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VU2014

Quote from: EddieCabot on June 25, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: valpotx on June 25, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
Interesting move on his part.  I don't see Utah State as a step up.

USU is paying their new head coach $3.5m over five years, which seems pretty good for a mid-major.  This may have just been a move for more money.

It's that FBS football money, I guess. That's a big contract for a mid-major program. Head Coach contracts are rising across the board in college basketball.

IndyValpo

Quote from: VU2014 on June 25, 2018, 10:57:35 AM
Quote from: valpotx on June 25, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
Interesting move on his part.  I don't see Utah State as a step up.

I don't either but he might have the chance to be a top assistant there and there also might be some upward mobility for promotion that wasn't here with Coach Lottich being a young HC and Coach Gore as the associate HC. Coach Ragland has never been afraid to job hop and get new types of experience. It's served him well in the past. I think he's not too far off from getting a position as a P5 assistant or getting hired as mid-major HC. He was one of the finalists for the Evansville job and I know they wanted him as their associate HC. I wish him and his family well. He certainly had an impact on our program in the short time he was here.
Assistants are like nomads they move around for better pay/exposure. The interesting thing here is the new coach brought two assistants with him from South Dakota. 

VU2014


bbtds

Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball

https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288

This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.

I hope he's not teaching English.

Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball  staff @RHollowayjr  for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall  @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball

https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288

This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.

I hope he's not teaching English.

Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball  staff @RHollowayjr  for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall  @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002


You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball.  Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?


bbtds

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 28, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball

https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288

This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.

I hope he's not teaching English.

Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball  staff @RHollowayjr  for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall  @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002


You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball.  Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?

No! No!

If we accept the deterioration of the English language because we need to attract student athletes then we are defeating the purpose of Valpo as an institution. Educating students must always remain priority number 1. I do think that athletics can be used to further the aims of the University as a scholarly institution. But allowing athletes to lower their expectations because they are skilled in athletics is only for the P5 public universities. Valpo must never fall in that category and coaches must be held to that high standard too. I never meant it as a joke!!!!!!

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: bbtds on June 29, 2018, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 28, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball

https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288

This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.

I hope he's not teaching English.

Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball  staff @RHollowayjr  for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall  @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002


You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball.  Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?

No! No!

If we accept the deterioration of the English language because we need to attract student athletes then we are defeating the purpose of Valpo as an institution. Educating students must always remain priority number 1. I do think that athletics can be used to further the aims of the University as a scholarly institution. But allowing athletes to lower their expectations because they are skilled in athletics is only for the P5 public universities. Valpo must never fall in that category and coaches must be held to that high standard too. I never meant it as a joke!!!!!!

You are holding onto the past sir.  Language adapts and changes and has since the first grunt.  With small gaffes like the ones you ALWAYS point out you do nothing but make us look elitist.  If that's your desire, than bravo.

There's a reason the dictionaries introduce new words every year.  Many of us try to use proper language and participles, but I think it's clear by now that you just like to sound smart and use (admittedly) clever word play.  I enjoy everyone's contributions, but we are a community and my desire is that prospective athletes and fans don't think we are a bunch of elitist fans correcting everyone's grammar.

Language is only a small indicator of the intelligence of a person.  High horse dismounted! 😉

IndyValpo

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 29, 2018, 06:14:55 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 29, 2018, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 28, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 28, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 24, 2018, 08:00:42 AM
https://eiupanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=877&path=mbball

https://mobile.twitter.com/ilheat1974/status/1010717653097484288

This tweet may have identified a new assistant coach.

I hope he's not teaching English.

Thanks too the @ValpoBasketball  staff @RHollowayjr  for having our guys @OrrSpartanBBall  @TujautaeW @ShaunYoungBull @DemariusSplung7 @AnthonyT002


You can act smug in that manner with an exceedingly high % of young players and coaches in basketball.  Probably one of those comments you keep to yourself?

No! No!

If we accept the deterioration of the English language because we need to attract student athletes then we are defeating the purpose of Valpo as an institution. Educating students must always remain priority number 1. I do think that athletics can be used to further the aims of the University as a scholarly institution. But allowing athletes to lower their expectations because they are skilled in athletics is only for the P5 public universities. Valpo must never fall in that category and coaches must be held to that high standard too. I never meant it as a joke!!!!!!

You are holding onto the past sir.  Language adapts and changes and has since the first grunt.  With small gaffes like the ones you ALWAYS point out you do nothing but make us look elitist.  If that's your desire, than bravo.

