupid. I don't even know how to rank them. Maybe Evelyn would be best but he will likely play as much or more at the 3 and 2. Lavender started a number of games as a backup point even with him being a more natural 2. On top of this Micah can not be overlooked.

So ???

In the early going 72 could be right about the freshman not being on the floor together but as the year progresses -- who knows?

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: justducky on July 19, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 19, 2018, 04:54:39 PMI doubt he makes the starting lineup.  You don't start two freshman when you have other choices.  Perhaps Rob is suggesting that Javon isn't that good.  Bakari is an all conference type talent and Micah surely will see the court.  Oh, and we didn't sign a grad transfer to see him in the game only in blow out situations. Even if Daniel is that college ready, his size will be an issue when he is called on to guard a 6'4" or 6'5" guard.
Predicting point guard playing time with this bunch has the potential to make all of us look stupid. I don't even know how to rank them. Maybe Evelyn would be best but he will likely play as much or more at the 3 and 2. Lavender started a number of games as a backup point even with him being a more natural 2. On top of this Micah can not be overlooked.

So ???

In the early going 72 could be right about the freshman not being on the floor together but as the year progresses -- who knows?

Sometimes it seemed like Bakari had a difficult time running the offense as a true pg.  He seemed better off the ball, though last year was a mess.  I think we'd do well to limit Bakari at the point.  I may get slammed here, but Bakari is not an outstanding athlete.  He's shifty but was bottled up well by our opponents.  Think he's matchups are better off the ball, on both ends of the court.  He had a difficult time keeping in front of quick pg.

historyman

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 18, 2018, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: IrishDawg on July 18, 2018, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 18, 2018, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 18, 2018, 09:34:23 AMLet them know you want a piece on Valpo Basketball https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/1019573884423671808



I doubt we'll get any kind of coverage from them (especially positive) unless it's totally earned and they have no choice. I wouldn't be surprised if we're almost totally blackballed by them and they totally hate us after last year when certain fans whined about not getting enough coverage for starting 8-0 in that layup drill we called the first 2\3 of our nonconference schedule.

Why would you think that?  I don't get the impression that mid-major madness is in the business of denying coverage to teams if they deserve it.  If Valpo does well against West Virginia and Western Kentucky or starts out well in the MVC, they'll get coverage.

I got a strong sense from last year that the people who run that site have a vindictive streak.

Why? Are they unhinged right wing nuts like James Woods and Ryan Fournier?
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VU2014

Some clarity on Lavender's potential role.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1020069465239810049
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1020070393074339840
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1020070393908989953
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1020070698813976577

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on July 19, 2018, 08:36:50 PM
Quote from: justducky on July 19, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 19, 2018, 04:54:39 PMI doubt he makes the starting lineup.  You don't start two freshman when you have other choices.  Perhaps Rob is suggesting that Javon isn't that good.  Bakari is an all conference type talent and Micah surely will see the court.  Oh, and we didn't sign a grad transfer to see him in the game only in blow out situations. Even if Daniel is that college ready, his size will be an issue when he is called on to guard a 6'4" or 6'5" guard.
Predicting point guard playing time with this bunch has the potential to make all of us look stupid. I don't even know how to rank them. Maybe Evelyn would be best but he will likely play as much or more at the 3 and 2. Lavender started a number of games as a backup point even with him being a more natural 2. On top of this Micah can not be overlooked.

So ???

In the early going 72 could be right about the freshman not being on the floor together but as the year progresses -- who knows?

Sometimes it seemed like Bakari had a difficult time running the offense as a true pg.  He seemed better off the ball, though last year was a mess.  I think we'd do well to limit Bakari at the point.  I may get slammed here, but Bakari is not an outstanding athlete.  He's shifty but was bottled up well by our opponents.  Think he's matchups are better off the ball, on both ends of the court.  He had a difficult time keeping in front of quick pg.

I'm not sure Bakari will ever be a true PG like a Keith Carter but the hope could be that he could be a sufficient PG at times the next few seasons. He definitely has the ability to play off the ball. Bakari's 3 point shooting really improved as the season went on. I like that we have the versatility to play him at the 2 when needed. One thing to keep in mind that this past season was his first full basketball season since his junior year of high school. He played well given the long layoff and he has the chance to get even better. I'm sure we'll be seeing Micah and Bakari out there at the same time.

