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GAME #3 - Valpo vs. Truman State 9/22 - 1:00pm CST

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VULB#62

We hung in with YSU for a half. As posters pointed out, with YSU's superior scholarship depth and size, Valpo just wore out. Hope Chris is ok. Agree with JD24 that we will be okay in the trenches once we get to the PFL part of the schedule where depth, size and skill be be more even.

TSU will give us a bit of a measure in that regard after us facing two FCS scholly programs. Truman is D-II, but remember, they give scholarships at that level, and I can remember Carlson and Adams before him lamenting that it was tough to win against those odds. Well, not anymore. We put that in the rear view mirror at William Jewel years ago. This year's team has now experienced the adversity under fire necessary to focus going forward. I am looking for at least 3 TD margin in Valpo's favor. The guys in the trenches on both sides of the ball will deliver that no matter who starts at QB.

I intend to witness our first 2018 win in person.

VULB#62

#1
Saginaw Valley 21 - Truman State 20. TSU (0-3) lost it in the 4th on a go-ahed TD by SVSU. Box score showed that SVSU led in pretty much all major categories, but they did not really dominate any one category except for 4th down conversions. TSU could only manage 90 yards on the ground and their QB got 51 of those (one of his carries was 31 yards).

Game Stats     TSU   SV
Total Yards       236     331
Pass %             15/24    26/42
Net Pass Yards          146     229
Rushes                   29     32   
Net Rushing Yards     90     102
Penalty Yards       8-53     5-53
1st Downs            11    17
3rd Downs         5-13   5-18
4th Downs          0-1   6-7
TOP               27:26   32:34


Not a bad venue for the game in Michigan. Capacity is 6,800.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDcYQl-D5kg

JD24

There's a lot of non Div I scholarship programs which Valpo would not only beat but beat handily. Truman State has played 3 teams I think Valpo would whip pretty easily....as would possibly all PFL teams....and if Valpo doesn't do the same to Truman, it won't be a good sign.

VULB#62

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2018
Davidson 91, Guilford 61       
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2018
Austin Peay 78, Morehead State 40   

Truman State aside, going into this next week of play, what am I missing about what's happening in the PFL?

Mr. Rogers: " Can you say 'zany' boys and girls?"

vu72

Quote from: VULB#62 on September 17, 2018, 09:26:14 AM
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2018
Davidson 91, Guilford 61       
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2018
Austin Peay 78, Morehead State 40   

Truman State aside, going into this next week of play, what am I missing about what's happening in the PFL?

Mr. Rogers: " Can you say 'zany' boys and girls?"


Just another defensive battle!  ::)
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valpofb16

#5
Alright Offense going into Truman

Quarterback
#9 Jimmy Seewald 6-5 220 JR. (0/0) (Missed last two games Shoulder Injury)
#14 Chris Duncan 6-4 195 RSSO. (2/2)
#11 Trey Bilinski 6-2 230 RSFR. (0/1) (Debuted last week vs. YSU)
#4 Joe Mullen 6-4 200 RSJR. (0/0)
#5 Ben Nimz 6-3 190 FR. (0/0)

Runningback
#44 Kyle Cartales 6-1 205 JR. (2/2)
#32 Cody Boxrucker 6-0 215 JR. (0/1) (Missed last game unknown injury)

#26 Anthony Maceo 5-9 170 FR. (0/1) (Debuted last week vs. YSU)
#21 Elias Earley 5-7 175 RSJR. (0/1)
#15 Doug Haugh 6-1 205 RSFR. (0/1) (Debuted last week vs. YSU)
#25 Riley Allison 5-10 205 FR. (0/0)
#20 Cameron Raupach 5-10 175. FR (0/0)


H-Back
#40 Brannen Martin 6-1 245 RSSO. (2/2)

Tight End
#84 Mason Sutter 6-5 210 SR. (2/2)
#80 Brett Bittner 6-5 225 RSFR. (0/2)
#31 Alex Kluck 6-5 240 RSFR. (0/1) (Debuted last week vs. YSU)
#45 Spencer Locke 6-1 230 RSFR. (0/0)


WR1
#2 Griffin Norberg 6-2 230 SR. (2/2)
#3 Parker Fox 5-11 175 RSJR. (0/2)
#13 Ryan Markoff 6-2 200 RSFR. (0/2) (Wildcat QB Practices with WR)
#85 Patrick McNerney 6-3 200 FR. (0/0)


WR2
#12 JD Koehler 6-1 200 RSJR. (1/2)
#17 Deuce Larose 6-0 205 SO. (1/2)
#6 Ollie Reese 6-2 185 FR. (0/1)
#81 Kenny Brewer 6-1 175 FR. (0/0)


Slot
#1 Jean Rene SR. 5-10 185 SR. (2/2)
#23 Bailey Gessinger 5-10 160 JR. (0/2)
#7 Trey Stablein 5-11 165 RSFR. (0/1) (Debuted last week vs. YSU)
#33 Conor Beer 5-10 170 RSFR. (0/0)


Left Tackle
#60 Andrew Lundberg 6-6 270 RSJR. (2/2)
#64 Bryce Biggs 6-4 300 RSSO. (0/1)
#76 Alex Cotton 6-4 275 RSJR. (0/0)
#79 Thomas Walsh 6-3 310 RSFR. (0/0)
#62 Jordan Adkins 6-3 240 FR. (0/0)
#61 Adam Meyer 6-4 205 FR. (0/0)


Left Guard
#67 Eric Rentschler 6-2 295 SR. (2/2)
#66 Sam Vas 6-1 305 SO. (0/2)
#50 John Horan 6-2 315 RSJR. (0/0)
#68 Aaron Byrd 6-1 285 FR. (0/0)