There's a reason the dictionaries introduce new words every year.  Many of us try to use proper language and participles, but I think it's clear by now that you just like to sound smart and use (admittedly) clever word play.  I enjoy everyone's contributions, but we are a community and my desire is that prospective athletes and fans don't think we are a bunch of elitist fans correcting everyone's grammar.

Language is only a small indicator of the intelligence of a person.  High horse dismounted! 😉
The entire argument is moot as the original tweet was from the coach not a player. 

VU2014

It's important to remember that twitter is a very informal way of communicating. This convo is much to do about nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

VU2014

I'm thinking we'll get the formal announcement about Coach Townsend and Coach Holloway on Monday.

VULB#62

There are other factors that come into play in this particular arena (i.e., social media, and I include this forum in that category) with respect to proper spelling and grammar:

#1 - The need for speed of reply -- In our written dialogue we are not writing for publication (an article or blog) or a grade in school.  We are conversing; we are engaging in discourse and, in many cases, using a minature keyboard with fat fingers.  Sometimes there is time to proofread before sending, but often the dialogue is moving so rapidly that proofing isn't always feasible.

#2 - Spellcheck isn't all it's cracked up to be -- Spellcheck only looks for misspelling, not misuse -- it is too dumb to differentiate between to, too, or two or their, they're or there, if each is spelled correctly and that's the only criterion.

#3 - The #$@!!&* auto-correct feature is a grammar/spelling killer -- Auto-correct thinks it is smarter than it actually is,  sometimes mindlessly substitutes the wrong words as you are typing, and if you are not careful (and proofread) it can make the writer look foolish.

So, while enjoying the back and forth, I am splitting my opinion on this little conversation by allowing for being less dogmatic about electronic discourse while fully supporting the need to maintain high grammar and spelling standards in more formal means of written expression like documents, email, published articles, on-line blogs, letters to the editor, etc.  And yes, sometimes typed errors in electronic discourse can be comical, and good natured ribbing is fun.




JD24

Quote from: IndyValpo on June 29, 2018, 07:18:23 AMThe entire argument is moot as the original tweet was from the coach not a player.
I would hope that the entire point is moot because the grammar police post was tongue in cheek. The "grammatical" error was probably a typo from a phone anyway.

vu72

What the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
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VUGrad1314

This could be because of LeCrone's stupid frivolous lawsuit wasting everyone's time. That and I'm sure our AD has been busy making sure our fall sports schedules are lined up and hasn't had time for the press release. Coaches busy on the recruiting trail figuring out what to do with the last few scholarships etc. That or we're in a world of trouble.

VU2014

#90
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
What the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??

Not sure. Maybe they're just waiting for a "prime" moment for the press release?

Coach Holloway already changed his twitter bio & banner on his twitter profile lol: https://twitter.com/RHollowayjr

VUGrad1314

Could it be Townsend backed out given his and his wife's strong ties to Milwaukee?

VU2014

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 03, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Could it be Townsend backed out given his and his wife's strong ties to Milwaukee?

Nope, he's definitely an assistant on the coaching staff. The Athletic Department just hasn't announced it yet.

VUBBFan


Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.

I'd imagine at least the one coach is hired, else why have your twitter banner say as much!

bbtds

Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2018, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 03, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Could it be Townsend backed out given his and his wife's strong ties to Milwaukee?

Nope, he's definitely an assistant on the coaching staff. The Athletic Department just hasn't announced it yet.
Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.

I can verify through my sources that two assistant coaches have been hired and are working with the team and will be announced soon.

wh

Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-6nH2gF1Do

VUGrad1314

Quote from: VUBBFan on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2018, 01:35:13 PMWhat the heck is going on that we still don't have an announcement on assistants??
I was told the assistants are hired but because of the school break there is no one ( authorized ) around to make the official announcement.

Yet fall sports are announcing their schedules. What gives?

VUGrad1314

Could it be that the new assistants are too busy on recruiting trips to attend a press conference and that's the reason for the delay?

IrishDawg

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 05, 2018, 08:38:14 AM
Could it be that the new assistants are too busy on recruiting trips to attend a press conference and that's the reason for the delay?

Do assistants get press conferences at Valpo?  Sure, maybe at Duke since the head coach avoids talking to the media as much as possible, but most places it's literally just a story put out by the sports information department with a quote or two from the head coach about the assistant, one or two from the assistant about how excited they are to be at the school, and then just where they've been and what they've accomplished in their career thus far.

Not sure why they'd delay the announcement, but the kids they're recruiting know who they're working for, and that's the most important thing.