Transfers

[EddieCabot]

So, it's been all quiet on the transfer front for almost 2 weeks ... is it safe to assume that no one else is leaving?  I sure hope that's the case.  Also, has anyone heard whether Markus has made a decision yet? 

[crusader05]

I haven't heard anything outside of people posting on this board. Markus definitely seemed less "i'm leaving for sure" than the others and more of a "i'm looking into it/seeing what's out there" but I'm going to assume he's gone just for my state of mind.
I'd think that this week we will start seeing more movement so I think if we don't have at least one announcement then i'm gonna get nervous.

[VU2014]

I think Markus is gone. I don't know anything but it's just a gut feeling.

[bbtds]

Anymore updates on Markus' transfer. I'm afraid we'll be a bit browner and a little less Golder next season but I don't want us to be.

Be interesting if we got a transfer named Brown or Browner.

[valpo84]

Based on the Tournament schedule, if there is not any announcements by Wednesday, probably will be quiet until Tuesday. Folks will be heading to Atlanta for the Final 4 and the annual coaches meetings that are contemporaneous with the Final Four. 

[vu72]

Based on the Tournament schedule, if there is not any announcements by Wednesday, probably will be quiet until Tuesday. Folks will be heading to Atlanta for the Final 4 and the annual coaches meetings that are contemporaneous with the Final Four. 

If so they will be pretty lonely.  The Final Four is in Minneapolis!

As a side note, I just checked Verbal Commits and found that there are currently 585 D1 transfers.  I believe there are 341 D1 programs who have 13 scholarships each.  That makes 4,433 scholarship players.  Assuming further that 20% graduated, that would leave 3,546 underclassmen eligible for transfer. So, at the present then, approximately 17% of those folks are on the market...and the number increases daily. Scary stuff but should leave us with plenty of players to chose from who actually want to play for Valpo!

[VUBBFan]

My thought on Markus is that he is looking to transfer to a west coast team to be closer to his home town of Portland. If he can't find that perfect spot he's left the door open to return to VU.

However with his abilities and talent he show cased at Valpo, he should not have too much trouble getting some interest from schools out there. So I don't really see him coming back next year. I wish he would stay because he was so much fun to watch, but at this point I'm resigned to see him leave

[vu72]

Just saw that Tim Finke is transferring from Grand Canyon.  I think we were recruiting him out of Champaign Illinois.  He played for Alec's old team, Illinois Irish. 6'6" 4*!!!

[valpo84]

Good catch 72, a year ahead in my mind...

[EddieCabot]

Just saw that Tim Finke is transferring from Grand Canyon.  I think we were recruiting him out of Champaign Illinois.  He played for Alec's old team, Illinois Irish. 6'6" 4*!!!

I looked back and can't find any evidence that Valpo offered him during his original recruitment, however, I've read that he's "wide open" in terms of where he might be heading next.  247 Sports had him ranked #8 in Illinois for the 2018 recruiting class, 2 spots behind Javon.

[crusader05]

I don't think they offered him but I think Drew went to go see him play a few times at least.

[valpo84]

Pretty good list of offers for Finke if accurate.... http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/216556/tim-finke

Also, 14 discussed him in the Recruiting 2018 discussion -- https://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2221.200  Apparently from that he played for meanstreets with Javon... hmmm.  Northwestern?  Last year, NW was also looking at Talen Horton-Tucker (NBA bound?). https://www.insidenu.com/2017/4/24/15404876/northwestern-basketball-recruiting-update-cormac-ryan-lead-ayo-dosunmu-talen-horton-tucker-tim-finke

[IndyValpo]

Just saw that Tim Finke is transferring from Grand Canyon.  I think we were recruiting him out of Champaign Illinois.  He played for Alec's old team, Illinois Irish. 6'6" 4*!!!

He just couldn't hit shots last year or he would have played a lot more than he did.

[VU2014]

Just saw that Tim Finke is transferring from Grand Canyon.  I think we were recruiting him out of Champaign Illinois.  He played for Alec's old team, Illinois Irish. 6'6" 4*!!!

I can't wait to read Paul's future article titled, "Is Finke the next Peters?"  sorry Paul

[vu72]

The Valpo staff task of filling four slots seems daunting and maybe more so with the loss of Javon and Derrik.  But, it is the way things are across D1 and could be a lot worse.  Someone mentioned UMKC and there wholesale exits.  Northwestern lost 3 plus 3 to graduation.  Kent State lost 3 plus 4 to graduation.  Even Butler lost 2 and 2 more to graduation. 

Perhaps misery love company.  In any event, given the vast number of potential players to fill our openings, I am hopeful.  Will be more so when we get the first name...

