Transfers

[valpo64]

I forgot that both of those coaches left which does somewhat change the situation.  However, I still believe those scenarios are ridiculous.  Are you serious?  Almost the entire team wants to leave!  Sorry, I don't get it.

[JD24]

I forgot that both of those coaches left which does somewhat change the situation.  However, I still believe those scenarios are ridiculous.  Are you serious?  Almost the entire team wants to leave!  Sorry, I don't get it.

Maybe the players didn't get why the coach is leaving?

[vuny98]

2018 PF Patrick Cartier (6-8, 220, 2★) has received an offer from Valparaiso.

Played at D2 Hillsdale. Was a D2 All American. Also received offer from Toledo.

[David81]

For me, this is another story about how awful this transfer portal has become: Three of St. Peter's leading players from their wondrous Elite 8 run have entered the portal, days after their coach jumped to Seton Hall.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/saint-peters-basketball-trio-enters-152402504.html

OK, so I get a coach returning to his alma mater, assuming that was a dream job all along. As for the players, however, how do you just ditch the school that brought you together for one of the most memorable Cinderella stories in NCAA history?

[David81]

2018 PF Patrick Cartier (6-8, 220, 2★) has received an offer from Valparaiso.

Played at D2 Hillsdale. Was a D2 All American. Also received offer from Toledo.

Wondering...does he get an extra COVID season too? (He already played 3 years + RS year at Hillsdale.)

Also wondering if this confirms concerns about Kithier's health.

[Chitwood]

I completely understand it. Let's be honest, St. Peter's is not going to be as good next year, so why not leave and improve your situation? If you have the opportunity to go to Seton Hall with your old coach or even just go to a more competitive team (or a better school academically), you might as well take advantage of the situation. They are still going to be legends at St. Peter's even if they leave.

Think of it like a regular job. If you're an accountant at a small firm in the middle of nowhere, even if your boss was nice, wouldn't you leave to go to a bigger firm with a better salary in a better city? Mobility is a good thing. If you can improve your situation, you should always do it (if you want to).

[vuny98]

2018 PF Patrick Cartier (6-8, 220, 2★) has received an offer from Valparaiso. Played at D2 Hillsdale. Was a D2 All American. Also received offer from Toledo.

Wondering...does he get an extra COVID season too? (He already played 3 years + RS year at Hillsdale.) Also wondering if this confirms concerns about Kithier's health.

Apparently a grad student with two years of eligibility remaining.

Looks to be more of a scorer than Kithier, so may fit well together if Kithier is healthy. May be a good replacement to the role Taylor played.

Over his career, shot 65% from the field, 44% from three (only taking about 1 per game so take with a grain of salt) and averaged about 20 ppg.

Now its D2 and he is 6'8" so I am sure a lot of those points are easy layups and close shots which may have inflated his numbers a bit, but 44% from three (total sample of 100 shots) still shows he has a good shot from the outside.

[tiny707]

Lorne Bowman II is transferring from Wisconsin. Wants to be closer to home. Valpo is closer to Detroit. Didn't we recruit him or offer him? Can't remember.

[VUBBFan]

2018 PF Patrick Cartier (6-8, 220, 2★) has received an offer from Valparaiso. Played at D2 Hillsdale. Was a D2 All American. Also received offer from Toledo.

Wondering...does he get an extra COVID season too? (He already played 3 years + RS year at Hillsdale.) Also wondering if this confirms concerns about Kithier's health.

Apparently a grad student with two years of eligibility remaining. Looks to be more of a scorer than Kithier, so may fit well together if Kithier is healthy. May be a good replacement to the role Taylor played. Over his career, shot 65% from the field, 44% from three (only taking about 1 per game so take with a grain of salt) and averaged about 20 ppg. Now its D2 and he is 6'8" so I am sure a lot of those points are easy layups and close shots which may have inflated his numbers a bit, but 44% from three (total sample of 100 shots) still shows he has a good shot from the outside.

