Transfers

[VULB#62]

Huh?  Grad transfer, right?  No brainer, right?  Almost automatic, right?  Someone at PSU asleep at the switch?

Even if his waiver didn't show up till hours before, shouldn't he have been in game shape from practicing all summer and participating in preseason practices while waiting?  Could it be that he is actually #7 or #8 there?

Hmmm.  Those were all questions. Didn't realize it until I reread what I was going to post. Even so, I wonder  if they are valid (that's a statement, not a question  ).

[FWalum]

Marcus had surgery on June 5th to repair the ankle he injured last season. I am sure that would have an affect on early playing time. There was also some talk on Twitter about VU and a graduation issue that was not really explained.

[talksalot]

#4 Bakari Evelyn... and to also give a little preview of game #3... the Iowa box score on their 87-60 win over SIUE

https://hawkeyesports.com/documents/2019/11/8//SIUE_IOWA.pdf

5pts (one three pointer and 2-FTs, a rebound, an assist and a turnover in 15 minutes... third player off the bench.

SIUE had 11 players with between 17 and 23 minutes of playing time...and all of those 11 were negative in the efficiency +/-

[M]

I think Golders team is back in state prepping to get pounded by IU.

[VULB#62]

Marcus had surgery on June 5th to repair the ankle he injured last season. I am sure that would have an affect on early playing time. There was also some talk on Twitter about VU and a graduation issue that was not really explained.

OK, that explains the minutes and results. Given the standard post-surgery recovery time plus carefully transitioning back to his usual style of play, he, indeed,  must be playing his way back onto game shape. Always enjoyed the kid's enthusiasm and athleticism. BTW, I checked his Twitter feed yesterday and noticed he posted a shout out to VUBB on the Toledo win.

[vusupporter]

Marten Linssen had 10 points for UNCW as they hosted North Carolina last night.

[wh]

Marten Linssen had 10 points for UNCW as they hosted North Carolina last night.

I'm not surprised. Even as a raw Freshman, he was way more active around the rim than either Smits or Sorolla. I predict he will be a very good mid major player by his senior year, if not before.

[SanityLost17]

I bet JFL is breathing a sigh of relief today...  RIP Northwestern. 

[justducky]

Flipping around on ESPN briefly watched Middle Tennessee- Lipscomb. Spotted Parker Hazen right away. Playing some back up center he has 4 rebounds at halftime. Looks to be playing good defense. I certainly wish him the best. 

[VUGrad1314]

Remember Tate Hall who we were in on when he transferred from U Indy? Well feast your eyes on these numbers. This kid is good.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4289536/tate-hall

Second leading scorer on Loyola

Second leading rebounder

Leading 3 PT shooter

Leads team in Steals.

[vuny98]

With the news that Sorolla was leaving Cincinnati, I thought I'd take a look to see how the transfers from last year are doing on their new teams (This year top row, last year at Valpo second row).

Sorolla - Cincinnati

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
15   10.9   58.3   0.0   61.5   2.4   0.6   0.1   0.1   1.0   0.5   3.3
27   17.5   51.1   100.  61.5   3.1   0.5   1.3   0.4   2.4   1.0   4.1

Smits - Butler

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
12   11.1   53.3   0.0   76.5   2.0   0.6   0.1   0.1   1.8   1.0   3.8
32   21.8   59.4   0.0   61.3   5.7   0.8   1.0   0.4   3.0   2.0   12.2

Golder - Portland State

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
23   17.4   43.7   28.0   72.2   3.3   0.5   0.5   0.7   2.2   1.2   6.0
31   25.0   43.0   29.8   75.0   3.8   0.9   0.2   0.8   1.6   1.1   9.2

Evelyn - Iowa

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
22   16.0   26.9   27.0   81.8   1.4   1.8   0.0   0.4   1.6   1.2   2.1
32   28.7   33.6   30.6   76.9   2.4   2.1   0.1   0.6   1.9   2.0   8.4

Bradford - Southern

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
22   24.6   36.1   32.9   74.2   2.0   3.5   0.0   0.9   2.7   2.0   8.6
1    3.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   1.0   0.0
31   16.4   34.2   27.5   49.0   1.5   2.2   0.1   0.7   1.9   1.2   5.1

[VUGrad1314]

Quick! Make Kiser a walk on again and grab Sorolla for the stretch run! (Kidding You made your bed Jay Sleep in it)

[justducky]

With the news that Sorolla was leaving Cincinnati, I thought I'd take a look to see how the transfers from last year are doing on their new teams (This year top row, last year at Valpo second row).

Sorolla - Cincinnati

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
15   10.9   58.3   0.0   61.5   2.4   0.6   0.1   0.1   1.0   0.5   3.3
27   17.5   51.1   100.  61.5   3.1   0.5   1.3   0.4   2.4   1.0   4.1

Smits - Butler

GP   MIN   FG%   3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
12   11.1   53.3   0.0   76.5   2.0   0.6   0.1   0.1   1.8   1.0   3.8
32   21.8   59.4   0.0   61.3   5.7   0.8   1.0   0.4   3.0   2.0   12.2

Looked up the final numbers for Derrik and I believe he was injured for a while. Anyway he appeared in only 17 games for a total of 164 minutes played. 53 total points, 29 RBs, 8 assists, 17 TOs, 1 steal and 4 blocks. Certainly not the season he or we would have wished for him.

