MVC Hoops: 2018-19

[EddieCabot]

Valpo itself got screwed in the first 4 out in the 15-16 season.

Valpo did get screwed ... left out despite being 26-6 on Selection Sunday with wins over Oregon State and Rhode Island.  I don't know what more they could have done.  If that team didn't get in, it leaves me pretty pessimistic about ever getting an at-large unless the process is changed.

[IrishDawg]

Valpo itself got screwed in the first 4 out in the 15-16 season.

Valpo did get screwed ... left out despite being 26-6 on Selection Sunday with wins over Oregon State and Rhode Island.  I don't know what more they could have done.  If that team didn't get in, it leaves me pretty pessimistic about ever getting an at-large unless the process is changed.

You should be pessimistic.  The committee's about the number of quality wins that teams have, and mid-majors are always going to lag in that department because of scheduling issues.  Schools that don't get many shots (like a Valpo) basically have to win all their games to get consideration.  In the case of Valpo, had they won the Oregon game (beating a Rhode Island team that didn't make the NCAA or NIT isn't a quality win) and avoided the home loss to Wright State, I think they get in.  As it were, the last 4 teams in that year (Tulsa, Vanderbilt, Michigan and Wichita State) all had better wins than Valpo's over Oregon State, and more of them.

[may know]

Tulsa had a political connection with the selection chair that got them in. Something like 1-4 brackets on BracketMatrix had them in - a record since the site started.

Monmouth had wins over Notre Dame, UCLA, USC, Georgetown, & Rutgers and was left out for Tulsa.

[IrishDawg]

Tulsa had a political connection with the selection chair that got them in. Something like 1-4 brackets on BracketMatrix had them in - a record since the site started.

Monmouth had wins over Notre Dame, UCLA, USC, Georgetown, & Rutgers and was left out for Tulsa.

Georgetown, Rutgers and UCLA didn't make the tournament or NIT that year, so while they were big name wins, they aren't necessarily wins that would get a team in the tournament.  They also lost to Canisius, Army and Manhattan, which are all 230+ kenpom level teams.  I actually think Valpo's resume was better than Monmouth's that year because their worst loss was a home loss to Wright State, which at least was a top 150ish team.  They blew out teams at a similar level to Army, Canisius and Manhattan all year.

Tulsa's resume included wins over Wichita State, Temple, Cincinnati, UConn and Houston, all of which either made the tournament (4) or the NIT.  Their worst loss was to Oral Roberts at home, which is really bad as Oral Roberts was around 175th on kenpom, but they didn't lose another game to another 100+ level team on kenpom all year.

[VU2014]

Yarbrough is an all-conference caliber player.

https://twitter.com/pjstarsports/status/994343827988086784

[VULB#62]

Key word: "again"

[bbtds]

Yarbrough is an all-conference caliber player.

https://twitter.com/pjstarsports/status/994343827988086784

Wow, wow, wow!

Marco's Pizza in Pekin is closing! Will wonders never end.....................








oh yeah, Yarbrough got arrested again...........yawn..........







as long as he is scoring 16-some a game Muller don't care that much.

[VUGrad1314]

Evansville's nonconference schedule is out Just one game missing from it. A big improvement over their previous scheduling practices.

https://gopurpleaces.com/images/2018/5/9/18_nonconfmbb_web.jpg?width=1416&height=797&mode=crop

[EddieCabot]

Evansville's nonconference schedule is out Just one game missing from it. A big improvement over their previous scheduling practices.

https://gopurpleaces.com/images/2018/5/9/18_nonconfmbb_web.jpg?width=1416&height=797&mode=crop

Playing BSU twice in non-con ... interesting.

[VU2014]

Good article.

If Valparaiso ever went on a Sweet 16 type run, would we be able to pay a Head Coach in the $900,000 range like UNI and Loyola?

https://twitter.com/DaveReynolds2/status/994347324624252928

http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20180509/power-conferences-well-above-valley-pay-grade

[NativeCheesehead]

Somewhere Greg Kampe is frantically refreshing his twitter feed to see if Malik becomes available.

[may know]

Austin Reaves a Wichita State transfer who looked like he might be headed to UNI as of a few days ago is now also considering Indiana Purdue and Michigan. That can't be good for the Panthers chances. I think it's clear that this kid wants to go P5 and Northern Iowa is just a safety valve. I hope I'm wrong and UNI does get him but this development leaves me less than optimistic.