Video of him playing at Hllsdale https://youtu.be/ke1p-rGNBR8[/size]

[vu84v2]

Report that I have seen (within Marquette fan base) show that Patrick Cartier has interest from Colorado and Marquette.

[JD24]

Report that I have seen (within Marquette fan base) show that Patrick Cartier has interest from Colorado and Marquette.

I saw someplace on the interwebs....which I've heard is never wrong...that there was interest from Wisconsin as well.

[therevev]

Lorne Bowman II is transferring from Wisconsin. Wants to be closer to home. Valpo is closer to Detroit. Didn't we recruit him or offer him? Can't remember.

He has committed to Oakland University

[vu72]

2018 PF Patrick Cartier (6-8, 220, 2★) has received an offer from Valparaiso. Played at D2 Hillsdale. Was a D2 All American. Also received offer from Toledo.

Wondering...does he get an extra COVID season too? (He already played 3 years + RS year at Hillsdale.) Also wondering if this confirms concerns about Kithier's health.

Apparently a grad student with two years of eligibility remaining. Looks to be more of a scorer than Kithier, so may fit well together if Kithier is healthy. May be a good replacement to the role Taylor played. Over his career, shot 65% from the field, 44% from three (only taking about 1 per game so take with a grain of salt) and averaged about 20 ppg. Now its D2 and he is 6'8" so I am sure a lot of those points are easy layups and close shots which may have inflated his numbers a bit, but 44% from three (total sample of 100 shots) still shows he has a good shot from the outside.

Video of him playing at Hllsdale https://youtu.be/ke1p-rGNBR8[/size]

He's got that little hitch in his shot, kinda like Kevion. Must be a D2 thing!

[crusadermoe]

Patrick Carter seems like a great fit with our program.  He is probably a good student if he was attracted to Hillsdale. His home in Wisconsin so perhaps will draw more fans to see his games and stay for both of his two years.  Crazy to think that I just said the last sentence. But it's a different world. 

[valpopal]

Quinton Green 6'7" D II guard transfers to Valpo:

[RS]

Green scored 23 points when Cedarville played VU in an exhibition game in October 2019. He had 7 rebounds and shot 3 of 4 from 3 point range. VU won 85 to 65

[valpotx]

Between Edwards and Green, I feel that we have replaced Sheldon and Kevion pretty well, with folks that can immediately replace their productivity.  Who cares about the season after next, we can't depend on developing HS kids at this point.  If we keep 1-2 FR each year and fill in with transfers, that seems to be all that we can do.  I wonder how this is impacting D3.  A decent amount of top D2 players take the final year for D1, and I have to believe top D3 players take the step up to D2.

[vu72]

With his size and shooting ability he reminds me of what we expected from Young, although he appears to be bigger, thicker, body wise.

[David81]

Look at Quinton Green's D2 stats and you'll see a guy steadily averaging 12-13 ppg. Very solid player on strong teams. By comparison, Kevion was a D2 star scoring at 20 ppg the year before he arrived at VU. So I see Green as a quality rotation player who offers some scoring punch, but unlikely to match Kevion's production.

Nick Edwards, however, could be the best pure point guard that Valpo has seen in some time, a great passer who can score.

[vu72]

What?

https://twitter.com/RuedingerP/status/1515724334823874568?cxt=HBwWkIC9qY_Q94gqAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

Could this just be an academic thing where Slim just couldn't cut it at Valpo?  Weird.

[chgovalpofan]

 I too was thinking maybe it was academic .  Schools may have said get your grades up and we will revisit you.   He's got so much potential.

[valpotx]

Yeah, he would have no limit on D-1 schools interested in his services.  It has to be something else outside of playing basketball.

[96]

No he was a 3.0 student, sometimes you have to start all over to get where you want to be

[usc4valpo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Hudgins

Insane long shot, but he would awesome.

[JD24]

In Young's situation, if it is not an academic issue I find it a stranger situation than if it was.

Hopefully it all works out for him.