And yes, I have forgiven him for jumping ship.

[VUGrad1314]

Who cares? We're clearly better off without him. I hope he does well in his future endeavors but it's clear that the transfer was bad for him and terrific for us.

[valpospartan]

Just Ducky said:
And yes, I have forgiven him for jumping ship.

So DS finally jumped.

[SanityLost17]

In some alternate universe our senior bigs stayed and we never got Krikke on scholarship and McMillan never got enough playing time to improve (which he did improve...A LOT...although he has a ways to go).  Sorolla/Smits leaving was huge as I think Krikke is going to be great and McMillan will have a very solid senior season.

[VUGrad1314]

Valpo won that offseason by hundreds of miles. It's totally clear now. We should be thankful each and every one of them left. The only one we needed to stay was JFL and he did. Now he's the most integral part of our team going forward and we have one of the brightest futures of any team in the country. I am excited and everyone else should be too! Go Valpo! I BELIEVE!

[VU2014]

Is Nick Robinson for sure transferring? He has an extra year of eligibility but with all the mid season drama, I'm wondering if he was confirmed transferring or not? He's a Dad now so I'm not sure if he wants to start working as soon as possible. But I'd certainly welcome him back. At first I took Nick's side 100% but I see both sides position in hindsight. Valpo was playing covid hot spots every week and you can't have guys practicing and not playing because it steals the focus of the team and you need continuity especially for that team at that point in the season and they did play a lot better when when they were out of quarantines and able to finally practice. But I 100% support Nick's decision to sit out the rest of the season because of the health concerns for his son and partner. It's quite admirable. I just wish everything could have been kept in house and not aired any business to the public. Nick didn't quit on the Team and Coach Lottich didn't quit on the Nick. He helped set him up in a safer apartment for him and his apartment when his Son was born. Just a tough situation.

I'd love to see Nick back but reading the tea leaves I'm not sure that's possible. I think it would really benefit Nick by getting another year to show scouts his talent and be a senior leader with Zion on the Team. Do players only get an extra year of eligibility with their current Teams? Anyone know?

[crusader05]

I believe I saw a tweet earlier that Nick had entered the Transfer Portal. That letter felt like he had cut ties with the program to me but nothings permanent until it's official, I guess.

[elephtheria47]

Yes you only get the extra year with your current team.

Tons of players in the portal already. Going to be wild.

[VU2014]

I believe I saw a tweet earlier that Nick had entered the Transfer Portal. That letter felt like he had cut ties with the program to me but nothings permanent until it's official, I guess.

Yep you are correct. Nick has left the program officially. If this was his last year of eligibility, how would he get an additional year if not with Valpo? Maybe he didn't play enough game(?) but I thought that only applies to injuries.

https://twitter.com/jakelieberman2/status/1360347265471139840?s=21

Elephtheria47,

Yes agree it's going to be a wild offseason for transfers. I'n hoping Valpo doesn't get bit with the transfer bug again. Valpo fans have some scar tissue.

I'm bracing myself for transfers because we've been burned before. The best way of building a program at the Mid-Major level is obviously having talent but then keeping that young talent together until they are Seniors in order to build chemistry and learn/grow together. We have the young talent and more on the way, but will they stay and grow together? That's the important thing.

Yes you only get the extra year with your current team.

Tons of players in the portal already. Going to be wild.

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1369002996311470080?s=21

[vusupporter]

Everyone gets the extra year, regardless of whether they transfer or not. If they stay at the same school for their extra year, their scholarship does not count against the 13-scholarship limit. If they transfer, they still get the extra year, but their scholarship will count against their new school's limit of 13.

[crusader05]

So just to clarify. Nick's transferring doesn't open up another spot for us to recruit right? In order for us to have another spot it would need to be someone who wasn't a senior already?

[wh]

So just to clarify. Nick's transferring doesn't open up another spot for us to recruit right? In order for us to have another spot it would need to be someone who wasn't a senior already?

I believe that's correct. We have 9 returning scholarship players and 4 freshman recruits that have signed LOI's for a total of 13. Unless someone transfers out, every player in their final year of eligilibility that returns under the COVID exception adds to our 13. That said, increasing scholarships above 13 only applies to this year. For example, Daniel will be a senior next year. If he decides to return for a 5th season under the COVID exception, he will have to fill 1 of our 13 total scholarships.

[vuny98]

So just to clarify. Nick's transferring doesn't open up another spot for us to recruit right? In order for us to have another spot it would need to be someone who wasn't a senior already?

I believe that's correct. We have 9 returning scholarship players and 4 freshman recruits that have signed LOI's for a total of 13. Unless someone transfers out, every player in their final year of eligilibility that returns under the COVID exception adds to our 13. That said, increasing scholarships above 13 only applies to this year. For example, Daniel will be a senior next year. If he decides to return for a 5th season under the COVID exception, he will have to fill 1 of our 13 total scholarships.

This is going to cause such a mess for the next four years...