The minutes distributions will be interesting to watch this season. Coach Lottich will need to trust guys on defense to earn a good share of minutes.

IrishDawg

Lavender's issue is similar to Bakari's. Too many possessions ending in turnovers. He cleans that up and I think he can play that role well next season.




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wh

Quote from: valpopal on July 25, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
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vu72

In watching some of the half time, Marcus' shot looks great.  Hardly missed from the 3.  Don't much care for the broadcast, could barely understand the guy.  I think they need a new PA system!  Might as well have been broadcast in Spanish.
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vu72

Quote from: VULB#62 on July 25, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
Portuguese?

seeing that it is Brazil, that makes sense.  Still didn't understand a word!  ;)
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VUBBFan


Quote from: vu72 on July 25, 2018, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 25, 2018, 06:54:44 PMPortuguese?
seeing that it is Brazil, that makes sense.  Still didn't understand a word!  ;)
They did do an interview with Golder at the end that was in English. He was the only one they interviewed.

wh

Quote from: VUBBFan on July 25, 2018, 07:36:11 PM

Quote from: vu72 on July 25, 2018, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 25, 2018, 06:54:44 PMPortuguese?
seeing that it is Brazil, that makes sense.  Still didn't understand a word!  ;)
They did do an interview with Golder at the end that was in English. He was the only one they interviewed.

Did anyone see his stat line?

VU2014

Did anyone find a stat line for the game? I only caught the final few minutes of the game and Golder was on the bench. How did he look?

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/1022482043261747200

VUBBFan


Quote from: VU2014 on July 26, 2018, 12:02:02 PMDid anyone find a stat line for the game? I only caught the final few minutes of the game and Golder was on the bench. How did he look?
Can't find a stat line but he looked alright. Nothing special but he did drive left to the basket and score plus he had one of his signature slams off a rebound.


vu72

Quote from: VUBBFan on July 26, 2018, 12:41:03 PM

Quote from: VU2014 on July 26, 2018, 12:02:02 PMDid anyone find a stat line for the game? I only caught the final few minutes of the game and Golder was on the bench. How did he look?
Can't find a stat line but he looked alright. Nothing special but he did drive left to the basket and score plus he had one of his signature slams off a rebound.



Agreed, the crew didn't do the best job in following the action and the view was pretty tight so you couldn't really follow him all that much.  I saw the drive using his left hand and he scored off the glass a couple of time.  The slam off the rebound was cool.  I know he took a couple of 3's, not sure if any went in.  I saw him shooting in warmups and he was hitting everyone.
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Valpower

Quote from: vu72 on July 26, 2018, 01:14:36 PM
I saw him shooting in warmups and he was hitting everyone.

I was hoping he'd gotten his temper in check, but apparently not!  ;)

VU2014

Quote from: Valpower on July 26, 2018, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 26, 2018, 01:14:36 PM
I saw him shooting in warmups and he was hitting everyone.

I was hoping he'd gotten his temper in check, but apparently not!  ;)

Speaking of tempers. Ball State's Tayler Persons is on the team with Golder. Those two will be squaring off next season at the ARC. I really want that W.

FWalum

Quote from: VUBBFan on July 26, 2018, 12:41:03 PM

Quote from: VU2014 on July 26, 2018, 12:02:02 PMDid anyone find a stat line for the game? I only caught the final few minutes of the game and Golder was on the bench. How did he look?
Can't find a stat line but he looked alright. Nothing special but he did drive left to the basket and score plus he had one of his signature slams off a rebound.
I also watched the game and thought that he looked pretty good.  It looked like he was consciously making an effort to use the left hand.  Was crashing the boards pretty well which precipitated the putback slam. I think that he took 3 3's but I don't think that he made any of them (I could be wrong on the number and the makes because the video was pretty bad at following the action and showing the court). Was hustling nicely on defense making some plays and being his effervescent self encouraging his teammates.  My impression was that he seemed to be one of the best at trying to play a "team" game and when asked in the ending interview he talked mainly about how the team stepped it up on defense in the second half and that the defensive play was the reason they pulled away at the end.  Overall a decent performance and attitude.
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