Javon Freeman Liberty

[tiny707]

He is good. Needs his own thread like Bryce, Ryan, and Alec have.

[vufan75]

He is good. Needs his own thread like Bryce, Ryan, and Alec have.

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[M]

  pump the brakes
Little doubt he gets there, but these guys are all timers who got their own threads when they went pro.

[Smj]

This kid is talented and i'm thinking we will see him in the top ten lists for a few different statistics.

Go V.U. !!!

[wh]

pump the brakes
Little doubt he gets there, but these guys are all timers who got their own threads when they went pro.

I don't recall if Alec had his own thread as a freshman, but he definitely had an "Alec Peters Sophomore Edition" thread (and Junior, Senior editions).

[M]

You are correct, my apologies

[valpolaw]

I wonder how Javon's freshmen stats compare so far to Bryce's and Alec's freshmen stats

[M]

Alec was just under 13ppg playing 29 mpg.  I didn't look for Bryce's numbers.

[VU2014]

I wonder how Javon's freshmen stats compare so far to Bryce's and Alec's freshmen stats

Javon Freeman: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html
Alec Peters: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/alec-peters-1.html
Ryan Broekhoff: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ryan-broekhoff-1.html
Bryce Drew: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/bryce-drew-1.html

[VUBBFan]

https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1091809954359582720

[bbtds]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

[wh]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

False premise
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[justducky]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

False premise
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I am in total agreement with bdtbs.

[vu72]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

False premise
A false premise is an incorrect proposition that forms the basis of an argument or syllogism. Since the premise is not correct, the conclusion drawn may be in error.

I am in total agreement with bdtbs.

[FWalum]

At this point Javon, playing about 4.5 minutes more per game, has slightly better stats than Tevonn had his freshman year. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tevonn-walker-1.html

[VU2014]

At this point Javon, playing about 4.5 minutes more per game, has slightly better stats than Tevonn had his freshman year. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tevonn-walker-1.html

I think Tevonn is a better comp for Javon, because of positions. Javon has well exceeded expectations for me personally. He's only going to get better

[wh]

Far and away, the 3 best Freshmen in the MVC statistically are Javon, Green from N. Iowa, and Wilkins from Drake (hope I'm not forgetting anyone).  Right now, Javon is the clear statistical leader over either of the other 2 and would be the shoe-in Freshman-of-the-Year if conference play ended today (assuming an honest process and voters with integrity, of course).   

Javon is ranked 1st (best) in 6 of 10 statistical categories:    Rebounds, FG%, Blocks, Steals, Fouls, TO's
Green is ranked 1st  (best) in 2 of 10 statistical categories:   Points and FT%
Wilkins is ranked 1st (best) in 2 of 10 statistical categories:  Assists, 3FG%

By the way, Javon is 2nd in PPG with 11.0.  Green is averaging 15.0 and Wilkins 10.8.  I note that because it's about as deep as some people think (not on this board) when comparing players. 

[EddieCabot]

Far and away, the 3 best Freshmen in the MVC statistically are Javon, Green from N. Iowa, and Wilkins from Drake (hope I'm not forgetting anyone).  Right now, Javon is the clear statistical leader over either of the other 2 and would be the shoe-in Freshman-of-the-Year if conference play ended today (assuming an honest process and voters with integrity, of course).   

Javon is ranked 1st (best) in 6 of 10 statistical categories:    Rebounds, FG%, Blocks, Steals, Fouls, TO's
Green is ranked 1st  (best) in 2 of 10 statistical categories:   Points and FT%
Wilkins is ranked 1st (best) in 2 of 10 statistical categories:  Assists, 3FG%

By the way, Javon is 2nd in PPG with 11.0.  Green is averaging 15.0 and Wilkins 10.8.  I note that because it's about as deep as some people think (not on this board) when comparing players.

Good points made.  Javon is a game changer with his defense, especially with steals that often lead to easy baskets for him or others.  Also, number of fouls committed is often overlooked in these types of comparisons.

[justducky]

More details from the MVC statistical leader board.

Freeman leads the conference in steals with 42 and is pulling away from the competition. Green with 13.
He is 20'th in rebounds at 4.5 per game. Green 45'th at 3 per.
FG% Green 40% Freeman 47.4%          3 point%  Green 33.8 Freeman 30.4%
A/T Freeman 53-37 for 1.432.  Green 50-67 for 0.746  That is a BAD number for any guard, anywhere!  For context Lavender is still 3'rd in the league at 2.12. Bakari has been sloppy but still shows a 1.239 and Krutwig has an astonishing 1.318.    Our bigs are likely both below 0.50. 

So 29 more steals---30 fewer turn overs with 3 more assists--- and 1.5 more rebounds per game. Wow!!!!! That is a lot of extra possessions.

[FieldGoodie05]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

Have you ever considered tabulating the number of hours and or calories you've wasted by correcting grammar or spelling in your life?  That being said, I'm looking forward to you correcting me for years to come 🍻🍻🍻

[wh]

Here's another category I should have included that clearly shows that Javon is far more versatile offensively than the other 2 guards:

2-pt. FG Pct.
78 of 140 .557 Javon
74 of 161 .460 Green
34 of 90 .378 Wilkins

•Green has 4 fewer baskets in 21 more attempts.
•Wilkins 2-pt. percentage is really bad. At .378, it would take 206 shots to match what Javon did in 140 attempts. Essentially, Wilkins is a 3-point specialist.
•Javon's 2-pt. pct. is so good that he may be the most proficient guard in the league inside the 3-pt. line.

[bbtds]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

Have you ever considered tabulating the number of hours and or calories you've wasted by correcting grammar or spelling in your life?  That being said, I'm looking forward to you correcting me for years to come 🍻🍻🍻

It's become obvious that spelling our players names and people's names in general correctly on this board is not popular and it does no good to provoke the angry mob. I will no longer speak to the spelling on this board.

[JD24]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

Have you ever considered tabulating the number of hours and or calories you've wasted by correcting grammar or spelling in your life?  That being said, I'm looking forward to you correcting me for years to come 🍻🍻🍻

It's become obvious that spelling our players names and people's names in general correctly on this board is not popular and it does no good to provoke the angry mob. I will no longer speak to the spelling on this board.

Is there a board where grammatical and spelling corrections are popular? If so, I need to take a look at it because that is most assuredly a "fun" crowd.

[bbtds]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

Have you ever considered tabulating the number of hours and or calories you've wasted by correcting grammar or spelling in your life?  That being said, I'm looking forward to you correcting me for years to come 🍻🍻🍻

It's become obvious that spelling our players names and people's names in general correctly on this board is not popular and it does no good to provoke the angry mob. I will no longer speak to the spelling on this board.

Is there a board where grammatical and spelling corrections are popular? If so, I need to take a look at it because that is most assuredly a "fun" crowd.

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[FWalum]

It is extremely interesting how you guys are willing to quibble over whether a player should be "honored" enough to get his own thread but at the same time can't be bothered enough to "honor" the same player by spelling his name correctly.

Have you ever considered tabulating the number of hours and or calories you've wasted by correcting grammar or spelling in your life?  That being said, I'm looking forward to you correcting me for years to come 🍻🍻🍻

It's become obvious that spelling our players names and people's names in general correctly on this board is not popular and it does no good to provoke the angry mob. I will no longer speak to the spelling on this board.

Is there a board where grammatical and spelling corrections are popular? If so, I need to take a look at it because that is most assuredly a "fun" crowd.

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Absolutely priceless.