[wh]

The Valpo staff task of filling four slots seems daunting and maybe more so with the loss of Javon and Derrik.  But, it is the way things are across D1 and could be a lot worse.  Someone mentioned UMKC and there wholesale exits.  Northwestern lost 3 plus 3 to graduation.  Kent State lost 3 plus 4 to graduation.  Even Butler lost 2 and 2 more to graduation. 

Perhaps misery love company.  In any event, given the vast number of potential players to fill our openings, I am hopeful.  Will be more so when we get the first name...

Over the years, I've inherited people with attitude problems who would have been doing me a big favor by "looking for greener pastures."  It could well be that that's how Matt is feeling right now, Freeman not withstanding. There are worse things sometimes than bringing in new blood. As Jim Collins says in Good to Great, the first thing an organization has to do to make a major step change is get the wrong people off the bus, and get the right people on the bus.

[valpopal]

Drake picks up a 6'10" grad transfer:
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[vufan75]

One player on this list has some interest in Valpo. Saw this on Google today regarding Indian Hills juco transfers. Tweet below by Matthew Bain.

"Also on the topic of Indian Hills transfers ... I talked with coach Hank Plona earlier today for the latest on his players. These lists aren't final, but here are schools some of his top unsigned guys are considering right now:" https://t.co/P1ra9gVMvA

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[VU2014]

One player on this list has some interest in Valpo. Saw this on Google today regarding Indian Hills juco transfers. Tweet below by Matthew Bain.

"Also on the topic of Indian Hills transfers ... I talked with coach Hank Plona earlier today for the latest on his players. These lists aren't final, but here are schools some of his top unsigned guys are considering right now:" https://t.co/P1ra9gVMvA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_X-W9RRMPQ

[vufan75]

Torrey Patton appears to have went to Indian Hills from Akron. His Indian Hills roster page and his stats are below.
Appears to be a good scorer and rebounder,  but his 3-point shooting % needs to improve.

https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/bios/patton_torrey_144d

[FieldGoodie05]

One player on this list has some interest in Valpo. Saw this on Google today regarding Indian Hills juco transfers. Tweet below by Matthew Bain.

"Also on the topic of Indian Hills transfers ... I talked with coach Hank Plona earlier today for the latest on his players. These lists aren't final, but here are schools some of his top unsigned guys are considering right now:" https://t.co/P1ra9gVMvA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_X-W9RRMPQ

3 point = 26.8%???  Yowza

http://www.indianhillsathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/bios/patton_torrey_144d

[VU2014]

One player on this list has some interest in Valpo. Saw this on Google today regarding Indian Hills juco transfers. Tweet below by Matthew Bain.

"Also on the topic of Indian Hills transfers ... I talked with coach Hank Plona earlier today for the latest on his players. These lists aren't final, but here are schools some of his top unsigned guys are considering right now:" https://t.co/P1ra9gVMvA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_X-W9RRMPQ

3 point = 26.8%???  Yowza

http://www.indianhillsathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/bios/patton_torrey_144d

Yeah his shooting mechanics aren't pretty or consistent. He has some nice tools and looks like he's skilled around the rim but for the love of God we need shooters. Maybe they think they can fix it but he's going to be a junior so I don't feel confident that he'll magically become a good shooter within the next 2 seasons.

[FWalum]

Interesting story about the changing relationship between coaches and players. Coaches afraid of their players

[Just Sayin]

Interesting story about the changing relationship between coaches and players. Coaches afraid of their players

The pussification of coaches, ADs, and the administration. Political correctness and lack of intestinal fortitude has made wusses out of some college basketball coaches. And the entitlement mentality that has been fostered because of this cowardice has enabled a growing number of young people to think they are owed something. This is a nationwide trend found in elementary, junior high, and high schools as well as in colleges and universities. It's quite disgusting to observe how little respect for authority so many young people have. But these are the fruits of liberalism.

[vu84v2]

Interesting story about the changing relationship between coaches and players. Coaches afraid of their players

Interesting article and I agree that coaches have to be more careful in order to retain players (or even keep them engaged in the team concept).

I would argue, however, that some kids questioned coach's tactics of yelling at or degrading players many years ago. In one instance, I knew a guy in high school in the late 1970s who was a top basketball player in Illinois. Great guy, 4.0 student, was second or third team All-state, team went to state quarterfinals his senior year. He was a tough defender and always played hard. He had a recruiting visit to Indiana and you would think that he would be the ideal player for Bob Knight. He came back and said, "why would I put up with that?" He ended up playing four years at Michigan, where he was always in the rotation, but seldom started.