Center
#65 Jack Jarnigan 6-2 300 RSJR. (2/2)
#70 Brady Sullivan 6-4 290 RSJR. (0/0)
#69 Alex Helander 6-1 255 RSJR. (0/0)

#53 Riley Edgerton 6-3 250 FR. (0/0)

Right Guard
#73 Tom Schofield 6-3 270 SR.(2/2)
#72 Solomon Kamara 6-2 285 RSSO. (0/1)
#63 Braden Russell 6-3 285 FR. (0/0)
#71 Brendan O'Doherty 6'1 275 FR. (0/0)


Right Tackle
#75 Shannon Taliaferro 6-2 310 SR. (2/2)
#77 Terrence Roberts 6-5 315 RSJR. (0/2)
#74 James Zajac 6-6 285 RSSO. (0/0)
#55 Peyton Breese 6-3 250 FR. (0/0)
#51 David Drs 6-3 225 FR. (0/0)

VULB#62

Long range weather forecast for the game [click to enlarge].  Should be a pretty good day for the home opener.  Not too hot or humid and clear with minimal winds.

VULB#62

#7
TSU was a preseason coaches pick at #4 in the GLVC.  Indianapolis was #1 and McKendry and Missouri S&T were tied for 2nd.  By way of comparison: Drake beat Missouri S&T last weekend 52-12.  The Drake QB threw 6 TDs and piled up 452 yards on 22 of 27 attempts.  Incidentally, Drake ran for a net of 13 yards on 35 rushes.

JD24

Quote from: VULB#62 on September 18, 2018, 09:54:08 AMTSU was a preseason coaches pick at #4 in the GLVC.  Indianapolis was #1 and McKendry and Missouri S&T were tied for 2nd.  by way of comparison: Drake beat Missouri S&T last weekend 52-12.  The Drake QB threw 6 TDs and piled up 452 yards on 22 of 27 attempts.  Incidentally, Drake ran for a net of 13 yards on 35 rushes.
MST beat Truman last season fairly handily (two scores) while Truman beat McKendree for whatever that is worth. On paper I can't see Truman being all that competitive with Valpo.

VULB#62

#9
Margin should be at least 3 TDs don'tcha think?  Especially when you factor in the Valpo passing attack even if a 'rusty' Seewald starts.

I also went into some Drake detail that I ordinarily wouldn't do for our back pocket when they come to town 10/27.

Here are the TSU Game Notes: http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18432/home-opener-set-for-saturday-at-brown-field/

BREAKING:  QB depth lists either Jimmy "or" Trey Bilinsky.  No mention of Chris.  Concussion protocol???  Also looks like Boxrucker is being held out (again).

JD24

#10
Duncan went into Saturday's game with an injured knee and aggravated it in the 4th quarter. In addition to Boxrucker not being on the 2 deep and injured, Larose is not listed on the two deep. He, frankly, hasn't shown much thus far although he could be hurt. He took a shot in the 4th quarter.

If Valpo's down QB1 and QB2 our expectations probably need to be adjusted accordingly.

vu72

Quote from: JD24 on September 18, 2018, 02:01:24 PM
Duncan went into Saturday's game with an injured knee and aggravated it in the 4th quarter. In addition to Boxrucker not being on the 2 deep and injured, Larose is not listed on the two deep. He, frankly, hasn't shown much thus far although he could be hurt. He took a shot in the 4th quarter.

If Valpo's down QB1 and QB2 our expectations probably need to be adjusted accordingly.

All of a sudden we have two true freshman on the 2 deeps.
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covufan


usc4valpo

Correct me if I am off, but isn't Truman State a decent academic school?

JD24

Quote from: usc4valpo on September 18, 2018, 04:22:51 PMCorrect me if I am off, but isn't Truman State a decent academic school?
Yes and, in case of a tie after regulation instead of the ridiculous college tie-breaker on the field, the teams will retreat to Gellersen for a Math off.

valpofb16


VULB#62

Here's the video preview.  Dave seems to position TSU as more snake-bit than weak.  Took SVSU converting 5 4th and shorts in a row to score two TDs to come from behind and win. He is still mentioning Jimmy as "we'll see."  Said nice things about Bilinsky and mentioned the need to run the ball better. The one clip that was shown during the interview was of Norberg's catch and run.  After the catch, he literally outran the YSU DBs and was gaining space with every stride.  Pretty impressive. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15yGkOBzo24

JD24

#17
Part of Dave's job is to pump up the opposition prior to the game publicly. Drake just drubbed a team from the same conference and that team is considered better than Truman. TSU and SVSU were pretty even last season and the game they played last week reflected similar comparison this season. A Valpo romp should be expected which, of course, Dave can't say. So I wouldn't take what he's saying about TSU very seriously. Last year it was all about the fear of the triple option vs Trinity Baptist which was unfounded.

Playing with a 3rd string QB, if that ends up being the case, could change things but I would expect Valpo should be able to run the ball well enough and play defense well enough to make it a lower scoring non-competitive game. Further to that, if they can't then we and they have no business even discussing being competitive in all of their PFL games during this year's conference schedule.

VULB#62

Sitting at the 45 and not that impressed with us. Up 7-6 at the half. And just gave up a bomb TSU now up 14-7. Seewald looks rusty. L

78crusader


covufan

Quote from: 78crusader on September 22, 2018, 03:19:27 PM
The season feels like it is on the brink

Paul
Probably not on the brink, but definitely not the same team that had a chance to win at Duquesne.


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covufan

Ouch!  That KO return put things towards the brink.

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usc4valpo

Truman state obviously was very successful in wearing out the Valpo defense with their running game.

VUGrad1314

This is very sad and disheartening. Just as excitement and optimism were beginning to build for the program. Hopefully the program is able to gather itself move on from this and recapture the momentum it had before this game.