Those schools were mentioned from the start as landing places. This is just Rothstein throwing crap against a wall to reignite clicks in a topic that hasn't had news in a week. He also mentioned Indiana - who doesn't have an open ride.

He took a visit to Oklahoma and it went poorly. He took a visit to UNI and it went so well he extended by by two days just to hang out with people more. As proof of this he was seen at a restaurant with players 2 days after his official visit. We signed one of his best friends from growing up in Shandon Goldman. He wants to go somewhere he feels welcomed.

Until he shows up in either one of those campuses for an official visit there's no reason to believe anything other than he's UNI bound based in everything I've been told. I was given a % from a connected source that would put him at a high A at landing at UNI.

Austin Reaves commits to Oklahoma

[VU2014]

Sounds like that UNI visit must have went really poorly 

[VU2014]

Steve Helm was a part of the school record breaking 4x400-meter relay team.

https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/995872496904802309
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/996188422363545600

[vu72]

Old news.  Posted about it yesterday! 

[a3uge]

Austin Reaves a Wichita State transfer who looked like he might be headed to UNI as of a few days ago is now also considering Indiana Purdue and Michigan. That can't be good for the Panthers chances. I think it's clear that this kid wants to go P5 and Northern Iowa is just a safety valve. I hope I'm wrong and UNI does get him but this development leaves me less than optimistic.

Those schools were mentioned from the start as landing places. This is just Rothstein throwing crap against a wall to reignite clicks in a topic that hasn't had news in a week. He also mentioned Indiana - who doesn't have an open ride.

He took a visit to Oklahoma and it went poorly. He took a visit to UNI and it went so well he extended by by two days just to hang out with people more. As proof of this he was seen at a restaurant with players 2 days after his official visit. We signed one of his best friends from growing up in Shandon Goldman. He wants to go somewhere he feels welcomed.

Until he shows up in either one of those campuses for an official visit there's no reason to believe anything other than he's UNI bound based in everything I've been told. I was given a % from a connected source that would put him at a high A at landing at UNI.


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Time to get a new source dude.

[VUGrad1314]

According to a twitter post I saw Stull is also considering Butler and Xavier. Is that still true? Also it appears that he is seeking a significant role and a chance to make the tournament. Can we provide both? It's hard to say but if Burton comes back and keeps his eligibility we might be close enough to entice Stull. We certainly have the role to offer.

[FieldGoodie05]

According to a twitter post I saw Stull is also considering Butler and Xavier. Is that still true? Also it appears that he is seeking a significant role and a chance to make the tournament. Can we provide both? It's hard to say but if Burton comes back and keeps his eligibility we might be close enough to entice Stull. We certainly have the role to offer.

Stull should go to MN and see what it's like to compete in the B1G.  Would love to have him play at Valpo, but I say go for it and push yourself.

At this point a pro career in North America does not exist so what does he have to lose?

Sorry to rain on your parade but we enter this season middle of the MVC.  Even if we get lucky and Burton is eligible Top 3 is a stretch goal.

[VUGrad1314]

It's a lot of what ifs but I would darn sure take Evelyn\Stull\Burton\Fazekas\Smits\Golder\McMillan\Freeman-Liberty\Sorolla\Bradford\Sackey against anybody in this conference. That looks pretty safely a top 3-4 team in the MVC if not more.

[VU2014]

FieldGoodie05, so pessimistic. If a couple whistles & breaks go our way in a couple games we'd be finish mid pack in the conference. Not to mention if we don't lose Joe we'd have a chance to win even more of those close games. It's not all doom and gloom as frustrating as last season was.

He'd have a significant role here, which he likely wouldn't at Minnesota but I'm sure the MN coaches will say otherwise. He'd be more then just depth at Valpo. I won't predict we'll win the league next year but if he came to Valpo I'd like our chances to finish Top 5 team, with upside to finish higher.

[FieldGoodie05]

It's a lot of what ifs but I would darn sure take Evelyn\Stull\Burton\Fazekas\Smits\Golder\McMillan\Freeman-Liberty\Sorolla\Bradford\Sackey against anybody in this conference. That looks pretty safely a top 3-4 team in the MVC if not more.

Even with Fazekas as our only serviceable size @ Forward?  To be clear, Mileek would need to improve by the biggest margin year-over-year that any Valpo player has done in recent memory.

I'm excited for this upcoming season if the aforementioned additions are eligible (Stull and Burton) but I'm not pre-season MVC Top 3 voting excited.

Again, would be ecstatic if that lineup dresssed for the brown and gold this fall....just not head in the clouds expectations for me.

[VUGrad1314]

It's a lot of what ifs but I would darn sure take Evelyn\Stull\Burton\Fazekas\Smits\Golder\McMillan\Freeman-Liberty\Sorolla\Bradford\Sackey against anybody in this conference. That looks pretty safely a top 3-4 team in the MVC if not more.

Even with Fazekas as our only serviceable size @ Forward?  To be clear, Mileek would need to improve by the biggest margin year-over-year that any Valpo player has done in recent memory. I'm excited for this upcoming season if the aforementioned additions are eligible (Stull and Burton) but I'm not pre-season MVC Top 3 voting excited. Again, would be ecstatic if that lineup dresssed for the brown and gold this fall....just not head in the clouds expectations for me.

Name the teams you think finish ahead of that team. That's honestly as deep and talented on paper as anything Loyola and Illinois State are putting together. I count 7 or 8 players (even upwards of 9 or 10) that are capable of taking over a game offensively and carrying the team for stretches. If you're concerned by whether that team can defend well enough  maybe there could be some concerns there but nobody is outscoring that team. Nobody.

[wh]

According to a twitter post I saw Stull is also considering Butler and Xavier. Is that still true? Also it appears that he is seeking a significant role and a chance to make the tournament. Can we provide both? It's hard to say but if Burton comes back and keeps his eligibility we might be close enough to entice Stull. We certainly have the role to offer.

Stull should go to MN and see what it's like to compete in the B1G.  Would love to have him play at Valpo, but I say go for it and push yourself.

At this point a pro career in North America does not exist so what does he have to lose?

Sorry to rain on your parade but we enter this season middle of the MVC.  Even if we get lucky and Burton is eligible Top 3 is a stretch goal.

Alec Peters was was in a similar situation 2 years ago when he was considering whether to stay at Valpo or move up. The difference is Alec knew he could start for almost any program he chose. Even then, he decided to stay, had an outstanding senior season, and got drafted in the 2nd round. A great Cinderella story.

Stull is no Alec, or anywhere close. In fact, Tevonn Walker had better numbers than Stull in a much tougher league, and is a far better defender. Is anyone under the illusion that Tevonn would be better off "moving up" if he were in Stull's shoes? 

Stull is being way over hyped. He needs to join the Crusaders and set his sights on helping to return a highly respected mid major to glory by winning a championship in a highly respected league. If he truly has NBA potential, NBA scouts from all over the league will show up at the ARC in droves, just like they did 2 years ago.

[wh]

Steve Helm was a part of the school record breaking 4x400-meter relay team.

https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/995872496904802309
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/996188422363545600

Facial expressions from R-L:

Expressionless, Smile, Grin and:

Multiple Choice -
a. Intense
b. Fatigued
c. Irritated
d. Threatening

[bbtds]

Austin Reaves a Wichita State transfer who looked like he might be headed to UNI as of a few days ago is now also considering Indiana Purdue and Michigan. That can't be good for the Panthers chances. I think it's clear that this kid wants to go P5 and Northern Iowa is just a safety valve. I hope I'm wrong and UNI does get him but this development leaves me less than optimistic.

Those schools were mentioned from the start as landing places. This is just Rothstein throwing crap against a wall to reignite clicks in a topic that hasn't had news in a week. He also mentioned Indiana - who doesn't have an open ride.

He took a visit to Oklahoma and it went poorly. He took a visit to UNI and it went so well he extended by by two days just to hang out with people more. As proof of this he was seen at a restaurant with players 2 days after his official visit. We signed one of his best friends from growing up in Shandon Goldman. He wants to go somewhere he feels welcomed.

Until he shows up in either one of those campuses for an official visit there's no reason to believe anything other than he's UNI bound based in everything I've been told. I was given a % from a connected source that would put him at a high A at landing at UNI.


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Time to get a new source dude.

Must of had a bad restaurant experience. Wow! Bad eggs?